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Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni. (Reuters)
Last update - 15:19 03/03/2007
Israel pushing to improve Saudi peace initiative ahead of Riyadh summit
By Aluf Benn, Haaretz Correspondent

Israel is expecting the Arab League to adopt an improved version of the Saudi peace plan at a summit meeting called for the end of this month in Riyadh, senior government sources told Haaretz on Thursday.

"We understand that the intention is to improve the initiative and come up with a better offer," said one.

Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni presented Israel's demands Thursday. First and foremost, she said, Israel objects to the document's section on the Palestinian refugees, which was not part of the initial Saudi draft, but was added at the 2002 Arab League summit in Beirut.

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"A new summit is in the offing, and they ought to know which parts [of the plan] are acceptable to Israel and what seems to us like an absolute red line," she explained in an interview with Channel 10 television.

Livni said that the original draft presented by King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia "was, in my view, positive." That draft called for a full Israeli withdrawal to the pre-1967 borders in exchange for peace and normalization with the entire Arab world.

"Admittedly, the initiative spoke of the 1967 lines, but I only wish we were in a situation in which the conflict was just a border dispute," she added.

The new article inserted at the 2002 Beirut summit, however, demanded a "just solution to the Palestinian refugee problem, to be agreed upon in accordance with UN General Assembly Resolution 194," and that resolution calls for allowing the refugees to return to Israel. It therefore contradicts Israel's vision of a two-state solution, which, explained Livni, calls for a Jewish national homeland alongside a Palestinian national homeland, with the latter serving as the solution for the Palestinian refugees.

Livni said that she has presented this stance in conversations with Palestinian representatives with whom she met over the last month. She reiterated it in an interview that was published in the Palestinian daily Al-Ayyam Thursday, in which she said bluntly, "It is impossible for Israel to accept the Arab peace initiative in its current formulation."

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has said a few times over the last few months that the Saudi initiative contains "positive elements."

The Riyadh summit, which was called by King Abdullah, is slated to take place on March 28 and 29. The agenda includes the Arab peace initiative, the Iranian threat and the communal tensions in Lebanon. Over the last few weeks, Abdullah has tried to mediate on all of these issues, with the goal of promoting regional stability.

Olmert, meanwhile, will hold another meeting with Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas in two weeks, while Livni will travel to Europe next week to meet with European foreign ministers in the framework of Israel's Association Agreement with the European Union. During these meetings, she will urge her European counterparts not to deviate from the Quartet's demand that any Palestinian government recognize Israel, renounce terror and honor previous Israeli-Palestinian agreements. She will also present what she called "the Israeli peace initiative" for a two-state solution.

