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Seeing the Other more clearly
By Leonie Schultens

In recent days, Haaretz has again focused on Israel's image in Germany. In his review of last weekend's 8th Europe-Israel Dialogue in Berlin, sponsored by the Axel Springer Foundation ("Germans again mull Israel's right to exist," March 12, 2007), Assaf Uni warns that Israel's right to exist is increasingly being questioned among the German population. The author bases this statement on discussions at the conference and recent surveys conducted by the Bertelsmann Foundation and the BBC World Service.

Uni begins his article as follows: "The state of Israel is facing two strategic threats: an Iranian nuclear bomb and the denial of its right to exist." He goes on to discuss the evidence for the second threat, with specific reference to German public opinion.

Before explaining the poll results and their implications they have for the subject of Germans' opinions on Israel, I would like to suggest an alternative headline for Uni's piece: "Like most Israelis and American Jews, a majority of Germans (62 percent according to the Bertelsmann survey) agree that Iran's nuclear program poses a threat to Israel's existence."

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Uni refers to a BBC poll, of residents of 27 countries, in which most respondents ranked Iran and Israel as the countries with the most negative influence on the world. In Germany, 77 percent of respondents viewed Israel as having a "negative influence," although Uni, in his article, referred to 77% of Germans having mainly negative "views" of Israel.

There is a fine line between negative "influence" and negative "views," as it appears in Uni's piece. Moreover, perusal of the more detailed Bertelsmann survey sheds light on why 77 percent of Germans consider Israel to have a negative influence in the world.

In Germany, 57 percent of the population believe there is no circumstance justifying the use of military force. As the pollsters themselves explain, German attitudes are greatly influenced by the motto of "Never again." This view has become so deeply ingrained as to translate into a revulsion for any kind of military confrontation. The "negative influence" Germans see Israel as being inextricably linked to the use of force and the situation in the region.

This view is underlined by German media reports about the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. In reporting the speech by German Chancellor Angela Merkel that opened the Berlin conference, Uni emphasizes her support for Israel's right to exist: "I regret that I am forced to reiterate this repeatedly," she said.

The Israeli reader may be interested in knowing that the German media dealt with completely different aspects of the chancellor's speech. Headlines focused on Merkel's statement, "We cannot lose hope for a solution to the conflict," and on Germany's special responsibility for mediating an end to it. It thus seems that Germans want to help Israel in ending the conflict, which is at the root of Israel's perceived "negative influence."

The images portrayed in the German press and here are thus completely at odds with one another, leading one to wonder whether there is not a tendency to resort to readily available stereotypes when covering this highly sensitive and emotionally charged relationship.

It's not my intention to single out the Israeli media for pouncing on even the smallest neo-Nazi gathering and turning it into a matter of life or death for the State of Israel. This also refers to German journalists who all too often prefer the image of the Israeli soldier at the checkpoint to that of the Israeli student or homemaker.

The Bertelsmann poll found that 43 percent of Israelis suspect that Germans are anti-Semitic even today, compared to only 19 percent of Germans who consider their own people to harbor anti-Jewish sentiments. This raises the question of whether both peoples actually apply their own views, however concrete or baseless, to their beliefs, thoughts and, yes, also to their coverage of the other.

Due to deeply seated and well-founded existential fears, Israelis always suspect more Jew-hatred than there actually is. Whereas Germans, rightfully ashamed of their horrific past, prefer to downplay any racist or anti-Semitic elements in their society.

Interestingly, the Bertelsmann survey found that 78 percent of Germans view Israel as a state like any other. Far from denying Israel's right to exist, this is evidence of a normalization of relations and perceptions, in which Israel is accorded the same rights and obligations as all other members of the international community. It also found, however, that 56 percent of Israelis believe Germany cannot treat Israel like any other country.

In light of the past and the psychological and social currents it has imprinted onto each people's collective consciousness, it may be impossible for either country's media coverage of the other to ever approach the latter's own self-image. Nevertheless, an attempt at explaining the nuances may help prevent a biased picture from emerging, a bias expressed in the headline "Germans again mull Israel's right to exist."

The writer is a German journalist living and working in Tel Aviv.

