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In the enlightened world it's called robbery
By Benny Ziffer

The discovery of Herod's tomb, or to be more precise a few fragments of dressed stone that one archaeology professor has concluded are the remains of Herod's sarcophagus, have preoccupied television news and magazine programs since Tuesday. Amid the general zeal of the Londons and the Kirschenbaums and their talking-heads colleagues for demonstrating their mastery of the history of the Second Temple period, and to revive debates from their youth movement days over whether Herod was good or bad for the Jews, one important detail was forgotten, or almost forgotten: that the excavation of this tomb of Herod was carried out in occupied territory, where Israel has no moral right to dig and certainly not to remove archaeological artifacts. In the enlightened world, what Israel is
doing is called robbery.

According to Israeli law, of course, the robbery is organized and supported by state officials bearing the title of junior staff officer for archaeology. Below them or alongside them in the hierarchy there are others, such as director of the Gush Etzion Field School. All these idealists expressed their happiness that day, in front of the television cameras, at the exciting discovery at Herodium, because it is another nail in the hold of the eternal Jewish people on its eternal land on the 40th anniversary of the liberation of the land, etc. etc.

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The cameras did not conceal the fact that the excavation of the sarcophagus and the surrounding buildings was carried out on the territory of a populated Palestinian village. But when Prof. Ehud Netzer, the excavator who sought and found, appeared on Tuesday evening on the aforementioned news magazine "London and Kirschenbaum," (Israel Channel 10, 7 P.M.), or on Channel 1 news (9 P.M.), none of the interviewers thought to ask him about the legitimacy of the dig and about the egregious gap between the academic faculty ranks and physical coercion.

The only ones who exhibited a certain degree of sobriety among the general euphoria were (for a change) Gadi and Yonit on Channel 2 news, who rightfully mentioned the presence of a military force in the Herodium area. Even they could see that the armed soldiers strolling through the Palestinian village were not there out of scientific curiosity.

It would appear that the ideological bias flows almost naturally from the basic immorality of excavating in occupied territory: The rush to declare that this is Herod's grave recalls various vain attempts by local archaeologists to deceive the world with sensational discoveries that have little connection to reality and which dissipate like soap bubbles: beginning with the dubious Josiah inscription, which turned out to be a forgery; continuing with the fraudulent James Ossuary, reputed to be that of Jesus' brother; the family tomb of Jesus' family, that recently caused a baseless sensation; not to mention the cave discovered in the Judean Hills a couple of years ago, which, based on a few blurred carvings on its walls, was attributed to John the Baptist, with the same certainty and insistence that the same Jerusalem professor is now attributing four broken stones to Herod.

It is important to point out the accepted ritual, or quasi-ritual, that occurs on television when it is obliged to cover archaeology news. They are informed of a sensational find, and duly pass this information on to the audience, always with a festive announcement by the news anchor about something being discovered "after 2,000 years." In the case of Herod's tomb, the majesty of royalty was added to the proceedings, together with a longing for the days of splendor, as it were, of Herodian rule. And everyone was happy and proud to contribute information about the great king, who "as we know" murdered his wife and children, and worshiped his mother, as if to say: "Look, we had our very own King Henry VIII."

The scientific community used to mock Romanian archaeologists, who during the Ceausescu dictatorship were forced to describe every find that fell into their hands as Romanian-Dacian, in order to serve the national ideology that defined the Romanians as the direct descendants of the Dacians, who fought valiantly against Emperor Trajan. Archaeology was distorted in other ways in other unfree countries, but it was almost always distorted. Here in Israel there is ostensibly no dictatorship, but there is a great deal of motivation to grab at any straw in order to distort. On Tuesday, this straw was the remains of the tomb of an invented King Herod. How is that different from those same vain beliefs in the grave of this unknown tanna [Mishnaic sage] and that anonymous amora [Talmudic sage], when it is clear to any intelligent person that they are apparently nothing more than the graves of sheikhs that were Judaicized by officials of the Religious Affairs Ministry?

