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The forgiveness game
By Yoel Marcus

Tony Blair's warning of "further measures" if the kidnapped British seamen were not released immediately reminds me of the Jewish joke about Hershele Ostropoler, who walked into a restaurant and demanded free food. Otherwise, he threatened, he'd do what his father did. The proprietors, quaking in their boots, quickly set the food before him. After the danger passed, they asked him what his father did. Hershele's reply: He went to bed hungry.

The moral of the story is that even the biggest, strongest superpowers have no answer for the primitive form of warfare known as kidnapping that Islamic bullies have added to the menu in their fight against Western civilization. With our experience of brutal kidnappings, who knows better than we how problematic they can be, and how high a price one is forced to pay to bring hostages home, alive or in a box.

In this cruel game, they are on top. The kidnapping of Ehud Goldwasser and Eldad Regev dragged us into a war that ruined our reputation, and we still have no idea whether they are alive and where they are. Not to mention Gilad Shalit, who has been held hostage under our noses for nine months without a letter or a single sign of life.

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In this game of horror, the kidnappers have the upper hand, because they know that in the civilization they are out to destroy, human life is valued above all. How did Yitzhak Rabin put it when he agreed to the Jibril Rajoub prisoner exchange deal? "I couldn't take the pressure of the mothers descending on my home and office."

A country with values is at a disadvantage when it comes to kidnapping. Yes, Blair raised his voice and threatened to take firmer action if a solution wasn't found right away. So he threatened. So what? The Iranians countered that the use of force would only complicate matters.

The fact that an angry mob stormed the British Embassy in Tehran, lobbing stones and smoke bombs, hinted that using force might endanger the lives of the navy men and diplomats. Theoretically, Britain could respond in a variety of ways, but in the case of hostages held by people who will stop at nothing, employing force would have been the devil's doing for sure.

The Iranian leadership chose to adopt the stance of the British foreign minister and resolve the problem in quiet negotiations. They decided not to wrangle with Britain over such a trivial affair while embroiled in a major clash over their nuclear program.

Unlike the kidnappings carried out by Hezbollah and terror organizations in Israel, Iran has treated the British naval crew reasonably well. Fourteen days after their capture, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad announced he would release them as a "gift to Britain." By the same token, the opposite could have happened: They might have disappeared for a year or two until Iran's demands were met.

One thing is certain: Within a couple of days or weeks, we will find out the price Great Britain paid for the release of these hostages. Iranians are known for their keen business sense. There is no such thing as a free gift.

Axis-of-evil-type kidnapping is planned with steely reserve on orders from above. The targets are carefully chosen. In February 1979, shortly after Khomeini returned to Iran and the despised Shah fled, the Revolutionary Guards were ordered to take the whole U.S. Embassy hostage.

For 444 days, 52 American diplomats were imprisoned in the compound as angry crowds gathered outside every day, cursing them and hurling stones and garbage. All America watched in shock. Yellow ribbons were tied around trees as an expression of solidarity with the hostages.

President Jimmy Carter, who was hated by the Iranians because of Camp David and for giving asylum to the dying Shah, ordered a military rescue operation. The mission failed after of a slew of ridiculous blunders that called to mind the bumbling cops in the silent movies.

The Iranian hostage crisis ruined Carter's chances for reelection. The "gift" of releasing the diplomats was bestowed on President Ronald Reagan, who coined the term "evil empire," toppled the Soviet Union and became Israel's greatest friend. Since the first Lebanon war, hostage-taking has been used against us as a cruel instrument of war, torturing the families of captured soldiers and crushing the spirit of Israeli peace-seekers. Behind this violence stands Iran, which is not only threatening Israel, but also moderate Arab countries and Europe.

One can only hope that this supposedly humanitarian gesture of "forgiving" Britain will not stop Bush and Blair from persisting in their battle to keep Iran, whose declared goal is the destruction of Israel, from achieving a nuclear capability.

