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A Palestinian wearing symbolic chains during a protest to demand the release of prisoners held by Israel. (AP)
Last update - 19:25 11/04/2007
Hamas: Prisoner deal 'doomed to fail' according to Israeli terms
By Amiram Barkat, Jack Khoury and Amos Harel, Haaretz Correspondents

Hamas said Wednesday that a prisoner swap deal for the release of captured Israel Defense Forces soldier Gilad Shalit was "doomed to fail," if Israel demanded that militants with "blood on their hands" be dropped from the Palestinians' list.

"The Palestinians will not revise the list based on Israeli criteria," Palestinian cabinet spokesman Ghazi Hamad said, though he did add, "If there are issues that [need] more negotiations, then things are not over yet."

According to Hamas, Israel's reaction "proves [it] is not interested in achieving a compromise over the release of prisoners."

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An announcement released by the Prime Minister's Office on Tuesday stated that during a security consultation "disappointment and reservations were expressed over the list of prisoners whose release Hamas is seeking. Israel will continue contacts with Egypt on the issue."

Defense establishment sources said that Hamas' list of prisoners "appears unacceptable" due to the inclusion of senior terrorists convicted of the murder of Israelis.

The statement said Prime Minister Ehud Olmert convened a meeting of senior officials and intelligence commanders Tuesday afternoon to discuss the list, and expressed disappointment and reservations. It also said there has been some progress in negotiations, but the road to completion is still long.

Olmert imposed a blackout on the contents of the discussion itself among the highest ranks of the Defense Ministry. The announcement further stated: "Our hearts are with the Shalit family, which has been steadfast in recent months especially in the face of recent reports on this issue, which certainly do not lessen its continued suffering."

At this point, it appears the sides are close to agreement on the stages of the deal and the number of prisoners - probably 1,400. However, the actual composition of the list is expected to be a key obstacle that could take several more weeks.

In recent days, it has been suggested the cabinet will create a special ministerial committee to prepare the prisoner list, as was done in previous prisoner swaps. However, last night the Prime Minister's Office said that no such committee is on the agenda.

There has been an active discussion of the release of Fatah leader Marwan Bargouti, also on the list, in the defense establishment for years. Several senior officials support his release. However, since his name appears alongside several prominent Hamas terrorists and PFLP leader Ahmed Saadat, accused of involvement in the assassination of Rehavam Zeevi, his release seems unlikely.

Israel also faces difficulties in maneuvering between Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas and Hamas. Olmert has said several times in the past that he would support gestures, including a prisoner release, to bolster Abbas' standing. But if Israel releases many Fatah militants at the expense of Hamas men, Hamas - whose members are holding Shalit - could scuttle the deal.

Despite these reservations, the fact that a list was submitted is considered progress in the talks, which had been deadlocked. In Tuesday's discussion, the concept of modifying the criteria for release to include a limited number of prisoners with "blood on their hands", was also raised.

Hamas prisoner list contains 17 Israeli Arabs
The prisoner list that Hamas has sent to Israel as part of talks for the release of kidnapped soldier Gilad Shalit includes 17 men and women security prisoners who are Israeli citizens.

Israeli Arabs involved in the talks on behalf of security prisoners and their families told Haaretz that the list includes six convicted women security prisoners who are Israeli citizens, and two others in custody until the end of proceedings against them, which are still underway.

Among the women prisoners on the list are Lina Jarbuni, 32, from Arabeh, sentenced to a 17-year prison term in 2004 for aiding an Islamic Jihad cell from Jenin to carry out attacks on Israel. Also on the list is Varda Bakrawi, also from Arabeh, who was sentenced to nine years, and Tajrid Said, 25, from Sakhnin, who is sentenced to six years for aiding the Tanzim and conspiracy to commit terror attacks. It also includes Suad Naif Abu Hmad, 27, from Nazareth, who was sentenced to five years for contact with a foreign agent and planning a suicide bombing.

The two prisoners still awaiting sentencing are Warud Sasem, from Tira, accused of contact with activists from the military wing of Fatah, and Faiza Fudi from Acre, accused of contact with Islamic Jihad operatives. Both have been in prison for a few months.

All six were arrested for crimes carried out after the outbreak of the second intifada in 2000.

Also on the list are prisoners who received life sentences before the Oslo Accords, most of whom have already served 20 years or more. Among the most veteran are Sami Yunis, 77, from Arara, and Safi Mansur, 72, from Tira.

The Association for the Prisoner says the issue is very sensitive and they would would not like to see the names published.

"The families want to see all the prisoners out of jail, and therefore the fact that not all of them are on the list is a cause of discomfort," said Munir Mansur, a leading activist. According to Mansur, the association had no influence on the makeup of the final list. "The kidnappers set the list according to their criteria."

Mansur said the prisoners and their families were tense, but that expectations should not be raised. "It is known that Israel has veto power over the names of its citizens who are prisoners. This is after all a list of demands by the Palestinians and there's no certainty Israel will agree to it. We hope the Palestinians will stick to the demands and the criteria that were decided," Mansur said.

