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The toy rifle (top) held by 16-year-old Mohammed A-Sahafi when he was shot by IDF troops in Hebron on Tuesday, compared to a real M-16 assault rifle. (IDF)
Last update - 23:51 03/07/2007
IDF kills 16-year-old Palestinian carrying toy rifle in Hebron
By Avi Issacharoff, Haaretz Correspondent and Haaretz Service

Israel Defense Forces troops Tuesday shot and killed a 16-year-old Palestinian who was holding a toy gun in the West Bank city of Hebron.

A paratroop unit operating in the the Wadi Tufah area opened fire on two Palestinians who appeared to be armed, only to discover that both had toy guns resembling M-16 assault rifles.

The victim, Mohammed al-Sahafi, was shot at least four times in the upper body. His body remained at the scene for some time before being removed.

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Military sources said the incident's circumstances will be investigated, and denied Palestinian allegations that IDF dogs had mauled the body. The IDF said no canine units were deployed in the area at the time, and stressed that soldiers treated Sahafi and remained with him until he was transferred to a Red Crescent ambulance.

The IDF Spokesman's Office last night distributed photographs comparing the toy guns and genuine M-16 rifles, pointing out the similarities in size and structure. Soldiers said the toy guns were fitted with telescopic sights that appeared authentic.

Earlier Tuesday, Palestinians fired three mortar shells at the Negev, shortly before a planned visit by a delegation of American university presidents, Israel Radio reported.

On Monday, IDF troops killed an Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigade commander in a pre-dawn gunbattle in the West Bank refugee camp of Jenin early Monday.

25-year-old Mohammed Abu al-Heija, a leader of the Fatah-affiliated Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades in the Jenin refugee camp was also the deputy of Zakariya Zubeidi, one of the top commanders of the Fatah-linked armed group.

Also Monday, defense establishment sources announced that the Shin Bet security service had recently arrested 11 Hamas militants in East Jerusalem.

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  1.   what else do you expect...? 19:22  |  ravi 03/07/07
  2.   It happens everywhere 19:29  |  Dave 03/07/07
  3.   that is what happens when parents trust care of their kids to imm 19:38  |  ralph 03/07/07
  4.   Ravi your so wrong # 1 19:39  |  Shepherd 03/07/07
  5.   another example of death teaching cartoons immoral leaders 19:41  |  ralph 03/07/07
  6.   #1 - chandigarh 19:45  |  MichaelF 03/07/07
  7.   #1 Ravi 19:47  |  Amanda Brunyee 03/07/07
  8.   maybe the state-of-the-art binoculars didn`t work 19:48  |  Jew 03/07/07
  9.   Violence 19:48  |  From the Moon 03/07/07
  10.   Proves sanctions are working 19:48  |  Tom 03/07/07
  11.   Dave, of course, even the Nazis killed children 19:49  |  German 03/07/07
  12.   `toys` 19:52  |  Marc 03/07/07
  13.   Pity for the parents 19:57  |  Kate 03/07/07
  14.   Try that in the US and see what happens... 20:00  |  Klomp 03/07/07
  15.   # 2 Dave 20:06  |  Realistic arab 03/07/07
  16.   #1 NYC`s Finest Speak Out on Toy Guns 20:09  |  Kate 03/07/07
  17.   don`t cary toy guns in a war zone 20:10  |  j dog 03/07/07
  18.   They no longer chase cars 20:12  |  Shimon List 03/07/07
  19.   Israeli death squads in action. 20:12  |  Apartheid 03/07/07
  20.   Who Plays With Toy Guns in the W-BAnk? 20:21  |  Gilgimesh 03/07/07
  21.   16 is a boy...but 20:21  |  Peter 03/07/07
  22.   2. Dave, I challenge you to write a talkback justfying the death 20:22  |  Apartheid 03/07/07
