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The Golan is Israeli
By Nadav Shragai

It is almost politically incorrect, practically heresy, to claim today that the Golan is not Syrian in the least nor a deposit or bargaining chip for negotiations. But it is precisely time to say so to the Israeli leaders who are trying to blunt the public's awareness.

The Golan is a lot more "Israeli" than "Syrian." It has been Israeli for 40 years, double the time it was in Syria's hands. It has been under Israeli sovereignty for 26 years. It has neither a foreign people nor a demographic problem. The Golan has become a part of Israeli life. It is the most frequently visited part of the country, dotted with dozens of Jewish communities, agricultural fields, industrial areas and tourist resorts, nature reserves and wild landscape.

The roots laid down there are no mere cliche. For the past two generations at least, the Golan became ingrained in our consciousness as an inseparable part of the state. It is not only part of the national home. Most of us also consider its vistas, and even its produce, as components of our Israeliness, whether we're talking about Eden mineral water, Golan wines or bed-and-breakfast accommodations, or whether it's the trip itineraries for schools and youth movements. It doesn't take a poll to know that the Israeli public is tied to the Golan, loves it and senses through healthy intuition that it is part of it.
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Whoever talks about "returning" the Golan to Syria is being misleading. The Golan was placed under a French mandate in the colonialist agreement that divided the region; Syria won independence only in 1946. In the brief period it was in the Golan - 0.5 percent of its territory - Syria turned the region into a launching pad for its attempt to conquer and decimate Israel. The Syrian army shelled the Israeli communities along the border, attacked the Lake Kinneret fishermen, tried to divert the course of its waters and made life "down below" a Sderot-style hell. The Golan was conquered in a justified defensive war. We paid for it with blood. The Syrians lost it fair and square.

In previous eras as well, the Golan was not considered a part of Syria, and it is replete with findings of Jewish heroism and sovereignty, starting with the reign of Solomon, through the Second Temple period, the heroic battle of the city of Gamla and the Talmudic period. It was no foreign land that we conquered. Our ties to the Golan take precedence over its necessity for security purposes or the need to safeguard the water sources, and other excellent arguments.

Whoever now treats the ultimate Syrian demand for a complete Israeli withdrawal from the Golan Heights and evacuation of every last community there as a decree of Heaven is misguided and misleading. The "price label" convention must be shattered. The approach needs to be completely different. The Golan is not Syrian. It is Israeli. Syria can get a great deal from peace, not necessarily territory. Israel is faced with a rare window of opportunity to explain this to the world, without getting flustered. Syria is now known throughout the world as a supporter of terrorism, as part of the "Axis of Evil," and this is precisely the time to try to leverage the Israeli narrative on the Golan to shatter the "price label" convention.

It is possible that in the end, in another generation or two, there will be a compromise on the Golan as well, but it would be immeasurably better if the starting point were different: When both parties agree in advance that the Golan belongs to one side, the results of the negotiations are known ahead of time. When both parties claim ownership of it, the mediators, too, will treat it differently.

The results of the Second Lebanon War greatly increased the Syrian appetite and led it to threaten a war against Israel unless the Golan is handed over. Alongside the deterrence that incoming defense minister Ehud Barak talks about, this is exactly the time to tell the Israeli story of the Golan Heights.
