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ANALYSIS: Jerusalem lowering expectations over peace talks
By Aluf Benn, Haaretz Correspondent

Seven years after the failed Camp David summit, and six and a half years after negotiations ended with the Taba talks, Israel has started talking with the Palestinians on a peace agreement again. Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's meeting with Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas in Jericho on Monday is supposed to launch dialogue on the future Palestinian state. U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice gave the parties their homework during her visit last week: to reach an agreed-on diplomatic formula by November's Washington summit and to continue confidence-building gestures.

Veteran negotiators in the current government - President Shimon Peres from the Oslo days, and Defense Minister Ehud Barak from Camp David - are, not coincidentally, much more skeptical than Olmert and Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni regarding the chances of renewing the process.

Peres is said to believe Gaza is lost to Hamas, and that any arrangement must involve Jordan, too. Barak says Hamas and Fatah both want the same thing, but differ in their methods. Minister Haim Ramon, who has had thousands of hours of negotiations with the Palestinians, stands somewhere in between, with his partial convergence plan and his call to give dialogue a chance.

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During Rice's recent visit, her hosts heard a new term: "fundamental issues." Behind closed doors, she was more interested in practical action like the rehabilitation of the Palestinian security forces and removing roadblocks, and talked less concretely about the stages that will bring about a Palestinian state.

Jerusalem was busy lowering expectations, and Olmert's bureau said the leaders were not seeking to formulate an "agreement of principles," but rather "agreed-on principles" - which is the same thing, but less frightening. The bureau cautioned diplomatic correspondents not to get their hopes up.

Nevertheless, Rice heard a different tune this week in Jerusalem and Ramallah. Olmert agreed to a proposal raised a year ago by Rice and Livni to talk to Abbas and Palestinian moderates. Olmert calls it "principles" to emphasize that implementation is far-off and doubtful. And Salam Fayad's appointment as prime minister has given Washington hope that something has changed for the better among the Palestinians.

Experience teaches that the real bargaining will begin only in the days and hours running up to the summit, when Olmert and Abbas are already on their way to Washington.

