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Between Tehran and Jerusalem
By David Govrin

The visit to Israel last week by the foreign ministers of Egypt and Jordan, coming as official representatives of the Arab League, was a historic event. The visit, which was the first time that such a delegation had met with members of the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee, was aimed at advancing the Arab peace initiative and creating momentum that would enable the sides to move toward implementation of the vision of two states, Israeli and Palestinian, living side by side in peace.

What began as the Saudi initiative, when it was first published in 2001 and adopted by all of the members of the Arab League, is the first peace proposal in the history of the Israeli-Arab conflict to have been proposed by the Arab League countries. Until recently, it did not seem to be on its way to implementation, in part because Israel did not see in it a proper a basis for negotiations. Now though, it may be on track, after the Arab collective created for the first time, at the Riyadh summit in March, a mechanism for dialogue with Israel in the context of the initiative. The two foreign ministers visited Israel against the background of a new geo-strategic reality, which is characterized by increasing Iranian involvement in the region.

Just a few weeks before the visit, Hamas took control of the Gaza Strip. This takeover, which was accomplished with Iran's support, was another link in what is being perceived as a chain of successes by radical Islamic elements in the region. Hamas rule in the Gaza Strip has posed a new challenge not only for Israel but also for Jordan and Egypt, in both of which the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas' mother movement, constitutes opposition to the regime. The inspiration that the Hamas victory in Gaza could provide the radical Islamic movements in Jordan, Egypt, the Gulf and North African states is obvious to their rulers.

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The moderate Arab countries' anxieties about the expansion of Iran's influence, by way of its allies in the Palestinian Authority, Iraq and Lebanon, is ostensibly creating an identity of interests between the former and Israel. Both want to ensure stability and prevent a decline into civil war in the PA, as well as ensure sectarian and ethnic reconciliation and preserve the state framework in Iraq and Lebanon. From this derive various operational steps, among them the advancing of diplomatic initiatives that will establish the status of the moderate elements and strengthen the hands of the central governments and the security mechanisms that are subordinate to them.

These developments are taking place against the background of what looks like a "cold war" between the Arab world's Sunni and Shi'ite camps. The Shi'ites, who constitute 10 to 15 percent of all the Muslims in the Arab world, see the strengthening of Iran as an opportunity to challenge the balance of power between them and the Sunni majority. The transfer of Iraq to Shi'ite control, for the first time in its history, constitutes a first step for them on the way to a comprehensive change in the balance in the region. Giving expression to the Shi'ite demographic majority and the translation of this into significant political representation in the government of Lebanon headed by Prime Minister Fouad Siniora, or alternatively the toppling of that government by Hezbollah and its followers, fit into this strategy very well. This forecast is worrying the Sunni leadership, headed by the Saudis.

It is noteworthy that, in the context of the spread of Islamic radicalism in the region, the Sunni regimes are seeing Israel more and more as part of the solution, rather than part of the problem. Nevertheless, it appears that there is a gap between the Arab rulers who are interested in advancing a regional initiative with Israel, even without formal recognition of it, and public opinion. The Islamic circles and the secular Arab nationalist elements alike are drawing encouragement from the Lebanon War, from what is perceived as the United States' failure in Iraq and from the Iranian policy of challenging the West, and are acting to advance the strategy of "resistance" to Israel.

Yet it is precisely in these circumstances that voices in the Arab world are being heard against the "resistance" school, the culture of death and the cult of hatred, which together have expressed themselves in the acts of vengeance, torture and humiliation that Hamas people have carried out against Fatah people. The liberal circles in the Arab countries understand very well that radical elements must not be allowed to dictate the agenda and the values of Arab society. It appears that these circles are expecting recognition and help from the Western countries and Israel, since only a joint struggle will enable the creation of conditions for dialogue, reconciliation and stability in the Middle East.

