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Palestinians carrying the body of Nour Marey, killed by IDF troops Friday, in the village of Kafr Dan near the West Bank city of Jenin.
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IDF troops kill Palestinian, detain 2 near Gaza Strip border fence
By Amos Harel and Yoav Stern, Haaretz Correspondents, Reuters and Haaretz Service

Israel Defense Forces troops on Saturday shot dead a Palestinian in the Gaza Strip and detained two others for questioning after they approached the border security fence, an IDF spokesman said.

IDF sources said the army was checking the possibility that the men were attempting to lay an explosive device near the fence.

Close to 6 P.M., soldiers from the Golani infantry brigade noticed three Palestinians approaching the security fence south of the Karni border crossing. The soldiers subsequently opened fire and killed one of the men, Mahmoud Abid, 17, a resident of the Bureij refugee camp in the central Gaza Strip.

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The troops detained the other two Palestinians for questioning.

No Palestinian militant groups claimed Abid as one of their operatives and hospital staff in Gaza said he was dressed in civilian clothes.

The army has not ruled out the possibility that the men were attempting to cross the border to find work in Israel. The IDF Southern Command said troops have great difficulty in discerning whether Palestinians approaching the fence do so in order to carry out terror attacks, or for other reasons entirely.

The IDF soldiers did not find weapons either on Abid's body, or in the possession of the two Palestinians detained.

Earlier in the day, IDF soldiers detained five Palestinian men who had infiltrated across the heavily fortified border fence from Gaza who were looking for work in Israel, the army said.

Also Saturday, a Palestinian woman was wounded on Saturday during clashes between IDF troops and Palestinian militants in a refugee camp in the West Bank city of Nablus, according to Palestinian reports.

The woman was in her home when she was hit by IDF fire in her shoulder, the report said. She was treated at a hospital for her wounds.

Also Friday, IDF troops arrested two Palestinian youths at the Hawara checkpoint near Nablus. The youths were caught holding three explosive devices, which IDF sappers subsequently destroyed.

IDF sources said they shot a Palestinian during the operation in Nablus, after militants threw explosives at them. No soldiers were wounded in the operation.

A soldier was lightly wounded on Friday in the same area, when Palestinian militants threw an explosive device at his unit during a patrol in Balata refugee camp near Nablus.

On the same day, IDF troops killed two Palestinians and wounded six others during a raid near the West Bank city of Jenin on Friday.

Palestinian security officials said that a gun battle broke out between troops and local gunmen in the village of Kafr Dan. One gunman and a 16-year-old boy were killed.

An IDF spokesman said that "several gunmen were identified during an activity against terror infrastructure. The troops fired at them and identified hitting them."

The Abu Amar Brigades, an armed group linked to Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas's secular Fatah faction, said that the gunman killed was on of its leaders.

Also on Friday, three Qassam rockets fired from Gaza struck the western Negev, including one that hit south of the port city of Ashkelon.

There were no reports of injuries in any of the attacks.

Earlier on Friday, the Israel Defense Forces blew up a tunnel in the northern Gaza Strip, which was dug to facilitate a terror attack on Israel, and arrested six wanted militants in the West Bank.

The IDF used explosives to destroy the Gaza tunnel, whose opening was uncovered Tuesday 700 meters from the Gaza-Israel border, on the outskirts of the northern Gaza Strip village Beit Lahia.

The Golani infantry brigade, following information provided by military intelligence sources and assisted by combat engineering and armored forces, discovered the tunnel while operating in the northern Gaza Strip.

Intelligence sources believe the tunnel was intended for infiltration into Israeli territory with the intention of carrying out a large-scale terror attack.

Intelligence sources reported that they had information indicating that the attack was meant to be carried out in an Israeli town just north of Gaza.

The tunnel was dug under greenhouses used to cultivate tomatoes. The IDF also found a generator in the area, which supplied the electricity for the digging tools. A gag order was lifted on its discovery Wednesday.