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  1.   Blah Bah Blah - Agreement Of Principles Or Agreed-On Princip 03:32  |  chet 05/08/07
  2.   Cooling down 03:48  |  Otto Rand 05/08/07
  3.   How can you `lower` expectations? 04:33  |  Mark Lincoln 05/08/07
  4.   #2, Otto Rand 04:44  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 05/08/07
  5.   Israel, the zionists do not aim peace... 05:16  |  Dutch Dirk 05/08/07
  6.   Phony Talks and a Phony Israeli PM 05:32  |  Tod Zuckerman 05/08/07
  7.   To Cipora Juliana Cohen 05:54  |  Otto Rand 05/08/07
  8.   Kadima must be forced to resign , settlers gov`t must be elected 06:03  |  Joseph E . 05/08/07
  9.   Expectations Can Always Be Lowered... 06:17  |  Yoram 05/08/07
  10.   Low expectations or Low Intentions?? 06:35  |  BornFree 05/08/07
  11.   #4 Cipora 06:46  |  Johnboy 05/08/07
  12.   What Palestinian land? 06:56  |  Steve 05/08/07
  13.   Give Palestinians One Last Chance 07:44  |  Eli 05/08/07
  14.   Treading water.... 07:57  |  Webster 05/08/07
  15.   cool off Johnboy 07:57  |  Jewboy 05/08/07
  16.   I really don`t understand why they don`t come out 08:15  |  Rina 05/08/07
  17.   #7, Otto Rand 08:35  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 05/08/07
  18.   Just do it 08:36  |  English Resident 05/08/07
  19.   Fake peace attempts will no longer buy time 08:38  |  Natallie Durson 05/08/07
  20.   Pessemism? 08:48  |  Dagma 05/08/07
  21.   To Steve from Ariel 08:52  |  Otto Rand 05/08/07
  22.   ML 09:09  |  Hannah 05/08/07
  23.   To Rina #15 09:23  |  Otto Rand 05/08/07
  24.   Smoke, mirrors and photo-ops 10:02  |  Clickfool 05/08/07
  25.   Lowering of Expectations 10:49  |  iletzter 05/08/07
  26.   Otto Rand regarding the Jordan and Egypt solution 10:53  |  Rina 05/08/07
  27.   For Natallie Durson # 19 12:08  |  Clickfool 05/08/07
  28.   Separate Arab political entity west of Jordan can never be viable 12:09  |  Uzi 05/08/07
  29.   Beware of reconciliation between Hamas and Fatah. 12:23  |  Uzi 05/08/07
  30.   The False Palestinian Horizon 12:48  |  Dyinglikeflies 05/08/07
  31.   Formaldehyde 12:50  |  Rowan Berkeley 05/08/07
  32.   clickfool`s basic misunderstanding 13:04  |  Hannah 05/08/07
  33.   Otto Rand 13:07  |  Hannah 05/08/07
  34.   #24 clickfool is a plagiarist and an ignoramus 13:16  |  victor hardman 05/08/07
  35.   WHAT is it with the Israeli left?Nothing left to bitch about 13:45  |  PETER SM 05/08/07
  36.   Peace is But A cog in The Wheel 13:45  |  Ronnie Wolman 05/08/07
  37.   For Rowan Berkeley # 31 14:05  |  Clickfool 05/08/07
  38.   To Mark Lincoln # 3 14:10  |  Dolly 05/08/07
  39.   to Dyinglikeflies # 30 14:12  |  Hunter 05/08/07
  40.   To Dutch Dirk # 5. 14:20  |  Natasha 05/08/07
  41.   the only path to peace 14:22  |  Micheal 05/08/07
  42.   To Tod Zuckerman # 6 `A Phoney Peace`? 14:28  |  Dagma 05/08/07
  43.   Clickfool 14:38  |  Chara Mia 05/08/07
  44.   To Otto Rand # 7 14:52  |  Dagma 05/08/07
  45.   re: # 26, Rina, Jordan and Egypt Solution 14:59  |  Asaf Noyman 05/08/07
  46.   How to send yourself off to sleep # 39 15:01  |  Clickfool 05/08/07
  47.   Jordan is Palestine 15:10  |  Steve 05/08/07
  48.   # 27 Clickfool 15:13  |  Natallie Durson 05/08/07
  49.   HIGH EXPECTATION ALWAYS COME FROM IGNORANT LIKE RICE 15:19  |  indrajaya 05/08/07
  50.   Clickfool 15:20  |  Chara Mia 05/08/07
  51.   To Clickfoot # 27 15:22  |  Missknowall 05/08/07
  52.   How to satisfy vouyeristic tendencies in GB 15:38  |  Chara Mia 05/08/07
  53.   # 19, NATALIE DURSON 15:44  |  indrajaya 05/08/07
  54.   Good reason to lower expectations... 16:29  |  Tosefta 05/08/07
  55.   Peace with Israel Impossible 17:36  |  Matthew 05/08/07
  56.   Steve is in a Dream World 17:45  |  Matthew 05/08/07
  57.   Michael of Jerusalem - "the only path to peace" 18:01  |  Sam 05/08/07
  58.   Folly Dolly Folly 18:06  |  Mark Lincoln 05/08/07
  59.   I believe what they claim Tosefta 18:10  |  Mark Lincoln 05/08/07