Sana Duka, from Baka al-Garbiyeh, is the wife of a security prisoner sentenced to life in 1985 and is serving his sentence in the Sharon Prison. "From our point of view this is the only window of hope, and if the prisoners are not released, especially the veteran ones who are serving more than 20 years, it will be no less than a crime," she told Haaretz. "These are prisoners who were sentenced before Oslo, and must not be abandoned."

Doka's husband was sentenced for belonging to a cell of the Popular Front and was an accomplice in the murder of policeman Moshe Tamam.

Sources at the Association for the Prisoner do not deny that they have appealed through the media to Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah to include Israeli security prisoners in the list of those whose release is being demanded in exchange for information about kidnapped soldiers Eldad Regev and Ehud Goldwasser.

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  1.   "dsappointed" "unacceptable" just cause the list include 05:39  |  Joseph E . 11/04/07
  2.   who said that crime doesn`t pay is lying 05:47  |  Joseph E . 11/04/07
  3.   I find it so interesting that a "government", that of the PA,... 06:12  |  Nadav 11/04/07
  4.   Israeli blood is worth as much as Pals this is a bad deal 06:43  |  Shepherd 11/04/07
  5.   Let Freedom Ring 08:38  |  Cham de Frey 11/04/07
  6.   Israeli citizens? 08:41  |  Hastaroth 11/04/07
  7.   Israel rejects Hamas List 08:47  |  Ros 11/04/07
  8.   Hamas, a used car salesman 09:06  |  Marwan مروان خوري 11/04/07
  9.   A shred of sanity 09:06  |  Julie 11/04/07
  10.   Nadav # 3 - It is time as you write, to stop supplying 09:08  |  Carmela 11/04/07
  11.   I agree with Ros #7. Death penality for convicted terrorists 09:10  |  Marwan مروان خوري 11/04/07
  12.   Human Value 09:16  |  An Arab Neighbor 11/04/07
  13.   The Italian@ 5 09:18  |  Nerys 11/04/07
  14.   To Nadav from J`lem #3 09:22  |  An Arab Neighbor 11/04/07
  15.   Shalit Becomes a Pickle, Courtesy Stubborn Israel 09:26  |  Hani 11/04/07
  16.   It should be Shalit for all 9,000, or no deal ! 09:38  |  The Palestinian 11/04/07
  17.   The Arabs can`t refuse release of more than a thousand prisoners 09:46  |  Uzi 11/04/07
  18.   1 for 1,400 10:38  |  Diane 11/04/07
  19.   Rewarding Terror = Destroying Moderates, Hope 10:46  |  British Leftie 11/04/07
  20.   Poor Probagandists ! Look what you still talk 10:47  |  Atilla Karagozoglu 11/04/07
  21.   Israeli citizens? #6 10:48  |  Peter Mall 11/04/07
  22.   #12 Arab neighbour 11:02  |  Itsik 11/04/07
  23.   RE: #16 11:02  |  Joey 11/04/07
  24.   #12 Arab neighbour 11:05  |  Itsik 11/04/07
  25.   poor haaretz :) publish my posts 11:06  |  Atilla Karagozoglu 11/04/07
  26.   #14 arab neighbour 11:09  |  Itsik from Middx 11/04/07
  27.   #15 Hani THE LEBANESE 11:12  |  Itsik 11/04/07
  28.   To Palesitinian 11:17  |  Dangor 11/04/07
  29.   #21 Peter Mall 11:18  |  Itsik 11/04/07
  30.   RELEASE, RELEASE, RELEASE: PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE! 11:22  |  Citizen 11/04/07
  31.   New pictures every year??? 11:23  |  Sara 11/04/07
  32.   Suggestion for Olmert 11:24  |  Dangor 11/04/07
  33.   releasing 1400 will encourage further kidnappings 11:25  |  Mark 11/04/07
  34.   @Pal, #16: "or no deal!" 11:29  |  Spoon 11/04/07
  35.   ARAB NEIGHBOUR 11:57  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 11/04/07
  36.   FUNNY ISRAELIS 12:12  |  indrajaya 11/04/07
  37.   #16 Hani 12:24  |  * BEN JABO 11/04/07
  38.   #16 Palestinian - You said it all NO DEAL 12:26  |  * BEN JABO 11/04/07
  39.   Palestinian blood worth less than Israeli blood 12:29  |  Hanoman 11/04/07
