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Last update - 07:44 10/07/2007
Corrie family asks U.S. court to reopen trial against bulldozer company
By The Associated Press

The family of a woman killed trying to prevent the demolition of a Palestinian home in 2003 asked a federal appeals court panel to reinstate
its lawsuit against Caterpillar Inc., saying the company knew bulldozers it sold to the government were being used to commit human rights
violations.

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"Caterpillar sold this product knowing, or it should have known, it would cause exactly this harm," one of the family's lawyers, Duke University law professor Erwin Chemerinsky told the three judges from the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on Monday.

Rachel Corrie, a 23-year-old peace activist from Olympia, Washington, was
crushed by a 60-ton Israel Defense Forces bulldozer as she stood before a Palestinian home in the Gaza Strip.

Her parents, Cindy and Craig Corrie, sued Peoria, Illinois-based Caterpillar, which manufactured the bulldozer, seeking to hold the company civilly liable for aiding and abetting human rights violations, the destruction of civilian homes.

Four Palestinian families whose relatives were killed or injured when the
IDF demolished their homes joined the Corries in filing suit.

A U.S. District Court judge in Tacoma dismissed the lawsuit in 2005, agreeing with the company's argument that it wasn't responsible for how the IDF used its product. The family's request to have the case reinstated drew dozens of demonstrators to the courthouse, supporting the demand.

Chemerinsky insisted that the judge applied the wrong legal standard, and that as long as the company knew how the bulldozers were being used, it could be held liable under common law dating back centuries. "The case should be sent back to the lower court for further proceedings to determine what Caterpillar executives knew," he said.

But lawyers for Caterpillar and the U.S. Justice Department, which filed a friend-of-the-court brief on Caterpillar's behalf, argued that letting the case proceed would require U.S. courts to improperly intervene in political issues reserved for the president and Congress. It would also require American judges to pass judgment on Israel's practice of demolishing Palestinian homes. "You can't aid and abet a legal activity," Caterpillar attorney Robert Abrams told the judges.

Abrams also said Israel purchased the bulldozers with U.S. aid, further
complicating the issue.

"If your honors did look at the U.S. as paying for the bulldozer, the U.S. would be an aider and abettor as well," he said. "There is no conclusion that can be reached other than this, it presents a political question," he added.

Judge Michael Hawkins asked Justice Department lawyer Robert Loeb to consider the hypothetical case of a U.S. oven manufacturer during World War II: "If the company continued selling ovens to Germany, knowing they were being used to kill Jews, would there be legal grounds to go after the company?" he asked.

"Yes," Loeb replied, adding "Treason, for starters."

"But Israel is a U.S. ally, and a U.S. court would have to opine on what really happened in Gaza and the West Bank," Loeb said. "This is a prime example of where the court should decline to extend its common-law jurisdiction. ... The financing and the sale of this equipment have been approved by the United States. (The plaintiffs) want to have a court second-guess the judgment of the government," said the judge.

Chemerinsky and another Corrie attorney, Gwynne Skinner of the International Human Rights Clinic at Seattle University School of Law, described those issues as red herrings and said there is no evidence in the record that the U.S. did pay for the bulldozers or approve any transactions between Caterpillar and the Israeli government.

They questioned how the U.S. could finance Israel's acquisition of bulldozers while simultaneously decrying the demolition of civilian homes in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

"This is a case about direct commercial sales," Chemerinsky said. "It's about holding corporations liable when they aid and abet violations of human rights."

Corrie's parents said after the hearing that they have been carrying on their daughter's work since she died.

"You can't go back to the way things were before, so you determine a path
forward," Cindy Corrie said. "Rachel left a very strong message about trying to make a difference on these important issues. This gives our life a lot of meaning."

The judges did not indicate when they would rule. The Israeli consulate in San Francisco declined to comment on case or the allegations of war crimes while the case pends.