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  1.   THE GOLAN IS ISRAEL SINCE 1920 08:43  |  paul harris 18/06/07
  2.   Funny logic 08:46  |  Pee 18/06/07
  3.   Golan Heights 08:47  |  Edifice 18/06/07
  4.   Give nothing back! 08:52  |  Ariya Gothelf 18/06/07
  5.   Only w/Israel does the West demand return 08:54  |  david Teich 18/06/07
  6.   Peace for Peace 08:56  |  David G 18/06/07
  7.   #2 Read it again. Jews were in Golan also first. 09:08  |  AK 18/06/07
  8.   Sympathetic nonsense. 09:11  |  M. Franks-Lhermann 18/06/07
  9.   Why stop with the Golan ... go for Boca Raton as well 09:21  |  Natallie Durson 18/06/07
  10.   Good point 09:25  |  Beni 18/06/07
  11.   The 2 pearls of nature conquered 09:28  |  S 18/06/07
  12.   Well-spoken! 09:35  |  Andi 18/06/07
  13.   I TOTALLY AGREE 09:37  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 18/06/07
  14.   David G-# 6-Land for peace works 09:40  |  Daniel Leopold 18/06/07
  15.   NEVER GIVE IT BACK -AND TEACH SYRIA A LESSON IF THEY TRY 09:48  |  don 18/06/07
  16.   Daniel Leopold-- The exception proves the rule 09:54  |  David G 18/06/07
  17.   david Teich-#5-Land for Peace 09:57  |  Daniel Leopold 18/06/07
  18.   Hey nadav, you, and Israel, need to explain this to the world 10:01  |  Steve Holden 18/06/07
  19.   Lo Nazuz MiGolan! 10:04  |  Vittorio 18/06/07
  20.   Cipora Juliana Kohn-#13-I agree only partially 10:06  |  Daniel Leopold 18/06/07
  21.   Good principle 10:12  |  Bill 18/06/07
  22.   All in all, California is stolen goods; Natalie bad news 10:26  |  Shlomo 18/06/07
  23.   A piece of real estate 10:34  |  Yonatan 18/06/07
  24.   David G-#16 Land for peace in Gaza? 10:35  |  Daniel Leopold 18/06/07
  25.   The Golan-Welcome to Israel 10:37  |  Michael Gorinsky 18/06/07
  26.   It will not work 10:49  |  Indrajaya 18/06/07
  27.   # Fact is stranger than Fiction 11:01  |  Kate 18/06/07
  28.   Keep it 11:06  |  bill 18/06/07
  29.   Newsflash for Shlomo 11:07  |  Natallie Durson 18/06/07
  30.   Again, the only thing I can say ... 11:21  |  Andreas 18/06/07
  31.   Indrajaya # 26 11:28  |  ChanahS 18/06/07
  32.   #5 Thanks for the potted history lesson, David Teich 11:32  |  Johnboy 18/06/07
  33.   who cares? 11:37  |  christoph 18/06/07
  34.   the arguments for keeping the golan are fallacious 11:38  |  A.M. 18/06/07
  35.   #29 Newsflashing Back at ya 11:43  |  Kate 18/06/07
  36.   I totally agree with you Nadav,Thanks 11:43  |  trumpeldor 18/06/07
  37.   Peace in Europe between the arch foes like... .... 11:43  |  Karl 18/06/07
  38.   Man, this is one bad article. Jingoism writ large. 11:45  |  Johnboy 18/06/07
  39.   20: Daniel, you need to look at more facts 11:46  |  David Teich 18/06/07
  40.   GIVE ME A BREAK 12:28  |  Danny 18/06/07
  41.   #39 The Piece for Peace Facts with Egypt 12:38  |  Kate 18/06/07
  42.   to ChanahS #31 12:39  |  zeev 18/06/07
  43.   Germany also lost fair and square y not demand part of Germany? 12:40  |  Tupac 18/06/07
  44.   Right on! 12:41  |  thank you 18/06/07
  45.   5 David Teich: Thats because the World put Isreal on the map. 12:47  |  Tupac 18/06/07
  46.   The Golan and International Law 12:49  |  Anthony Podesta 18/06/07
  47.   343 BECAUSE TUPAC YOU ARE TOTALLY IGNORANT 12:51  |  paul harris 18/06/07
  48.   27 Kate: UN resolutions say so; the same UN that created Israel. 12:55  |  Tupac 18/06/07
  49.   IMAGINE WHAT THE THUGS WOULD DO WITH THE GOLAN 12:58  |  LENNY 18/06/07