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  1.   One advantage 09:40  |  JW 06/04/07
  2.   finally somebody with a reasonable mind... 10:03  |  scallywag 06/04/07
  3.   Reactions to kidnapping 10:14  |  Israel Israeli 06/04/07
  4.   The weapon of the weak 10:20  |  Swiss (Dino) 06/04/07
  5.   Yoel Marcus is completely wrong 10:26  |  Clickfool 06/04/07
  6.   The cost to Britain. 10:55  |  David Nigel Braham 06/04/07
  7.   #4 MORE DRIVEL WHEN JERRY IS ABSENT !! 11:08  |  paul harris 06/04/07
  8.   kidnapping. 11:10  |  mike davis 06/04/07
  9.   For JW # 1 11:10  |  Clickfool 06/04/07
  10.   #4, Dino 11:14  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 06/04/07
  11.   For David Nigel Braham # 6 11:31  |  Clickfool 06/04/07
  12.   The battle for the title "Mr. SPIN OF THE WORLD" 1/2 11:31  |  WorldGuardian 06/04/07
  13.   Who shall win the title "Mr. SPIN OF THE WORLD" 2/3 11:33  |  WorldGuardian 06/04/07
  14.   THIS IS ALL ABOUT SLIPSHOD AND INCOMPETENT NAVAL OFFICERS 11:41  |  paul harris 06/04/07
  15.   An Eye for an Eye 11:43  |  soldier 06/04/07
  16.   "Mr. SPIN OF THE WORLD" 3/3 - BLAIR? BUSH? OLMERT? 11:51  |  WorldGuardian 06/04/07
  17.   # 7 paul harris 11:56  |  Swiss (Dino) 06/04/07
  18.   clickfool # 9 12:06  |  scallywag 06/04/07
  19.   worldguardian # 13 12:12  |  scallywag 06/04/07
  20.   # 10 Cipora Julianna Kohn 12:17  |  Swiss (Dino) 06/04/07
  21.   #4 Swiss Dino 12:18  |  paul 06/04/07
  22.   scallywag #2 12:22  |  Yonatan 06/04/07
  23.   my, my...sounds like you are frustrated... 12:25  |  samos 06/04/07
  24.   Can somebody explain to me... 12:25  |  Somebody from Europe 06/04/07
  25.   Prisoners 12:26  |  Ralph 06/04/07
  26.   The reasons for the Easter gift 12:32  |  Jonathan S 06/04/07
  27.   #9 Clickfool 12:42  |  Yonatan 06/04/07
  28.   # 21 paul 12:47  |  Swiss (Dino) 06/04/07
  29.   To #19 scallywag 12:58  |  WorldGuardian 06/04/07
  30.   Yoel, you`re 13:09  |  Abby 06/04/07
  31.   Questions that need to be answered 13:18  |  Chris Linthwaite 06/04/07
  32.   yonatan #22 13:23  |  scallywag 06/04/07
  33.   #5 Clickfool 13:30  |  Labhras 06/04/07
  34.   #12 WorldGaurdian Blair blunders. 13:38  |  Labhras 06/04/07
  35.   worldguardian # 29 13:40  |  scallywag 06/04/07
  36.   For Yonatan # 27 13:46  |  Clickfool 06/04/07
  37.   Israel is the source of terror in the ME 14:01  |  American 06/04/07
  38.   Maliciously 14:03  |  Jan Elshout 06/04/07
  39.   Clickfool number 11. 14:52  |  david Nigel Braham 06/04/07
  40.   331 Chris linthwaite - whatever do you mean 15:15  |  carmen 06/04/07
  41.   HERSHELE AND ABU NAWAS ARE THE BEST 15:21  |  indrajaya 06/04/07
  42.   A big price will be paid by being conned by kindness 15:27  |  The Equalizer 06/04/07
  43.   CHANGED TIMES 15:32  |  Brant 06/04/07
  44.   kidnapping 15:46  |  elizabeth 06/04/07
  45.   #15. Right on 15:50  |  John Allen 06/04/07
  46.   #21 Paul 15:54  |  John Allen 06/04/07
  47.   Peace in our Time 16:00  |  Neville Chamberlain 06/04/07
  48.   This sounds like the ignorant rant of an American talk show host 16:00  |  Apartheid 06/04/07
  49.   # 21 Swiss Dino 16:00  |  paul 06/04/07
  50.   #23 samos we know that your are an 16:02  |  John Allen 06/04/07
  51.   Marcus` Guru,wretch Rabin ,soft on kidnappers 16:03  |  Absolute Sweden 06/04/07