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  1.   I grieve for the family but they`re WRONG 05:24  |  Evan 10/07/07
  2.   #1 - You are RIGHT 06:16  |  Ryan 10/07/07
  3.   9th circuit - most overturned court in the U.S. 06:19  |  Ryan 10/07/07
  4.   Parents are RIGHT 06:31  |  Rachel C. 10/07/07
  5.   Israel`s war 06:47  |  David 10/07/07
  6.   Using this logic 07:57  |  RF 10/07/07
  7.   More absurdity around St. Rachael 08:10  |  Slibovitz 10/07/07
  8.   Rachel Corrie - terror enabler 08:23  |  Say no to terror 10/07/07
  9.   David you are confused 08:25  |  bbl 10/07/07
  10.   rachel corrie 08:32  |  Connie 10/07/07
  11.   David 08:39  |  Connie 10/07/07
  12.   was she really a human rughts activist? 08:45  |  absolute palestine 10/07/07
  13.   to David, a question 08:48  |  Vitaliy 10/07/07
  14.   Not a "peace activist" 08:53  |  David Z 10/07/07
  15.   to a Mr. Cronenberg 08:53  |  Vitaliy 10/07/07
  16.   #10 hey slibovitz, 08:53  |  jake 10/07/07
  17.   Rachel Corrie: a name and a mission never forgotten 08:53  |  Hannah 10/07/07
  18.   to Hannah 08:58  |  Vitaliy 10/07/07
  19.   Corrie was not a human rights and a peace activist, she was, 09:00  |  Avihu 10/07/07
  20.   I SHALL WRITE TO THE DEFENCE 09:02  |  paul harris 10/07/07
  21.   Stuff that never makes the news about... 09:08  |  Michael 10/07/07
  22.   #7 David, do you know what you are talking about? 09:12  |  Michael 10/07/07
  23.   To jake (# 4), you are naive beyond belief 09:18  |  Evan 10/07/07
  24.   Caterpillar -- used by Pakistani Muslims to rescue earthquake 09:25  |  Gina 10/07/07
  25.   #22 HANNAH I AM STILL ON YOUR CASE 09:28  |  paul harris 10/07/07
  26.   Hannah 09:28  |  Gina 10/07/07
  27.   J.Olson 09:31  |  Connie 10/07/07
  28.   Why not against Israel? 09:31  |  Ivan 10/07/07
  29.   To Avihu 09:35  |  Ivan Vanney 10/07/07
  30.   a strange argument by the plaintiffs lawyers ? 09:40  |  victor hardman 10/07/07
  31.   #24, Vitalyi 09:41  |  Hannah 10/07/07
  32.   Hannah or connie or Cipora 09:42  |  Connie aka Queen Liz 10/07/07
  33.   Standing in front of a gigantic machine moving towards her 09:44  |  PETER SM 10/07/07
  34.   #1 Evan : I totally agree with you 09:47  |  Nicole 10/07/07
  35.   A response from an Israeli 09:50  |  Moshavnik 10/07/07
  36.   Corrie Family 09:52  |  Fredy Ross 10/07/07
  37.   David - Israel`s war 09:54  |  george 10/07/07
  38.   Rachel Corrie 09:59  |  george 10/07/07
  39.   HANNAH Who converted the Khazzars to Judaism? 10:00  |  PETER SM 10/07/07
  40.   Control your stupid wannebe MLK American children, period. 10:10  |  Mea 10/07/07
  41.   http://www.rachelcorrie.org/ 10:15  |  RIP 10/07/07
  42.   Corrie and ISM 10:18  |  Garry 10/07/07
  43.   Send a message 10:20  |  Natallie Durson 10/07/07
  44.   Sadly laughable! 10:23  |  Scoon 10/07/07
  45.   Guilt Feelings 10:26  |  Realist 10/07/07
  46.   I say David old sport! 10:29  |  Dorian R. Hack 10/07/07
  47.   Many Palestinans are actively trying to kill Israeli civillians. 10:32  |  Dav 10/07/07
  48.   So because Israel is a US ally, there is no justic for victims?? 10:33  |  Tamir Gaza 10/07/07
  49.   Corrie family to sue bulldozer company 10:34  |  Roxanne 10/07/07
  50.   Interesting claims by the two lawyers... 10:34  |  Johnboy 10/07/07
  51.   St. Rachel? 10:34  |  Joan Stuchner 10/07/07
  52.   Clearly Caterpillar Inc are guilty 10:38  |  Clickfool 10/07/07
  53.   Poor Rachel. 10:44  |  sg 10/07/07
  54.   #32, Gina 10:49  |  Hannah 10/07/07
  55.   #38, Connie 10:55  |  Hannah 10/07/07
  56.   "The UnKnown Rebel" 10:57  |  Tiananmen 10/07/07
  57.   #45, Peter Sm. 11:06  |  Hannah 10/07/07
  58.   An eyewitness to her death admitted it may have been an accident. 11:10  |  shiko 10/07/07
  59.   #26 She did something,Harris, that you can never grasp! 11:10  |  Don Camillo 10/07/07
  60.   #57 Roxanne, no, it is more suble than that 11:11  |  Johnboy 10/07/07
  61.   Hannah 11:11  |  Gina 10/07/07