  50.   Tupac Germany Lost Land to Poland 13:00  |  Zebulonguy 18/06/07
  51.   Zeev # 42 13:05  |  ChanahS 18/06/07
  52.   #9 Natallie Durson 13:05  |  Michael 18/06/07
  53.   #32 Johnboy 13:11  |  Michael 18/06/07
  54.   Danny # 40 13:12  |  ChanahS 18/06/07
  55.   Lest we forget the Kurds 13:15  |  FOX 18/06/07
  56.   SYRIAN PEACE: APPLY SYRIAN-TURKISH MODEL, NOT EGYPT-ISRAEL MODEL 13:16  |  MG 18/06/07
  57.   Fair is fair - Syria annexed Israeli territory on the Jordan... 13:23  |  Scott 18/06/07
  58.   Paul: Jews can live Golan or Pal just like in Germany 13:28  |  Tupac 18/06/07
  59.   The Golan Hts. Belongs to the Druze 13:28  |  Rebel INS 18/06/07
  60.   Israel`s claims to Golan 13:30  |  michael3k 18/06/07
  61.   #46 INCORRECT ANTHONY YOU QUOTE THE WRONG LAW 13:32  |  paul harris 18/06/07
  62.   #44 Completely incorrect 13:37  |  Kate 18/06/07
  63.   #59 The Golan Druze 13:49  |  Kate 18/06/07
  64.   #56 AND DO NOT FORGET THE TURKISH CYPRUS ANNEXATION 13:53  |  paul harris 18/06/07
  65.   a window 13:56  |  Axel 18/06/07
  66.   #45 TUPAC TAKE YOUR FOOT OUT OF YOUR MOUTH 13:58  |  paul harris 18/06/07
  67.   Syria must withdraw from Hauran Region 14:01  |  Joseph E . 18/06/07
  68.   Tell it to the Syrians 14:02  |  Murray 18/06/07
  69.   GOLAN PART OF G-D`S LAND INHERITANCE FOR JEWISH PEOPLE ?? 14:19  |  Bill. 18/06/07
  70.   Golan Heights 14:22  |  Ruba 18/06/07
  71.   #14 Daniel L. 14:31  |  itsik 18/06/07
  72.   #38 Jonnyboyyou`rewrong... 14:38  |  itsik 18/06/07
  73.   Golan is Israeli, just cope with it 14:40  |  Johnny 18/06/07
  74.   Alsase 14:42  |  Gene 18/06/07
  75.   Johnboy #38 14:44  |  Johnny 18/06/07
  76.   @30, andreas, may be start studying russian correct spelling????? 14:49  |  vladimir 18/06/07
  77.   re #55 Sorry Folks 14:51  |  FOX 18/06/07
  78.   # 62 Kate. The Golan........ 14:51  |  Kath` 18/06/07
  79.   #2 funny logic Who`s first? 14:52  |  Dik 18/06/07
  80.   Good article 14:57  |  Briton 18/06/07
  81.   To Mr.Nadav Shragai. 15:01  |  Kath` 18/06/07
  82.   SAME AS THE SYRIA-IRAQ BORDER 15:08  |  Ian 18/06/07
  83.   What a pity then you`ll have to give it up. 15:10  |  Gittan Shine 18/06/07
  84.   @56, bediiuk. agree, but we must take the same 15:10  |  vladimir 18/06/07
  85.   and Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Jordan... 15:12  |  Hassan 18/06/07
  86.   # 71 itsik. re:Daniel.Peace deal with Egypt.. 15:12  |  Kath` 18/06/07
  87.   Axel and special laws for Jews 15:14  |  Jonathan S 18/06/07
  88.   @59, rebel idiot, what did you smoke??? 15:14  |  vladimir 18/06/07
  89.   So G-d gave you the Golan too? 15:15  |  Mette 18/06/07
  90.   AND SO.... 15:15  |  Stephen Connor 18/06/07
  91.   A.M. - YOU MISSED THE MOST IMPORTANT ARGUMENT 15:24  |  Stephen Connor 18/06/07
  92.   # 59 Rebel INS. re:the Druze 15:29  |  Kath` 18/06/07
  93.   Anthony Podesta - Eternal Law 15:30  |  Stephen Connor 18/06/07
  94.   Golan Heights 15:35  |  Dik 18/06/07
  95.   Bill - That`s Rubbish 15:38  |  Stephen Connor 18/06/07
  96.   #75 Johnny 15:38  |  Johnboy 18/06/07
  97.   Hassan - And so be it. 15:52  |  Stephen Connor 18/06/07
  98.   He got you there Johnny 15:55  |  Stephen Connor 18/06/07
  99.   He got you there Johnny 15:55  |  Stephen Connor 18/06/07
  100.   @89, mette, not 5% but probably 25% 15:59  |  vladimir 18/06/07
  101.   Hassan cont. 15:59  |  Stephen Connor 18/06/07
