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MK Ophir Pines-Paz (Labor). (Tomer Appelbaum)
Last update - 20:16 25/06/2007
Pines-Paz: We expected the int'l community to end the war for us
By Haaretz Service

Former Minister of Science, Culture and Sports MK Ophir Pines-Paz (Labor) told the Winograd Committee the cabinet did not discuss a diplomatic end-point for the Second Lebanon War, as it expected international pressure to force Israel to finish it within a few days, the Committee reported Monday.

"The leading diplomatic sources... gave us a working premise that we didn't have much time to work with, and that we needed to act until we would be stopped - but then no one stopped us. This is what happened. Not only did no one stop us, they encouraged us, and we let this go to our heads," the former minister said.

Pines emphasized that Israel was dragged into a war without actually deciding to enter one.

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"I learnt of the Israel Defense Forces plans for the war from the media," he also testified.

At a certain point the cabinet came to the view that they would have to "force the world to force us [to stop the fighting]," so Israel needed to hit hard in order to bring international pressure upon itself, Pines said.

Pines said that on 12 July - the day Hezbollah guerillas ambushed an IDF patrol and kidnapped two soldiers, sparking the subsequent war - he believed Israel needed to respond in order to restore its deterrence capability and to damage Hezbollah's stock of weapons. He also thought that returning the abducted soldiers was still possible.

According to the former minister's testimony, the cabinet was aware that Hezbollah would respond with Katyushas aimed at Israel's civilians.

The ministers were asked to approve a "meaningful, but limited [operation]. But absolutely not a war, and in no way a comprehensive, large-scale campaign," Pines said.

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  1.   Nasrallah was right 15:49  |  Jawad 25/06/07
  2.   What Pines said , that he is nobody , in line of the rulers of 16:15  |  Sal 25/06/07
  3.   You couldn`t make it up 16:18  |  Murray 25/06/07
  4.   What a dope 16:20  |  Mark Lincoln 25/06/07
  5.   Nonsense .. not the first, and not the last 16:21  |  Natallie Durson 25/06/07
  6.   Leftist idiocy 16:35  |  Frank 25/06/07
  7.   I thought Israel was a sovereign nation 16:55  |  Johnny Weintruab 25/06/07
  8.   Its not my fault? 16:59  |  Baz Mann 25/06/07
  9.   Nobody will stop an Iran war 17:07  |  Pablo B 25/06/07
  10.   Second Lebanon "war" 17:12  |  Scott 25/06/07
  11.   NO TRUTH. 17:24  |  EVEN 25/06/07
  12.   #9 READ THIS 17:25  |  EVEN 25/06/07
  13.   To Scott 17:34  |  I.A. 25/06/07
  14.   To #12 17:43  |  I.A. 25/06/07
  15.   Could not expect anything more from the war 17:54  |  Gene 25/06/07
  16.   I.A., 18:09  |  Scott 25/06/07
  17.   such astonishing comments 18:21  |  newageblues 25/06/07
  18.   IA #2 18:21  |  Scott 25/06/07
  19.   USA GAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH TIME TO FINISH THEM! MISSED OPPORTUNITY 18:29  |  VOICE of MOSHIACH))) 25/06/07
  20.   To #7 Johnny Weintraub in Sugar Land 18:47  |  velvl shmerlson 25/06/07
  21.   PABLO B IS RIGHT 18:52  |  Neutered Observer 25/06/07
  22.   Musings of Pines. 19:00  |  Esther 25/06/07
  23.   Natallie Durston #5 19:10  |  Esther 25/06/07
  24.   Forever Wars..Amen 19:27  |  Shana 25/06/07
  25.   Israel taken to war unwillingly.???? 19:28  |  Labhras 25/06/07
  26.   Israel is a McCountry 19:30  |  Tim 25/06/07
  27.   Another reason to replace Olmert, Livni, et al 19:50  |  Polybios 25/06/07
  28.   #21 Neutered Observer - Kazakhstan nukes owned by Iran 19:52  |  Pablo B 25/06/07
  29.   Crimes, yadda yadda 20:06  |  Paul Freedman 25/06/07
  30.   #23 Esther - that`s why Israel hit Christian sectors too? 20:06  |  Pablo B 25/06/07
  31.   If these guys decided to build a house... 20:07  |  Paul Freedman 25/06/07
  32.   Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels Would Have Been Far Superior Leaders 20:09  |  Tod Zuckerman 25/06/07
  33.   After all, looks like Israel really needs UN... 20:25  |  Greg 25/06/07
  34.   Pablo compares US to Iraq 30 years ago hahahah 21:10  |  Jabadini 25/06/07
  35.   #23 Esther 21:27  |  Natallie Durson 25/06/07
  36.   #34 Jabadini - carpet bombing will draw Iranian counter-strikes 22:06  |  Pablo B 25/06/07
  37.   Jabadini 23:00  |  Bernie 25/06/07
  38.   Pablo B #36: Is Iran Really Comparable to Lebanon or Iraq? 23:08  |  Maynard 25/06/07
  39.   Wh...at? 23:57  |  JJ 25/06/07
  40.   re:such astonishing comments 23:59  |  Omran 25/06/07
  41.   28 Pablo: And you`ll believe an Iranian promise? 00:39  |  Michigan 26/06/07
  42.   Murry, I have an idea! 00:56  |  Mark Lincoln 26/06/07
  43.   Pablo B. - citation please? 00:59  |  Mark Lincoln 26/06/07
  44.   Labhras 01:00  |  Polybios 26/06/07
  45.   Omran - what are you talking about? 01:03  |  Polybios 26/06/07
  46.   Newsflash for Natallie 01:19  |  Tom C 26/06/07
  47.   Jabadini - carpet bomb? 01:23  |  Mark Lincoln 26/06/07
  48.   what stupid politicians. when we needed good generals and politic 01:55  |  ralph 26/06/07
  49.   #38 Maynard - shock n awe alone did not stop any wars 02:19  |  Pablo B 26/06/07
  50.   #41 Michigan - Trust but Verifiy 02:38  |  Pablo B 26/06/07
  51.   #43 Mark - I can`t beat the minders 02:50  |  Pablo B 26/06/07
  52.   to end the war for us(?) 03:19  |  Shmuelshachor 26/06/07
  53.   Think About it... 04:04  |  Ali 26/06/07
  54.   LABRAHAS Hesbala started a war with Israel no amount of apology 05:03  |  PETER SM 26/06/07
  55.   Pablo B #49: Will Iran Be Undeterred by Ratcheting Up the Threat? 18:50  |  Maynard 26/06/07
  56.   "Kill for US(A)" "It`s Only Birth Pangs" 06:37  |  warmapril 27/06/07
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