  62.   old South africa lives 11:11  |  decent 10/07/07
  63.   The Zionist Military is adept at hiding criminals from justice 11:15  |  Don Camillo 10/07/07
  64.   USA is complicit 11:16  |  raymond deane 10/07/07
  65.   The parent`s need to beautify their child through a lawsuit.... 11:20  |  Sarah 10/07/07
  66.   Stupid lawsuit 11:27  |  Nechama 10/07/07
  67.   A message right back at you Natalie 11:32  |  WWACD 10/07/07
  68.   Dear Cindy and Craig Corrie, 11:35  |  Michelle 10/07/07
  69.   #9 Logic not your strongpoint, RF 11:37  |  Johnboy 10/07/07
  70.   DRIVER DID NOT SEE HER - this was SUICIDE 11:40  |  Michelle 10/07/07
  71.   so much fog 11:45  |  Josh Goldman 10/07/07
  72.   HANNAH I posited a simple question. 11:48  |  Peter S .M. 10/07/07
  73.   Clickfool = Dumbfool 11:58  |  X 10/07/07
  74.   Americans who don`t agree with the murder of Corrie 12:02  |  William Jefferson 10/07/07
  75.   No chance, but for more (useless!) attention 12:08  |  Judge 10/07/07
  76.   Josh Goldman -- ordinary people? 12:10  |  Gina 10/07/07
  77.   #81, Peter S.M. 12:15  |  Hannah 10/07/07
  78.   Sue Mercedes-Benz, the manufacturer 12:16  |  Johnny Weintraub 10/07/07
  79.   William Jefferson 12:21  |  Gina 10/07/07
  80.   #7 | @David 12:27  |  Israeli Catholic 10/07/07
  81.   W.Jefferson.If you disagree with Islamists murdering Americans 12:27  |  PETER SM 10/07/07
  82.   Don "Godfather" Camillo 12:28  |  Albert Seligman 10/07/07
  83.   Peter SM (Post No. 39) 12:31  |  Johnny Weintraub 10/07/07
  84.   The Rachels and Corries won`t help ya! 12:31  |  Dead kid 10/07/07
  85.   Johnboy and more "legal idiocies" 12:32  |  Shlomo T 10/07/07
  86.   When I Saw Her Photo Burning The US Flag... 12:39  |  Yosemite 10/07/07
  87.   @Johnboy in #58, you don`t know blah! 12:40  |  Lawyer 10/07/07
  88.   Clearly Land Rover Plc are guilty 12:45  |  Scoon 10/07/07
  89.   #84 PETER SM 12:50  |  William Jefferson 10/07/07
  90.   no..1 evan... i grieve for you 12:57  |  ravi 10/07/07
  91.   #90 William Jefferson 13:10  |  Benedict Arnold 10/07/07
  92.   These Corries ... 13:11  |  anti-clown 10/07/07
  93.   Trial against Bulldozer company caterpillar. 13:22  |  David Nigel Braham 10/07/07
  94.   Murder 13:22  |  Murray 10/07/07
  95.   HANNAH.read Yonatan @190.Online#1Repeat Koestler is unsupported-- 13:35  |  PETER SM 10/07/07
  96.   Johnboy 13:38  |  RF 10/07/07
  97.   Josh Goldman - Why should anyone respect your opinion if you even 13:39  |  Avihu 10/07/07
  98.   deserves Darwin award 13:41  |  peter 10/07/07
  99.   Murray #94 13:54  |  Jo Jo 10/07/07
  100.   HANNAH Please read Yonatan@190.Online1. 13:59  |  PETER SM 10/07/07
  101.   To Garry from New York 14:02  |  christa 10/07/07
  102.   #82 what has your tirade got to do with this article? 14:10  |  Don Camillo 10/07/07
  103.   A neutral question - did the bulldriver know she was the re or no 14:14  |  Don Camillo 10/07/07
  104.   TANKS AND BULLDOZERS..... ISRAEL`S MACHINES OF MURDER 14:21  |  Papal 10/07/07
  105.   No. 71 Josh Goldman 14:29  |  Mitch Cohen 10/07/07
  106.   why was demolishing illegal palestinian homes wrong?????????????? 14:30  |  SHIMON 10/07/07
  107.   no, Jo Jo 14:33  |  Murray 10/07/07
  108.   D.Camillo.What the driver could see was presented as evidence 14:36  |  PETER SM 10/07/07
  109.   #106 SHIMON 14:49  |  STEVEN 10/07/07
  110.   "peace activist" my @$$! 14:50  |  Jacob Greenspan 10/07/07
  111.   US Complicity in Act Of Israeli Murder 14:54  |  Yaakov Sullivan 10/07/07
  112.   PETER SM (Post 108) 15:05  |  Johnny Weintraub 10/07/07
  113.   Sorry, Peter SM, wrong 15:06  |  Murray 10/07/07
  114.   to Murray, #107 - ??? 15:07  |  Evan 10/07/07
  115.   #103 : All in all, a RC is much smaller than a RV 15:10  |  Shlomo 10/07/07
  116.   Rachel wasted her life, her talent, and her drive/ambition, 15:26  |  Evan 10/07/07
  117.   David in London on Christian/Jewish relations 15:29  |  Scoon 10/07/07