  23.   he was actually holding an imitation M16...playing to kill IDF.. 20:22  |  The 72... 03/07/07
  24.   #1 It was an accident!!!! 20:43  |  Daniel Friedman 03/07/07
  25.   realistic arab 20:43  |  Bill 03/07/07
  26.   It is bad enough this lad gets murdered 20:46  |  Jebediah Springfield 03/07/07
  27.   It wasn`t the IDF`s mistake, it was the boy`s 20:48  |  David Teich 03/07/07
  28.   WHAT KIND OF 16 YEAR OLD PLAYS WITH TOY RIFLES? 20:56  |  Dani 03/07/07
  29.   What a Stupid 16 Year Old!!! 20:57  |  Mike 03/07/07
  30.   #1 That`s just what to expect when carrying 20:58  |  * BEN JABO 03/07/07
  31.   #3 Jew - I doubt it 21:00  |  * BEN JABO 03/07/07
  32.   IDF Motto 21:02  |  Janice 03/07/07
  33.   In Israel 21:03  |  Mike 03/07/07
  34.   Another victim of Farfur the murder mouse 21:04  |  Daniel 03/07/07
  35.   16 yr old with toy rifle? 21:05  |  lola 03/07/07
  36.   IDF Is Quick to Shoot Palestinian Children, Armed or Unarmed 21:05  |  Fred Farkelsteinman 03/07/07
  37.   #6 German (oy vey) 21:06  |  * BEN JABO 03/07/07
  38.   They banned toy guns in Toronto. why not Hebron? 21:08  |  Richard S 03/07/07
  39.   nonsense 21:08  |  Yehiel 03/07/07
  40.   #8 Kate 21:09  |  * BEN JABO 03/07/07
  41.   #19 Apartheid 21:17  |  * BEN JABO 03/07/07
  42.   Pretty stupid kid 21:19  |  Mark Lincoln 03/07/07
  43.   #15 Realistic Arab 21:21  |  * BEN JABO 03/07/07
  44.   shoot first make excuses later huh 21:27  |  anonymouse 03/07/07
  45.   Haaretz journalism 21:34  |  Daniel 03/07/07
  46.   Don`t blame the soldiers! Who runs before IDF with M16 replica?! 21:35  |  Roni 03/07/07
  47.   16 year old with a toy gun? 21:38  |  Lynn 03/07/07
  48.   #28 Janice 21:40  |  * BEN JABO 03/07/07
  49.   #31 iola - there is a pattern 21:43  |  * BEN JABO 03/07/07
  50.   #34 fred Fartshtinkenmannn 21:54  |  * BEN JABO 03/07/07
  51.   #46 Lynn 22:01  |  * BEN JABO 03/07/07
  52.   Sad but explainable 22:06  |  Ricardo 03/07/07
  53.   Repayments 22:06  |  Hannah 03/07/07
  54.   There is no reason to doubt that IDF INDEED IS THE MORAL ARMY! 22:25  |  Vittorio 03/07/07
  55.   Every life is precious 22:30  |  Naseem 03/07/07
  56.   to all Israelis 22:33  |  Leb 03/07/07
  57.   How are we allowing Hannah to post? 22:39  |  H M 03/07/07
  58.   WAS the boy set up to be a child martyr.?Very consistent 22:48  |  PETER SM 03/07/07
  59.   Who`s who? 22:49  |  Katharina 03/07/07
  60.   there is no excuse 22:50  |  citizen zero 03/07/07
  61.   Keep counting folks. Next year I`ll mention the number of childr 22:54  |  Apartheid 03/07/07
  62.   Call it a training opportunity 22:58  |  Natallie Durson 03/07/07
  63.   yes, Hannah, repayments. Continue the cycle the Pals started 23:02  |  Richard S 03/07/07
  64.   Tragic -But 23:03  |  Dr David I.Gross 03/07/07
  65.   #53 You must like war and suffering 23:03  |  j dog 03/07/07
  66.   Maybe 23:07  |  Kike 03/07/07
  67.   Ricardo 23:10  |  BDE 03/07/07
  68.   So what? 23:11  |  Judge 03/07/07
  69.   For the misuer of the word "Apartheid" 23:11  |  GZLives 03/07/07
  70.   50 BJ They wouldn`t need human shields if Israeli death squads 23:12  |  Apartheid 03/07/07
  71.   #40 Ben Jabo... 23:19  |  Kate 03/07/07
  72.   Hannah please explain how this was a crime against humanity 23:23  |  PETER SM 03/07/07
  73.   replica picture 23:28  |  Marc 03/07/07
  74.   How dare a child hold a toy gun in front of a Jew... 23:28  |  Ibrahim 03/07/07
  75.   So what? 23:29  |  Judge 03/07/07
  76.   Hannah 23:34  |  Polybios 03/07/07
  77.   36 Horrific! This seems to be routine with the IDF,Fred F. there 23:36  |  lakshmi 03/07/07
  78.   Would never happen here 23:40  |  christa 03/07/07
  79.   #54 23:48  |  BRL 03/07/07
  80.   Hannah 23:48  |  Connie 03/07/07