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  1.   The PLO Gave Up ALL Sovereign Claims In 1964 10:32  |  Yishai Kohen 11/05/07
  2.   In Herodium as in Jerusalem 10:36  |  Ilan 11/05/07
  3.   In the enlightened world your view is called nonsense 11:06  |  Per 11/05/07
  4.   IF IT`S ALL UP TO `THEM` WE ALSO HAVE NO RIGHT TO DIG IN TELAVIV. 11:13  |  Ben 11/05/07
  5.   People who live in glass houses should shower in the basement 11:42  |  Alan Schleider 11/05/07
  6.   This is one of the most 11:58  |  Zev 11/05/07
  7.   Who the hell is Benny Ziffer? 12:00  |  Beni 11/05/07
  8.   "invented King Herod" 12:00  |  Seth J. Frantzman 11/05/07
  9.   thanks Benny... 12:02  |  palestinianheritage 11/05/07
  10.   In the enlightened world it`s called something else 12:10  |  TonyL 11/05/07
  11.   Beni Beni yeled tov 12:18  |  Casif 11/05/07
  12.   Jews out of Judaea! 12:47  |  charles 11/05/07
  13.   zIFFER I DIFFER ON YOUR VIEWS!! THE LAND IS ALL 12:55  |  paul harris 11/05/07
  14.   #9 what "heritage"? 12:56  |  Hastaroth 11/05/07
  15.   #3 13:15  |  grazia 11/05/07
  16.   Israel has the obligation to do the dig. 13:18  |  A Jew 11/05/07
  17.   Ziffer , maybe Ziftler, less real than Herod 13:51  |  Shlomo 11/05/07
  18.   Historic home 13:51  |  Jan Elshout 11/05/07
  19.   My Narrative 14:13  |  Flavius Joe 11/05/07
  20.   The PLO Gave Up ALL Sovereign Claims In 1964? 14:36  |  Mark Lincoln 11/05/07
  21.   temple mount - Har Habayit 14:56  |  Israel 11/05/07
  22.   to Mark Lincoln 20 15:02  |  young and old 11/05/07
  23.   Benny Ziffer: Israel had no right to conduct Herod dig in W. Bank 15:16  |  Boris 11/05/07
  24.   The Jewish historical presence in Eretz Yisrael 15:17  |  Shalom Freedman 11/05/07
  25.   eyze sina!: such loathing of one`s own people 16:13  |  nh 11/05/07
  26.   what nonsense 16:45  |  rich 11/05/07
  27.   grazia 16:46  |  rich 11/05/07
  28.   Elgin marbles, Cleopatra`s needle, Rosetta stone are not looted? 16:46  |  Jake 11/05/07
  29.   Whine, whine, whine, whine, whine 16:49  |  fmb 11/05/07
  30.   Jan Elshout 16:52  |  rich 11/05/07
  31.   Jan Elshout 2 16:55  |  rich 11/05/07
  32.   Mark Lincoln 16:56  |  rich 11/05/07
  33.   This article seems to have everything backwards. 16:58  |  Pamela Levene 11/05/07
  34.   Was planting Al Aqsa on The Holy of Holies a moral deed? NO! 17:04  |  Zvi-Hersch 11/05/07
  35.   # 4 - Ben you are so right! Benny you are so wrong. 17:12  |  Pamela Levene 11/05/07
  36.   This article is total rubbish 17:14  |  Shlomo from Tel Aviv 11/05/07
  37.   Falsification of history 17:30  |  Amin Nusseibeh 11/05/07
  38.   I am most definitely NOT a Zionist 17:35  |  Daniel van Dalen 11/05/07
  39.   Absolute Sillyness 17:40  |  inigo montoya 11/05/07
  40.   Meanwhile 17:41  |  inigo montoya 11/05/07
  41.   resp. #1 Your reading of the charter is intellectually dishonest 17:43  |  Henry 11/05/07
  42.   Thank you, Benny Ziffer. 17:47  |  Deborah 11/05/07
  43.   continued from "to #8 (and others)" 17:51  |  Shoshannah 11/05/07
  44.   Herod`s tomb 17:58  |  George Duraisingh 11/05/07
  45.   Ziffer - a secular Neturei Karta 17:59  |  Chick Corea 11/05/07
  46.   to #8 (and others) 18:08  |  Shoshannah 11/05/07
  47.   Time to have a real discussion of History 18:22  |  Mark Vanderberg 11/05/07
  48.   Herod 18:38  |  al di meola 11/05/07