  118.   ISM is operating in a one-dimensional manner 15:34  |  GG Some Moral Needed 10/07/07
  119.   Johny Weintraub.Right on money & publicity. 15:35  |  PETERSM 10/07/07
  120.   MURRAY.not true some countries allow cases to be bought. 15:39  |  PETERSM 10/07/07
  121.   Corrie was a sad misguided youth and her parents 15:40  |  The Equalizer 10/07/07
  122.   Don Camillo #59 15:43  |  Yariv 10/07/07
  123.   Censored: Mr. Cronenberg 15:48  |  Shlomo 10/07/07
  124.   #121 The Equalizer - You forgot `unsightly` 15:51  |  WWACD 10/07/07
  125.   For Michelle. spinning for Israel like a top # 70 16:05  |  Clickfool 10/07/07
  126.   Who REALLY Killed Rachel Corrie ( No, It wasn`t the butler ! ) 16:09  |  Klaudia 10/07/07
  127.   Peter SM: name one please 16:14  |  Murray 10/07/07
  128.   Murray: they could have sued in Israeli courts 16:31  |  Shlomo 10/07/07
  129.   #96 Try again, RF? Indeed I will 16:31  |  Johnboy 10/07/07
  130.   #65 Sara 16:33  |  John Allen 10/07/07
  131.   Sorry Murray 16:33  |  Shlomo 10/07/07
  132.   The forgotten Rachels 16:34  |  peter 10/07/07
  133.   Caterpillar Toys and Leftist Joys 16:37  |  Klaudia 10/07/07
  134.   #93 David Nigel Braham seems to miss the point 16:40  |  Johnboy 10/07/07
  135.   MESSAGE FROM RACHEL IN HER GRAVE:REGRETS AIDNG HAMAS GAZATAKEOVER 16:41  |  VOICE of MOSHIACH))) 10/07/07
  136.   Clever Klaudia #126 16:45  |  WWACD 10/07/07
  137.   Shlomo`s observations 16:46  |  Murray 10/07/07
  138.   What a lot of noise for a mere traffic accident 16:55  |  ziggurat 10/07/07
  139.   #85 Shlomo T thinks it`s enough to simply look the other way 16:56  |  Johnboy 10/07/07
  140.   Corrie family can sue Brits they started custom bulldozing homes 17:03  |  topanga 10/07/07
  141.   The reopen case 17:06  |  Dav 10/07/07
  142.   No Case 17:08  |  Ron 10/07/07
  143.   Bulldozer driver needs to be identified 17:15  |  Tim 10/07/07
  144.   To Hannah #17 17:19  |  Peter 10/07/07
  145.   Censor dude - For real 17:19  |  WWACD 10/07/07
  146.   rachel corrie naive pawn 17:19  |  don 10/07/07
  147.   #143 Tim - He will have to remain another unsung hero 17:27  |  WWACD 10/07/07
  148.   not drivers` fault 17:29  |  Inigo Montoya 10/07/07
  149.   Priceless Peter #144 - Interesting angle 17:30  |  WWAC 10/07/07
  150.   #143 Tim 17:33  |  Sarah 10/07/07
  151.   #133 Klaudia 17:35  |  Sarah 10/07/07
  152.   Clickfool - not the whole story 17:39  |  Peter 10/07/07
  153.   Appeals Courts Are NOT about Merits 17:42  |  Mark of Lewiston 10/07/07
  154.   VIDEO of an eyewitness questioning if itwas an accident. 17:45  |  shiko 10/07/07
  155.   Johnboy: RC wasn`t a protected person 17:54  |  Shlomo T 10/07/07
  156.   Rachel Corrie is a hero 17:56  |  Rachel C. 10/07/07
  157.   All Cars Would Have to Be Banned 18:06  |  Or Toe 10/07/07
  158.   Johnboy # 134 Not In This Case (part 1) 18:12  |  Jeff Northridge 10/07/07
  159.   LOL A list of other people they can sue 18:21  |  sam gorin 10/07/07
  160.   Suing rachel Corrie`s estate and her family 18:22  |  Peter 10/07/07
  161.   #152 18:32  |  Shana 10/07/07
  162.   I would also add... 18:34  |  JES 10/07/07
  163.   #156 18:39  |  JES 10/07/07
  164.   Jihad tv`s newest reality tv show - The Corries! 18:40  |  sam gorin 10/07/07
  165.   I also grieve...but.. 18:40  |  Boozaglow 10/07/07
  166.   rachel C- you are crazy 18:41  |  jc 10/07/07
  167.   She was in the wrong place at the wrong time. 18:41  |  Mark 10/07/07
  168.   Ode to Rachel Corrie 18:42  |  Shlomo T 10/07/07
  169.   Johnboy # 134 Not In This Case (part 2) 18:47  |  Jeff Northridge 10/07/07
  170.   Rachel C...the israeli army was only there because terrorists wer 18:51  |  SHIMON 10/07/07
  171.   Avihu you are so wrong 18:52  |  Janice 10/07/07
  172.   #15 Jeff fabled empathy for civilians on show again. 18:58  |  Johnboy 10/07/07
  173.   Rachel Corrie = Just another Suicide Bomber to Pals 18:59  |  Michael 10/07/07
  174.   Janice 19:00  |  JES 10/07/07