  81.   Did the IDF confirm the kill 23:51  |  El-Birawi 03/07/07
  82.   "Yesterday`s South African township dwellers can tell you about 23:51  |  Apartheid 03/07/07
  83.   38 / Ban toy guns / guns kill 23:54  |  Bill 03/07/07
  84.   What`s with all the WAR ZONE talk 00:02  |  Victor 04/07/07
  85.   APARTHEID keep counting the attempts at killing Israelis 00:04  |  PETER SM 04/07/07
  86.   FRED F Re Your need to distort the case of Captain R 00:13  |  PETER SM 04/07/07
  87.   "Settler child with toy gun killed" 00:17  |  Murray 04/07/07
  88.   A boy carrying a toy rifle 00:25  |  Elie 04/07/07
  89.   68 Bravo Victor. 00:47  |  Apartheid 04/07/07
  90.   69 Peter, ther is no shortage of people counting Israeli deaths. 00:48  |  Apartheid 04/07/07
  91.   Victor 72 00:59  |  Inigo Montoya 04/07/07
  92.   If Hebron is a war zone ... 00:59  |  Veritas 04/07/07
  93.   who stolen the money of the real guns? 01:00  |  UGY the she camel 04/07/07
  94.   toy weapons 01:01  |  christoph 04/07/07
  95.   For APARTHEID 01:05  |  christa 04/07/07
  96.   #69 El Birawi 01:06  |  * BEN JABO 04/07/07
  97.   BRL: Los angeles cops 01:07  |  Guy From NYC 04/07/07
  98.   For Dave # 2 01:07  |  christa 04/07/07
  99.   LOOK CAREFULLY at the toy gun 01:12  |  * BEN JABO 04/07/07
  100.   I am amazed... 01:15  |  NEUTRAL 04/07/07
  101.   #44 anonymouse DC 01:16  |  * BEN JABO 04/07/07
  102.   The IDF is trying to Justify the unjustifiable 01:21  |  Dutch 04/07/07
  103.   #66 Apartheid/VIPER 01:26  |  * BEN JABO 04/07/07
  104.   From someone who is there 01:27  |  202 04/07/07
  105.   read the jpost. fatah says hamas training 8-17 yr olds in use fir 01:30  |  ralph 04/07/07
  106.   read the jpost. fatah says hamas training 8-17 yr olds in use fir 01:30  |  ralph 04/07/07
  107.   if they were my children...... 01:32  |  c`mon 04/07/07
  108.   #78 NEUTRAL - don`t be so amazed 01:34  |  * BEN JABO 04/07/07
  109.   I am also amazed... 01:38  |  Tom 04/07/07
  110.   #89 DAFFY DUTCH 01:39  |  * BEN JABO 04/07/07
  111.   #100 Ralph - you don`t to read the JPost 01:43  |  * BEN JABO 04/07/07
  112.   Guy from NYC 01:44  |  Tom 04/07/07
  113.   to.dutch...at 16 israeli young play with real guns and guns... 01:45  |  The Dumbite kid 04/07/07
  114.   blame the victim 01:45  |  melchizedek 04/07/07
  115.   Ravi # 1 01:46  |  ChanahS 04/07/07
  116.   #22 Apartheid 01:47  |  Tom 04/07/07
  117.   99 202 Tell me how your fellow soldiers feel about the ones who 01:47  |  Apartheid 04/07/07
  118.   c mon #102 01:48  |  melchizedek 04/07/07
  119.   #87 Veritas 01:48  |  * BEN JABO 04/07/07
  120.   53 Hannah 01:48  |  ChanahS 04/07/07
  121.   I was 16 once & knew better 01:49  |  Ron 04/07/07
  122.   Katharina # 59 01:53  |  ChanahS 04/07/07
  123.   Tom, the Israelis are trying to push the Palestians into the Jord 01:54  |  Apartheid 04/07/07
  124.   Let`s make it real easy to understand 01:55  |  * BEN JABO 04/07/07
  125.   # 74 No Ibrahim 01:56  |  ChanahS 04/07/07
  126.   87 Murray 01:59  |  ChanahS 04/07/07
  127.   good job IDF 02:00  |  vik 04/07/07
  128.   PALI CHILD SOLDIERS - used & abused 02:01  |  * BEN JABO 04/07/07
  129.   #1 ravi 02:02  |  * BEN JABO 04/07/07
  130.   the americans who repeat israeli propaganda 02:03  |  cristina 04/07/07
  131.   95 Christa, thank you 02:19  |  Apartheid 04/07/07
  132.   to Amanda Brunyee 02:24  |  Elmo 04/07/07
  133.   Whoever ... 02:37  |  Mohamed 04/07/07
  134.   Whoever ... 02:37  |  Mohamed 04/07/07
  135.   Janice 02:40  |  John 04/07/07
  136.   Read it and weep " Pali Child Soldiers" 02:44  |  * BEN JABO 04/07/07
  137.   #55 Naseem 02:44  |  Peter 04/07/07
  138.   A 16 year old boy playing with toy gun???????? 02:47  |  maria 04/07/07