  49.   #47Mark-time to discuss whether you exist or is it just nightmare 18:48  |  Mitch Iginer 11/05/07
  50.   #33 Pamela Leveene 19:00  |  Boycott 11/05/07
  51.   #47mark, WHY DON`T YOU TAKE YOUR DISCUSIION TO A NEO-NAZI SITE?? 19:00  |  Ben 11/05/07
  52.   palestinianheritage...if your ancestors really owned.. 19:40  |  maria 11/05/07
  53.   Science is the Enemy of Palestine 19:44  |  Efox 11/05/07
  54.   Leftists do the Arabs` bidding 19:53  |  Steven 11/05/07
  55.   Benny Ziffer is one sick puppy 20:28  |  Chaim 11/05/07
  56.   Isarael Has Been Plundering Paletestinian Lands for Decades 20:32  |  Morris Goldbergstein 11/05/07
  57.   Well Said Mark #47 20:42  |  Mr. Knowitall 11/05/07
  58.   Benny: You hatred of Jews and Israel is astounding?! 21:08  |  Yosef 11/05/07
  59.   so you pals are the ones 21:11  |  m 11/05/07
  60.   Morris Goldbergstein -- why lie about Jewish scripture 21:12  |  bbl 11/05/07
  61.   Who else will protect our historical sites? 21:13  |  Joseph 11/05/07
  62.   Mark 47 21:13  |  Ran van de put 11/05/07
  63.   What a bunch of leftist, liberal hogwash, Benny. 21:14  |  d.dor 11/05/07
  64.   Beni read no 47 21:18  |  Ran 11/05/07
  65.   Mark Vanderberg # 47 U R very silly 21:22  |  bbl 11/05/07
  66.   Mark Vanderberg 21:29  |  Sarah 11/05/07
  67.   Mr. Knowitall 21:30  |  Sarah 11/05/07
  68.   Judea and Samaria are ISRAELI TERRITORITIES; Israel is sovereign 21:32  |  AV 11/05/07
  69.   Dear Haaretz Talkback Anti-Semite Psychopaths 21:37  |  Abir 11/05/07
  70.   no value to the pals, lot to us:not robbing 21:41  |  herod`s heir 11/05/07
  71.   what a fool. run him out of town, over the fence for good 21:43  |  ralph 11/05/07
  72.   lets see this fool says whereever an arab stepped is arab forever 21:46  |  ralph 11/05/07
  73.   Benny, your daughter Talila is ashame... 21:49  |  Iknowu 11/05/07
  74.   RE Maria,killing egyptions? 21:52  |  Billy Jack 11/05/07
  75.   Who is paying your salary Ziffer? Unbelievable. 21:54  |  Duh 11/05/07
  76.   Yishai Kohen - Then make every Pals a citizen 21:55  |  Da 11/05/07
  77.   "Herods Tomb" 22:48  |  Gary Pineda 11/05/07
  78.   Dont throw stones Benny Ziffer, if the.... 22:56  |  Marioam Boisvert 11/05/07
  79.   How Long Have You Been Denying The Truth Sara? 22:56  |  Mr. Knowitall 11/05/07
  80.   Benny ziffer 23:00  |  Nathan Szajnberg 11/05/07
  81.   Herod`s Tomb 23:04  |  Barak 11/05/07
  82.   The politician who knows better than the scientists 23:37  |  Norbert Lipszyc 11/05/07
  83.   blah blah 23:40  |  will turner 11/05/07
  84.   Dig it 23:54  |  Hen 11/05/07
  85.   congratulations to benny ziffer 00:00  |  raymond deane 12/05/07
  86.   TWO SCHMUCKS DANCING 00:30  |  THE OBSERVER 12/05/07
  87.   Is it dark in there? 00:38  |  Aron 12/05/07
  88.   #57 LISTEN TO THIS IDIOT 00:39  |  READER 12/05/07
  89.   Benny Ziffer is an idiot 00:46  |  Etoile 12/05/07
  90.   NO ALTERNATIVE. 00:48  |  Serge 12/05/07
  91.   Its rather obvious 00:48  |  Schtarker Yid 12/05/07
  92.   Benny Ziffer honors Israel 00:58  |  Daniel 12/05/07
  93.   why wasn`t this mentioned in the original article? 01:01  |  Pssd Off American 12/05/07
  94.   Haaretz becoming right wing 01:12  |  Daniel 12/05/07
  95.   RE. BENNY ZIFFER 01:31  |  NEIL FIERTEL 12/05/07
  96.   As a lefty and a peacenik 01:32  |  The Golem 12/05/07