  102.   Johnboy 96 they keep the land if no surrender and treaty 16:01  |  The Equalizer 18/06/07
  103.   Stephen Conner and granting citizenship 16:02  |  newageblues 18/06/07
  104.   # 89 Mette,. So G-D gave you the Golan too?Sorry,your point?? 16:07  |  Kath` 18/06/07
  105.   Nutcase zionists... 16:14  |  John 18/06/07
  106.   More land 16:16  |  Johnf 18/06/07
  107.   Stephen Oconnor , No it is NOT so. #91 16:17  |  FOX 18/06/07
  108.   Tell that to the 600,000 Golan Syrian Refugees 16:21  |  Bandar Michaels 18/06/07
  109.   Excellent article 16:23  |  Ofer 18/06/07
  110.   D.Leopold: Land For Peace Or No Land And No Peace? 16:33  |  massaraksh 18/06/07
  111.   vladmir 16:35  |  MEtte 18/06/07
  112.   #Vladimir: 16:35  |  Andreas 18/06/07
  113.   Golan theft 16:37  |  oliver masterman 18/06/07
  114.   Kath "Really what is your point here,by bringing in 16:39  |  mette 18/06/07
  115.   history passes them all byLEBANON IS PART OF MANDATED SYRIA 16:40  |  paul harris 18/06/07
  116.   #26: INDONESIAN MURDERERS CONFIRMED!! 16:41  |  ANTONIUS 18/06/07
  117.   to ChanahS #51 - part 1 16:41  |  zeev 18/06/07
  118.   John: Nutcase Netherlanders 16:42  |  CHGODMK 18/06/07
  119.   Natallie Durson`s Post to Shlomo #29 16:47  |  CHGODMK 18/06/07
  120.   #108 Busting your refugee bubble 16:50  |  Kate 18/06/07
  121.   "Emphasizing the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory 17:05  |  Scott Hunter 18/06/07
  122.   # 114 Mete. HAVE WE HAD OUR WIRES CROSSED? 17:12  |  Kath` 18/06/07
  123.   Israel`s Insane Behavior 17:18  |  Mirabel 18/06/07
  124.   to the warmongers and the cheerleaders 17:19  |  combatant- 1973 war 18/06/07
  125.   #114 Kath is right - this is not a religious issue 17:19  |  Kate 18/06/07
  126.   to ChanahS #51 - part 2/2 17:21  |  zeev 18/06/07
  127.   Argument 17:24  |  Jack 18/06/07
  128.   Argument 17:24  |  Jack 18/06/07
  129.   Argument 17:24  |  Jack 18/06/07
  130.   Hitler was correct... 17:27  |  Lou Medel 18/06/07
  131.   If the Israeli govt had a brain 17:29  |  Danite 18/06/07
  132.   Argument 17:30  |  Jack 18/06/07
  133.   Indrajaya and his tenuous grip on reality 17:40  |  Polybios 18/06/07
  134.   @121: What about the Inadmissibility of Aggression? 17:40  |  massaraksh 18/06/07
  135.   Jews are Israel? 17:47  |  Henk 18/06/07
  136.   FOX #77 17:49  |  Danite 18/06/07
  137.   Danite: Questions re: Palis 18:01  |  CHGODMK 18/06/07
  138.   1973 combatant 18:09  |  Polybios 18/06/07
  139.   # 64 paul-boy 18:14  |  Axel 18/06/07
  140.   # 9 Hey durson long time ni talk.... 18:17  |  misha 18/06/07
  141.   A couple of clarifications 18:18  |  Tosefta 18/06/07
  142.   # 87 Jonathan S 18:20  |  Axel 18/06/07
  143.   The price for Keeping the Golan 18:20  |  Tosefta 18/06/07
  144.   Johnboy 96 U don`t be insolent -Syria was/is a dictatorship 18:22  |  VinoGrad Veritas 18/06/07
  145.   stephen connor 18:26  |  A.M. 18/06/07
  146.   # 121 scott hunter 18:26  |  Axel 18/06/07
  147.   # 26 Hey inda..... 18:28  |  misha 18/06/07
  148.   # 134 massa 18:29  |  Axel 18/06/07
  149.   The Golan: ideal way to prove if Arabs can conceide something 18:29  |  Alain 18/06/07
  150.   Lou Medel who was in bed with Hitler 18:31  |  VinoVeritas 18/06/07
  151.   Jerusalem Post article? 18:35  |  Shuki 18/06/07
  152.   Bardon me, but this logic can be reversed! 18:38  |  Sharif Hafez 18/06/07
  153.   Danite: Deals with the Palis 18:41  |  CHGODMK 18/06/07