  139.   Shepherd and truth 02:49  |  mohan 04/07/07
  140.   West bank settlements 02:52  |  Mohan 04/07/07
  141.   Sixteen Year Olds Should Know Better 02:54  |  Efox 04/07/07
  142.   #36 you send your child into a war zone to play with a toy gun 02:54  |  ralph 04/07/07
  143.   palestinian parents commanded 02:55  |  maria 04/07/07
  144.   to all hypocrites and parents who want to get rid of their kids 02:55  |  ralph 04/07/07
  145.   Moral army 02:57  |  Mohan 04/07/07
  146.   Critics in Their Own Countries should Do This 02:58  |  Efox 04/07/07
  147.   simply an idiot 03:16  |  shai 04/07/07
  148.   Haaretz 03:17  |  Connie 04/07/07
  149.   get the settlers and idf out of palestine 03:18  |  cristina 04/07/07
  150.   Israeli settlers, gun in one hand, a holy book in the other. 03:42  |  Maureen Ann 04/07/07
  151.   That would happen anywhere! 03:45  |  Ryan 04/07/07
  152.   Killing IDF 03:47  |  Oetis 04/07/07
  153.   to ravi the raven in punjab,on #1 03:51  |  Shmuelshachor 04/07/07
  154.   another lost generation to tv blame it on tv not parents or immor 04:00  |  ralph 04/07/07
  155.   The moral of the story. 04:09  |  Murray of Montreal 04/07/07
  156.   Brunyee #7 04:14  |  JJ 04/07/07
  157.   Jdog #17 04:21  |  JJ 04/07/07
  158.   Ibrahim-# 74 Children killing children 04:31  |  Daniel Leopold 04/07/07
  159.   Mohan #125 04:31  |  JJ 04/07/07
  160.   Mark Lincoln # 42 04:38  |  Philippe 04/07/07
  161.   Realistic arab # 15 04:41  |  Philippe 04/07/07
  162.   El Birawi # 81 04:45  |  Philippe 04/07/07
  163.   Victor-# 84-Even an idiot understands what are the consequences 04:46  |  Daniel Leopold 04/07/07
  164.   16 yr old with M 16 replica= IDF self defence 04:46  |  Avrum 04/07/07
  165.   PETER SM of Australia and BEN JABO 04:54  |  Lynn 04/07/07
  166.   TOY GUNS MUST BE MADE TO LOOK LIKE TOYS 04:57  |  Tobia 04/07/07
  167.   Unclear Circumstances 05:35  |  Double Click 04/07/07
  168.   #117 Peter of Toronto 05:51  |  Lynn 04/07/07
  169.   #36: YA-BA-DA-BA-DO FRED... 06:08  |  Michaelis 04/07/07
  170.   IS THERE A PROBLEM? 06:14  |  Michaelis 04/07/07
  171.   Headline should read: 06:24  |  Nechama 04/07/07
  172.   $55 Naseem 06:27  |  Willy 04/07/07
  173.   Thirst for blood and land 06:30  |  Rachel C. 04/07/07
  174.   My Question??? 06:36  |  Willy 04/07/07
  175.   Why did he have a toy gun? 06:37  |  Rachel C. 04/07/07
  176.   El-Birawi - SOP 06:37  |  Mark Lincoln 04/07/07
  177.   Toy Guns 06:38  |  Shmuelshachor 04/07/07
  178.   WAS the boy set up to be a child martyr.? 06:42  |  Mark Lincoln 04/07/07
  179.   #32 Janice 06:44  |  Benji 04/07/07
  180.   $15 Realistic Arab 06:49  |  Benji 04/07/07
  181.   David Teich, The IDF have a responsibility to uphold the law... 06:49  |  Dutch 04/07/07
  182.   editor and #66 06:53  |  Connie 04/07/07
  183.   #74 Ibrahim, 06:57  |  Willy 04/07/07
  184.   APARTHEID Pal lands full of NGO`s,ISM etc counting & observing 06:59  |  PETER SM 04/07/07
  185.   Hannah, The Proper Payment 07:16  |  Dutch 04/07/07
  186.   Re: Tom: Pushing the Jews into the Sea? 07:25  |  Guy From NYC 04/07/07
  187.   Re: Tom: Pushing the Jews into the Sea? 07:26  |  Guy From NYC 04/07/07
  188.   El-Biwari , Those Soulless Killers in the IDF 07:37  |  Dutch 04/07/07
  189.   #57, HM 07:39  |  Hannah 04/07/07
  190.   killing 16 year old 07:45  |  jeddah 04/07/07
  191.   #146 Daffy Dutch on responsibility 07:46  |  * BEN JABO 04/07/07
  192.   #137 Lynn & all others 07:51  |  * BEN JABO 04/07/07
  193.   #150 Daffy Dutch 07:55  |  * BEN JABO 04/07/07
  194.   #87 Murray 08:00  |  Willy 04/07/07
  195.   #68: 11 KIDS KILLED, 150 KIDS INJURED!!! 08:07  |  Mohamed 04/07/07
  196.   16 years old and playing with toy guns? 08:11  |  Mother 04/07/07