  52.   hostage of 52 american diplomats 16:11  |  saul a. readner 06/04/07
  53.   In 1980 Carter lost his reputation in the world of Islam... 16:25  |  Somebody from Europe 06/04/07
  54.   They are not mad You are soldier 16:28  |  John 06/04/07
  55.   Machmoudi Dressed Them Up Like Easter Bunnies... 16:29  |  Yosemite 06/04/07
  56.   The price is obvious and cannot be reduced 17:00  |  Mark Lincoln 06/04/07
  57.   SAMOS 17:02  |  TOBIA 06/04/07
  58.   #36 Clickfool 17:03  |  G 06/04/07
  59.   IRAN CAN DO WHAT HE WANTED TO DO, ALMOST LIKE ISRAEL (ALMOST) 17:05  |  indrajaya 06/04/07
  60.   What many in the west forget 17:09  |  Danite 06/04/07
  61.   racist bulls*** 17:19  |  jj 06/04/07
  62.   No, Its the fear game. 17:26  |  Joel in Albany 06/04/07
  63.   Griboedov 17:29  |  david 06/04/07
  64.   If Olmert were in Blair`s place.. 17:37  |  Tosefta 06/04/07
  65.   # 4 Swiss 17:45  |  Lynn 06/04/07
  66.   Erratum 17:45  |  J 06/04/07
  67.   The American emabassy was seized by a mob reacting to the transfe 17:55  |  Apartheid 06/04/07
  68.   Bush was right all along..... 17:57  |  Carl 06/04/07
  69.   Nice gift! now lets give them one in return 18:46  |  Jason 06/04/07
  70.   Value human lif!? Yea Right! 18:46  |  Guss 06/04/07
  71.   If Olmert were in Blair`s place.. 19:05  |  Tosefta 06/04/07
  72.   Why do you refuse to post my entry? 19:09  |  nacl 06/04/07
  73.   how iran would have reacted if its US /Israeli sailors 19:09  |  sir castic 06/04/07
  74.   Israel legalised kidnapping years ago 19:27  |  Marilyn 06/04/07
  75.   It is Barbary Coast, once again 19:28  |  Benlolo 06/04/07
  76.   to worldguardian 19:34  |  scallywag 06/04/07
  77.   Keystone Cops? 19:35  |  Ben Azai 06/04/07
  78.   No Abby # 30 . You are wrong 19:47  |  Avrum 06/04/07
  79.   to scallywag 19:56  |  david 06/04/07
  80.   30 Abby,add to abu graibh,Israel`s criminality in the OT 19:59  |  sara 06/04/07
  81.   the trade was made...and a deal for silence 20:11  |  the negotiator 06/04/07
  82.   Ahmadinejad`s Easter Egg is rotten 20:12  |  Clickfool 06/04/07
  83.   Iran real Gift. 20:19  |  Akram Zekaria 06/04/07
  84.   Actually, A Surprisingly Good Column 20:21  |  Tod Zuckerman 06/04/07
  85.   # 38 carmen 20:54  |  Lynn 06/04/07
  86.   # 59 apartheid 21:00  |  Lynn 06/04/07
  87.   #66 Marilyn 21:01  |  paul 06/04/07
  88.   question to marilyn 21:06  |  saul a. readner 06/04/07
  89.   # 47 paul ???????? 21:15  |  Swiss (Dino) 06/04/07
  90.   they will come for more - and be more daring 21:16  |  ScotGuy 06/04/07
  91.   It seems that slowly but surely... 21:19  |  Somebody from Europe 06/04/07
  92.   Did U all see how rehearsed BBC "Press Conference" was 21:22  |  WorldGuardian 06/04/07
  93.   To #46 "Boston Apartheid" 21:27  |  WorldGuardian 06/04/07
  94.   # 57 Lynn 21:29  |  Swiss (Dino) 06/04/07
  95.   naci # 64 dollar question 21:29  |  Labhras 06/04/07
  96.   Tosefta 21:46  |  Danite 06/04/07
  97.   #5, you keep shedding skins and your real spots are showing 21:47  |  InTheKnow 06/04/07
  98.   Mr. Marcus how to you explain Israeli Gulags 22:03  |  InTheKnow 06/04/07
  99.   #86 Swiss Dino 22:21  |  paul 06/04/07
  100.   Correction 22:22  |  ol`man 06/04/07
  101.   #63, "if Olmert were in Blair`s place" 22:28  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 06/04/07
  102.   79 CLICKFOOL,is that really you or a fake? 22:31  |  06/04/07