  175.   Janice, are you serious? 19:04  |  Mark 10/07/07
  176.   #71 Josh Goldman 19:08  |  Ben Alofs 10/07/07
  177.   terrorists? 19:08  |  Phillip 10/07/07
  178.   Contradictory Accounts and the unclear truth 19:11  |  Gil 10/07/07
  179.   The zionists were there to destroy pure and simple #170 19:12  |  Yaakov Sullivan 10/07/07
  180.   Murray of Milan 19:18  |  Ben Alofs 10/07/07
  181.   #178 Gil and his account of the accounts 19:20  |  Yaakov Sullivan 10/07/07
  182.   BENEDICT ARNOLD # 90 you got a lot of nerve asshole,kicking 19:22  |  terrornator 10/07/07
  183.   So now, Sullivan, you do refer to us, Jews, as "Zionists". At 19:25  |  Avihu 10/07/07
  184.   yaakov, please spare me your one sided retohric 19:26  |  SHIMON 10/07/07
  185.   yaakov, please spare me your one sided retohric (part 2) 19:26  |  SHIMON 10/07/07
  186.   Not a protected person, Shlomo? 19:28  |  Murray 10/07/07
  187.   Lets all sue the manufacturers of the planes involved in 9/11 19:30  |  Dr David I. Gross 10/07/07
  188.   Yaakov, so let me get this straight... 19:30  |  SHIMON 10/07/07
  189.   to yaakov, home destruction is worse than death 19:31  |  SHIMON 10/07/07
  190.   yaakov, please answer the following questions 19:33  |  SHIMON 10/07/07
  191.   Avihu, hysteria run amok #183 19:38  |  Yaakov Sullivan 10/07/07
  192.   #70 19:40  |  Elias 10/07/07
  193.   No, Shimon, most were not used by terrorists #184 19:40  |  Yaakov Sullivan 10/07/07
  194.   Not an issue 19:41  |  Naftali 10/07/07
  195.   To Christa #101 19:45  |  Garry 10/07/07
  196.   ivan, i hope you will finish in israeli prison, where 19:47  |  vladimir 10/07/07
  197.   yaakov - i hope Hashem forgives you for ... 19:49  |  jc 10/07/07
  198.   Shimon, my response #190 19:49  |  Yaakov Sullivan 10/07/07
  199.   Yaakov #181 19:56  |  Gil 10/07/07
  200.   Hannah`s Hero #22 20:06  |  WWACD 10/07/07
  201.   Peter S.M. & Hannah: Simultaneous musings re: A. Koestler 20:12  |  Highlander 10/07/07
  202.   Of course that is your point, Gil 20:12  |  Yaakov Sullivan 10/07/07
  203.   #179 20:16  |  JES 10/07/07
  204.   peter of Montreal #132 20:17  |  GABE1 10/07/07
  205.   Hannah 20:18  |  Connie 10/07/07
  206.   "Entmenscht" 20:20  |  Frank 10/07/07
  207.   #196 djc in dc on blood tells 20:20  |  Yaakov Sullivan 10/07/07
  208.   Hannah - How right you are #22 20:22  |  Yaakov Sullivan 10/07/07
  209.   Dr I Gross: Not a suitable comparison... 20:26  |  Highlander 10/07/07
  210.   Johnboy 134. 20:28  |  David Nigel Braham 10/07/07
  211.   Klaudia, maybe one day you will understand Rachel`s idealism. 20:28  |  Ben Alofs 10/07/07
  212.   #196 jc - It is to Allah that `Yaakov` owes his allegiance 20:29  |  WWACD 10/07/07
  213.   Yaakov #193 20:30  |  SHIMON 10/07/07
  214.   Yaakov #193...if the shoe fits... 20:33  |  SHIMON 10/07/07
  215.   welcome back night censor-boy!!! 20:34  |  WWACD 10/07/07
  216.   Yaakov - another pattern 20:34  |  Gil 10/07/07
  217.   #198....yaakov, trusting peace now doesnt show your credibility 20:36  |  SHIMON 10/07/07
  218.   yaakov...you forgot to answer my question 20:36  |  SHIMON 10/07/07
  219.   Yaacov Sullivan is as much a Jew as..... 20:39  |  michael 10/07/07
  220.   Reaching beyond reality 20:41  |  Mark Lincoln 10/07/07
  221.   #201 - Inherently racist argument 20:43  |  JES 10/07/07
  222.   You missed the point as usual Yaakov 20:46  |  Gil 10/07/07
  223.   More for Highlander 20:46  |  JES 10/07/07
  224.   GABE1 20:47  |  peter 10/07/07
  225.   Yaakov - all you can say 20:48  |  Gil 10/07/07
  226.   #22 hannah, of course you know that posting #208 is not me 20:50  |  Yaakov Sullivan 10/07/07
  227.   #27 20:50  |  J Olson 10/07/07
  228.   #5 WHO IS LEAVING 21:00  |  TOBIA 10/07/07
  229.   Johnboy # 172 What? 21:02  |  Jeff Northridge 10/07/07
  230.   Entmenscht Frank 21:02  |  Gil 10/07/07
  231.   Excuse me, gil, but your agenda is clearly visible 21:06  |  Yaakov Sullivan 10/07/07