Tunnels are increasingly employed as a means to infiltrate Israel in order to execute terrorist attacks against civilians, and for the purpose of smuggling weapons and illegal contraband.
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  1.   Quassams equal death blow against Israel deterrence 14:56  |  Joseph E . 15/08/07
  2.   It is still not clear to me why we just don`t close all crosings 15:17  |  Reut Ami-Ram 15/08/07
  3.   Next meetings between Ms.Rice and Livni :Erez alternated with Sde 15:30  |  Absolute Sweden 15/08/07
  4.   "Haaretz" "Militants" shelling women 15:32  |  Absolute Sweden 15/08/07
  5.   It is not clear to me why ELECTRICITY,WATER,FOOD are transferred 15:46  |  Vittorio 15/08/07
  6.   Hey Forum Clowns-Mortars and Kassams 15:53  |  Honest Observation 15/08/07
  7.   The Compassion of Vittorio 18:36  |  Silvienne 15/08/07
  8.   mortar shell 18:59  |  Mark Katzman 15/08/07
  9.   They Want Us To Over-react 19:52  |  dyinglikeflies 15/08/07
  10.   Regarding the tunnel, well done IDF 19:58  |  Gina 15/08/07
  11.   Bleeding Heart Stupidity of Silvienne 20:01  |  Hermie 15/08/07
  12.   WILL SOMEONE OUT THERE HELP US GET OUT??? 20:22  |  Yasar 15/08/07
  13.   Hamas uncovers IDF infrastructure intended for terror attacks. 20:31  |  Andreas 15/08/07
  14.   a tunnel from Gaza to Hebron 20:39  |  indrajaya 15/08/07
  15.   When will apologists for Hamas accept reality? 20:48  |  Voice of Reason 15/08/07
  16.   and you wonder why Israel can`t trust Palestinians? 20:50  |  Richard S 15/08/07
  17.   Golani infantry brigade 20:54  |  Mike 15/08/07
  18.   Yasar, and look for those numbers to go up exponentially soon 21:24  |  Michael Korn 15/08/07
  19.   they must thanks 21:27  |  claudio 15/08/07
  20.   Andreas - #13 21:28  |  David Israel 15/08/07
  21.   Another excellent reason for incursions into Gaza 21:37  |  Murray of Montreal 15/08/07
  22.   tunnelling leads to terror, Qassams not 21:52  |  mehmet 15/08/07
  23.   #12 The trouble is, Yasar 21:52  |  Yonatan 15/08/07
  24.   #5 Vittorio - It is clear enough 21:57  |  Yonatan 15/08/07
  25.   It is clear to me why ELECTRICITY,WATER,FOOD are transferred 22:01  |  Wild Willy 15/08/07
  26.   #12 WILL SOMEONE OUT THERE HELP US GET OUT??? 22:14  |  Murray of Montreal 15/08/07
  27.   #16 Davud Usraek on #13 Andreas 22:14  |  Yonatan 15/08/07
  28.   ANDREAS 13 22:15  |  Brant 15/08/07
  29.   Andreas the Clown 22:23  |  Honest Observation 15/08/07
  30.   Simply Bomb Everything Hamas 22:38  |  Solon 15/08/07
  31.   # 9 dyinglikeflies ` your comment of 22:45  |  Joseph E . 15/08/07
  32.   The military wing of Hamas? Come on Haaretz 22:50  |  Give Me A Break 15/08/07
  33.   With or without occupation, arabs fight.... 22:53  |  Elie 15/08/07
  34.   rather than feeding their people 23:17  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 15/08/07
  35.   Don`t Blow Them Up 23:18  |  Jack 15/08/07
  36.   these people in gaza are horrid people 23:19  |  frank 15/08/07
  37.   Don`t Blow It Up 23:35  |  Jack 15/08/07
  38.   Could it be? 23:51  |  Harry 15/08/07
  39.   Men digging tunnels into Israel for an attack 23:55  |  Chick 15/08/07
  40.   More Israeli lies? 23:56  |  Ian Robertson 15/08/07