  103.   79 CLICKFOOL,about the Easter egg 22:35  |  sara 06/04/07
  104.   5 CLICKFOOL ,your statement here contradicts the one in 59 22:39  |  martha 06/04/07
  105.   david # 76 22:40  |  scallywag 06/04/07
  106.   worldguardian # 89 22:41  |  scallywag 06/04/07
  107.   #91, Dino 22:54  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 06/04/07
  108.   answer to Labhras and Appartein question 22:59  |  david 06/04/07
  109.   Yoel, hypocrite 23:41  |  Pssd Off American 06/04/07
  110.   # 98 Sara 00:00  |  ChanahS 07/04/07
  111.   89 WORLD GUARDIAN, a lot of people have been noticing that 00:17  |  martha 07/04/07
  112.   To Indrajaya # Indonesia massacre on Timor Leste 00:17  |  Xanana Gusmão 07/04/07
  113.   Indrajaya#Iran recruiting suicide bomber: 00:22  |  Jose Ramos Horta 07/04/07
  114.   I pledge for you to condemn Indonesia atrocties against Timor 00:27  |  Xanana Gusmão 07/04/07
  115.   # 95 paul 00:29  |  Swiss (Dino) 07/04/07
  116.   # 91 Swiss 00:31  |  Lynn 07/04/07
  117.   # 78 negotiator 00:33  |  Lynn 07/04/07
  118.   # 102 Cipora Julianna Kohn 00:35  |  Swiss (Dino) 07/04/07
  119.   #103 david 00:35  |  Labhras 07/04/07
  120.   # 86 Swiss 00:37  |  Lynn 07/04/07
  121.   Reductio ad absurdam 00:57  |  Negru Voda 07/04/07
  122.   Xanana 01:06  |  Danite 07/04/07
  123.   Marlyn 01:06  |  TOBIA 07/04/07
  124.   Labrhas #115 01:21  |  Danite 07/04/07
  125.   4Dino Weakness is one thing, Barbarism another 01:28  |  Logician 07/04/07
  126.   #114, Dino 01:40  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 07/04/07
  127.   #107 Martha re Blair 02:11  |  Labhras 07/04/07
  128.   patience is a virtue 02:23  |  Henry 07/04/07
  129.   to Xanana Gusmão 02:31  |  David 07/04/07
  130.   # 100 martha 02:34  |  Lynn 07/04/07
  131.   HELP! I am being attacked by a dense Bird from Outerspace #97 02:38  |  Tosefta 07/04/07
  132.   42 ELIZABETH, days of empire are over,get real 02:45  |  martha 07/04/07
  133.   to Mark Lincoln on #53 02:49  |  David 07/04/07
  134.   # 114 Swiss 03:25  |  Lynn 07/04/07
  135.   To Logician 03:28  |  David 07/04/07
  136.   # 5 Clickfool. BRITAIN HAS BEEN HUMILIATED BEYOND WORDS.. 03:29  |  Kath` 07/04/07
  137.   Brittania Rules the Waves...NOT!! 03:37  |  Larry 07/04/07
  138.   CluckFool: the truth does... 03:44  |  Star of David 07/04/07
  139.   Wrongly projecting Jewish values onto the World 03:59  |  Tosefta 07/04/07
  140.   117Transylvania(?): Absurd facts 04:10  |  Logician 07/04/07
  141.   rewriting history 05:43  |  the negotiator 07/04/07
  142.   # 130Kath` HUMILIATE IS NOT AN ISLAMIC VERB 05:50  |  Mohamed MALLECK 07/04/07
  143.   53# Mark Lincolin.Need to march with the time. 06:17  |  Akram Zekaria 07/04/07
  144.   Forgiving the unforgivable 06:21  |  Negru Voda 07/04/07
  145.   Indrajaya This Is Sort Of Unprintable 06:51  |  Yosemite 07/04/07
  146.   # 145, YOSEMITE 07:36  |  indrajaya 07/04/07
  147.   to # 143, Wealth redistribution 07:56  |  Gordon 07/04/07
  148.   Indrajaya Calm Down! This Is A Good Idea! 08:40  |  Yosemite 07/04/07
  149.   Thanks Haaretz 09:07  |  Yosemite 07/04/07
  150.   #144 Read # 140 09:20  |  Logician 07/04/07
  151.   to negru voda 09:25  |  saul a. readner 07/04/07
  152.   Iran did too get the upper hand 09:40  |  dana 07/04/07