The writer is the director of the Islam department at the diplomatic planning division of Israel's Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
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  2.   Nothing on earth can unite the Arabs (except Israel) 11:47  |  Natallie Durson 03/08/07
  3.   Israel is hated by the masses, that is the important thing 11:50  |  Saudi Arabian 03/08/07
  4.   The writer is confused 12:32  |  Bandar Michaels 03/08/07
  5.   Mr. Saudi Arabian - Finely an Arab that speaks the truth, 12:43  |  Gil 03/08/07
  6.   #3 Saudi Arabian-if you are one 13:07  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 03/08/07
  7.   to #3 thank you mr. saudi arabian 13:08  |  NB 03/08/07
  8.   ARAB OLD AND NEW 13:09  |  indrajaya 03/08/07
  9.   #1 TODD 13:17  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 03/08/07
  10.   Govrin`s analysis is right: Sunnis are peaceful friends of Israel 13:33  |  Neville Chamberlain 03/08/07
  11.   to Mr. Saudi Arabian 13:34  |  adelphis 03/08/07
  12.   This article doesn`t sound right at all! 13:41  |  S 03/08/07
  13.   Mr Wahabbi Saudi 13:50  |  ZB 03/08/07
  14.   "Finally an Arab who speaks the truth" 14:02  |  Sam 03/08/07
  15.   Saudi Arabian 14:08  |  Roland 03/08/07
  16.   The greatest threat to our region is indeed Teheran, not 14:19  |  Eitan 03/08/07
  17.   To Saudi, Durson-Don`t Be Sure 14:20  |  Dyinglikeflies 03/08/07
  18.   Surrender 14:21  |  truth 03/08/07
  19.   #1Tod #15 Gil So now that you both see the light of the djinn 14:34  |  Joel Weltman 03/08/07
  20.   yeah reputation does not 14:39  |  cool 03/08/07
  21.   Time to face the common enemy 15:07  |  J.J. Doring 03/08/07
  22.   Why David Govrin is Right 15:27  |  Ronnie Wolman 03/08/07
  23.   The common enemy is Israek 15:28  |  Amin Nusseibeh 03/08/07
  24.   AMIN 23 YOU have the HALLUCINATIONS 15:45  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 03/08/07
  25.   Official Israeli thinking infected by Bush`s Dualistic world 15:47  |  Tosefta 03/08/07
  26.   #23 Amin`s on Drugs 15:50  |  Joel Weltman 03/08/07
  27.   Why Govrin is Wrong 16:00  |  Andrey 03/08/07
  28.   #21 mr doring the common enemy trying to destroy israel is islam 16:03  |  victor hardman 03/08/07
  29.   THIS IS THE MUSLIMS` MESS 16:07  |  Ian 03/08/07
  30.   leave that Saudi # 3 to me :) 16:10  |  Atilla Karagozoglu 03/08/07
  31.   Amin Nusseibah 16:29  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 03/08/07
  32.   to# Saudi Arabian, your justice concept.... 16:38  |  maurice 03/08/07
  33.   Arabs to the dustbin of history 16:44  |  Robert 03/08/07
  34.   Nonsense 16:48  |  Aaron 03/08/07
  35.   Amin Nusseibeh: Who Holds the Cards 17:04  |  Ronnie Wolman 03/08/07
  36.   The common enemy is `ignorance` 17:15  |  Hubal 03/08/07
  37.   #26 NO ONE discussing anything but `67 borders 17:21  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 03/08/07
  38.   Official Israeli thinking infected by Bush`s Dualistic world 17:21  |  Tosefta 03/08/07
  39.   End Generalization 17:25  |  Truth Magnified 03/08/07
  40.   #36tosefta and the classic error about a president 17:37  |  victor hardman 03/08/07
  41.   #37 JON FINDS THE STUMBLING BLOCK RIGHT AWAY 17:52  |  paul harris 03/08/07
  42.   Between Tehran and Jerusalem 18:06  |  Ibrahim Mahfouz 03/08/07
  43.   Hope Springs Eternal 18:07  |  massaraksh 03/08/07
  44.   Ian#29: You`re Right, It`s a Muslims` Mess 18:14  |  massaraksh 03/08/07
  45.   Sophisticated and Worldly Israeli Thinkers, Not 18:22  |  Yoram 03/08/07