  197.   #146 Dutch 08:14  |  Infidel 04/07/07
  198.   Daffy Dutch doesn`t know what goes on in Mass. 08:19  |  * BEN JABO 04/07/07
  199.   #172 Mohammed Cairo 08:25  |  * BEN JABO 04/07/07
  200.   181: And it did, Dutch. It`s you who ignore laws 09:05  |  David Teich 04/07/07
  201.   181: Notice Dutch never calls for the Arabs to go to the Hague 09:09  |  David Teich 04/07/07
  202.   16 y.o. with toy gun? It`s an obvious provocation. 09:38  |  Shlomo from Tel-Aviv 04/07/07
  203.   #114 to mel-xese-dek 09:59  |  Hastaroth 04/07/07
  204.   #62 Natallie Dur-d`oreille.. 10:23  |  Hastaroth 04/07/07
  205.   More IOF/ settler crimes 10:24  |  Dav 04/07/07
  206.   How civilized people react in similar situations 10:48  |  MR 04/07/07
  207.   parents AND the idf are fault... 11:31  |  eric 04/07/07
  208.   Toy Gun??? 13:25  |  ally 04/07/07
  209.   2ND TRY SIXTEEN Year Old was practicing 13:38  |  * BEN JABO 04/07/07
  210.   #205 Dav - pay attention 13:47  |  * BEN JABO 04/07/07
  211.   no 7 amanda... 14:01  |  ravi 04/07/07
  212.   #211 Ravi ng 14:21  |  * BEN JABO 04/07/07
  213.   #54, vittorio, pmsl , are you kidding ? 15:23  |  VIPER 04/07/07
  214.   #210 Ben pay attention 15:50  |  Dav 04/07/07
  215.   Ban Toy Weapons 16:19  |  Pastor Kim 04/07/07
  216.   And here`s one big reason why 16:19  |  CK Tan 04/07/07
  217.   IDF Kills 16-year old 16:37  |  tz 04/07/07
  218.   Condemning the Victims 17:35  |  global observer 04/07/07
  219.   #214 Dav - Now, you pay attention 18:07  |  * BEN JABO 04/07/07
  220.   #215 Pastor Kim 18:16  |  * BEN JABO 04/07/07
  221.   #213 VIPER - Your head left out your other name 18:19  |  * BEN JABO 04/07/07
  222.   #218 Global Observer - Not very observant 18:27  |  * BEN JABO 04/07/07
  223.   #217 tz 18:41  |  * BEN JABO 04/07/07
  224.   Jewish killers 18:43  |  harry 04/07/07
  225.   #250 Dav 18:51  |  * BEN JABO 04/07/07
  226.   IDF kills 16 y.o. 19:38  |  jeddah 04/07/07
  227.   israhell 19:39  |  Joe Iozzo 04/07/07
  228.   #221 Joe Dizzy 19:54  |  * BEN JABO 04/07/07
  229.   #218 KId was Used 21:03  |  TOBIA 04/07/07
  230.   israhell 22:03  |  zionist hater 04/07/07
  231.   # 198 to my old, and i DO mean old, friend ben jabo 22:12  |  eric 04/07/07
  232.   # 141 efox! for once you might be right! 22:15  |  eric 04/07/07
  233.   #231-2 Eric - don`t be so lazy 01:57  |  * BEN JABO 05/07/07
  234.   226 Jeddah - your missing part of the picture 02:04  |  * BEN JABO 05/07/07
  235.   #232 Eric - Killing in a heartbeat 02:15  |  * BEN JABO 05/07/07
  236.   #230 Zionist Hater 02:17  |  * BEN JABO 05/07/07
  237.   Eric - Only a fool would take a chance 03:23  |  * BEN JABO 05/07/07
  238.   #149 to paraphrase a quote i`m sure you heard we`re back get out 03:40  |  ralph 05/07/07
  239.   Eric - Your Daddy`s talking 03:42  |  * BEN JABO 05/07/07
  240.   with such support soon there will be no pals left. 04:12  |  ralph 05/07/07
  241.   Well, set up live fire regulations like the IDF has.. 04:22  |  Johnboy 05/07/07
  242.   A tragedy... 04:32  |  Silvienne 05/07/07
  243.   #237, Johnboy 04:49  |  Silvienne 05/07/07
  244.   #236, Ralph.... 04:54  |  Silvienne 05/07/07
  245.   #241 Johnboy has come out of hiding 05:54  |  * BEN JABO 05/07/07
  246.   #243 Silvienne 05:57  |  * BEN JABO 05/07/07
  247.   #245-2 Here`s a refresher to jog your memory 06:16  |  * BEN JABO 05/07/07
  248.   Johnboy - Live fire regulations 06:20  |  * BEN JABO 05/07/07
  249.   muslims killing their children 06:22  |  joe 05/07/07
  250.   #243-2 2ND TRY Silvienne - female bombers 06:28  |  * BEN JABO 05/07/07
  251.   O.K. ALL YOU JOKERS 06:45  |  * BEN JABO 05/07/07
  252.   STOP ISRAEL!!! 06:50  |  HINDUS FOR PALESTINE 05/07/07