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  1.   German= immoral country 14:39  |  KA 16/03/07
  2.   but why try and rationalise german dislike of the jews? 14:55  |  gadalyah 16/03/07
  3.   recently a senior german politician compared 14:57  |  gadalyah 16/03/07
  4.   Has Israel too many friends in Europe....?? 15:07  |  Swiss (Dino) 16/03/07
  5.   Israel is a sovereign State 16:08  |  Moshe 16/03/07
  6.   Bias and Positively Bias 16:23  |  Bandar Michaels 16/03/07
  7.   On Germany and Israel 16:43  |  Lynn 16/03/07
  8.   everyone has the right... 16:55  |  ravi 16/03/07
  9.   People are lying 17:09  |  Marcel 16/03/07
  10.   # 4 Swiss 17:12  |  Lynn 16/03/07
  11.   Germany 17:12  |  Shanna 16/03/07
  12.   #4 DINO AND HIS LEGO SET GIVES ADVICE 17:12  |  paul harris 16/03/07
  13.   Seeing the Other more clearly 17:18  |  eynav 16/03/07
  14.   # 7 Lynn, since I realized that you are also on this thread..... 17:22  |  Swiss (Dino) 16/03/07
  15.   About time - at last an intelligent journalist 17:28  |  Ben Joseph 16/03/07
  16.   Result of Liberalism 17:30  |  Paul 16/03/07
  17.   # 10 paul harris and "Luftmenschen"..... 17:32  |  Swiss (Dino) 16/03/07
  18.   # 4 Dino-Swiss,Germans have a dual reacon for accepting Israel 17:39  |  Haham Me Bat Yam 16/03/07
  19.   Germans mull Israel`s Right to Exist---Absurd! 18:09  |  Phil 16/03/07
  20.   Media imposed values 18:17  |  Ben Azai 16/03/07
  21.   #1 - YOU ARE IMMORAL 18:30  |  Barry S. Roffman 16/03/07
  22.   # 17 Haham Me Bat Yam 18:44  |  Swiss (Dino) 16/03/07
  23.   MOshe #5...Well according to your logic even 18:57  |  KA 16/03/07
  24.   germany has changed 19:10  |  someone from germany 16/03/07
  25.   # 20 Swiss 19:30  |  Lynn 16/03/07
  26.   KA # 1 19:33  |  Lynn 16/03/07
  27.   There is no need to love each other 19:57  |  goethe 16/03/07
  28.   Germany and the Jews are bound together in history 20:04  |  The Equalizer 16/03/07
  29.   goethe 20:10  |  Somebody from Europe 16/03/07
  30.   Celebrity type polls vs. History 20:13  |  Chick Corea 16/03/07
  31.   "the denial of its right to exist" & German public opinion. 20:16  |  bat yam 16/03/07
  32.   lynn, Benny Morris says most Jews are Europeans 20:50  |  KA 16/03/07
  33.   GERMANS SHOULD GET RID OF THE GUILT OF SOME OF THEIR ELDERS, ASAP 20:53  |  JACKAL 16/03/07
  34.   Lynn: Germans can`t have it both ways 20:54  |  German 16/03/07
  35.   Lynn (25, 26) 21:10  |  christoph 16/03/07
  36.   seeing the other more clearly 21:22  |  Raphael gabay 16/03/07
  37.   Guilt.... 21:26  |  Blogowitz 16/03/07
  38.   Marcel -- no law prohibits criticism of Israel or Jews 21:42  |  bbl 16/03/07
  39.   German whitewashing by a German journalist 21:50  |  Jonathan S 16/03/07
  40.   Is it working yet Kahlid? 21:57  |  bbl 16/03/07
  41.   KA 22:03  |  Lynn 16/03/07
  42.   goethe 22:05  |  Somebody from Europe 16/03/07
  43.   Well - some of the German talkbackers here... 22:06  |  Somebody from Europe 16/03/07
  44.   KA`s racist bigotry 22:18  |  Alain 16/03/07
  45.   KA`s racist bigotry 22:19  |  Alain 16/03/07
  46.   Ravi #8 22:27  |  Alain 16/03/07
  47.   Why does Haaretz censor this? 22:36  |  Alain 16/03/07
  48.   About Never Again 22:47  |  Jonathan S 16/03/07
  49.   KA 22:53  |  Alain 16/03/07
  50.   The right to exist implies the right to defend 23:03  |  Efox 16/03/07