  60.   To Clickfool #27 etc. 18:14  |  OM 05/08/07
  61.   History lessons 18:16  |  Steve 05/08/07
  62.   Peace, the day after the fence is finished 18:23  |  Golda 05/08/07
  63.   The Israeli government is scared it`s losing control of US policy 18:26  |  Michael 05/08/07
  64.   Matthew 18:35  |  Ms. WantToKnowItAll 05/08/07
  65.   Time for Britain to redeem its imperialist Past. 18:35  |  Akram Zekaria 05/08/07
  66.   If you want peace, help end Israeli retreat. forever. 19:18  |  Chaim 05/08/07
  67.   #16 Rina. Jordan doesn`t want Judea/Samaria. 19:23  |  Chaim 05/08/07
  68.   Zero expectations anyway 20:17  |  Fed Up 05/08/07
  69.   To Hannah #33 20:19  |  Otto Rand 05/08/07
  70.   To Hannah #33 (part two) 20:26  |  Otto Rand 05/08/07
  71.   And do what with the Palestinian residents Chaim? 20:28  |  Sam 05/08/07
  72.   363 its michael again with human rights ignored 20:39  |  victor hardman 05/08/07
  73.   To Dagma #44 20:39  |  Otto Rand 05/08/07
  74.   Otto Rand: stranger things have happened 20:42  |  Hannah 05/08/07
  75.   #5 WHEN DID YOU GET SO SMART 20:43  |  TOBIA 05/08/07
  76.   ToChaim #66 and #67 20:45  |  Otto Rand 05/08/07
  77.   To Chaim #66 and #67 20:52  |  Otto Rand 05/08/07
  78.   To Sam #71 20:54  |  Otto Rand 05/08/07
  79.   To Golda #55 21:00  |  Otto Rand 05/08/07
  80.   Victor sounding as scared as the Israeli government 72 21:17  |  Michael 05/08/07
  81.   And more lies 21:31  |  Nechama 05/08/07
  82.   To Otto Rand # 73 21:33  |  Dagma 05/08/07
  83.   #23, Otto, "solutions must be negotiated" 21:37  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 05/08/07
  84.   To Hannah # 74 21:56  |  Dagma 05/08/07
  85.   "Maybe Olmert will confront the extremists" 22:02  |  Sam 05/08/07
  86.   To Otto Rand,#79, The Fence is Real 22:03  |  Golda 05/08/07
  87.   reality check please annex 22:05  |  michael 05/08/07
  88.   #28 Uzi 22:11  |  Boycott 05/08/07
  89.   and worst than lies 22:23  |  Nechama 05/08/07
  90.   Hi Cipora 22:39  |  Otto Rand 05/08/07
  91.   #80 michael doesnt know it takes all sides to make peace ! 22:41  |  victor hardman 05/08/07
  92.   Conversion 22:43  |  Palestinian Brit 05/08/07
  93.   To Dagma#82 22:59  |  Otto Rand 05/08/07
  94.   Michael/Canada 23:02  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 05/08/07
  95.   For Victor Hardman # 34 23:09  |  Clickfool 05/08/07
  96.   To Dagma #82 (Part Two) 23:10  |  Otto Rand 05/08/07
  97.   For Natallie Durson # 48 23:14  |  Clickfool 05/08/07
  98.   The shameful facts. 23:14  |  Akram Zekaria 05/08/07
  99.   For Victor Hardman # 91 23:26  |  Clickfool 05/08/07
  100.   To: Otto Rand Is "Gated" Like a "Fence" 23:46  |  Golda 05/08/07
  101.   #90, Otto Rand 23:57  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 05/08/07
  102.   Boycott #88, possession is nine tenths of the law 00:16  |  Uzi 06/08/07
  103.   Lowering Expectations 00:21  |  Ibrahim Mahfouz 06/08/07
  104.   #76-77 Otto. Allowing 2nd Palestinian state is immoral. 00:27  |  Chaim 06/08/07
  105.   FALSE HANNAH ALERT! #22, 32, 33, 74 01:38  |  Hannah 06/08/07
  106.   mark Lincoln 02:25  |  Danite 06/08/07
  107.   **A Diplomatic Dance** 03:16  |  Gary Pineda 06/08/07
  108.   To Golda 03:46  |  Otto Rand 06/08/07
  109.   Cipora Julianna Kohn 04:40  |  Otto Rand 06/08/07
  110.   "Diplomatic dance" 04:53  |  Sam 06/08/07
  111.   #109, Otto Rand 05:41  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 06/08/07
  112.   Danite - damned if I know 06:36  |  Mark Lincoln 06/08/07
  113.   CIPORA JULIANNA KOHN 07:43  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 06/08/07
  114.   mark Lincoln do me a favour 07:47  |  Danite 06/08/07
  115.   Indra 08:06  |  Terror Watch. 06/08/07
  116.   #105 false Hannah 08:06  |  Alert Hannah 06/08/07
  117.   *to #19 & 27 Durson &Clickfool the article is 08:19  |  Gary Pineda 06/08/07
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