  253.   IDF kills 16-year-old Palestinian 07:03  |  Skip 05/07/07
  254.   #231-1 2ND TRY 07:21  |  * BEN JABO 05/07/07
  255.   #252 Hindu 07:23  |  * BEN JABO 05/07/07
  256.   #250-2 Silvienne 07:25  |  * BEN JABO 05/07/07
  257.   #245 BEN JABO, of course, jumps the gun... 08:02  |  Johnboy 05/07/07
  258.   #248 BEN JABO shows why the US is good at invading... 08:10  |  Johnboy 05/07/07
  259.   re: eric 09:35  |  Efox 05/07/07
  260.   re: HINDUS FOR PALESTINE 09:41  |  Efox 05/07/07
  261.   re: Johnboy 09:44  |  Efox 05/07/07
  262.   257: JB jumps off the cliff 10:12  |  David Teich 05/07/07
  263.   187: Wow, NYC, diatribe w/o fact -- nothing new for you (2nd try) 10:13  |  David Teich 05/07/07
  264.   #214 BenJabo, please pay attention 10:36  |  Dav 05/07/07
  265.   #248 et al. BEN keeps squawking his line... 10:49  |  Johnboy 05/07/07
  266.   #261 No efox, we are not allowed to carry knifes 11:01  |  Johnboy 05/07/07
  267.   #263 David Teich can sure make me laugh 11:47  |  Johnboy 05/07/07
  268.   #262 Teich-facts from Teich-world 16:29  |  Johnboy 05/07/07
  269.   #264 Dave - you`re the one that has to pay attention 16:43  |  * BEN JABO 05/07/07
  270.   Johnboy - Now he`s an expert on knives 16:55  |  * BEN JABO 05/07/07
  271.   #258 Johnboy - Occupation Zone 17:05  |  * BEN JABO 05/07/07
  272.   #248-2 Johnboy 17:08  |  * BEN JABO 05/07/07
  273.   #253 Skip 17:13  |  * BEN JABO 05/07/07
  274.   #258-2 Johnboy 17:24  |  * BEN JABO 05/07/07
  275.   Johnboy - YOU be the guinea pig 17:30  |  * BEN JABO 05/07/07
  276.   # 233 you stop being lazy, ben jabo 17:47  |  eric 05/07/07
  277.   # 235 when its cold on the east coast, ben 18:02  |  eric 05/07/07
  278.   # 237 ben, you really need to start reading 18:33  |  eric 05/07/07
  279.   # 239 psssst...ben, yoyu`re getting smarter 18:47  |  eric 05/07/07
  280.   Blame Mickey Mouse 18:48  |  Solon 05/07/07
  281.   Hindus for Israel 18:53  |  Ishvara 05/07/07
  282.   # 251 but YOU`RE the joker, ben 18:54  |  eric 05/07/07
  283.   # 258 to johnboy AND ben jabo 19:48  |  eric 05/07/07
  284.   #275 - Eric you poor turd 21:59  |  (* BEN JABO 05/07/07
  285.   #282 Eric - put your money where your mouth is 22:18  |  * BEN JABO 05/07/07
  286.   FREE MOVIES TONITE 23:32  |  * BEN JABO 05/07/07
  287.   Silvienne - a little courtesy PLEASE 23:36  |  * BEN JABO 05/07/07
  288.   Ben, what are you talking about....have I missed something? 01:21  |  Silvienne 06/07/07
  289.   #283, Eric.... 01:27  |  Silvienne 06/07/07
  290.   #250, Ben Jabo...."film critic"! 01:32  |  Silvienne 06/07/07
  291.   #246, Ben Jabo.... 01:38  |  Silvienne 06/07/07
  292.   re: Johnboy, Remember Your Race Riots? 02:09  |  Efox 06/07/07
  293.   #270 BEN JABO wouldn`t get the point of my post.. 02:26  |  Johnboy 06/07/07
  294.   #292 Efox must get his news from Fox News 02:36  |  Johnboy 06/07/07
  295.   #275 Where BEN is losing it.... 02:47  |  Johnboy 06/07/07
  296.   #255, Ben Jabo! 03:17  |  Silvienne 06/07/07
  297.   #256, Okay, Ben.... 03:21  |  Silvienne 06/07/07
  298.   #262 David Teich 03:30  |  Silvienne 06/07/07
  299.   Just a Time-Out post in the middle of nowhere... 03:39  |  Silvienne 06/07/07
  300.   Ben Jabo...with regard to American guns... 03:45  |  Silvienne 06/07/07
  301.   Ben Jabo to Johnboy 03:49  |  Silvienne 06/07/07
  302.   # 284 tsk tsk tsk, ben me boy...such frustration 03:51  |  eric 06/07/07
  303.   Ben Jabo to Eric... 03:57  |  Silvienne 06/07/07
  304.   # 285 ben jabo, i done it before 04:19  |  eric 06/07/07
  305.   #301 Silvienne, on BEN`s powers of deduction 06:29  |  Johnboy 06/07/07
  306.   #271 *BEN JABO suffers the Teich-disease 06:44  |  Johnboy 06/07/07
  307.   Food for thought 08:33  |  Jacob 06/07/07