  232.   Klaudia # 126 -- Excellent post 21:08  |  Gina 10/07/07
  233.   Ben Alofs -- idealism without a moral bedrock serves no one 21:14  |  Gina 10/07/07
  234.   Yaakov - You are so busy thinking what to write next 21:15  |  WWACD 10/07/07
  235.   Mark Lincoln -- proof? 21:16  |  Gina 10/07/07
  236.   JES: not at all racist... in fact the opposite. 21:22  |  Highlander 10/07/07
  237.   #227 J.Olson 21:23  |  Sarah 10/07/07
  238.   Disenchanted Zionists, Self-hating Jews & Left Wing Israelis 21:36  |  Highlander 10/07/07
  239.   Murray 113 21:36  |  Jo Jo 10/07/07
  240.   The poor Corrie family 21:37  |  Hannah 10/07/07
  241.   Guns sold for shooting and Bulldozers for Bulldozing 21:40  |  Jim 10/07/07
  242.   to # 230, Gil 21:52  |  Evan 10/07/07
  243.   #200 To WWACD, the wannabe Arab-fighter 21:56  |  Ben Alofs 10/07/07
  244.   Another US victim by the Israelis 22:07  |  Abi zaid 10/07/07
  245.   Well Highlander 22:07  |  JES 10/07/07
  246.   to Johnboy#129,134 22:07  |  Ilya 10/07/07
  247.   J. Olson 22:09  |  JES 10/07/07
  248.   Ben Alofs 22:19  |  Sarah 10/07/07
  249.   WWACD, you are a non-entity 22:22  |  Yaakov Sullivan 10/07/07
  250.   What Rachael Corrie stood for, a warning to all children 22:32  |  Jacob Blues 10/07/07
  251.   #243 DR BEN AND THE USUAL PACIFIST LECTURE 22:35  |  paul harris 10/07/07
  252.   Sorry Natalie, but construction equipment does come with warnings 22:36  |  Jacob Blues 10/07/07
  253.   Rachel`s `idealism` 22:37  |  Jasmine Murphy 10/07/07
  254.   Stick to acting Yaacov, 22:46  |  Jacob Blues 10/07/07
  255.   #248 YAAKOV THE MOAN OF NO TALENT LASHES OUT 22:48  |  paul harris 10/07/07
  256.   Rachel C. Pleading with a bulldozer 22:50  |  Jacob Blues 10/07/07
  257.   Yaacov finally owns up to reality 22:53  |  Jacob Blues 10/07/07
  258.   Yaakov Sullivan, you are a FAILURE 22:56  |  JEW 10/07/07
  259.   Johnboy # 172 My Empathy For Civilians 22:58  |  Jeff Northridge 10/07/07
  260.   #243 - I ALWAYS mean what I say Benny 23:00  |  WWACD 10/07/07
  261.   Jo Jo 23:02  |  Murray 10/07/07
  262.   #206 Frank re Entmenschung/Dehumanisation 23:03  |  Ben Alofs 10/07/07
  263.   Read #208 Y. Sullivan 23:08  |  Mustaffa Krepp 10/07/07
  264.   Murray off the edge, 23:11  |  Shlomo T 10/07/07
  265.   #248 Ahmed Sullivan. Why bother answer me then, tough guy? 23:14  |  WWACD 10/07/07
  266.   Tamir Gaza. 23:14  |  Lynn 10/07/07
  267.   Thanks Mustapha - I like you too 23:21  |  WWACD 10/07/07
  268.   # 240 Hannah , great post! 23:22  |  Blueberry 10/07/07
  269.   Yaakov Sulivan was in the SS 23:27  |  Shlomo T 10/07/07
  270.   Ilya, the D9 is a weapon of war 23:29  |  Ben Alofs 10/07/07
  271.   # 103 Neutral answer 23:29  |  Lynn 10/07/07
  272.   #251 Actually she was pleading for the desctruction to stop... 23:33  |  Don Camillo 10/07/07
  273.   Parents should sue Peace Group 23:36  |  Bill 10/07/07
  274.   Gina 23:49  |  Mark Lincoln 10/07/07
  275.   Astounding argument 23:51  |  Mark Lincoln 10/07/07
  276.   Cigarettes can kill SO Caterpillars Bulldozers can KILL. 23:51  |  Becky 10/07/07
  277.   #5.David. Totally agree with you David. 23:57  |  Sandy 10/07/07
  278.   #206 Frank - I see your Entmenscht and raise you a Schadenfreude 23:57  |  WWACD 10/07/07
  279.   # 205 Connie 00:04  |  Lynn 11/07/07
  280.   A young American girl is run over by a soldier in an armored bull 00:10  |  Apartheid 11/07/07
  281.   David #5 - I beg to differ 00:13  |  William 11/07/07
  282.   Caught out, Shlomo 00:16  |  Murray 11/07/07
  283.   Resistance to peace? Don C 00:18  |  Jacob Blues 11/07/07
  284.   For WWACD on Atilla # 145 00:24  |  Clickfool 11/07/07
  285.   For Peter # 152 00:25  |  Clickfool 11/07/07
  286.   If caterpiller is guilty - hold Iran and Russia to task 00:26  |  William 11/07/07
  287.   MURRAY please see Shlomo@128 00:29  |  PETERSM 11/07/07
  288.   WWACD #260 - re: Benny #243 00:29  |  William 11/07/07
  289.   For Jim # 241 00:30  |  Clickfool 11/07/07