  153.   Iran got the upper hand - part II 09:43  |  dana 07/04/07
  154.   to the american, no. 37 09:52  |  saul a. readner 07/04/07
  155.   # 148, YOSEMITE 09:54  |  indrajaya 07/04/07
  156.   to jan elshout, no. 38 09:54  |  saul a. readner 07/04/07
  157.   # 125 Logician 09:59  |  Swiss (Dino) 07/04/07
  158.   Tosefta #139 - beg to differ on match winner 10:00  |  dana 07/04/07
  159.   to tosefta, the pssd off american and other value-seekers 10:02  |  saul a. readner 07/04/07
  160.   # 116 Lynn 10:05  |  Swiss (Dino) 07/04/07
  161.   right back at ya 10:06  |  citizen of the world 07/04/07
  162.   #141 The negotiator - you are cprobably correct 10:21  |  dana 07/04/07
  163.   #142 Malleck: you`re right 11:02  |  Star of David 07/04/07
  164.   Jan Elshout - promoting dictatorship? 11:10  |  Michael Jacobs 07/04/07
  165.   non-existent values 11:24  |  raymond deane 07/04/07
  166.   For Sara # 103 11:34  |  Clickfool 07/04/07
  167.   Indrajaya Old Buddy! 11:47  |  Yosemite 07/04/07
  168.   John #54 12:03  |  Sarah 07/04/07
  169.   To #136 Kath 12:17  |  Scot 07/04/07
  170.   To #136 Kath 12:17  |  Scot 07/04/07
  171.   Raymond Deane 12:48  |  Sarah 07/04/07
  172.   to all those starry-eyed idealists... 12:56  |  scallywag 07/04/07
  173.   maralyn don`t worry you can safely visit ISRAEL 13:11  |  Joe Moer 07/04/07
  174.   clickFOOL @9 uses same stupid phrase 13:18  |  Ari ben Yisrael 07/04/07
  175.   #87 Paul in Toronto You got it in ONE 13:22  |  Ari ben Yisrael 07/04/07
  176.   @139 Tosefta, agree 100% 13:22  |  Mark B. 07/04/07
  177.   !65 AND DEANE ESPOUSES CAUSES !!! 13:36  |  paul harris 07/04/07
  178.   # 142 Mohamed 13:38  |  Lynn 07/04/07
  179.   mark b. # 176 13:42  |  scallywag 07/04/07
  180.   @167 Yosemite in Hollywood 13:49  |  Mark B. 07/04/07
  181.   Clickfool 13:49  |  Sarah 07/04/07
  182.   147#Gordon. 13:55  |  Akram Zekaria 07/04/07
  183.   response to scallywag 14:01  |  Mark B. 07/04/07
  184.   # 160 Swiss 14:02  |  Lynn 07/04/07
  185.   Cleaning 14:12  |  Dsimon wiesel 07/04/07
  186.   # 152 # 153 dana 14:15  |  Lynn 07/04/07
  187.   # 139 Tosefta 14:20  |  Lynn 07/04/07
  188.   # 144 Ethiopians 14:30  |  Lynn 07/04/07
  189.   Lyn...You ar a Frustarted Sarcastic.. 14:42  |  Ali 07/04/07
  190.   #71 Tosefta - More on the Ol`merblair 14:44  |  dana 07/04/07
  191.   166# Clickfoot. On behalf of Sara. 15:00  |  AkramZekaria 07/04/07
  192.   #169 Scottie: eyeing off Kath 15:16  |  Star of David 07/04/07
  193.   Ali #89 Regarding Lynn 15:30  |  Sarah 07/04/07
  194.   Let`s See 15:36  |  Abe 07/04/07
  195.   #152 - #153 Dana - despite uncertainty of sailors ordeal, the 15:54  |  Smadar 07/04/07
  196.   ATONEMENT 16:08  |  ISHMAEL ISHMAEL 07/04/07
  197.   #189 Mustachioed Ali 16:14  |  Cheryl Olsen 07/04/07
  198.   Akram Zekaria 16:29  |  Mark Lincoln 07/04/07
  199.   It could have been worse 16:32  |  Mark Lincoln 07/04/07
  200.   # 189 Ali from PA 16:39  |  Lynn 07/04/07
  201.   For Ari ben Yisrael # 174 17:06  |  Clickfool 07/04/07
  202.   # 189 Ali from PA, in conclusion 17:11  |  Lynn 07/04/07
  203.   dana and "iranian resolve" 17:14  |  palheaven 07/04/07
  204.   dana and "scenario 1" 17:17  |  palheaven 07/04/07
  205.   dana "iran looks civilised" 17:19  |  palheaven 07/04/07
  206.   dana is transparent 17:21  |  palheaven 07/04/07