  40.   Prisoner Swap 12:39  |  Miri 11/04/07
  41.   How dare the PMO reject the Prisoner list 12:46  |  Dutch 11/04/07
  42.   For the greater good 12:50  |  Jared (Yered Shmuel) 11/04/07
  43.   36INDRAJAYA,there`s a FAKE SARA(31) going around 12:54  |  sara 11/04/07
  44.   19BRITISH LEFTIE,sounds reasonable,ostensibly,but 13:00  |  lakshmi 11/04/07
  45.   1 prisoner for 1 prisoner 13:11  |  Sara 11/04/07
  46.   #43 Great, two geniuses Sara & Indrajaya 13:11  |  * BEN JABO 11/04/07
  47.   I WAS HOPING THAT THEY WOULD ASK 13:11  |  Robert 11/04/07
  48.   Re: #18 13:14  |  Zooloo 11/04/07
  49.   What a wonderful opportunity to regurgitate 13:15  |  Mary 11/04/07
  50.   PRISONER SWAP WITH A TERROR GROUP LIVING IN ISRAELS BORDERS???? 13:17  |  jim 11/04/07
  51.   RE: How dare the PMO reject the Prisoner list 13:19  |  Proud Israeli 11/04/07
  52.   #16 the palestinian 13:30  |  Michael Yamin 11/04/07
  53.   #44 13:36  |  British Leftie 11/04/07
  54.   #41 Dutch Dorris 13:56  |  Itsik 11/04/07
  55.   19 BRITISH LEFTIE, as a leftie,you must favour he release of 13:58  |  vijaya 11/04/07
  56.   Hani (Post 15) 13:59  |  Johnny Weintraub 11/04/07
  57.   53 BRITISH LEFTIE,time will tell 14:18  |  lakshmi 11/04/07
  58.   AMIRA HASS, at least one sane voice,and a just one 14:19  |  vijaya 11/04/07
  59.   A FAIR PRISONER SWAP 14:24  |  Johannes FRANZEN 11/04/07
  60.   The Palestinians should change their demands !! 14:25  |  Swiss (Dino) 11/04/07
  61.   # 35 Took a couple of hundred Americans 14:51  |  Lynn 11/04/07
  62.   The government is obligated to make every effort 14:56  |  Tzfonit 11/04/07
  63.   55&58 Vijaya 14:58  |  British Leftie 11/04/07
  64.   #16 Mandela 15:03  |  Fussion 11/04/07
  65.   # 50 jim never have I heard 15:03  |  Lynn 11/04/07
  66.   #41 doris gets it wrong againTHE JEWISH STATE DATES FROM 1920 15:04  |  paul harris 11/04/07
  67.   Swiss 15:08  |  Lynn 11/04/07
  68.   I support Ros`s (#7) suggestion. Death penalty for terrorists... 15:14  |  Vittorio 11/04/07
  69.   For Fake Sara, on the dreadful virgin shortage# 31 15:15  |  Clickfool 11/04/07
  70.   # 12 on Human Value 15:27  |  Lynn 11/04/07
  71.   I guess they`ll reject Israel`s list now 15:29  |  Tim 11/04/07
  72.   Prisoners can always be released at end of hostilities 15:35  |  Paul Freedman 11/04/07
  73.   # 35 Cipora J.K ..FREE ISRAEL FROM THESE TERRORISTS.. 15:36  |  Kath` 11/04/07
  74.   #56 Weintraub: "Stupid" written on my forehead? 15:38  |  Hani 11/04/07
  75.   HAARETZ:Haim atem eimam roim ke Atilla Karagozoglu MAMASH MESHUGA 15:39  |  Vittorio 11/04/07
  76.   # 31 Sara 15:40  |  Lynn 11/04/07
  77.   Palestinians--keep Shalit without the ransom notes 15:41  |  Paul Freedman 11/04/07
  78.   Durch-Doris-Cadigan, the wisest one: You tell - We do 15:42  |  People of the World 11/04/07
  79.   For Mark, on encouraging further kidnappings # 33 15:49  |  Clickfool 11/04/07
  80.   # 41 to Flying Dutch from Wandering Jew 15:51  |  17 11/04/07
  81.   Hamas itself changed the rules of engagement 15:53  |  Wendy 11/04/07
  82.   #41 DutchDoosie ...... On a point of order..... 15:53  |  Joe Moer 11/04/07
  83.   I Can`t Understand Doris AKA Dutch (Post 41) 15:57  |  Johnny Weintraub 11/04/07
  84.   #43 not a fake sara........ A real Sara who posts sensibly 15:57  |  Ari ben Yisrael 11/04/07
  85.   Whoever posted #59 Why remind us of fraNAZI 16:00  |  Ari ben Yisrael 11/04/07
  86.   #59 FRANZIE IS BACK AND SHOCK HORROR I AGREE WITH HIM 16:04  |  paul harris 11/04/07
  87.   DONT WORRY DEAR DUTCH CADIGAN WE WILL ALLCOME STAY IN NETTICK!!!! 16:05  |  alonitzafoni 11/04/07