  46.   Between Tehran and Jerusalem 18:26  |  Shlomo 03/08/07
  47.   WHERE IS THAT SAUDİ GUY :) 18:27  |  Atilla Liman 03/08/07
  48.   Tosefta it is You who is dualistic or is that duellistic? 18:30  |  Ronnie Wolman 03/08/07
  49.   I w-a-n-t the S-A-U-D-I ? 18:38  |  Atilla 03/08/07
  50.   ın ten mınutes I want The Saudı here ! 18:42  |  Atılla 03/08/07
  51.   Only if Israel upholds international law 18:45  |  John 03/08/07
  52.   The fish stinks from the head (Victor Hardman #40) 18:48  |  Tosefta 03/08/07
  53.   On Atilla Liman # 41 18:52  |  Clickfool 03/08/07
  54.   4 Ladies in Islam, Endless Ladies in Judaism, MARRIAGE SUBJECT ! 18:54  |  Atilla 03/08/07
  55.   Sunni regimes are corrupt and feudal 18:59  |  Clickfool 03/08/07
  56.   Tosefta`s affection for Islamic terrorists knows no bounds 19:01  |  Voice of Reason 03/08/07
  57.   To Saudi Arabian # 3 19:16  |  Dagma 03/08/07
  58.   Relevance (Ronnie Wolman #48) 19:19  |  Tosefta 03/08/07
  59.   Perhaps when Islam is gone... 19:40  |  Micha 03/08/07
  60.   Exactly.... 19:42  |  Micha 03/08/07
  61.   Yoram: The Street the Saudis Live On 19:55  |  Ronnie Wolman 03/08/07
  62.   To Saidy #3: did you grandgrand daddy hated Israel? 19:58  |  Just Cause 03/08/07
  63.   Hizbullah will rule the world 20:12  |  Akram Kotze 03/08/07
  64.   Meanwhile in Tehran 20:21  |  John 03/08/07
  65.   # 2 Very good, Fatma.... 20:44  |  Misha 03/08/07
  66.   Just cause #62 20:55  |  Saudi 03/08/07
  67.   Dagma...a war is much better than a bad peace 20:58  |  Saudi 03/08/07
  68.   The tacit alliance comes out in the open 21:04  |  Danite 03/08/07
  69.   Tosefta please remind us 21:05  |  Danite 03/08/07
  70.   Cyrus the Great and 21:12  |  Parthians 03/08/07
  71.   51 as opposed to WHO?? 21:22  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 03/08/07
  72.   Iranian Jews and Persia 21:24  |  once upon a time 03/08/07
  73.   Parthians Greeting 21:25  |  Danite 03/08/07
  74.   #55 Clickfool`s Not-So Sunny Sunni Sceanario 21:50  |  Joel Weltman 03/08/07
  75.   Tosefta: Twits and Revelations 21:52  |  Ronnie Wolman 03/08/07
  76.   #38, Tosefta: "this affiliation makes me worried" 21:54  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 03/08/07
  77.   "ostensibly creating an identity of interest" 22:11  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 03/08/07
  78.   Clickfool 22:26  |  Hannah - more alert 03/08/07
  79.   The most majority of the world Muslim population denied Israel 22:33  |  e.m 03/08/07
  80.   Yoram: Your Analysis of the Sunni Machinations Is Perfect 22:39  |  massaraksh 03/08/07
  81.   #67 Saudi Arabia doesn`t have more than ten years 22:40  |  Joel Weltman 03/08/07
  82.   As Bad as Many Sunni Are Shia are Worse 23:02  |  Jane 03/08/07
  83.   Terrorism invented by Zionists 23:04  |  Akram Kotze 03/08/07
  84.   One State Solution 23:14  |  Sama Adnan 03/08/07
  85.   Akram 23:16  |  Jy praat twak 03/08/07
  86.   The most majority of the world Muslim population denied Israel 23:18  |  e.m 03/08/07
  87.   Joe Weltman: The US will leave Iraq but fortify the South 23:18  |  Ronnie Wolman 03/08/07
  88.   Give freedom to Islamic nations. Then we will sea? 23:27  |  e.m 03/08/07
  89.   #81 Saalaam Sama 23:35  |  Joel Weltman 03/08/07
  90.   Sama Adnan 23:42  |  Sam 03/08/07
  91.   Cipora `were you talking to me?" 00:01  |  Danite 04/08/07
  92.   # 3 Your opinion is just like 00:07  |  Lynn 04/08/07
  93.   Why Arabs, antisemites or delusional leftists get married? 00:08  |  Uzi 04/08/07
  94.   #83 Fort Mirage 00:29  |  Joel Weltman 04/08/07