  308.   #307 You need to chew on it some more, Jacob 09:53  |  Johnboy 06/07/07
  309.   #288 Silvienne 16:10  |  * BEN JABO 06/07/07
  310.   #290 Silvienne 16:13  |  * BEN JABO 06/07/07
  311.   267, et al: JB, it`d be nice if you could join us, p1 16:28  |  David Teich 06/07/07
  312.   267, et al: JB, it`d be nice if you could join us, p2 16:34  |  David Teich 06/07/07
  313.   198: Still avoiding facts, Silvienne. No wonder JB`s proud 16:40  |  David Teich 06/07/07
  314.   #300 Silvienne part 1 16:55  |  * BEN JABO 06/07/07
  315.   #100-2 Silvienne Part 2 17:04  |  * BEN JABO 06/07/07
  316.   #303 Silvienne 17:11  |  * BEN JABO 06/07/07
  317.   #306 Johnboy suffers from selectrive Alzheimer`s 17:33  |  * BEN JABO 06/07/07
  318.   #311 David Teich ignorance sure makes me laugh 17:35  |  Johnboy 06/07/07
  319.   #306-2 Johnboy "Palestinian Irregulars" 18:01  |  * BEN JABO 06/07/07
  320.   #304 Eric - Sure, I`ll bet you did 18:12  |  * BEN JABO 06/07/07
  321.   #317 *BEN JABO, of course, starts history on May 15 1948 18:19  |  Johnboy 06/07/07
  322.   #305, Johnboy and the PitBull! 22:53  |  Silvienne 06/07/07
  323.   #307, Jacob 23:00  |  Silvienne 06/07/07
  324.   #307, Johnboy 23:04  |  Silvienne 06/07/07
  325.   #309, Ben Jabo 23:06  |  Silvienne 06/07/07
  326.   #311, David Teich about Johnboy... 23:15  |  Silvienne 06/07/07
  327.   #312, David Teich...never mind the barking 23:21  |  Silvienne 06/07/07
  328.   #314, Ben Jabo... 23:27  |  Silvienne 06/07/07
  329.   Eric - you spoiled child 23:56  |  * BEN JABO 06/07/07
  330.   #319 Silvienne 00:06  |  * BEN JABO 07/07/07
  331.   Johnboy "Palestinian Irregulars" 00:25  |  * BEN JABO 07/07/07
  332.   #315, Well, Ben Jabo, gotta admit it.... 00:25  |  Silvienne 07/07/07
  333.   Ben Jabo, the afternoon`s movie... 00:59  |  Silvienne 07/07/07
  334.   #332 Silvienne - Don`t be so quick to laugh 03:19  |  * BEN JABO 07/07/07
  335.   #333 Silvienne 03:27  |  * BEN JABO 07/07/07
  336.   Silvienne - Destroyed homes 03:37  |  * BEN JABO 07/07/07
  337.   # 333 silvienne, in regards to this post...3rd try 06:10  |  eric 07/07/07
  338.   #334, Ben Jabo, and there I was, thinking you were joking..... 06:28  |  Silvienne 07/07/07
  339.   #335, Now Ben, as regards those photos... 06:37  |  Silvienne 07/07/07
  340.   Ben Jabo, the destroyed homes... 06:44  |  Silvienne 07/07/07
  341.   Ben Jabo, The Movie, Part 2... 07:13  |  Silvienne 07/07/07
  342.   # 320 ben jabo, i don`t particularly care 07:24  |  eric 07/07/07
  343.   #342, Eric...actually I think that Ben Jabo was... 07:48  |  Silvienne 07/07/07
  344.   #337, Eric....Part 1 08:09  |  Silvienne 07/07/07
  345.   #337, Part 2, Rewritten, Eric.... 08:20  |  Silvienne 07/07/07
  346.   Wonder why the IDF is training..... 08:40  |  Silvienne 07/07/07
  347.   Well, Ben Jabo & Eric, now I`ve seen everything.... 08:52  |  Silvienne 07/07/07
  348.   # 343 silvienne 09:43  |  eric 07/07/07
  349.   # 345 silvienne, not just the one family either... 10:09  |  eric 07/07/07
  350.   #348, Eric, I think you may have misunderstood........ 07:16  |  Silvienne 08/07/07
  351.   #349, Eric... 07:32  |  Silvienne 08/07/07
  352.   Eric...... 09:21  |  Silvienne 08/07/07
  353.   #346 I imagine they`ve already pencilled in the date, Silvienne 12:12  |  Johnboy 08/07/07
  354.   # 350 silvienne, in regards to umm...things... 12:19  |  eric 08/07/07
  355.   #321 Johnboy/Arpartheid - to the contrary 17:19  |  * BEN JABO 08/07/07
  356.   #322 Silvienne 17:25  |  * BEN JABO 08/07/07
  357.   #340 Silvienne - Destroyed homes 17:27  |  * BEN JABO 08/07/07
  358.   #341 Silvienne -MOVIE LINKS & SOURCES 17:31  |  * BEN JABO 08/07/07