  154.   Nice story, Nadav, but... 18:44  |  Ben Alofs 18/06/07
  155.   GOLAN SHOULD NEVER BE GIVEN BACK! 18:46  |  Siem 18/06/07
  156.   Thanks Natalie Durston! 18:51  |  DrO 18/06/07
  157.   # 22 Don`t confuse durson with americans... 18:51  |  misha 18/06/07
  158.   either all territory is stolen, or no territory is stolen 18:52  |  Joe 18/06/07
  159.   Israel my heart 18:56  |  souied albert 18/06/07
  160.   Nadav is right. Israel won the Golan "fair and square" 19:03  |  Jason 18/06/07
  161.   #23 How strange, Yonathan... 19:03  |  Ben Alofs 18/06/07
  162.   Land thief Israel 19:04  |  Dav 18/06/07
  163.   Axel # 145 19:08  |  ChanahS 18/06/07
  164.   # 143 tosefta 19:15  |  Axel 18/06/07
  165.   Golan Belongs to the Strong 19:20  |  Clickfan 18/06/07
  166.   ps... 19:22  |  Dr O 18/06/07
  167.   Anthony #46 - while technically true - UNR 242 states 19:22  |  William 18/06/07
  168.   DrO in London re: Natallie Durson 19:23  |  CHGODMK 18/06/07
  169.   #141 Clarifying Tosefta`s Clarifications 19:31  |  Kate 18/06/07
  170.   reply to 138 19:31  |  combatant 1973 18/06/07
  171.   So the Rhineland was Germany`s? 19:35  |  David Erlichman 18/06/07
  172.   # 163 ChanahS 19:46  |  Axel 18/06/07
  173.   Under the UN Charter Acquisition of land by war is illegal 19:47  |  Fred Farkelsteinman 18/06/07
  174.   what a load of crap 19:48  |  someone 18/06/07
  175.   GIVING UP THE GOLAN WOULD HURT ISRAEL 20:03  |  zionist forever 18/06/07
  176.   #173 Restating the Obvious of UNSR 242 20:05  |  Kate 18/06/07
  177.   WHAT A LOAD OF RUBBISH THIS ARTICLE IS 20:08  |  Don Camillo 18/06/07
  178.   # 167 William 20:28  |  Axel 18/06/07
  179.   Great article 20:33  |  B 18/06/07
  180.   # 176 Kate 20:38  |  Axel 18/06/07
  181.   Correction to Kate`s clarification #169 20:40  |  Tosefta 18/06/07
  182.   Fred Farkelsteinman 20:46  |  zeevola 18/06/07
  183.   # 176 Kate 20:50  |  Axel 18/06/07
  184.   ugh. 20:51  |  tadchase 18/06/07
  185.   Haaretz - world leading publisher of Anti-Semitic trash 20:53  |  David 18/06/07
  186.   CHGODMK 20:55  |  Danite 18/06/07
  187.   Danite: Missing the Point 21:03  |  CHGODMK 18/06/07
  188.   David G 21:13  |  tadchase 18/06/07
  189.   Golan 21:14  |  JB 18/06/07
  190.   Tosefta 21:21  |  Polybios 18/06/07
  191.   What a LOGIC,I LOVE my friends`house? 21:23  |  Gordon 18/06/07
  192.   So funny and ridiculous: healthy intuition 21:23  |  Mark B. 18/06/07
  193.   someone at Haaretz don`t like me today 21:26  |  newageblues 18/06/07
  194.   new israeli joke 21:32  |  frederic 18/06/07
  195.   Schlomo 21:32  |  tadchase 18/06/07
  196.   for the israeli people 21:36  |  sweden 18/06/07
  197.   Not only is Golan more Israeli but... 21:37  |  bat yam 18/06/07
  198.   # 182 zeevola 21:42  |  Axel 18/06/07
  199.   the Golan is Druze/Circasi 21:45  |  Seth J 18/06/07
  200.   Juvenile religous tosh 21:47  |  Greg Stiller 18/06/07
  201.   32: Poor JB, lost w/o context again 21:52  |  David Teich 18/06/07
  202.   45: Tupac`s ignorance pops up again 21:59  |  David Teich 18/06/07
  203.   BTW Nathalie, you ARE sitting in Mexican territory. 22:04  |  Fortuna Benmayor 18/06/07
  204.   181: Poor Tosefta, out of Left field again 22:06  |  David Teich 18/06/07
  205.   #181 An intelligent answer 22:06  |  Kate 18/06/07
  206.   it all sounds good; BUT... 22:08  |  eric 18/06/07
  207.   Hermon in Biblical History 22:09  |  Joseph E . Post 1 18/06/07