  97.   Benny is a simpleton 01:34  |  Elizabeth Bennet 12/05/07
  98.   DNA proves European Jews come from Judea 01:38  |  Joe 12/05/07
  99.   Will Turner # 83 01:50  |  ChanahS 12/05/07
  100.   Ziffer and Will Turner 01:55  |  Neil Fiertel 12/05/07
  101.   Neil 02:00  |  Fiertel 12/05/07
  102.   Judea 02:33  |  John 12/05/07
  103.   Once a thief..... 02:35  |  kiwi girl 12/05/07
  104.   #103 kiwi girl 03:09  |  Observer 12/05/07
  105.   kiwi girl, mark linkoln 03:18  |  Realist 12/05/07
  106.   #103 TO THE KIWI GIRL 03:36  |  Historian 12/05/07
  107.   Benny Ziffer 03:41  |  Connie 12/05/07
  108.   kiwi girl 03:46  |  Connie 12/05/07
  109.   billy jack... 03:50  |  maria 12/05/07
  110.   Praise for Benny Ziffer 03:51  |  Ben Alofs 12/05/07
  111.   kiwi girl...the jewish people has the proof... 03:58  |  maria 12/05/07
  112.   billy jack...how old is... 04:11  |  maria 12/05/07
  113.   Frostbite falls must have frozen your head, like 47`s 04:29  |  Steve 12/05/07
  114.   Ben # 110 04:35  |  Horacio 12/05/07
  115.   Connie 04:36  |  Horacio 12/05/07
  116.   The Arabs are not native to Israel. They are a colonial People 05:02  |  Jack 12/05/07
  117.   the true robbery 05:03  |  Avner 12/05/07
  118.   #79 They need truth exposed Knowitall 05:12  |  tad 12/05/07
  119.   there just mad because 05:13  |  Me again 12/05/07
  120.   #!09 Geesh Maria 05:18  |  tad 12/05/07
  121.   Nusseibeh--Jews existed in ancient Palestine. 05:18  |  Jack 12/05/07
  122.   #83 Uh oh, Will, uh oh 05:21  |  ballistic 12/05/07
  123.   #98 Joe; hey Joe, we`ve heard that one before 05:23  |  ballistic 12/05/07
  124.   Joe: The Pure Jewish Pedigree #98 05:24  |  Highlander 12/05/07
  125.   #99 Say Chanah; you know what Will Turner 05:29  |  ballistic 12/05/07
  126.   #13 Say Paul Harris 05:32  |  ballistic 12/05/07
  127.   #47 Uh oh, uh oh, Mark V laying out 05:35  |  ballistic 12/05/07
  128.   Hey Maria 05:37  |  ballistic 12/05/07
  129.   RE maria 05:40  |  Billy Jack 12/05/07
  130.   Speaking of heritage 06:09  |  Ben Alofs 12/05/07
  131.   Kiwi girls right 06:11  |  Anubhav 12/05/07
  132.   #1 replying to Mr Kohen 06:27  |  Waleed 12/05/07
  133.   Amazing talkback.... 07:02  |  jake 12/05/07
  134.   the name PALESTINIAN is of Greek Origin 07:22  |  constantin 12/05/07
  135.   Actually Palestinians are NOT of Israelite origin 07:38  |  Joe 12/05/07
  136.   Ben Alofs 07:55  |  Danite 12/05/07
  137.   Ben Alofs 07:58  |  Danite 12/05/07
  138.   Jack, your DNA info is obsolete and misunderstood 08:33  |  Joe 12/05/07
  139.   Because don`t forget Moses led the Palestinians out of Egypt.. 10:23  |  amir 12/05/07
  140.   Thanks for seeing the humour in this 11:45  |  JS 12/05/07
  141.   Canaanites 12:03  |  melchizedek 12/05/07
  142.   Show me one City.... 12:10  |  Kiwiboy 12/05/07
  143.   Ballistic # 127 12:16  |  ChanahS 12/05/07
  144.   Whos got the vote 12:27  |  Kiwiboy 12/05/07
  145.   Ben Alofs DNA/Colonists/ 12:54  |  Zardos 12/05/07
  146.   #37 13:57  |  Moshe 12/05/07
  147.   Abusing archaeology for politcal purposes 14:59  |  Ben Alofs 12/05/07
  148.   Morris Goldbergstein of NY???????? 15:21  |  The Equalizer 12/05/07
  149.   Benny Ziffer 15:30  |  Mordechai B 12/05/07
  150.   # 7 " Who the hell is Benny Ziffer " 15:36  |  Michael B 12/05/07
  151.   Benny Zift 15:39  |  Clara Shemtov 12/05/07