  207.   dana "iran cares about life and dignity" 17:23  |  palheaven 07/04/07
  208.   dana and her "conjecture" 17:24  |  palheaven 07/04/07
  209.   dana and her "conjecture" 17:24  |  palheaven 07/04/07
  210.   dana "generate a casus belli a la gulf of tomkin" 17:26  |  palheaven 07/04/07
  211.   dana and" faye`s poor fashion sense" 17:30  |  palheaven 07/04/07
  212.   dana "ahmedinejad is not crazy" 17:32  |  palheaven 07/04/07
  213.   # 193 Sarah 17:33  |  Lynn 07/04/07
  214.   GUS YOU DONT HAVE TO ASK 17:35  |  TOBIA 07/04/07
  215.   Gift 17:40  |  Nechama 07/04/07
  216.   To Sarah..Cheryl..and Of course Lyn.. 17:40  |  Ali 07/04/07
  217.   If Iran gained anything (Dana #152,3,8) 17:46  |  Tosefta 07/04/07
  218.   # 15 soldier. An eye for an Eye. BRIEFLY PUT.. 17:49  |  Kath` 07/04/07
  219.   #35 Clickfool 17:49  |  Yonatan 07/04/07
  220.   # 136 Scot to Kath 17:52  |  Lynn 07/04/07
  221.   #48 Apartheid - Gotcha! 17:54  |  Yonatan 07/04/07
  222.   Kidnapped Sailors 17:56  |  Geoff 07/04/07
  223.   # 196 on Atonement and a Light unto Nations 17:57  |  Lynn 07/04/07
  224.   157Dino Barbarism does not stop when you stop being weak. 17:57  |  Logician 07/04/07
  225.   #54 John 17:57  |  Yonatan 07/04/07
  226.   Guantanamo vs. Iran (Mark Lincoln #199, Smadar, Dana) 18:03  |  Tosefta 07/04/07
  227.   Ol`merblair (Dana #190) 18:10  |  Tosefta 07/04/07
  228.   #54 Sarah I said OVERSEAS jews 18:15  |  John 07/04/07
  229.   Thanks (Mark B, Lynn, Saul A. Readner) 18:26  |  Tosefta 07/04/07
  230.   dana on iran 18:43  |  palheaven 07/04/07
  231.   mark b. # 183 18:43  |  scallywag 07/04/07
  232.   dana"iran and saudi would become buddies" 18:45  |  palheaven 07/04/07
  233.   dana and "the new dance" 18:46  |  palheaven 07/04/07
  234.   1)198# Mark Lincoln.Again.It is a matter of time. 18:49  |  Akram Zekaria 07/04/07
  235.   Ali #203 18:50  |  Sarah 07/04/07
  236.   TO ALL OUR CHRISTIAN FRIENDS.**********........... 18:53  |  Kath` 07/04/07
  237.   #196 Ismael 18:55  |  Isaac 07/04/07
  238.   Well the truth is finally out.... 19:03  |  Infidel 07/04/07
  239.   Well the truth is finally out.... 19:03  |  Infidel 07/04/07
  240.   TO KUTW (A .M .P.)SPECIAL GREETING............... 19:03  |  Kath` 07/04/07
  241.   to Ali 19:04  |  david 07/04/07
  242.   Must go now Ha`Aretz` shift has changed & the Censor 19:26  |  Ari ben Yisrael 07/04/07
  243.   2)198# Mark Lincoln.Again.It is a matter of time.. 19:38  |  Akram Zekaria 07/04/07
  244.   John #54 19:48  |  Sarah 07/04/07
  245.   210 John: Your Selective argumentation is suspect of... 19:55  |  Logician 07/04/07
  246.   dana "faye had poor fashion sense" 20:00  |  palheaven 07/04/07
  247.   the forgiveness 20:02  |  Morad 07/04/07
  248.   dana is not know for having an excess of human kindness 20:02  |  palheaven 07/04/07
  249.   # 213 Logician 20:06  |  Swiss (Dino) 07/04/07
  250.   # 166 Clickfool re Sara 20:24  |  ChanahS 07/04/07
  251.   TO DINO 20:53  |  DANNY. 07/04/07
  252.   einstein in tveira 20:58  |  yossi 07/04/07
  253.   # 209 Lynn. re:Scot. THNKS LYNN.......... 20:59  |  Kath` 07/04/07
  254.   SCALLYWAG 21:00  |  DANNY 07/04/07
  255.   tosefta is so keen that the antisemite dana 21:01  |  abdul 07/04/07
  256.   dana unable to escape her culture 21:04  |  palheaven 07/04/07
  257.   dana "ahmedinejad is not crazy" 21:05  |  palheaven 07/04/07