  95.   More misinformation about the Arab League "kissing" Israel 00:47  |  EGW 04/08/07
  96.   #91, Danite 01:24  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 04/08/07
  97.   Saudi: You Don`t Have 300 Years 01:32  |  massaraksh 04/08/07
  98.   Jane #82 01:34  |  Michael Martin-Smith 04/08/07
  99.   # 82 Jane.I have not read the article,will do it tomorrow.BUT! 04:00  |  KATH` 04/08/07
  100.   # 97 massaaksh. Saudi:You Don`t Have 300 Years 04:10  |  KATH` 04/08/07
  101.   #89 Joel Weltman 04:10  |  Labhras 04/08/07
  102.   #93 Uzi 04:15  |  Labhras 04/08/07
  103.   # 101 Labrhras on Ed Said 05:11  |  Joel Weltman 04/08/07
  104.   LABHRAS- BIG MAN... from across the SEA 05:16  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 04/08/07
  105.   To the "One Country " fools 06:55  |  Danite 04/08/07
  106.   #45 yoram on being used 07:10  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 04/08/07
  107.   Stupid wishfull thinking period 07:18  |  Mr. Ami Goldman 04/08/07
  108.   Ruanda revisited 07:43  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 04/08/07
  109.   # 12 to `S` 09:06  |  eric 04/08/07
  110.   For Ronnie Wolman # 87 09:31  |  Clickfool 04/08/07
  111.   The Greater Middle East -105 09:40  |  Palestinian Brit 04/08/07
  112.   Homus? 09:43  |  Palestinian Brit 04/08/07
  113.   For Joel Weltman # 94 09:47  |  Clickfool 04/08/07
  114.   #89, 94, Joel Weltman 10:07  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 04/08/07
  115.   NB 10:36  |  Mahakala 04/08/07
  116.   To Saudi Friend ! 10:42  |  Atilla Karagozoglu 04/08/07
  117.   Kath* 11:01  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 04/08/07
  118.   eric #9 11:02  |  S 04/08/07
  119.   Kath too, Answer to your criticism 11:48  |  S 04/08/07
  120.   correction for eric: #109, not #9 11:52  |  S 04/08/07
  121.   #110 Clickfool: Overated Whizzbangs 12:51  |  Ronnie Wolman 04/08/07
  122.   Clickfool: Bridgeheads,Piers and Glass Houses 13:38  |  Ronnie Wolman 04/08/07
  123.   112 soooo...YOU ONLY eat "Pali" food? 14:19  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 04/08/07
  124.   Headless Voice of reason #56 14:26  |  Tosefta 04/08/07
  125.   111 PERHAPS WE GOT THIS ATTITUDE........ 14:26  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 04/08/07
  126.   From a Martian perspective (Cipora JK#76) 14:28  |  Tosefta 04/08/07
  127.   #69 Apologist Danite the comprehension-challenged, V 14:32  |  Tosefta 04/08/07
  128.   Cipora Shalom 14:47  |  Joel Weltman 04/08/07
  129.   dualistic /not, sometimes the choices are few - 15:16  |  Ivo 04/08/07
  130.   Saudi sums it up 15:33  |  y 04/08/07
  131.   # 119 S. Short reply........ 16:39  |  KATH` 04/08/07
  132.   VOICE OF REASON, wake up! #56 17:46  |  FOX 04/08/07
  133.   Danite vs. Palestinian Brit 17:50  |  Bruce 04/08/07
  134.   Saudis at War? 17:51  |  FOX 04/08/07
  135.   #64Meanwhile in Cairo, Tripoli, Bagdad,etc... 17:54  |  HonestAbe 04/08/07
  136.   To Palestinian Brit from Beit Jala 18:12  |  Tulip 04/08/07
  137.   #112 THE CHICKPEA IS AT LEAST 3000 YEARS OLD 18:17  |  paul harris 04/08/07
  138.   My dear Saudi Arabian friend, Just one questionfor u 18:41  |  Massoud Levy 04/08/07
  139.   Toseftas abuse of the ancient sources 19:26  |  Danite 04/08/07
  140.   Joel Weltman 19:27  |  Danite 04/08/07
  141.   What a mistake 19:39  |  Roxana from Iran 04/08/07
  142.   Palestinian Brit #111 LOL 19:48  |  Danite 04/08/07
  143.   NICE WISHFUL THINKING, IN THE MEANTIME LET`S GET BACK TO REALITY 20:05  |  G. Marcus 04/08/07