  208.   Tosefta: Yom Kippur war, read at least one book 22:14  |  David Teich 18/06/07
  209.   #176 - Kate - UNSCR Does Not Allow Israel to Occupy Land - PERIOD 22:19  |  Fred Farkelsteinman 18/06/07
  210.   Return Golan Heights! 22:31  |  Mikael 18/06/07
  211.   #186, Danite,. `the pals will never be ok` 22:34  |  newageblues 18/06/07
  212.   Correction again (Kate #196; David Teich #195) 22:35  |  Tosefta 18/06/07
  213.   Fortuna Benmayor 22:36  |  tadchase 18/06/07
  214.   #205 FRED AND ERROR AGAIN AND AGAIN 22:37  |  paul harris 18/06/07
  215.   Danite: Missing the Point 22:39  |  CHGODMK 18/06/07
  216.   Danite #136 what? 22:43  |  FOX 18/06/07
  217.   newage blues 22:48  |  Danite 18/06/07
  218.   Tosefta, wrong #181 22:51  |  FOX 18/06/07
  219.   Axel 22:52  |  zeevola 18/06/07
  220.   #126, zeev 22:55  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 18/06/07
  221.   #157 Misha; Natalie speaks for many Americans 22:55  |  ballistic 18/06/07
  222.   CHGODMK 22:55  |  Danite 18/06/07
  223.   FOX Hello 23:02  |  Danite 18/06/07
  224.   #161 Ben Alofs -poor grasp of events 23:04  |  Yonatan 18/06/07
  225.   #190, Polybios 23:14  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 18/06/07
  226.   Ben Alofs, Majd al Shams pollster 23:21  |  Polybios 18/06/07
  227.   Paul Harris Twisting the Facts Once Again 23:23  |  Fred Farkelsteinman 18/06/07
  228.   Syria`s intent (Polybius #190) 23:24  |  Tosefta 18/06/07
  229.   TO FOX 23:25  |  LY 18/06/07
  230.   # 214 paul-boy 23:28  |  Axel 18/06/07
  231.   The Golan was, is, and always will be part of Israel 23:45  |  AV 18/06/07
  232.   Danite to FOX (#218) 23:57  |  CHGODMK 18/06/07
  233.   # 220 Cipora 00:01  |  Axel 19/06/07
  234.   Golan is Brootsy 00:02  |  John 19/06/07
  235.   This author is hopefully not an example of Israeli new logic 00:07  |  Mark B. 19/06/07
  236.   more for Natalie and the other demonizers of Israel 00:10  |  Dr O 19/06/07
  237.   no more land deals. those days over. now peace for peace or nothi 00:11  |  ralph 19/06/07
  238.   # 221 polybios 00:12  |  Axel 19/06/07
  239.   Hermon in Biblical History 00:13  |  Joseph E . Post 2 19/06/07
  240.   Hermon in Biblical History 00:18  |  Joseph E . Post 3 19/06/07
  241.   #201 David Teich, wrong AGAIN PArt 1 00:21  |  Johnboy 19/06/07
  242.   Hermon in Biblical History 00:21  |  Joseph E . Post 4 19/06/07
  243.   As long as Golan is OCCUPIED no Peace on N E. 00:26  |  AmnonB 19/06/07
  244.   #201 David Teich wrong AGAIN Part 2 00:28  |  Johnboy 19/06/07
  245.   frederic -- believe what you want, but it doesn`t make it real 00:30  |  bbl 19/06/07
  246.   #217, Danite, would Israel support Taba Geneva? 00:30  |  newageblues 19/06/07
  247.   To Natallie Durson # 9 00:34  |  Bob 19/06/07
  248.   David G-# 6-Land for peace works -BS 00:34  |  Gilbert 19/06/07
  249.   Syria`s intent (Polybius #190) 00:35  |  Tosefta 19/06/07
  250.   #209 MR FRED FARKELSTEINMAN, Thank you 00:35  |  Arik 19/06/07
  251.   *95 STEPHEN CONNER. 00:43  |  Bill. 19/06/07
  252.   CHGODMK 00:49  |  tadchase 19/06/07
  253.   # 190 Polybios.re:Tosefta... 00:50  |  Kath` 19/06/07
  254.   ####Tosefta and Fred Farkelsteinman 00:50  |  Becky 19/06/07
  255.   Zeev 00:51  |  schafe82 19/06/07
  256.   #167 William talks rubbish 00:53  |  Johnboy 19/06/07
  257.   # 143 No deal.... 00:55  |  misha 19/06/07
  258.   UN says no to landgrabing in wars?So stop wars against Israel 00:56  |  infidel 19/06/07