  41.   #12 - Will someone help you get out? 23:57  |  DavidAK 15/08/07
  42.   Mehmet from Istanbul: Remember Armenians murdered by Turks!!!!!!! 00:01  |  Vittorio 16/08/07
  43.   Mehmet from Istaenbul 00:27  |  David Israel 16/08/07
  44.   #5 Vittorio 00:45  |  * BEN JABO 16/08/07
  45.   #13 Andreas 00:46  |  * BEN JABO 16/08/07
  46.   I remember that years ago 00:48  |  * BEN JABO 16/08/07
  47.   THKS VITTORIO VIVA ITALIA 00:55  |  Leon 16/08/07
  48.   IDF uncovers Gaza Tunnel 00:58  |  Ron Graham 16/08/07
  49.   #34, Cipora Julianna Kohn 01:16  |  Silvienne 16/08/07
  50.   #11, The Ignorance of Hermie... 01:37  |  Silvienne 16/08/07
  51.   It was a matter of time 01:48  |  Gilad 16/08/07
  52.   From the recent incursion a couple of days ago in Gaza,it became 02:21  |  lakshmi 16/08/07
  53.   Jack - Need LOTS of water 02:34  |  * BEN JABO 16/08/07
  54.   Harry - It could be some Egyptian 02:35  |  * BEN JABO 16/08/07
  55.   Mehmet - Kassam`s O.K.? 02:37  |  * BEN JABO 16/08/07
  56.   tunnels 02:47  |  Mark 16/08/07
  57.   #7 Silvienne - Compassion 04:05  |  * BEN JABO 16/08/07
  58.   Ben Jabo and the siege 05:32  |  Silvienne 16/08/07
  59.   58: Silvienne again displaying ... 08:50  |  David Teich 16/08/07
  60.   Tunnels of terror 10:14  |  Gilad 16/08/07
  61.   #58 Silvienne - re: Image 13:56  |  * BEN JABO 16/08/07
  62.   WHY PUT IT IN THE NEWSPAPERS?? 15:29  |  Robert 16/08/07
  63.   #61, Ben Jabo and the tunnels 20:07  |  Silvienne 16/08/07
  64.   #59, David Teich, and here we go again... 20:11  |  Silvienne 16/08/07
  65.   #63 Silvienne 20:50  |  * BEN JABO 16/08/07
  66.   #64 Silvienne to D. Teich 20:53  |  * BEN JABO 16/08/07
  67.   #65, Ben Jabo and the Tunnels 03:15  |  Silvienne 17/08/07
  68.   Qassam attacks 03:22  |  Lisen 17/08/07
  69.   #66, Ben to me to D.Teich to me.... 03:23  |  Silvienne 17/08/07
  70.   #67 Silvienne 05:03  |  * BEN JABO 17/08/07
  71.   #69 Silvienne - I`ll express it in a very few words 05:05  |  * BEN JABO 17/08/07
  72.   #71, Ben, now I am truly astonished.... 06:44  |  Silvienne 17/08/07
  73.   Yasar 09:32  |  Brad 17/08/07
  74.   Silvienne 09:46  |  Brad 17/08/07
  75.   more will come 10:00  |  indrajaya 17/08/07
  76.   Silvienne 11:59  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 17/08/07
  77.   Silvienne REGARDING BLOWING UP BUILDINGS 12:57  |  Gil 17/08/07
  78.   Indrajaya ? Hello 13:52  |  Gil 17/08/07
  79.   More abuse/terror provided by our arab " peace partners" 14:13  |  Dr David I. Gross 17/08/07
  80.   67: Silvienne and more ignorant tangents 14:59  |  david Teich 17/08/07
  81.   77: Gil, I disagree, it`s not a deterent to the next bombers 15:03  |  David Teich 17/08/07
  82.   # 12 Yasar 15:22  |  Lynn 17/08/07
  83.   Thank you the soldiers of the IDF for protecting Israel and the 15:29  |  Anat 17/08/07
  84.   Silvienne # 69 15:39  |  Lynn 17/08/07
  85.   # 73 Brad on Hamasers in Iran 15:43  |  Lynn 17/08/07
  86.   #12 The new generation in Gaza. 15:44  |  John Allen 17/08/07
  87.   #14 Please stop with the bleeding heart... 15:52  |  John Allen 17/08/07
  88.   #61 Absolutly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 16:08  |  John Allen 17/08/07
  89.   #69 Innocent Muslim women. 16:23  |  John Allen 17/08/07