  359.   #343 Silvienne - M16 17:35  |  * BEN JABO 08/07/07
  360.   #325 Silvienne 17:43  |  * BEN JABO 08/07/07
  361.   #328 Silvienne 17:47  |  * BEN JABO 08/07/07
  362.   #338 Silvienne 17:55  |  * BEN JABO 08/07/07
  363.   #339 Silvienne - Corrie Photo 17:56  |  * BEN JABO 08/07/07
  364.   #346 Silvienne 18:00  |  * BEN JABO 08/07/07
  365.   313: Poor JB, can`t think, but only rationalize 19:37  |  David Teich 08/07/07
  366.   326-7: Notice Silvienne still can`t address facts 19:43  |  David Teich 08/07/07
  367.   346: You wonder, Silvienne, because you don`t pay attention 19:46  |  David Teich 08/07/07
  368.   # 355 get facts straight ben jabo 20:02  |  eric 08/07/07
  369.   #347 Silvienne 20:27  |  * BEN JABO 08/07/07
  370.   #353 Johnboy - Tell us again 20:33  |  * BEN JABO 08/07/07
  371.   Silvienne - Don`t forget 23:31  |  * BEN JABO 08/07/07
  372.   #353, Johnboy, yes, I suspect the calendar is marked.... 02:07  |  Silvienne 09/07/07
  373.   #354, Eric... 02:28  |  Silvienne 09/07/07
  374.   #355, Ben Jabo to Johnboy... 02:34  |  Silvienne 09/07/07
  375.   #362 Ah, yes, David, you are right, and you are wrong 02:37  |  Johnboy 09/07/07
  376.   #363 David continues to verbal me to Silvienne 02:49  |  Johnboy 09/07/07
  377.   #363, David Teich; I address `em as much as you do.... 02:57  |  Silvienne 09/07/07
  378.   #364, David Teich....on the other hand... 03:03  |  Silvienne 09/07/07
  379.   #356, Ben Jabo 03:22  |  Silvienne 09/07/07
  380.   #368, Johnboy.... 03:24  |  Silvienne 09/07/07
  381.   #357....Ben Jabo, it doesn`t matter... 03:27  |  Silvienne 09/07/07
  382.   #356, Oh really, Ben Jabo.... 03:30  |  Silvienne 09/07/07
  383.   #359, Ben Jabo, M16s 03:33  |  Silvienne 09/07/07
  384.   #360, Ben , I knew I made a mistake.... 03:41  |  Silvienne 09/07/07
  385.   Silvienne - I asked but two small favors 03:45  |  * BEN JABO 09/07/07
  386.   Ben Jabo, I`d really dislike to have to write the same thing..... 03:46  |  Silvienne 09/07/07
  387.   #371 Silvienne - be good enough 03:48  |  * BEN JABO 09/07/07
  388.   #365, Ben Jabo... 03:50  |  Silvienne 09/07/07
  389.   #376 Silvienne 03:58  |  * BEN JABO 09/07/07
  390.   #378 Silvienne - AR15 04:01  |  * BEN JABO 09/07/07
  391.   #377 Silvienne - you`ve only to type in 04:02  |  * BEN JABO 09/07/07
  392.   #378 Silvienne - I hate to disillusion you 04:06  |  * BEN JABO 09/07/07
  393.   Ben...I`m finding it right now!!!!!! 05:12  |  Silvienne 09/07/07
  394.   #383, Ben Jabo... 05:14  |  Silvienne 09/07/07
  395.   #385, Ben Jabo, um, I`ve missed something here.... 05:18  |  Silvienne 09/07/07
  396.   #387, Well, Ben, I`m just about to..... 05:22  |  Silvienne 09/07/07
  397.   #388, Ben, this is confusing....(yes, again)... 05:27  |  Silvienne 09/07/07
  398.   Ben Jabo, about being prepared.... 05:31  |  Silvienne 09/07/07
  399.   #388, Ben Jabo... 05:34  |  Silvienne 09/07/07
  400.   #368 Where I disagree with you Silvienne 05:40  |  Johnboy 09/07/07
  401.   Ben Jabo..here are some links.... 06:02  |  Silvienne 09/07/07
  402.   #376 The problem, Silvienne, for people like David.. 06:03  |  Johnboy 09/07/07
  403.   #395 Silvienne - your asking a lot of questions 06:25  |  * BEN JABO 09/07/07
  404.   #396 Silvienne - I don`t care about your 06:29  |  * BEN JABO 09/07/07
  405.   Ben Jabo..."Honor Killings" 06:32  |  Silvienne 09/07/07
  406.   #397 Silvienne - This is the last on guns 06:34  |  * BEN JABO 09/07/07
  407.   #402 Silvienne 07:01  |  * BEN JABO 09/07/07
  408.   #401-2 Silvienen - Honor Killigns 07:04  |  * BEN JABO 09/07/07
  409.   Ben Jabo 07:10  |  Silvienne 09/07/07
  410.   #400,. Ben Jabo... 07:16  |  Silvienne 09/07/07
  411.   Ben Jabo...okay, the last... 07:20  |  Silvienne 09/07/07
  412.