  258.   dana "ahmedinejad looks like the good guy" 21:09  |  palheaven 07/04/07
  259.   dana "ahmedinejad handled the whole thing quite deftly" 21:24  |  palheaven 07/04/07
  260.   dana now as to how ahmedinejad really looks to the west 21:26  |  palheaven 07/04/07
  261.   tosefta, no. 215 and 218 21:27  |  saul a. readner 07/04/07
  262.   dana on faye 21:29  |  palheaven 07/04/07
  263.   #216, Tosefta 21:31  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 07/04/07
  264.   # 243 DANNY 21:34  |  Swiss (Dino) 07/04/07
  265.   DANNY 21:44  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 07/04/07
  266.   I CAN FINALLY AGREE WITH CLICKFOOL & HE CAN AGREE WITH ME - 21:45  |  Ben 07/04/07
  267.   # 211 Geoff. Kidnapped Sailors........... 21:50  |  Kath` 07/04/07
  268.   # 242 Ari ben Yisrael. HOW CAN YOU GUESS THE SHIFT CHANGE?? 22:00  |  Kath` 07/04/07
  269.   # 211 palheaven. YOU KNOW,SHE WAS THE ONLY ONE ... 22:06  |  Kath` 07/04/07
  270.   #264, Dino 22:15  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 07/04/07
  271.   # 54 John of London 22:32  |  Lynn 07/04/07
  272.   For Ben in Jerusalem # 266 22:34  |  Clickfool 07/04/07
  273.   #268 Kath....... I don`t guess........ I know 22:55  |  Ari ben Yisrael 07/04/07
  274.   # 270 Cipora Julianna Kohn 23:08  |  Swiss (Dino) 07/04/07
  275.   Response to scallywag @ 231 23:24  |  Mark B. 07/04/07
  276.   To David,Lyn, sarah..and Cheryl..Bring it.. 23:24  |  Ali 07/04/07
  277.   # 158 dana.re:Tosefta. WHAT WEBS YOU SEEM TO WEAVE!!! 23:24  |  Kath` 07/04/07
  278.   #163 Star of David #178 Lynn 23:28  |  Mohamed MALLECK 07/04/07
  279.   Iran regime as dangerous as Nazi Germany (reply to Geoff) 00:02  |  Briton 08/04/07
  280.   smadar - UK treatment just as repulsive - all dog & pony shows 00:09  |  dana 08/04/07
  281.   # 253 00:24  |  Mohamed MALLECK 08/04/07
  282.   Tosefta #217 - on scientists, Americans and conspiracy theories 00:27  |  dana 08/04/07
  283.   # 158 dana. WHAT WEBS YOU WEAVE(THIRD TRY).... 00:29  |  Kath` 08/04/07
  284.   To #192 David 00:32  |  Scot 08/04/07
  285.   # 235 Sarah. THANK GOODNESS ..... 00:42  |  Kath` 08/04/07
  286.   Tosefta #217 - on Ol`merblair and other birds 00:59  |  dana 08/04/07
  287.   Malleck # 275 re Aumann 01:06  |  ChanahS 08/04/07
  288.   To Sarah..Lyn and of Cheryl.. 01:11  |  Ali 08/04/07
  289.   # 272 Mohamed MALECK. re:Star of David #178 Lynn. 01:12  |  Kath` 08/04/07
  290.   @201 Clickfool haha 01:17  |  Mark B. 08/04/07
  291.   dana makes excuses for fellow muslims 01:32  |  Danite 08/04/07
  292.   dana new opportunities 01:38  |  Danite 08/04/07
  293.   Kath #271 - Far fetched `R Us or maybe not 02:11  |  dana 08/04/07
  294.   #280, "theories" 02:13  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 08/04/07
  295.   Kath #271 - on travel, vacations, laptops and conspiracy theories 02:32  |  dana 08/04/07
  296.   danas missing element in her conspiracy theory 02:44  |  Danite 08/04/07
  297.   Cipora and alpha girls 02:45  |  danite 08/04/07
  298.   # 278 Mohamed Malleck 02:49  |  Lynn 08/04/07
  299.   hey Cipora - no alpha, nor BETA just a PETA girl 02:51  |  dana 08/04/07
  300.   PALHAVEN-NUMEROUS POSTS 02:54  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 08/04/07
  301.   #290 Mark B re #201 clickfool and the new ME show 03:09  |  dana 08/04/07