  88.   #75 Vittorio 16:06  |  Itsik 11/04/07
  89.   Shalit is a casualty of war. Any exchange sends wrong message 16:14  |  Jason 11/04/07
  90.   # 43 Sara may be her name also 16:14  |  Lynn 11/04/07
  91.   DUTCH CADIGRUNT IS MUHAMMAD AL SWINES SOULMATE 16:15  |  alonitzafoni 11/04/07
  92.   # 71 tim of Toronto 16:19  |  Lynn 11/04/07
  93.   41#Between dutch and Marilyn. 16:23  |  Alon Fisher 11/04/07
  94.   According to reality: Hamas `doomed to fail`! 16:24  |  Citizen 11/04/07
  95.   BRITISH LEFTIE ,since Hamas came to power in 2006 16:28  |  vijaya 11/04/07
  96.   Good Decision 16:30  |  GZLives 11/04/07
  97.   JONNY WEINTRAUB 83#I CANT UNDERSTAND HER EITHER 16:35  |  alonitzafoni 11/04/07
  98.   #43 Fake sara 16:36  |  17 11/04/07
  99.   this is not a deal. 16:37  |  Haim 11/04/07
  100.   It`s good that Israel is rejecting this deal... 16:39  |  David 11/04/07
  101.   NICE ONE FRANZEN BRAVO!!!! 16:41  |  alonitzafoni 11/04/07
  102.   To DUTCH No. 41 16:41  |  Doris Cadigan 11/04/07
  103.   #71,,,Lynn..You mean Israeli soldiers 16:42  |  Tim 11/04/07
  104.   Tim: Your Standard Bull Holds No Value 17:01  |  Tex 11/04/07
  105.   The list 17:01  |  Rustam 11/04/07
  106.   Reading These Posts 17:08  |  Tex 11/04/07
  107.   #85 don`t be stupid PAUL HARRIS that`s not a fraNAZI! 17:25  |  Ari ben Yisrael 11/04/07
  108.   vijaya # 95 Israel Has Responded 17:33  |  Jeff Northridge 11/04/07
  109.   #41Alonitzafoni that`s NOT fraNAZI as we called IT 17:38  |  Ari ben Yisrael 11/04/07
  110.   Just get him back to family 17:38  |  Stranger 11/04/07
  111.   #59 Johaness FRANZEN.A FAIR PRISONER SWAP... 17:39  |  Kath` 11/04/07
  112.   Palestinian addiction to PR 17:46  |  ScotGuy 11/04/07
  113.   Kath you must be joking THAT was NOT fraNAZI 17:51  |  Ari ben Yisrael 11/04/07
  114.   tosefta on hamas 17:59  |  yossi 11/04/07
  115.   # 49 Mary 18:01  |  ChanahS 11/04/07
  116.   tosefta is big on human rights and quotes from the 18:03  |  yossi 11/04/07
  117.   # 60 Dino 18:04  |  ChanahS 11/04/07
  118.   Ari Ben Yisrael 18:07  |  Nerys 11/04/07
  119.   # 113 Ari ben Yisrael. JUST LET IT GO.AND READ ME... 18:09  |  Kath` 11/04/07
  120.   tosefta and dana get it together 18:09  |  yossi 11/04/07
  121.   Insanity? 18:12  |  Max 11/04/07
  122.   Yossi 18:15  |  Nerys 11/04/07
  123.   Irrefutable proof Hamas PA`s Mecca commitments a fraud 18:18  |  Dr. L. Brnd 11/04/07
  124.   # 45 Sarah (THE REAL JEWISH ONE) CORRECT DEAR 18:20  |  Kath` 11/04/07
  125.   I thought Hamas didn`t know the whereabouts 18:30  |  Lynn 11/04/07
  126.   # 103 NO TIMMY 18:33  |  Lynn 11/04/07
  127.   #3 Nadav suggests war crimes. 18:37  |  Labhras 11/04/07
  128.   hamas 18:44  |  Steven Rosenfeld 11/04/07
  129.   For #118 Nerys 18:50  |  Ari ben Yisrael 11/04/07
  130.   it is almost 51 years since roi rothberg was killed at the gates 18:52  |  flashman 11/04/07
  131.   108 JEFF NORTHRIDGE.your 3 points 19:09  |  vijaya 11/04/07
  132.   Yossi/Flushman is of the lesser "ron" variety, I (Mark Lincoln) 19:14  |  Tosefta 11/04/07
  133.   FREE SHALIT 19:17  |  Ralph 11/04/07
  134.   Reasonable criteria for release 19:18  |  Tosefta 11/04/07
  135.   Thank you #41 Dutch 19:20  |  dovvod 11/04/07
  136.   Shalit kidnapped for Israeli breach of the cease fire 19:22  |  Tosefta 11/04/07
  137.   My apoologies to all Israeli and Lest Timor citizens 19:27  |  Indrajaya 11/04/07
  138.   Labhras 19:32  |  Nerys 11/04/07
  139.   Jeff Northridge`s reading comprehension(#108 re Vijaya) 19:39  |  Tosefta 11/04/07
  140.   moshe dayan concluded his beautiful eulogy 19:41  |  flashman 11/04/07