  51.   goethe 23:09  |  Somebody from Europe 16/03/07
  52.   re: goethe 23:13  |  Efox 16/03/07
  53.   it`s interesting what mrs. schultens does not say 23:14  |  saul a. readner 16/03/07
  54.   Swiss Dino 23:22  |  Jake 16/03/07
  55.   Efox (#36) 23:30  |  christoph 16/03/07
  56.   #28 KA DOESNT KNOW HIS RRRS FROM HIS ELBOW 23:34  |  paul harris 16/03/07
  57.   German`s view of Israels`s right to exist 23:47  |  Garry 16/03/07
  58.   Germany is good for one thing! 00:08  |  Wiktor 17/03/07
  59.   Perhaps it should be said 00:29  |  German woman 17/03/07
  60.   # 45 Jake 00:30  |  Swiss (Dino) 17/03/07
  61.   German ignorance 00:37  |  ron 17/03/07
  62.   Wiktor, say that (52) 00:52  |  christoph 17/03/07
  63.   Goethe 01:19  |  Cervantes 17/03/07
  64.   What if 01:20  |  Axel 17/03/07
  65.   christoph # 35 01:20  |  Lynn 17/03/07
  66.   # 34 German 01:22  |  Lynn 17/03/07
  67.   Jonathan S 01:24  |  Lynn 17/03/07
  68.   # 40 bbl 01:45  |  Lynn 17/03/07
  69.   # 27 goethe 01:46  |  Lynn 17/03/07
  70.   i WAS ANGRY AT MARCEL UNTIL I REAL... 02:11  |  PALESTINIAN BOY 17/03/07
  71.   To ron 61, German-Jewish vicious circle 02:25  |  goethe 17/03/07
  72.   Germany is a SOVEREING COUNTRY 03:46  |  Federico Glez 17/03/07
  73.   Jews are native to Israel, Arabs to Arabia..EU are mutts 03:57  |  David 17/03/07
  74.   Germany = started WWI and WWII 04:34  |  Ryan 17/03/07
  75.   ACHTUNG 04:51  |  BERNHARD 17/03/07
  76.   benny morris`s books are not reliable. 05:55  |  maria 17/03/07
  77.   palestinians are jordanians 06:00  |  maria 17/03/07
  78.   ARMENIAN GENOCIDE BOLL 06:11  |  John Alexopoulos 17/03/07
  79.   how can Israel have many friends? 06:12  |  maria 17/03/07
  80.   KA, what`s that you say? 06:27  |  Jake 17/03/07
  81.   KA, why do you appropriate our history? 06:36  |  Jake 17/03/07
  82.   #79 maria - keep yoour holy stuff to yourself 06:45  |  BERNHARD 17/03/07
  83.   Lynn...You say Palestinains were Jordanians..and Egyptians 07:11  |  KA 17/03/07
  84.   # 5 moshe is neither fair nor right 07:55  |  arab 17/03/07
  85.   why america is not mentioned ? 08:02  |  arab 17/03/07
  86.   Why constantly linking Palestinians with Jewish people? 08:32  |  Fabian 17/03/07
  87.   Nr61 German Ignorance 09:09  |  Fabian 17/03/07
  88.   to #74: Germany only started WWII 09:17  |  Bernie 17/03/07
  89.   Swiss Dino 09:56  |  Jake in Ventura 17/03/07
  90.   Israel`s right to exist. 10:49  |  David Nigel Braham 17/03/07
  91.   to no. 1 barry 11:11  |  sultan 17/03/07
  92.   #83 THE THEIVES KA ARE THOSE LIVING ON JEWISH LAND IN JORDAN 11:46  |  paul harris 17/03/07
  93.   #88 WRONG 1870 , 1914 1939 ALL GERMAN INVASIONS OF FRANCE 11:49  |  paul harris 17/03/07
  94.   78# THATS WHY WE HATE THE LEFTISTS!!! 12:03  |  alonitzafoni 17/03/07
  95.   # 89 Jake in Ventura 12:13  |  Swiss (Dino) 17/03/07
  96.   Seeing Germany more clearly 12:54  |  Jonathan S 17/03/07
  97.   An answer for Lynn I 13:27  |  Jonathan S 17/03/07
  98.   An answer for Lynn II 13:29  |  Jonathan S 17/03/07
  99.   What a nonsense! 13:31  |  Fritz 17/03/07
  100.   #3, completely nonsense 13:35  |  Fritz 17/03/07
  101.   #2, see yourself! 13:43  |  Fritz 17/03/07
  102.   #24. some guy and all jews 13:44  |  VIPER 17/03/07
  103.   #1, the "jewish criminal oppression" 13:46  |  Fritz 17/03/07
  104.   #28, the EQUALIZER 13:46  |  VIPER 17/03/07