  302.   # 293 Competence? 03:19  |  Lynn 08/04/07
  303.   to sarah ,lynn,and cheryl-RE; ALI 03:20  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 08/04/07
  304.   AUMANN 03:21  |  Mohamed MALLECK 08/04/07
  305.   #278 Ya Mohamed MALLECK: sorry 03:33  |  Star of David 08/04/07
  306.   here goes - as predicted - the Big Faye Interview 04:06  |  dana 08/04/07
  307.   #302 Lynn - you should really start seeing things the way they ar 04:24  |  dana 08/04/07
  308.   dana 04:27  |  Danite 08/04/07
  309.   # 295 dana. WHAT LOVELY PICTURE YOU PAINT. 04:28  |  Kath` 08/04/07
  310.   Conspiracy theories (Dana #282) 04:28  |  Tosefta 08/04/07
  311.   Cipora rules.. 04:28  |  Danite 08/04/07
  312.   clickfool= the BOATS?? WHERE ARE THEY?? 04:29  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 08/04/07
  313.   # 273 Ari ben Yisrael.PLEASE ELUCIDATE... 04:57  |  Kath` 08/04/07
  314.   dana and the exodus 05:04  |  Danite 08/04/07
  315.   # 304 Star of David 05:07  |  Mohamed MALLECK 08/04/07
  316.   #298 Lynn 05:19  |  Mohamed MALLECK 08/04/07
  317.   Somehow, I really can`t sympathize with Britain 05:20  |  * BEN JABO 08/04/07
  318.   Dana #280 - The British have a special place in my heart 06:23  |  Smadar 08/04/07
  319.   To Mohamed MALLECK 06:27  |  david 08/04/07
  320.   Tosefta likes Iranian and Syrian regimes 06:43  |  applepie 08/04/07
  321.   danite #296, 314 - feeling a bit neglected, eh? 06:45  |  dana 08/04/07
  322.   IF 06:50  |  Murray of Montreal 08/04/07
  323.   dam good article 06:53  |  ben ha enaym 08/04/07
  324.   #315 ya Mohamed MALLECK 06:54  |  Star of David 08/04/07
  325.   danite #308 - seeing through it all... 07:03  |  dana 08/04/07
  326.   Tosefta #310 - you brought up a good point 07:26  |  dana 08/04/07
  327.   No dana 07:41  |  Danite 08/04/07
  328.   dana and conspiracy theories 07:44  |  Danite 08/04/07
  329.   leave iran and ahmadinejad alone 08:47  |  eric 08/04/07
  330.   forgivness game 09:27  |  sam 08/04/07
  331.   No. 317 Illegal immigrants. 10:31  |  Palestinian Brit 08/04/07
  332.   The story is changing...... 10:37  |  Palestinian Brit 08/04/07
  333.   A fascinating view of world policing from Dana # 280 10:47  |  Clickfool 08/04/07
  334.   CFOOL is completely wrong.How would you know what went on? 10:48  |  PETERSM 08/04/07
  335.   MARYLIN your side is/was at war with Israel.Britain was not 10:52  |  PETERSM 08/04/07
  336.   The arrogance of "the forgiveness game" 11:11  |  Jeff Siddiqui 08/04/07
  337.   For Ben Jabo # 317, who can`t forgive Britain 11:20  |  Clickfool 08/04/07
  338.   For Peter SM # 334 12:07  |  Clickfool 08/04/07
  339.   #331 Palestinian Brit 18:46  |  * BEN JABO 08/04/07
  340.   Clickfool - You forgot a few things 18:55  |  * BEN JABO 08/04/07
  341.   # 306 dana. THERE WAS NO NEED .......... 21:02  |  Kath` 08/04/07
  342.   # 322 Murray of Montreal.re:IF 21:21  |  Kath` 08/04/07
  343.   # 341 dana. AN ADDENDUM.IF YOU ARE INTERESTED.. 21:48  |  Kath` 08/04/07
  344.   #333 Clickfool - check out the BBC interviews 01:08  |  dana 09/04/07
  345.   Kath #306, 341 - it`s the telegraph, after all 01:30  |  dana 09/04/07
  346.   #272 Mohamed MALECK 12:15  |  Aby 09/04/07
  347.   Clickfool - That was "Lend Lease", not Lend,Lease & forget 22:16  |  * BEN JABO 10/04/07
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