  90.   #72 Silvienne 16:24  |  * BEN JABO 17/08/07
  91.   Hamas History 16:32  |  Truth Magnified 17/08/07
  92.   #7 Silvienne 17:10  |  * BEN JABO 17/08/07
  93.   to mehmet#22 17:18  |  Ilya 17/08/07
  94.   David Teich NONSENSE 18:17  |  Gil 17/08/07
  95.   David Teich The part I AGREE 18:18  |  Gil 17/08/07
  96.   John Allen, I don`t own a Koran 18:23  |  Lynn 17/08/07
  97.   # 89 John Allen 18:28  |  Lynn 17/08/07
  98.   arabist apologists and collectivity 18:42  |  peter 17/08/07
  99.   to David Israel and Ilya 18:57  |  mehmet 17/08/07
  100.   #74, Brad.... 19:23  |  Silvienne 17/08/07
  101.   To Indrajaya...be happy,76% Hamas Palestine People no wrong 19:24  |  The 72... 17/08/07
  102.   #76, Margie in Tel Aviv... 19:25  |  Silvienne 17/08/07
  103.   #77, Gil 19:29  |  Silvienne 17/08/07
  104.   Mehmet from Istanbul 19:30  |  Dik 17/08/07
  105.   #80, David Teich, off-topic but that`s okay 19:30  |  Silvienne 17/08/07
  106.   #84, Lynn... 19:35  |  Silvienne 17/08/07
  107.   #87, John Allen 19:39  |  Silvienne 17/08/07
  108.   #69, John Allen... 19:42  |  Silvienne 17/08/07
  109.   #90, Ben Jabo 19:45  |  Silvienne 17/08/07
  110.   #92, Ben Jabo and Vittorio 19:50  |  Silvienne 17/08/07
  111.   #94, Gil 19:53  |  Silvienne 17/08/07
  112.   #97, Lynn, exactly my point 19:54  |  Silvienne 17/08/07
  113.   Silvienne THERE IS NO COMPARISON (1) 20:32  |  Gil 17/08/07
  114.   Silvienne THERE IS NO COMPARISON (2) 20:34  |  Gil 17/08/07
  115.   94: Gil talks about ignorance? How sad 20:54  |  David Teich 17/08/07
  116.   mehmet-mehmetele: You are wrong! Better think about Armenians. 20:57  |  Vittorio 17/08/07
  117.   112: Silvienne, as usual, getting the wrong point 21:00  |  David Teich 17/08/07
  118.   Silvienne (# 111) STUCK BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HAMMER 21:04  |  Gil 17/08/07
  119.   Hundred of Kurds murdered by Arab Muslims!!! 21:10  |  Rachel 17/08/07
  120.   To Mehmet No. 99 21:58  |  justice 17/08/07
  121.   #109 Silvienne - Human shields 22:09  |  * BEN JABO 17/08/07
  122.   #110 Silvienne - World Judgement 22:13  |  * BEN JABO 17/08/07
  123.   to mehmet#99 22:26  |  Ilya 17/08/07
  124.   Good job, IDF 22:48  |  KUTW 17/08/07
  125.   16-year-old gunmen 22:50  |  KUTW 17/08/07
  126.   David Teich THE INTELLIGENCE OFFICER FROM Rehovot 23:05  |  Gil 17/08/07
  127.   Shamefull acts of the pals 23:09  |  Adrian de Klerk 17/08/07
  128.   Silvienne. You blame the victims 23:19  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 17/08/07
  129.   Was the 16 yr old a "militant" or a bystander? 23:25  |  Murray of Montreal 17/08/07
  130.   #110 Silvienne 23:37  |  Moss 17/08/07
  131.   129. Murray of Montreal: A gunman 23:40  |  KUTW 17/08/07
  132.   #110 Silvienne: the US freezes the accounts of the terrorists 00:00  |  Ben 18/08/07
  133.   #52 Lakshmi , I am sick of the brutality this country represents 00:00  |  Dutch 18/08/07
  134.   THE HYPOCRISY OF THE ISRAELI ARMY NEVER CEASES TO AMAZE ME 00:08  |  Dutch 18/08/07
  135.   112 #Silvienne: My point 00:12  |  Walter 18/08/07
  136.   Vittorio #5, water electricity supply enigma 00:24  |  Johnny 18/08/07
  137.   125 Re The Real Blames lies with those in Israel.... 00:36  |  Dutch 18/08/07