  290.   #17, Hannah 00:35  |  Silvienne 11/07/07
  291.   William:Hold Iran to task 00:35  |  Guy From NYC 11/07/07
  292.   #19, Avihu 00:38  |  Silvienne 11/07/07
  293.   Shlomo T # 264 Where Did That Come From? 00:40  |  Jeff Northridge 11/07/07
  294.   #25, Paul Harris 00:42  |  Silvienne 11/07/07
  295.   #278 Clickfool - Sorry to disappoint 00:48  |  WWACD 11/07/07
  296.   #35, Moshavnik 00:48  |  Silvienne 11/07/07
  297.   HIGHLANDER see Yonatans postson the subject&SARAH 00:48  |  PETERSM 11/07/07
  298.   Totally wrong, Jacob Blues 00:49  |  Murray 11/07/07
  299.   #48, Tamir...sadly, you are right... 00:49  |  Silvienne 11/07/07
  300.   Just like BMW 00:50  |  SAM 11/07/07
  301.   #59, Don Camillo 00:51  |  Silvienne 11/07/07
  302.   #67, WWACD, and back to you.... 00:55  |  Silvienne 11/07/07
  303.   #244, Abi Zaid 00:59  |  Silvienne 11/07/07
  304.   Hannah SAy What You mean 00:59  |  TOBIA 11/07/07
  305.   `272" Don Camillo 01:29  |  Labhras 11/07/07
  306.   A tragedy of her own creation 01:31  |  Inigo Montoya 11/07/07
  307.   Who Determines Terrorist 01:39  |  Carl 11/07/07
  308.   272 - Resistance to Peace 01:41  |  Slibovitz 11/07/07
  309.   #303 Silvienne - Ye asked and so ye shall receive 01:49  |  WWACD 11/07/07
  310.   Silvienne # 293 Murdered? 01:51  |  Jeff Northridge 11/07/07
  311.   253 - Who killed her 01:54  |  Seamus 11/07/07
  312.   For Carl 308 01:56  |  Inigo Montoya 11/07/07
  313.   For Carl 308 01:56  |  Inigo Montoya 11/07/07
  314.   David # 5 Hate and ignorance 01:57  |  ChanahS 11/07/07
  315.   Now that Cory the play has closed how about CORY the Musical? 02:09  |  sam gorin 11/07/07
  316.   No Johnboy # 50 It works like this 02:11  |  ChanahS 11/07/07
  317.   #40 "HAIR (??!) brain," Mea? 02:16  |  hala 11/07/07
  318.   #259 Jeff, who claims he has some empathy 02:17  |  Johnboy 11/07/07
  319.   Do You Want the TRUTH? 02:18  |  Rachel C. 11/07/07
  320.   #297 Silvienne - What the hell is IDJ? 02:19  |  WWACD 11/07/07
  321.   The bull dozer was only a tool 02:21  |  Rick 11/07/07
  322.   #210 David Braham doesn`t seem to know the purpose of a "trial" 02:27  |  Johnboy 11/07/07
  323.   Rachel to be remembered? Hannah... what about the other suicide b 02:37  |  Rick 11/07/07
  324.   Much easier, from Israeli p.o.v, to take out house with artillery 02:46  |  DJStahl 11/07/07
  325.   #229 Jeff Northridge makes some assumptions 02:47  |  Johnboy 11/07/07
  326.   #317 No ChanahS, it is SUPPOSED to work like this... 02:58  |  Johnboy 11/07/07
  327.   #264 Shlomo, where you go wrong 03:12  |  Johnboy 11/07/07
  328.   `311" Jeff Northridge 03:16  |  Labhras 11/07/07
  329.   US aid 03:23  |  Truth 11/07/07
  330.   videogame boy continues to play 03:38  |  peter 11/07/07
  331.   Lynn 03:44  |  Connie 11/07/07
  332.   Johnboy 317 03:46  |  ChanahS 11/07/07
  333.   Mark Lincoln -- so no proof? 03:48  |  Gina 11/07/07
  334.   to Ben Alofs#270 04:14  |  Ilya 11/07/07
  335.   Becky in London 04:18  |  Mark Lincoln 11/07/07
  336.   What are your expectations? Number 1. 04:22  |  Mark Lincoln 11/07/07
  337.   to WWACD 04:27  |  jake 11/07/07
  338.   Johnnyboy confused 04:56  |  Inigo Montoya 11/07/07
  339.   ISM clearly at fault here 04:57  |  Bill 11/07/07
  340.   Well Murray, its kind of surprising then 05:08  |  Jacob Blues 11/07/07
  341.   Johnboy # 323 They Already Had Their Trial 05:13  |  Jeff Northridge 11/07/07
  342.   Mark Lincoln and expectations 05:17  |  Jacob Blues 11/07/07
  343.   More wonderful choices for Mark L 05:21  |  Jacob Blues 11/07/07
  344.   #339 Bill 05:25  |  jake 11/07/07
  345.   It could be Stockholm syndrome, Bill 05:27  |  Jacob Blues 11/07/07
  346.   What a frivolous law suit! It should get tossed. 05:47  |  Murray of Montreal 11/07/07
  347.   #288 APARTHEID STANDS ON I95 AND GETS RUN OVER 05:49  |  paul harris 11/07/07
  348.   Sue the airline 05:52  |  Shai 11/07/07