  105.   46...ALAIN 13:57  |  ravi 17/03/07
  106.   The ones who have learnt nothing from their terrible Nazi past. 14:08  |  David Hawkins 17/03/07
  107.   war crimes vs baking a cake 14:31  |  TimothyL 17/03/07
  108.   german media is connivingly anti-Israel 15:04  |  Albert Fischer 17/03/07
  109.   # 96 / # 97 # 98 Jonathan S 15:05  |  Swiss (Dino) 17/03/07
  110.   Read "the last Berliner" by Kaniuk about contemp. German Anti-S 15:05  |  AA 17/03/07
  111.   Christoph, I`m sorry you misunderstood me. 15:13  |  Wiktor 17/03/07
  112.   @ Paul Harris - "#88 WRONG 1870 , 1914 1939 ALL... 15:35  |  René Fries 17/03/07
  113.   Somebody call 911. Paul Harris has gone crazy! 15:47  |  Wiktor 17/03/07
  114.   JonathanS, It`s time to move! 15:51  |  Bwana Meteor 17/03/07
  115.   Germany and Antisemitsme 16:05  |  Cord H. Kaldrack 17/03/07
  116.   # 106 Albert Fischer Anti-Israel German media....?? 16:39  |  Swiss (Dino) 17/03/07
  117.   #112 YOURE JOKING OF COURSE , THE REASONS WERE 17:02  |  paul harris 17/03/07
  118.   The German-Palestinian symbiosis 17:08  |  Jonathan S 17/03/07
  119.   Germany is a normal European country now 17:39  |  Paul Henzen 17/03/07
  120.   form a German 17:50  |  Sarah 17/03/07
  121.   For Cord H. Kaldrack and other Berliners 17:52  |  David Hawkins 17/03/07
  122.   GERMANY IS GRAND, IS GREATNESS 17:56  |  Federico Glez 17/03/07
  123.   Swiss 18:02  |  Albert Fischer 17/03/07
  124.   rene french fries and luxembourg 18:34  |  betzalel ben uri 17/03/07
  125.   # 83 KA 18:41  |  Lynn 17/03/07
  126.   #114 from Venezuela? 18:45  |  Lynn 17/03/07
  127.   # 85 arab 18:51  |  Lynn 17/03/07
  128.   # 86 Fabian of Belgium 18:58  |  Lynn 17/03/07
  129.   Wear a kippa in public! 19:20  |  Cord H. Kaldrack 17/03/07
  130.   #121, David Hawkins 19:26  |  Bernhard 17/03/07
  131.   # 122 Albert Fischer 19:28  |  Swiss (Dino) 17/03/07
  132.   The Germans will never forgive the Jews the Holocaust 19:38  |  Markus Grafenburg 17/03/07
  133.   arab....palestine 19:55  |  maria 17/03/07
  134.   What Israel can expect from Germany 19:57  |  Jonathan S 17/03/07
  135.   rene french fries and little palestine 20:09  |  betzalel ben uri 17/03/07
  136.   German media coverage of the ME 20:11  |  Peer 17/03/07
  137.   # 9 Marcel. Isreal is unpopular because it is a bully. 20:13  |  Nick Ferriman 17/03/07
  138.   What is `Israel`? 20:23  |  Klaus Boemker 17/03/07
  139.   # 74 Ryan 20:36  |  Nick Ferriman 17/03/07
  140.   Jonathan S. you should chill out and move away 20:49  |  Albert Fischer 17/03/07
  141.   # 130 Peer 20:56  |  Swiss (Dino) 17/03/07
  142.   # 93 Paul Harris. 21:00  |  Nick Ferriman 17/03/07
  143.   Likud Israel`s existence 21:14  |  Klaus Bloemker 17/03/07
  144.   seeing the other (swastika?) 21:22  |  les 17/03/07
  145.   Klaus 21:39  |  Danite 17/03/07
  146.   No. 144 - the `Aryan Israeli` 21:46  |  Klaus Bloemker 17/03/07
  147.   Nick Ferriman 21:54  |  Alain 17/03/07
  148.   markus 21:55  |  Danite 17/03/07
  149.   Swiss (Dino) ... 90%?!! 21:56  |  US Citizen 17/03/07
  150.   GERMANY 21:57  |  PARIS 17/03/07
  151.   JonathanS 22:09  |  Alain 17/03/07
  152.   Swiss Dino and "nice" Jews 22:20  |  sg 17/03/07
  153.   The German bomb for the mullahs 22:25  |  Jonathan S 17/03/07
  154.   For Alain on Baath and the consequences 22:54  |  Jonathan S 17/03/07
  155.   # 149 US Citizen 23:20  |  Swiss (Dino) 17/03/07