  138.   To DUTCH 01:34  |  Samuel 18/08/07
  139.   IDF +7 Terrorists -0 01:37  |  Johnson 18/08/07
  140.   #114, Gil, you have misunderstood me! 03:14  |  Silvienne 18/08/07
  141.   #115, David Teich, before you slagg off Gil... 03:16  |  Silvienne 18/08/07
  142.   #113, Gil... 03:22  |  Silvienne 18/08/07
  143.   #117, Well, David, you didn`t read my earlier post... 03:26  |  Silvienne 18/08/07
  144.   Gil, the Rock and Hammer 03:30  |  Silvienne 18/08/07
  145.   #121, Ben Jabo, I know....! 03:37  |  Silvienne 18/08/07
  146.   #122, Ben Jabo.... 03:42  |  Silvienne 18/08/07
  147.   #126, Gil, what Intelligence Officer?? 03:44  |  Silvienne 18/08/07
  148.   #128, Margie, hardly pandering to them.... 03:53  |  Silvienne 18/08/07
  149.   #130, Moss 03:55  |  Silvienne 18/08/07
  150.   #132, Ben 03:57  |  Silvienne 18/08/07
  151.   #133, Dutch.... 03:58  |  Silvienne 18/08/07
  152.   #135, Walter 04:00  |  Silvienne 18/08/07
  153.   #139, Johnson 04:02  |  Silvienne 18/08/07
  154.   only way to destroy the tunnels 05:04  |  Jonathan 18/08/07
  155.   Silvienne 06:19  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 18/08/07
  156.   CONDEMN OR NOT CONDEMN, ABBAS? 07:31  |  indrajaya 18/08/07
  157.   # 34, Fake Cipora Julianna Kohn 07:39  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 18/08/07
  158.   Sylvienne - N0 151 08:35  |  Palestinian Brit 18/08/07
  159.   Johnny _ no 135 08:42  |  Palestinian Brit 18/08/07
  160.   to Palestinian Brit 09:32  |  dovale 18/08/07
  161.   #150 Silvienne 09:43  |  gmfg 18/08/07
  162.   149 Silvienne 09:58  |  Mike 18/08/07
  163.   Idiot from Eilat - No 160 10:01  |  Palestinian Brit 18/08/07
  164.   144. Silvienne 10:01  |  Bruno 18/08/07
  165.   Protecting Israeli lives - gmfg 10:05  |  Palestinian Brit 18/08/07
  166.   # 141Silvienne 10:05  |  Liz 18/08/07
  167.   #155, Margie 10:48  |  Silvienne 18/08/07
  168.   #158, Palestinian Brit 10:52  |  Silvienne 18/08/07
  169.   #150, gmfg 10:55  |  Silvienne 18/08/07
  170.   #162, Mike, thanks for telling me what my preferences are... 11:01  |  Silvienne 18/08/07
  171.   #164, Bruno 11:03  |  Silvienne 18/08/07
  172.   #166, Liz 11:06  |  Silvienne 18/08/07
  173.   #172Silvienne 11:20  |  Liz 18/08/07
  174.   Silvienne re #164, Bruno 11:33  |  72kk 18/08/07
  175.   kill kill kill.... 11:35  |  ravi 18/08/07
  176.   165Palestinian Brit 11:37  |  Leonard 18/08/07
  177.   Hi Tec killers on the loose 11:48  |  Dav 18/08/07
  178.   170. Silvienne to Mike 11:50  |  Didier 18/08/07
  179.   105: Of course it`s off topic, Silvienne, that`s your forte (2nd 12:17  |  David Teich 18/08/07
  180.   # 166 Silvienne 12:21  |  ChanahS 18/08/07
  181.   to #165 Palestinian Brit 12:23  |  EYESWIDEOPEN 18/08/07
  182.   141-3: In such denial, Silvienne 12:27  |  David Teich 18/08/07
  183.   173: But Liz, then she couldn`t 12:29  |  David Teich 18/08/07
  184.   #168 Silvienne 12:32  |  EYESWIDEOPEN 18/08/07
  185.   to #171 Silvienne 12:40  |  EYESWIDEOPEN 18/08/07
  186.   Qassams 12:41  |  Palestinian Brit 18/08/07
  187.   to Indrajaya 13:11  |  Hilda 18/08/07
  188.   167 Silvienne to #155, Margie 13:15  |  Eylo 18/08/07
  189.   indrajaya? at #14 13:23  |  scanadu 18/08/07