  141.   it seems awful to use the words dayan wrote for rothberg 19:44  |  flashman 11/04/07
  142.   Labhras, you don`t even recognize my right as a Jew to exist, ... 19:50  |  Nadav 11/04/07
  143.   Israel`s state rewarding terror 19:57  |  Roland 11/04/07
  144.   Hamas Terrorists Must Know 19:57  |  Me 11/04/07
  145.   Gettingb Shalit back 19:58  |  Gilbert 11/04/07
  146.   To Clickfool re 79 20:04  |  Lee 11/04/07
  147.   Dino #60 20:05  |  S 11/04/07
  148.   Ari Ben Yisrael 20:08  |  Nerys 11/04/07
  149.   Dutch/Doris - People should live 20:15  |  Gil 11/04/07
  150.   To Labhras re 127 Israel didn`t "steal" 20:16  |  Lee 11/04/07
  151.   127 LABHRAS,what more can we say ? 20:17  |  sara 11/04/07
  152.   To Clickfool re "obsessive Zionists" 20:20  |  Lee 11/04/07
  153.   Dr L.Brnd, another "Shouter Not A Shooter for Israel" #123 20:22  |  Clickfool 11/04/07
  154.   Prisoner Deal 20:26  |  Lenny 11/04/07
  155.   Thanks Indrajaya 132 20:28  |  Lee 11/04/07
  156.   Jeff Northridge #108 - hopefully you are not a lawyer 20:29  |  dana 11/04/07
  157.   To Arab Neighbor 20:29  |  DS 11/04/07
  158.   Reasonable criteria for release - 2nd try 20:32  |  Tosefta 11/04/07
  159.   # 131 Tosefta,JUST LOOK AT YOUR SELF.APRIL 9TH,NOW APRIL 11TH... 20:32  |  Kath` 11/04/07
  160.   Yossi/Flushman is of the lesser "ron" variety, I (Mark Lincoln) 20:33  |  Tosefta 11/04/07
  161.   To Tosefta re 134 20:36  |  Lee 11/04/07
  162.   Dutch #41 20:43  |  DS 11/04/07
  163.   For Lee # 142 20:54  |  Clickfool 11/04/07
  164.   Tosefta 21:05  |  judah 11/04/07
  165.   16 palestinian 21:08  |  judah 11/04/07
  166.   tosefta "shalit was kidnapped for breach of the ceasefire" 21:12  |  yossi 11/04/07
  167.   # 117 Chanah S (3rd try !!!) mod.version 21:14  |  Swiss (Dino) 11/04/07
  168.   tosefta knows smahadana (not to be confused with smadar) 21:15  |  yossi 11/04/07
  169.   Ari B.Y 21:15  |  Nerys 11/04/07
  170.   Tosefta # 135 That`s Not What It Says At All 21:16  |  Jeff Northridge 11/04/07
  171.   tosefta keeps score of palestinians killed 21:18  |  yossi 11/04/07
  172.   tosefta "hizballah carried out its solidarity kidnapping" 21:24  |  yossi 11/04/07
  173.   # 143 S 21:25  |  Swiss (Dino) 11/04/07
  174.   Israel should release the prisoners 21:25  |  john 11/04/07
  175.   Tzfoninit #62 21:26  |  Bracha Kahba 11/04/07
  176.   On Moshe Dayan`s writing talent # 136 21:28  |  Clickfool 11/04/07
  177.   Tosefta#132 Shalit seizure planned well before 6/8, not "revenge" 21:28  |  Dr. L. Brnd 11/04/07
  178.   Nadav (3) is right 21:37  |  Briton 11/04/07
  179.   freedom fighters my ass! 21:37  |  Jay 11/04/07
  180.   #134 Nerys Re Nadav,s Morals 21:41  |  Labhras 11/04/07
  181.   #58 vijaya 21:42  |  * BEN JABO 11/04/07
  182.   #59 Johannes FRANZEN 21:44  |  * BEN JABO 11/04/07
  183.   To all the name callers ..... 21:47  |  Dutch 11/04/07
  184.   Releasing terrorists 21:48  |  Nechama 11/04/07
  185.   #50 Jim - Pa. 21:50  |  * BEN JABO 11/04/07
  186.   No question doomed, Hamas style. P1 21:51  |  TonyL 11/04/07
  187.   It all comes back to a basic responsibility 21:51  |  Jay 11/04/07
  188.   39...hanoman 21:56  |  ravi 11/04/07
  189.   No question doomed, Hamas style. P2 21:58  |  TonyL 11/04/07
  190.   Tosefta # 132 What Ceasefire? 22:01  |  Jeff Northridge 11/04/07
  191.   the best list.. 22:03  |  ravi 11/04/07
  192.   re dayan`s eulogy on roi rothberg 22:06  |  flashman 11/04/07
  193.   Cease fire and violation (Dr. Brnd #151) 22:13  |  Tosefta 11/04/07
  194.   Dr. L. Brnd #151 22:22  |  TonyL 11/04/07
  195.   #107 I KNOW BUT IT WAS TOO GOOD TO MISS 22:27  |  paul harris 11/04/07