  259.   Israel`s land claims? 00:58  |  Michael Martin-Smith 19/06/07
  260.   #53 Michael 01:00  |  Johnboy 19/06/07
  261.   On reading this 01:01  |  Peter Dale 19/06/07
  262.   Syria`s claim to the Golan is even more laughable than Brooty`s! 01:06  |  Joe 19/06/07
  263.   #60 Michael3k tells a little "untruth" 01:12  |  Johnboy 19/06/07
  264.   #223 "Golan will always be part of Israel" 01:17  |  Michael Martin-Smith 19/06/07
  265.   *95 STEPHEN CONNER. 2/ 01:17  |  Bill. 19/06/07
  266.   # 173 -A Naturey carta view 01:18  |  misha 19/06/07
  267.   #176 Kate puts on the rose colored glasses 01:28  |  Johnboy 19/06/07
  268.   CHGODMK 01:49  |  Danite 19/06/07
  269.   Seperations are critical! 02:06  |  Tim 19/06/07
  270.   Seperations are critical! 02:07  |  Tim 19/06/07
  271.   perhaps at some point the golan can become like andorra ruled by 02:13  |  ralph 19/06/07
  272.   Natalie Durson 02:13  |  Connie 19/06/07
  273.   #43 tupac 02:20  |  reuben jacobs 19/06/07
  274.   "223 AV 02:40  |  Labhras 19/06/07
  275.   Iraq is American 02:52  |  JP 19/06/07
  276.   # 190 Polybios re;Tosefta (SECOND TRY).. 02:54  |  Kath` 19/06/07
  277.   Pfft 02:59  |  JJ 19/06/07
  278.   A.M. 03:10  |  StephenConnor 19/06/07
  279.   #209 03:12  |  Moshe 1 19/06/07
  280.   Syria`s intent (Polybius #190) - 3rd try 03:15  |  Tosefta 19/06/07
  281.   PRAGMATISM IS DEAD!!! 03:18  |  StephenConnor 19/06/07
  282.   Who cares 03:25  |  Nemesis 19/06/07
  283.   End the great Israeli land giveaway. No more Israeli retreat! 03:27  |  Chaim 19/06/07
  284.   The Golan 03:34  |  Shmuelshachor 19/06/07
  285.   #209 03:39  |  Moshe-2 19/06/07
  286.   KATE-re; "AXEL" 03:39  |  Jon Feigenbaum 19/06/07
  287.   itsik-# 71-What`s the alternative? 03:39  |  Daniel Leopold 19/06/07
  288.   Kath-#86-How far will you go? 03:47  |  Daniel Leopold 19/06/07
  289.   UN says no to landgrabing in wars?So stop wars against Israel 03:50  |  infidel 19/06/07
  290.   It follows that Jerusalem is more Arab than Jewish 03:56  |  Jozef 19/06/07
  291.   I AM DRUZE re: kate, vladimir 03:58  |  Rebel INS 19/06/07
  292.   David Teich-# 39-Look at the facts [1] 04:03  |  Daniel Leopold 19/06/07
  293.   David Teich-# 39-Look at the facts [2] 04:12  |  Daniel Leopold 19/06/07
  294.   Kate #169 04:23  |  JJ 19/06/07
  295.   The Syrian Point of View 04:58  |  Israel is-real! 19/06/07
  296.   #177 To all who claim the land is not acquired 05:07  |  Bob 19/06/07
  297.   To #46 05:21  |  Howard 19/06/07
  298.   To the victor the spoils...the enemy defeat. 05:24  |  Larry 19/06/07
  299.   Western Civilization 05:26  |  Larry 19/06/07
  300.   Bob # 258 05:27  |  nathan 19/06/07
  301.   To Jozef #252 05:30  |  whomever 19/06/07
  302.   Assad...Deal of No Deal 05:30  |  Larry 19/06/07
  303.   To Jozef #252 05:31  |  whomever 19/06/07
  304.   Golan is strategic to Israeli Defense 05:31  |  Israel 19/06/07
  305.   TRY TELLING OLMERT 05:32  |  Zionist forever 19/06/07
  306.   tadchase in San Francisco 05:38  |  CHGODMK 19/06/07
  307.   Just two words about your article: BS 05:42  |  Mr.Ami Goldman 19/06/07
  308.   Danite: The Patterns 05:49  |  CHGODMK 19/06/07
  309.   Michael to Johnboy 05:53  |  Silvienne 19/06/07
  310.   Fortuna Benmayor to Nathalie 05:58  |  Silvienne 19/06/07
  311.   Not so, Connie... 06:02  |  Silvienne 19/06/07
  312.   Danite #222 06:03  |  CHGODMK 19/06/07