  152.   re 89 B Ziffer 15:45  |  Martha 12/05/07
  153.   mark vanderberg 15:47  |  rich 12/05/07
  154.   # 133 Amazing 15:50  |  Monica S 12/05/07
  155.   Israel had no right ..... 16:10  |  Kacey Mathew 12/05/07
  156.   Ben Alofs you make no sense 16:27  |  Danite 12/05/07
  157.   The Temple Mount Excavations 16:46  |  Yonatan 12/05/07
  158.   #147 an anti zionist defines archeology IN POLITICAL TERMS 16:56  |  paul harris 12/05/07
  159.   #147 Ben Alofs - abusing history for political purposes 16:58  |  Yonatan 12/05/07
  160.   # 144 Kiwifruitcake 16:59  |  ChanahS 12/05/07
  161.   "Who the hell is Benny Zifer?" #7,#150 17:25  |  Sarah 12/05/07
  162.   #143 Say Chanah 17:31  |  ballistic 12/05/07
  163.   #138 Joe to Jack post re DNA 17:34  |  ballistic 12/05/07
  164.   Ben Alofs 17:37  |  Sarah 12/05/07
  165.   Ben Alofs 17:37  |  ballistic 12/05/07
  166.   #158 Say Paul Harris; don`t start spining 17:40  |  ballistic 12/05/07
  167.   # 159 Yonatan - to complete your last sentence ..... 17:42  |  ChanahS 12/05/07
  168.   #159 - addendum to abuse of history for political purposes 17:55  |  Yonatan 12/05/07
  169.   #130 "Speaking about heritage" - Ben 18:08  |  Sarah 12/05/07
  170.   Will Turner 18:32  |  jackie 12/05/07
  171.   Whio gets the vote (kiwiboy) 18:44  |  jackie 12/05/07
  172.   Kiwiboy Last time I checked... 18:49  |  JS 12/05/07
  173.   Fraud 19:02  |  Alex 12/05/07
  174.   Ziffer the Archeologist? 19:04  |  Roberta Seid 12/05/07
  175.   Herod 19:32  |  D.R. Zukerman 12/05/07
  176.   Apologies in advance 19:37  |  D.R. Zukerman 12/05/07
  177.   #156 Danite 1 19:40  |  Ben Alofs 12/05/07
  178.   #169 Sarah 19:57  |  Ben Alofs 12/05/07
  179.   #139 Amir 20:01  |  Boycott 12/05/07
  180.   # 13 Paul Harris RE:THAT B.....D up there on his ivory tower.If 20:44  |  Kath` 12/05/07
  181.   Palestinians are NOT descended from Canaanites 20:49  |  Joe 12/05/07
  182.   To Constantin, RE the Greek name Palestine, PALAISTine 20:53  |  Jake 12/05/07
  183.   Maronite Christians are aboriginal Canaanites 20:55  |  Joe 12/05/07
  184.   DNA proves Arab Muslims DONT descend from Canaanites 21:01  |  Joe 12/05/07
  185.   Well, robbery did not stop at the grave site 21:20  |  El-birawi 12/05/07
  186.   Ben Alofs oy vey with you already! 21:22  |  Danite 12/05/07
  187.   Ben Alofs, constantly referring us to `books` 21:23  |  Jake 12/05/07
  188.   Ben Alofs #2 21:25  |  Danite 12/05/07
  189.   Ben Alofs#3 21:27  |  Danite 12/05/07
  190.   Ben Alofs 21:34  |  Netanel 12/05/07
  191.   it`s called robbery 21:35  |  utag 12/05/07
  192.   It`s called robbery 21:42  |  utagawa 12/05/07
  193.   it`s called robbery 21:49  |  utagawa 12/05/07
  194.   # 150 " who the hell does Benny Ziffer thinks he is ? 21:59  |  Sasson Hirsh 12/05/07
  195.   157- Yonatan . Well put re Ben Alofs 22:03  |  Zardos 12/05/07
  196.   Danite re Finkelstein. 22:09  |  Zardos 12/05/07
  197.   #166 KNICKER ELASIC AND TOTAL AND ABSOLUTE IGNORANCE 22:10  |  paul harris 12/05/07
  198.   Herod 22:14  |  Nosson Tzvi 12/05/07
  199.   You just don`t want justification for Jewish Homeland 22:16  |  Robert Green 12/05/07
  200.   Danite is correct 22:24  |  Hal 12/05/07
  201.   # 180 re # 13 Paul Harris 22:51  |  Emanuel C 12/05/07
  202.   re 185 El Birawy 22:59  |  Magdalene C 12/05/07