  196.   #147, Dino the neutral 22:30  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 11/04/07
  197.   Labhras quick quick 22:33  |  Danite 11/04/07
  198.   Tosefta the Hamas aplogist 22:37  |  Danite 11/04/07
  199.   Reasonable criteria for release 22:38  |  Tosefta 11/04/07
  200.   Flushman is of the lesser "ron" variety, I (Mark Lincoln) 22:39  |  Tosefta 11/04/07
  201.   THANKS, Dr. Brnd, for slapping down foolish Tosefta 22:39  |  Theodor 11/04/07
  202.   Simplify the exchange negotiations 22:41  |  * BEN JABO 11/04/07
  203.   dana 22:42  |  Danite 11/04/07
  204.   to TonyL your laughable 22:47  |  Jay 11/04/07
  205.   Tosefta the fool 22:54  |  jay 11/04/07
  206.   Tosefta the fool part 2 23:00  |  jay 11/04/07
  207.   Apologist Danite the comprehension-challenged 23:04  |  Tosefta 11/04/07
  208.   Danite the nerd oops 3rd 23:07  |  Labhras 11/04/07
  209.   # 117 Chanah S 23:07  |  Swiss (Dino) 11/04/07
  210.   # 164 Cipora Julianna Kohn 23:08  |  Swiss (Dino) 11/04/07
  211.   #162 DORIS I HAVE NEVER ACCEPTED THAT YOU HAVE ANY RIGHT 23:09  |  paul harris 11/04/07
  212.   Palestine doomed before birth 23:10  |  Joe Sittizen 11/04/07
  213.   Ravi # 156 23:10  |  ChanahS 11/04/07
  214.   A call for help (re Jeff Northridge #149) 23:14  |  Tosefta 11/04/07
  215.   TOSEFTA,about the missing vowel in Brnd. . . 23:14  |  martha 11/04/07
  216.   #132, Tosefta 23:15  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 11/04/07
  217.   Nerys your #148 23:19  |  Ari ben Yisrael 11/04/07
  218.   what happened to fair trade? 23:25  |  michael 11/04/07
  219.   #91 Alonitzafoni , Re: Psych treatment 23:26  |  Dutch 11/04/07
  220.   Prisoner deal 23:26  |  daniel 11/04/07
  221.   Jay #183 23:27  |  TonyL 11/04/07
  222.   RAVI,there`s my post in Amira Hass`s Prisoners or Criminals,impor 23:31  |  lakshmi 11/04/07
  223.   Tosefta its funny 23:31  |  Danite 11/04/07
  224.   Cease fire violation FACT (Jeff Northridge #169) 23:36  |  Tosefta 11/04/07
  225.   Labhras Please enough!! 23:36  |  Danite 11/04/07
  226.   Prisoners deal 23:36  |  Angelo Tito Anselmi 11/04/07
  227.   TOSEFTA,JN(149) is mistaken about Geneva 6 23:43  |  lakshmi 11/04/07
  228.   #54 Itsik, No apology necessary 23:44  |  Dutch 11/04/07
  229.   Jay #183 23:44  |  TonyL 11/04/07
  230.   Typical Tosefta 23:45  |  Danite 11/04/07
  231.   #185, Tosefta 23:46  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 11/04/07
  232.   #194 Bird from outer space 23:48  |  Labhras 11/04/07
  233.   #185 Tosefta re danite 00:04  |  Labhras 12/04/07
  234.   Tosefta # 195 I Reject Your Implications And Your Conclusion 00:28  |  Jeff Northridge 12/04/07
  235.   #41 Dutch 00:34  |  G 12/04/07
  236.   Palestinian "Logic" 00:36  |  Matthew 12/04/07
  237.   # 192 Dino 00:41  |  ChanahS 12/04/07
  238.   Tosefta - Danite - #190 00:46  |  Red Dog 12/04/07
  239.   SHALIT FOR 9000 01:07  |  Nad 12/04/07
  240.   #145 DS, Stolen land 01:13  |  Dutch 12/04/07
  241.   *BEN JABO # 185 Yes, Up To A Point 01:15  |  Jeff Northridge 12/04/07
  242.   to palestinian,you can rot in hell and your heros can rot in jail 01:25  |  terrornator 12/04/07
  243.   169 TONY L,not quite sure of what you are saying,do clarify 01:33  |  mildred 12/04/07
  244.   Jay #183 01:34  |  TonyL 12/04/07
  245.   #146 Clickfool re Lee 01:39  |  James Brite 12/04/07
  246.   162 JAY, YOUR POST ABOUT INDIAN FREEDOM STRUGGLE etc,interesting, 01:46  |  lakshmi 12/04/07
  247.   147 LION OF JUDAH,your empty roar,have you forgotten the drubbing 01:56  |  alan 12/04/07
  248.   An Interesting and Problematic Dilemma 02:01  |  Mark of Lewiston 12/04/07
  249.   BS 02:02  |  John Q. 12/04/07