  156.   anti-semitism 23:23  |  Derek 17/03/07
  157.   # 152 sg 23:45  |  Swiss (Dino) 17/03/07
  158.   #142 VERY INTERESTING NICK BUT NOTHING TO DO WITH MY POST 23:52  |  paul harris 17/03/07
  159.   I like that Germany abhors violence, if true 00:06  |  Jason 18/03/07
  160.   German Bishops made appalling antisemitc comments 00:19  |  Francis 18/03/07
  161.   nick ferriman writes from a bangkok nick 00:28  |  betzalel ben uri 18/03/07
  162.   a critical friend 00:55  |  Cornelia 18/03/07
  163.   nick ferriman "the consequences of this was war" 01:01  |  betzalel ben uri 18/03/07
  164.   nick ferriman is a creep 01:08  |  betzalel ben uri 18/03/07
  165.   nick ferriman 01:11  |  betzalel ben uri 18/03/07
  166.   nick ferriman loves america 01:13  |  betzalel ben uri 18/03/07
  167.   nick ferriman "america left france and the uk 01:18  |  betzalel ben uri 18/03/07
  168.   Please ave Jonathan S 01:21  |  goethe 18/03/07
  169.   nick ferriman "to lay the war at the hands of the germans 01:21  |  betzalel ben uri 18/03/07
  170.   nick ferriman "a point of honour" 01:22  |  betzalel ben uri 18/03/07
  171.   nick ferriman says he has to much at stake 01:34  |  betzalel ben uri 18/03/07
  172.   the tveira creep is leaving we still have labhras 01:49  |  metternich 18/03/07
  173.   Germanabia-Here comes SHARIA LAW! 03:35  |  The Cid 18/03/07
  174.   #1 KA KA = An immoral individual 04:31  |  * BEN JABO 18/03/07
  175.   #58 Wiktor - at least Germany realized 04:36  |  * BEN JABO 18/03/07
  176.   Ravi 05:41  |  Connie 18/03/07
  177.   Herr Klaus 05:54  |  Connie 18/03/07
  178.   And G-d said wait til the return of the Mashiach 06:12  |  j_meltz@yahoo.com 18/03/07
  179.   Re #74 `Germany = started WW1 and WW2` 06:31  |  Colin Wright 18/03/07
  180.   re #77 `palestinians are jordanians` 06:35  |  Colin Wright 18/03/07
  181.   #16 Paul `Result of Liberalism` 06:41  |  Colin Wright 18/03/07
  182.   Ben Jabo: The Zionists raped an entire country, 06:59  |  Palestinian 18/03/07
  183.   Francis #160..what the German clergyman said 07:02  |  KA 18/03/07
  184.   128 Lynn 08:17  |  Fabian 18/03/07
  185.   Lesson from the 3 Reich 09:41  |  Klaus Bloemker 18/03/07
  186.   german attitude towards israeli 10:36  |  gus 18/03/07
  187.   #105 klaus AND A LACK OF HISTORY GIVES US 11:18  |  paul harris 18/03/07
  188.   # 163 to 171. Betzalel Ben Uri. You`ve misquoted. 13:26  |  Nick Ferriman 18/03/07
  189.   @ Paul Harris #117 13:53  |  René Fries 18/03/07
  190.   @ betzalel ben uri #124 (part 1) 14:39  |  René Fries 18/03/07
  191.   @ betzalel ben uri #124 (part 2) 14:40  |  René Fries 18/03/07
  192.   @ betzalel ben uri #124 (part 3) 14:40  |  René Fries 18/03/07
  193.   #182 Palestinian 17:11  |  * BEN JABO 18/03/07
  194.   World War I and German Jews 17:17  |  Horst Schlemmer 18/03/07
  195.   @ Horst Schlemmer 17:49  |  René Fries 18/03/07
  196.   #195 Ren&@233 ,Fries 22:15  |  * BEN JABO 18/03/07
  197.   #179 - Colin needs correction AGAIN 22:27  |  * BEN JABO 18/03/07
  198.   @René Fries 22:50  |  Horst Schlemmer 18/03/07
  199.   192-2 PALESTINIAN - A family affair 01:50  |  * BEN JABO 19/03/07
  200.   @ Ben Jabo & Horst Schlemmer (part 1) 09:48  |  René Fries 19/03/07
  201.   Schlemmer and the usual German deception 10:08  |  Jonathan S 19/03/07
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