  203.   # 185 re " Robbery " !!! 23:10  |  Arthur G 12/05/07
  204.   Ancient Palestine = Gaza Strip only 23:29  |  Hal 12/05/07
  205.   Adrammelech gave it to us 23:57  |  melchizedek 12/05/07
  206.   Remember Moshe Dayan`s robberies? 23:59  |  A Lebanese 12/05/07
  207.   question for Hal #200 00:00  |  nathan 13/05/07
  208.   Izzies Stealing From Palis? 00:02  |  Nancyann Cianci 13/05/07
  209.   Pals Want The Grave of the Jewish King of Judea? Am I Trippin??? 00:16  |  King David 13/05/07
  210.   Ballistic # 166 00:47  |  ChanahS 13/05/07
  211.   Zardos hello 00:55  |  Danite 13/05/07
  212.   Zardos hello 00:55  |  Danite 13/05/07
  213.   #186 Danite 2 00:56  |  Ben Alofs 13/05/07
  214.   Hal "at last" 00:56  |  Danite 13/05/07
  215.   #178 Ben Alofs 00:59  |  Sarah 13/05/07
  216.   was he Jewish ?? 01:02  |  nathan 13/05/07
  217.   To Nathan of Gaza: Did Israelites worship God`s wife? 01:18  |  Hal 13/05/07
  218.   Joe on lapses of History 01:20  |  A Lebanese 13/05/07
  219.   melchizedek 01:31  |  Danite 13/05/07
  220.   Did Israelites worship God`s wife? 01:47  |  Hal 13/05/07
  221.   # 186 Danite continued. 01:51  |  Ben Alofs 13/05/07
  222.   You ask for what you do not give 01:54  |  goyim 13/05/07
  223.   what rights DO we have? 02:00  |  citizen zero 13/05/07
  224.   Herod`s tomb 02:03  |  Dr. Esor Ben-Sorek 13/05/07
  225.   DNA tests from around 2000 could only detect these prehistoric re 02:15  |  Jack 13/05/07
  226.   Joe 02:22  |  Jack 13/05/07
  227.   # 204 Hal. Ancient Palestine-Gaza Srip only.OH YEA??? 02:23  |  Kath` 13/05/07
  228.   # 209 King David.Pals Want The Grave of the Jewish King of Judea? 02:46  |  Kath` 13/05/07
  229.   Big thanks 2 hal 02:46  |  melchizedek 13/05/07
  230.   Herods tomb and the romans 02:49  |  nathan 13/05/07
  231.   DNA 03:20  |  Joe 13/05/07
  232.   # 224 Dr.Essor Ben-Sorek. Herod`s tomb.THIS IS WHAT I SAY... 03:22  |  Kath` 13/05/07
  233.   Herod`s Tomb? 03:57  |  prairdog 13/05/07
  234.   Ben Alofs 04:09  |  Danite 13/05/07
  235.   Hal good point 04:13  |  Danite 13/05/07
  236.   better be now in israels border or border moved 04:14  |  ralph 13/05/07
  237.   Ben Alofs 04:15  |  Danite 13/05/07
  238.   benny be consistent champion spain giving its land back to arabs 04:16  |  ralph 13/05/07
  239.   # 200 Hal 04:22  |  Ben Alofs 13/05/07
  240.   To a Lebanese 04:29  |  Joe 13/05/07
  241.   It happened in occupied territory 04:51  |  noah 13/05/07
  242.   DNA 04:55  |  Joe 13/05/07
  243.   Ben Alofs 04:57  |  Pt 13/05/07
  244.   border better be moved before the barbarians destry it 05:52  |  ralph 13/05/07
  245.   sort of puts a lie to who is the occupier who is the thief 05:53  |  ralph 13/05/07
  246.   And a German should nolt have found Troy... 06:54  |  Fortuna Benmayor 13/05/07
  247.   The Bible is the cultural treasure of an aboriginal people 07:41  |  Hal 13/05/07
  248.   Ralph is right 07:49  |  nathan 13/05/07
  249.   ir david 10:22  |  mark 13/05/07
  250.   Israel not Ziffer decides for Israel 22:00  |  Rafi 13/05/07
  251.   Benny boy 23:25  |  Bob 13/05/07
  252.   Benny, is your boy friend a Palestinian ? 23:35  |  Bob 13/05/07
  253.   Herods tomb excavation 00:06  |  Norman Zelvin 14/05/07
  254.   Norm #253 07:15  |  nathan 14/05/07
  255.   Dino 19:00  |  Ran 14/05/07
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