  190.   Silvienne - about peace 13:25  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 18/08/07
  191.   PalBrit 13:29  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 18/08/07
  192.   126: Poor Gil, proving the old quote that (2nd try) 15:51  |  David Teich 18/08/07
  193.   Palestinian Brit, Re Night incursions. 20:09  |  Dutch 18/08/07
  194.   Silvienne you are 21:14  |  Johnny 18/08/07
  195.   #172Silvienne (2nd try) 22:22  |  72kk 18/08/07
  196.   169-Silvienne to 150 -2nd attempt 22:23  |  Tom 18/08/07
  197.   Dutchs outrage, from her comfortable home in the US! 22:24  |  Liza 18/08/07
  198.   #145 Silvienne 22:24  |  * BEN JABO 18/08/07
  199.   133Dutch greetings,I share your sentiments,notice that in today` 22:48  |  lakshmi 18/08/07
  200.   PALESTINIAN BLOOD IS NOT WATER...... 23:02  |  Dutch 18/08/07
  201.   killing children, the Israeli national sport continues 00:30  |  H50 19/08/07
  202.   Silvienne 00:35  |  Gina 19/08/07
  203.   Palestinan Brit 00:37  |  Gina 19/08/07
  204.   To #17..MIke 00:59  |  SLAVO 19/08/07
  205.   193 Addendun, Palestinian Brit, Good Point 01:38  |  Dutch 19/08/07
  206.   133Dutch greetings,I share your sentiments,notice that in today` 01:45  |  lakshmi 19/08/07
  207.   #196 Gina, Israel isn`t worth the headache anymore 02:10  |  Dutch 19/08/07
  208.   David Teich, what are you complaining about? 02:21  |  Silvienne 19/08/07
  209.   #190, Margie in Tel Aviv 02:26  |  Silvienne 19/08/07
  210.   #194, Johnny 02:28  |  Silvienne 19/08/07
  211.   #5 Vittorio is confused.... 02:32  |  Johnboy 19/08/07
  212.   Palestinian Brit aorry but can I ask you something? 02:45  |  Tamir Palestine 19/08/07
  213.   196Gina,dream on! The defense technology is expensive,will 03:09  |  lakshmi 19/08/07
  214.   #195, Gina 03:19  |  Silvienne 19/08/07
  215.   Silvienne -- do you have a source? 04:22  |  Gina 19/08/07
  216.   Dutch -- Israelis are precious in the eyes of God 04:56  |  Gina 19/08/07
  217.   lakshmi 04:58  |  Gina 19/08/07
  218.   to Dutch#207 06:02  |  Ilya 19/08/07
  219.   #215, Gina 07:33  |  Silvienne 19/08/07
  220.   #174, 72kk, another one telling me what I think... 07:44  |  Silvienne 19/08/07
  221.   Silvienne -- so there is no source 08:32  |  Gina 19/08/07
  222.   #221, Gina 11:10  |  Silvienne 19/08/07
  223.   #217, Gina 11:13  |  Silvienne 19/08/07
  224.   64: Yup, again, Silvienne, you run from facts (4th try) 14:04  |  David Teich 19/08/07
  225.   211: JB`s back and still ranting 14:10  |  David Teich 19/08/07
  226.   64: Yup, again, Silvienne, you run from facts (5th try) 14:23  |  David Teich 19/08/07
  227.   141-3: In such denial, Silvienne (2nd try) 14:24  |  David Teich 19/08/07
  228.   #146 Silvienne 16:38  |  * BEN JABO 19/08/07
  229.   208: Silvienne, here`s a laugh for you 19:20  |  David Teich 19/08/07
  230.   #199 Lakshmi, Thank You 22:22  |  Dutch 19/08/07
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  232.   #211, Johnboy 04:08  |  Silvienne 20/08/07
  233.   #229, David Teich 08:31  |  Silvienne 20/08/07
  234.   #233 Silvienne - remember a while back 17:41  |  * BEN JABO 21/08/07
  235.   233: Wow, Silvienne, avoiding on two fronts now (2nd try) 13:19  |  David Teich 24/08/07
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