  144.   The Good News 20:05  |  FOX 04/08/07
  145.   THE ONLY ARAB-ISRAEL `PEACE` THE SAUDIS HAVE IN MIND IS THE FLWG: 20:11  |  G. Marcus 04/08/07
  146.   Mr.Saudi Arabian 20:56  |  Dik 04/08/07
  147.   Complaining against the wrong problem (Ivo #129) 21:03  |  Tosefta 04/08/07
  148.   #139 Apologist Danite the comprehension-challenged 21:11  |  Tosefta 04/08/07
  149.   #140 Dynamites Political Archelology 21:51  |  Joel Weltman 04/08/07
  150.   TO CIPORA JULIANA KOHN 21:53  |  DANNY. 04/08/07
  151.   Ivo #129 - Democratic Choices 22:05  |  dana 04/08/07
  152.   Ivo #129 - More on Democratic Choices - Selective Interpretations 22:24  |  dana 04/08/07
  153.   #150, DANNY 22:26  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 04/08/07
  154.   #6. Don`t worry about the Arabs, Feigenbaum. 22:34  |  ManInTheMiddle 04/08/07
  155.   FOX #144 - good news through rose colored glasses 22:36  |  dana 04/08/07
  156.   Saudi Arabian is right. Arab masses are sick 22:39  |  Bruce 04/08/07
  157.   #128, Joel Weltman 22:44  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 04/08/07
  158.   You wish 23:01  |  ManInTheMiddle 04/08/07
  159.   Tosefta #147: I wasn`t clear enough - 23:06  |  Ivo 04/08/07
  160.   Israel never clicks 23:31  |  Of Arab 04/08/07
  161.   dana #151, 152: no utopian view of democracy here - 1 23:44  |  Ivo 04/08/07
  162.   Between Tehran and Jerusalem 23:48  |  Cyasher 04/08/07
  163.   Binarism vs. Dualism (Ivo #159) 23:48  |  Tosefta 04/08/07
  164.   dana #151, 152: no utopian view of democracy here - 2 00:06  |  Ivo 05/08/07
  165.   dana "the american people" 00:57  |  Danite 05/08/07
  166.   dana #155: your comment on FOX - 01:08  |  Ivo 05/08/07
  167.   David writes about a dangerous euphemistic vision. 01:12  |  Karl 05/08/07
  168.   #157 Cipora 01:20  |  Joel Weltman 05/08/07
  169.   Tosefta #163: on choices etc. - 01:47  |  Ivo 05/08/07
  170.   # 151 dana. Rather than my waffling on,I have This Short Response 01:58  |  KATH` 05/08/07
  171.   dana: more on the democracy question - 02:19  |  Ivo 05/08/07
  172.   # 109 eric. I say one thing to you and it is this: 02:32  |  KATH` 05/08/07
  173.   154 WE DON`T CARE/HAARETZ PLEASE POST 02:34  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 05/08/07
  174.   155 DANA 02:42  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 05/08/07
  175.   155 DANA A correction to your post 02:46  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 05/08/07
  176.   #160 WE DO EXIST 03:30  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 05/08/07
  177.   # 174 JON FEIGENBAUM.re:dana.I`LL TELL YOU WHAT.. 03:30  |  KATH` 05/08/07
  178.   Heh, Heh, HAAAH! 04:14  |  Mark Lincoln 05/08/07
  179.   # 174 Jon Feigenbaum - It`s not lefties, it`s the independents 04:22  |  dana 05/08/07
  180.   Jon Feigenbaum #175 - soldiers moral is not there 04:34  |  dana 05/08/07
  181.   KATH hindsight is 20/20 04:35  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 05/08/07
  182.   #42 Ibrahim Mahfouz 04:36  |  Lynn 05/08/07
  183.   #53 Clicky, stop whining 04:39  |  Lynn 05/08/07
  184.   #175 04:43  |  American 05/08/07
  185.   KATH - academic responses bore you? 04:45  |  dana 05/08/07
  186.   Ivo #166 re response to FOX 04:59  |  dana 05/08/07
  187.   danite #165 Time`s up -what are you talking about? 05:17  |  dana 05/08/07
  188.   #180, "murder a few more resistance fighters" 05:28  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 05/08/07
  189.   #178 Mark Lincoln - it seems that 05:36  |  dana 05/08/07