  349.   #338 Inigo hasn`t done his homework 05:56  |  Johnboy 11/07/07
  350.   Labhras # 329 There`s Not Much Difference 06:03  |  Jeff Northridge 11/07/07
  351.   Schindler and Corrie 06:12  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 11/07/07
  352.   Jake 06:13  |  Bill 11/07/07
  353.   #41 Jeff Northridge 06:18  |  Johnboy 11/07/07
  354.   Jacob Blues - twaddle 06:25  |  Mark Lincoln 11/07/07
  355.   sorry Bill, 06:27  |  jake 11/07/07
  356.   # 319 yellow cakewalk is that you? 06:30  |  Lynn 11/07/07
  357.   Margie. Schindler and Corrie 06:31  |  Mark Lincoln 11/07/07
  358.   I guess I am too cold in my approach 06:34  |  Mark Lincoln 11/07/07
  359.   #350 Jeff seems to think that Corrie`s presence was a surprise 06:40  |  Johnboy 11/07/07
  360.   All Hail to St. Pancake, pass the syrup 06:47  |  Al Lapin Jr. 11/07/07
  361.   #346 Murray built a Big Ol` Pile of Strawmen 06:54  |  Johnboy 11/07/07
  362.   Johnboy - Huh? 07:23  |  JES 11/07/07
  363.   #359 Lynn NO it`s not yellow cakewalk 07:26  |  It`s your regular 11/07/07
  364.   Johnboy # 353 It`s a Hopeless Case 07:35  |  Jeff Northridge 11/07/07
  365.   No ambiguity Mark if all you do is look at your premeditated idea 08:15  |  Jacob Blues 11/07/07
  366.   #337 Jake - Now If only brave `Yaakov` would print his REAL name 08:25  |  WWACD 11/07/07
  367.   Once, in 1982, I saw an Ultra Orthodox gentleman 08:25  |  Jack 11/07/07
  368.   Origin of European Jews 08:43  |  Jack 11/07/07
  369.   # 351 Margie in Tel Aviv 08:56  |  Nick Ferriman 11/07/07
  370.   # 346 Murray of Montreal. This legal action is not frivolous. 09:11  |  Nick Ferriman 11/07/07
  371.   #4 Bulldozers used for smuggling tunnels 09:16  |  Joey 11/07/07
  372.   #48 Corrie was a terrorist, not a victim 09:36  |  Joey 11/07/07
  373.   I plead with Corries parents 09:38  |  bill 11/07/07
  374.   The five senses 10:09  |  sh 11/07/07
  375.   # 372 Joey 10:21  |  Nick Ferriman 11/07/07
  376.   FERRIMAN AT THE PULPIT AGAIN 10:29  |  paul harris 11/07/07
  377.   #362 JES, huh? 12:45  |  Johnboy 11/07/07
  378.   #367 12:52  |  JES 11/07/07
  379.   #377 - Johnboy 13:14  |  JES 11/07/07
  380.   #377 - Johnboy II 13:21  |  JES 11/07/07
  381.   #379 JES stretches credulity 14:56  |  Johnboy 11/07/07
  382.   #381 - Not at all Johnboy 15:31  |  JES 11/07/07
  383.   And... 15:33  |  JES 11/07/07
  384.   #382 JES stretches credulity. Again. 16:37  |  Johnboy 11/07/07
  385.   #383 And good on them, JES 16:52  |  Johnboy 11/07/07
  386.   Well Jack, try reading a map first before moralizing 18:23  |  Jacob Blues 11/07/07
  387.   #384 - Johnboy 18:23  |  JES 11/07/07
  388.   #384 Johnboy, read what you cite 18:33  |  JES 11/07/07
  389.   The Corrie`s do not make sense 20:43  |  Navy vet 11/07/07
  390.   #379, JES 00:24  |  Silvienne 12/07/07
  391.   #380, JES, please explain something.... 00:30  |  Silvienne 12/07/07
  392.   #382, If that`s the case, Jes... 00:35  |  Silvienne 12/07/07
  393.   I wish the Corrie family the best of luck. 00:39  |  Deborah 12/07/07
  394.   JES... 00:42  |  Silvienne 12/07/07
  395.   #387 Whacky-do, JES 03:45  |  Johnboy 12/07/07
  396.   #338 Read more widely JES 03:51  |  Johnboy 12/07/07
  397.   #387 - If all else fails use ad hominem 07:14  |  JES 12/07/07
  398.   Johnboy and Silvienne 07:21  |  JES 12/07/07
  399.   Johnboy, I`d thought something similar..... 07:26  |  Silvienne 12/07/07
  400.   Silvienne 07:26  |  JES 12/07/07
  401.   Johnboy... 07:30  |  Silvienne 12/07/07
  402.   #396 - Johnboy 07:37  |  JES 12/07/07
  403.   #399 & 401 - Silvienne 10:38  |  JES 12/07/07
  404.   #398 JES on what seems troubling 11:29  |  Johnboy 12/07/07
  405.   #400 JES, try this.... 11:45  |  Johnboy 12/07/07
  406.   # 387 JES 11:55  |  Nick Ferriman 12/07/07
  407.   #406 - Nick 14:08  |  JES 12/07/07
  408.   #404 - But, Johnboy 14:16  |  JES 12/07/07
  409.   #408 JES, you dissemble 14:40  |  Johnboy 12/07/07
  410.   #409 - Thanks for pointing out my dissembly