  250.   Israeli Weakness Encourages More Terror 02:05  |  Tod Zuckerman 12/04/07
  251.   Cipora Julianna Kohn # 205 Tosefta`s Arrogance 02:06  |  Jeff Northridge 12/04/07
  252.   Dutch re: Stolen Land 02:15  |  TonyL 12/04/07
  253.   208 DUTCH,they were never there continuously even in ancient time 02:16  |  sara 12/04/07
  254.   #207 Nad has `nads! 02:27  |  whomever 12/04/07
  255.   Nad # 207 Illegimate? 02:27  |  Jeff Northridge 12/04/07
  256.   #5 02:29  |  Moshe 12/04/07
  257.   So long as Olmert is PM 02:44  |  Mark Lincoln 12/04/07
  258.   #15 02:44  |  Moshe 12/04/07
  259.   #195 Sittizen 02:50  |  Labhras 12/04/07
  260.   104 Tex....the number is 814 02:54  |  Tim 12/04/07
  261.   #12 02:57  |  Moshe 12/04/07
  262.   alan 217 03:03  |  judah 12/04/07
  263.   #176 Tosefta - Tunneling into Israel is a peacetime "precaution"? 03:04  |  Dr. L. Brnd 12/04/07
  264.   Why did Iran release U.S. hostages as soon as Reagan was elected 03:10  |  Chaim 12/04/07
  265.   222JEFF NORTHBRIDGE.I find TOSEFTA`s arguments quite persuasive 03:13  |  mildred 12/04/07
  266.   Tosefta # 190 You Confuse People 03:13  |  Jeff Northridge 12/04/07
  267.   sara, 237 so what is the worry 03:26  |  just wondering 12/04/07
  268.   Red Dog Thank You 03:26  |  Danite 12/04/07
  269.   Shoot and release 03:28  |  Ian Robertson 12/04/07
  270.   Jeff Northridge #108 - hopefully you`re not a lawyer 03:30  |  dana 12/04/07
  271.   Jeff Northridge and Toseftas agenda 03:30  |  Danite 12/04/07
  272.   266 JEFF NORTHBRIDGE,your are mistaken about refugees 03:42  |  sara 12/04/07
  273.   No list will ever be acceptable 03:42  |  Efox 12/04/07
  274.   Mildred #243 Part1 03:45  |  TonyL 12/04/07
  275.   re: An Arab Neighbor 03:47  |  Efox 12/04/07
  276.   The deconstruction of Jeff Northridge #108 - Part 2 03:52  |  dana 12/04/07
  277.   DUTCH, many third world countries are in agreement with what you 03:55  |  lakshmi 12/04/07
  278.   Mildred #243 Part2 03:55  |  TonyL 12/04/07
  279.   Antisemitism (Red Dog #238) 04:00  |  Tosefta 12/04/07
  280.   Law and Reality (Bird from Outerspace #194) - 2nd try 04:03  |  Tosefta 12/04/07
  281.   #260 Intifada, announced by Arafat 04:03  |  Lynn 12/04/07
  282.   Part III Jeff Northridge #108 returns his homework 04:08  |  dana 12/04/07
  283.   mildred # 265 That`s Fine With Me 04:09  |  Jeff Northridge 12/04/07
  284.   To Chaim 04:16  |  Reality intrudes 12/04/07
  285.   Tunneling as preparation (Dr. Brnd #263) 04:17  |  Tosefta 12/04/07
  286.   What a bunch of horse.sh...it 04:24  |  Avrum 12/04/07
  287.   #265 Mildred re Tosefta vs Jeffie #222 04:24  |  dana 12/04/07
  288.   Mark of Lewiston #248 04:25  |  TonyL 12/04/07
  289.   #251, Jeff Northridge 04:27  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 12/04/07
  290.   Mark Lincoln #257 04:35  |  TonyL 12/04/07
  291.   Dutch: talk to Pim Fortuyn, Theo Van Gogh and Ayaan Hirsi Ali 04:39  |  Peter Burman 12/04/07
  292.   You, Labhras, have come here to harass the Jews and to spew hate 04:41  |  Avihu 12/04/07
  293.   sara # 272 Let Me Unconfuse You 04:47  |  Jeff Northridge 12/04/07
  294.   #234 Jeff Northridge on reading 04:47  |  Tosefta 12/04/07
  295.   270 DANA,excellent reply 05:02  |  mildred 12/04/07
  296.   #279, Tosefta: anti-Semitism 05:09  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 12/04/07
  297.   dana # 270 & 276 Your Argument Doesn`t Make Sense 05:18  |  Jeff Northridge 12/04/07
  298.   Nice doesn`t pay 05:19  |  marcr 12/04/07
  299.   Thanks for trying to help Jeff (Lakshmi, Mildred, Dana, Sara) 05:22  |  Tosefta 12/04/07
  300.   Tosefta: what are u ON? 05:31  |  Star of David 12/04/07