  190.   WHAT PLANET are you watching DANA? 05:41  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 05/08/07
  191.   DANA 179 OUR NATIONAL INTERESTS 05:48  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 05/08/07
  192.   188 Cipora Julianna Kohn 05:52  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 05/08/07
  193.   184 better learn ENGLISH before trying to pass as AMERICAN 05:55  |  Jon Feigenbaum 05/08/07
  194.   #168, "one state, two state, twenty state..." 06:00  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 05/08/07
  195.   #180, "the ones I happen to know" 06:12  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 05/08/07
  196.   #188 Cipora 06:21  |  American 05/08/07
  197.   Time the world should change old habits. 06:27  |  Akram Zekaria 05/08/07
  198.   KATH=don`t let it bother you 06:28  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 05/08/07
  199.   #195, American 07:41  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 05/08/07
  200.   #192, Jon Feigenbaum 08:06  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 05/08/07
  201.   77# Cipora. Identity of interest,tried & failed. 08:24  |  Akram Zekaria 05/08/07
  202.   To dana from simple minded S 08:28  |  S 05/08/07
  203.   # 185 dana.Nevermind academic responses.. 15:53  |  KATH` 05/08/07
  204.   # 202 S. re:dana. S You are not Stupid,BUT! to dana who can tell 16:02  |  KATH` 05/08/07
  205.   # 195 Cipora Julianna Kohn.re:dana........ 16:27  |  KATH` 05/08/07
  206.   #205 Kath` 18:27  |  American 05/08/07
  207.   #99 Cipora 18:42  |  American 05/08/07
  208.   Cipora #195, KATH #205 - On known and unknowns 23:50  |  dana 05/08/07
  209.   Cipora #195 - on geopolitics 00:07  |  dana 06/08/07
  210.   #207 Cipora ... My correction 02:12  |  American 06/08/07
  211.   # 118 to "S" 05:08  |  eric 06/08/07
  212.   # 170 to kath` 05:54  |  eric 06/08/07
  213.   # 172 again to you, kath` 06:27  |  eric 06/08/07
  214.   #209, "war criminality is rather a loose term" 07:06  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 06/08/07
  215.   # 204 what in the world makes you think, kath` 10:00  |  eric 06/08/07
  216.   CJK #195 15:55  |  American in NY 06/08/07
  217.   Danite #165 The American People 16:10  |  American in NY 06/08/07
  218.   CJK # 214 war criminals loosly defined 17:17  |  American in NY 06/08/07
  219.   #216, "repulsive to all Americans" 19:46  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 06/08/07
  220.   #218, American in NY 19:56  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 06/08/07
  221.   #217, American in NY 20:05  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 06/08/07
  222.   TJK # 219 there is sympathy and there is sympathy that has been b 21:02  |  American in NY 06/08/07
  223.   CJK # 220 21:06  |  American in NY 06/08/07
  224.   CJK #221 interesting #217 21:42  |  American in NY 06/08/07
  225.   #222, very childish comment 00:54  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 07/08/07
  226.   Ivo Regrding democracy 1/2 02:16  |  American in NY 07/08/07
  227.   #223, American in NY 16:18  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 07/08/07
  228.   TJK #227 Keep up the good work 03:32  |  American in NY 08/08/07
  229.   #228, American from NY 05:01  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 08/08/07
  230.   83# Akram Kotze: Give the TRUTH a chance. 16:05  |  Akram Zekaria 08/08/07
  231.   CJK # 229 14:49  |  American in NY 09/08/07
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