  313.   Golan is so nice 06:11  |  nunie 19/06/07
  314.   #310 silvienne evidence please of land grab 07:57  |  paul harris 19/06/07
  315.   #311 silvienn is remarkably reminiscent of mark lincolnsoldstyle 08:00  |  paul harris 19/06/07
  316.   Golan 08:08  |  Mark 19/06/07
  317.   Blinkered geography 08:09  |  Velvl Shmerlson 19/06/07
  318.   #296 Bob shows an ignorance of history 08:16  |  Johnboy 19/06/07
  319.   to C. J. Kohn #220 09:14  |  zeev 19/06/07
  320.   Bunch of.... "!@£$%^*" 09:33  |  Fredrick Dittlau 19/06/07
  321.   to C. J. Kohn #13 10:04  |  zeev 19/06/07
  322.   # 315 paul!?...paUL!?...PAUL!??? 10:59  |  eric 19/06/07
  323.   what a load of rubbish 11:52  |  VIPER 19/06/07
  324.   Zeev # 321 12:45  |  Peter Dale 19/06/07
  325.   Johnboy 38 13:21  |  Chasa Boy 19/06/07
  326.   212: Yes, Tosefta, the truth`s so "inapproprite", isn`t it? 13:52  |  David Teich 19/06/07
  327.   #323 Chasa Boy poses a question 14:08  |  Johnboy 19/06/07
  328.   244: JB ignoring unhandy facts yet again 14:55  |  David Teich 19/06/07
  329.   292-3: Daniel, closer 15:02  |  David Teich 19/06/07
  330.   324: JB screws up again. No surprise there 15:08  |  David Teich 19/06/07
  331.   #326 David Teich descends into an imaginary world 15:55  |  Johnboy 19/06/07
  332.   #329 Man, can David be any the MORE wrong?? 16:03  |  Johnboy 19/06/07
  333.   Johnboy 18:44  |  Shlomo 19/06/07
  334.   #221 Ballistic 18:46  |  Michael Martin-Smith 19/06/07
  335.   #321, zeev 20:48  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 19/06/07
  336.   #319, zeev 1 21:11  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 19/06/07
  337.   #319, zeev 2 21:22  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 19/06/07
  338.   #319, zeev 3 21:34  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 19/06/07
  339.   #324, Peter Dale 21:39  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 19/06/07
  340.   The "All Land is Theft "Argument 21:47  |  geezer 19/06/07
  341.   Haaretz, where is #2 to zeev, bevakasha? 23:25  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 19/06/07
  342.   #285 - Moshe - You are very wrong 01:15  |  Fred Farkelsteinman 20/06/07
  343.   #333 Shlomo`s argument 01:40  |  Johnboy 20/06/07
  344.   #333 Shlomo, and this bit.... 01:46  |  Johnboy 20/06/07
  345.   #328, david teich, WRONG AGAIN 02:26  |  VIPER 20/06/07
  346.   #328 David`s make-believe world rears its head again 02:38  |  Johnboy 20/06/07
  347.   #328 David makes up his "convenient facts" 03:07  |  Johnboy 20/06/07
  348.   #328 David`s little fog of confusion. 03:29  |  Johnboy 20/06/07
  349.   Jozef #290 -- Have you ever seen the demographics? 03:44  |  bbl 20/06/07
  350.   Paul Harris...are you there? 08:29  |  Silvienne 20/06/07
  351.   to C. J. Kohn #335/6/7/8 10:17  |  zeev 20/06/07
  352.   to C. J. Kohn #339 10:44  |  zeev 20/06/07
  353.   Cipora. Disattention? A memory memo. 11:26  |  Peter Dale 20/06/07
  354.   # 333 to shlomo 11:38  |  eric 20/06/07
  355.   to C. J. Kohn #335 - 2nd try 11:47  |  zeev 20/06/07
  356.   # 348 smiling faces, johnboy 12:00  |  eric 20/06/07
  357.   ZEEV 22:48  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 20/06/07
  358.   ZEEV 2 00:50  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 21/06/07
  359.   Cipora 358 02:34  |  Silvienne 21/06/07
  360.   #358 Well, its a bold claim, Cipora, I`ll give you that. 04:49  |  Johnboy