  301.   #280, Tosefta: war and the Red Cross 05:34  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 12/04/07
  302.   Tosefta - that`s not good enough 05:41  |  Red Dog 12/04/07
  303.   #253 05:45  |  Moshe 12/04/07
  304.   #282 Dana`s instruction on occupation 05:54  |  Tosefta 12/04/07
  305.   Who is Peter Dale? (Bird from Outerspace #296) 06:09  |  Tosefta 12/04/07
  306.   dana I am glad you are not in govt 06:19  |  danite 12/04/07
  307.   Toseftas documentation 06:22  |  Danite 12/04/07
  308.   dana 06:26  |  Danite 12/04/07
  309.   Best I can do for you tonight (Red Dog #302) 06:31  |  Tosefta 12/04/07
  310.   Reality vs. Words (Bird from Outerspace #301) 06:42  |  Tosefta 12/04/07
  311.   dear danite - what makes you think I`m not/ 06:48  |  dana 12/04/07
  312.   Red Dog Right on!! 06:53  |  Danite 12/04/07
  313.   Tosefta wrong 06:56  |  Danite 12/04/07
  314.   #304 Tosefta - darn - nothing gets by you, does it? 07:00  |  dana 12/04/07
  315.   dana 07:03  |  Danite 12/04/07
  316.   Jeff Northridge - isn`t it early/ 07:04  |  dana 12/04/07
  317.   #04, Tosefta 07:05  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 12/04/07
  318.   dana 07:07  |  Danite 12/04/07
  319.   Oy vey, I need a kosher wine cooler 07:32  |  Tosefta 12/04/07
  320.   Danite 07:40  |  dana 12/04/07
  321.   Tosefta wrong again 07:49  |  danite 12/04/07
  322.   #316 Dana; miscastings 07:52  |  Tosefta 12/04/07
  323.   # 137, FAKE INDRAJAYA 07:53  |  indrajaya 12/04/07
  324.   re: Tosefta, anti-semitism 07:59  |  RedDog 12/04/07
  325.   Dana #316 08:03  |  TonyL 12/04/07
  326.   To Dutch #183 - The holy Green Line 08:09  |  Daniel 12/04/07
  327.   Tosefta 08:09  |  S 12/04/07
  328.   NATIONALS REWARDS ARE ALREADY IN THE HEART. 08:10  |  arab 12/04/07
  329.   Cipora #289 08:29  |  S 12/04/07
  330.   288 TonyL 08:34  |  Mark of Lewiston 12/04/07
  331.   3277 lackey gets it wrong allTHE WAY 08:35  |  paul harris 12/04/07
  332.   #137, FAKE INDRAJAYA 08:42  |  indrajaya 12/04/07
  333.   # 237 Chanah S 08:50  |  Swiss (Dino) 12/04/07
  334.   253#SAD SARA STATES HER STUPIDITY 08:55  |  alonitzafoni 12/04/07
  335.   #270 DANA NEEDS TO LEARN ENGLISH 09:08  |  paul harris 12/04/07
  336.   For James Brite # 245, on coming back into the circle 09:16  |  Clickfool 12/04/07
  337.   For Clickfool #336 and the circle of destiny 09:51  |  James Brite 12/04/07
  338.   PH and DANA on need to learn english#270and335 10:12  |  Peter Mall 12/04/07
  339.   Mark of Lewiston #330 10:13  |  TonyL 12/04/07
  340.   Occupation 10:42  |  Ahmad 12/04/07
  341.   Labhras 10:55  |  Nerys 12/04/07
  342.   James Brite and England 11:21  |  Peter Mall 12/04/07
  343.   Ahmad 13:32  |  Nerys 12/04/07
  344.   Ahmad one more thing 14:00  |  Nerys 12/04/07
  345.   What abt coming back to the topic? 16:26  |  J.M.Jordan 12/04/07
  346.   #321Dumbite, the Cooler head 18:20  |  Tosefta 12/04/07
  347.   #324 Red Dog on Antisemitism 18:26  |  Tosefta 12/04/07
  348.   Statistics S#327 18:42  |  Tosefta 12/04/07
  349.   334 ALONITZAFONI,you hung around,for sure 19:15  |  sara 12/04/07
  350.   20000? 20:10  |  jackiekc 12/04/07
  351.   DANA,JEFFIE fancies himself a Mathematician, 21:06  |  sara 12/04/07
  352.   TonyL #325 - Jeff`s credentials are not the issue 23:14  |  dana 12/04/07
  353.   264 CHAIM,idiot though Olmert is,not lunatic as you 00:06  |  alan 13/04/07
  354.   Jeff Northridge # 297 - should be a piece of cake for you 00:53  |  dana 13/04/07
  355.   Jeff Northridge - And back to the point, finally 01:05  |  dana 13/04/07
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