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  1.   My Personal offer to all of you Jews and Israel 03:35  |  MOE 02/03/07
  2.   peace initiative 03:48  |  Alan 02/03/07
  3.   If the Palestinians want peace they`ll drop right of return 03:57  |  Dave 02/03/07
  4.   Israel should pay reperations and in return... 04:07  |  David G 02/03/07
  5.   be careful MOE 04:39  |  guy 02/03/07
  6.   #3 Dave; read your post; agree with 04:50  |  ballistic 02/03/07
  7.   Haaretz Subject Title in other words 04:50  |  Joseph E . 02/03/07
  8.   Leave wahabi bastards out of peace plans 05:04  |  Dr. L. Brnd 02/03/07
  9.   border dispute 05:13  |  rami 02/03/07
  10.   Garbage 05:15  |  Joseph 02/03/07
  11.   Pre-1967? 05:22  |  Marty E. 02/03/07
  12.   MOE #1 05:27  |  Bruce 02/03/07
  13.   Saudi Peace initiative 05:50  |  Bruce 02/03/07
  14.   Livnat 05:55  |  irwin 02/03/07
  15.   LIVNI AND OLMERT ARE BOTH DEFEATIST LEFTIST LOSERS 06:03  |  DAN ROSENTHAL 02/03/07
  16.   Saudi "peace" plan, de-Orwellized 06:14  |  Michael Green 02/03/07
  17.   Question 06:49  |  Peter H 02/03/07
  18.   They want to punish "Modearte" Israel by rewarding the "Radicals" 06:53  |  Joseph E . 02/03/07
  19.   #13, where`s your national pride? In Monsey NJ 07:08  |  newageblues 02/03/07
  20.   #3 Dave, I think I agree 07:25  |  newageblues 02/03/07
  21.   To #4 David G 07:33  |  Franco 02/03/07
  22.   That last sentence just cracks me up!! 07:34  |  Johnboy 02/03/07
  23.   What a coward nation 07:39  |  Marilyn 02/03/07
  24.   Dave in Toronto 07:41  |  Marilyn 02/03/07
  25.   One State Solution - nothing else 07:45  |  Waleed 02/03/07
  26.   #11 Marty E on East Jerusalem 07:47  |  Johnboy 02/03/07
  27.   Two Trojan Horses: Saudia & Arab Ligue 07:48  |  Nora 02/03/07
  28.   Bruce #12 07:49  |  Neil 02/03/07
  29.   To #17 Peter H (first part) 07:57  |  Franco 02/03/07
  30.   respond to # 16 08:02  |  Waleed 02/03/07
  31.   Bruce from NJ 08:02  |  Joseph 02/03/07
  32.   To #17 Peter H (second part) 08:03  |  Franco 02/03/07
  33.   VIVA LA DIFFERRANCE!!!! 08:04  |  MOSES II 02/03/07
  34.   Why conditions? 08:13  |  JK 02/03/07
  35.   Bruce No 12 08:18  |  JK 02/03/07
  36.   to DAN in MONSEY 08:20  |  bo 02/03/07
  37.   MARTY 11 08:24  |  CRAZY HORSE 02/03/07
  38.   Right 08:25  |  Colin Wright 02/03/07
  39.   When the Saudi plan will state clearly that Jewishs may come to 09:01  |  Nadav 02/03/07
  40.   I prefere to preserve the right of return, than have 09:12  |  KA 02/03/07
  41.   Moe, You can accept but your leaders 09:12  |  Aby 02/03/07
  42.   If Israel wants peace, it will drop the constant excuses 09:13  |  Lebanese Patriot 02/03/07
  43.   We like the Saudi initiative, just not the bit about withdrawing 09:13  |  Clickfool 02/03/07
  44.   ballistic 09:19  |  Aby 02/03/07
  45.   Forgetting Important Facts 09:31  |  Stan 02/03/07
  46.   Isn`t it Amazing !!! 09:36  |  Stan 02/03/07
  47.   #17 Peter H asks a very good question 09:37  |  Johnboy 02/03/07
  48.   The big lie 10:00  |  Roey 02/03/07
  49.   Dave, can you give up the right of return for Jews 10:12  |  gus 02/03/07
  50.   guy That Arab are capable to stop what you are affraid of 10:16  |  gus 02/03/07
  51.   Rewriting the Saudi peace initiative 10:20  |  lydia 02/03/07
  52.   Wanting peace 10:36  |  BMH 02/03/07
  53.   What? Another proposal? 10:42  |  Tzfonit 02/03/07
  54.   Give and take. 10:47  |  Colin. 02/03/07
  55.   Israel should talk before it`s too late 10:57  |  Michael 02/03/07
  56.   Allow 15 million Germans return to Poland&Chekoslovakia,give back 11:04  |  Absolute Sweden 02/03/07
  57.   KA and getting one`s wishes 11:12  |  Sam 02/03/07
  58.   Lebanese Patriot #40 - Only the Brave 11:12  |  Tzfonit 02/03/07
  59.   KA 11:14  |  Walid 02/03/07
  60.   Peter H and preserving the majority 11:26  |  Sam 02/03/07
  61.   THE SAME CAN OF SARDINES FOR 60 YEARS 11:51  |  paul harris 02/03/07
  62.   Right of return not only problem with saudi plan 11:51  |  zionist forever 02/03/07
  63.   #3 DAVE, sorry but i don`t agree 11:55  |  VIPER 02/03/07
  64.   Absolute Sweden, another red herring 12:00  |  Marilyn 02/03/07
  65.   Jerusalem? 12:08  |  Paul 02/03/07
  66.   # 56 Walid 12:10  |  ChanahS 02/03/07
  67.   # 1 Moe 12:13  |  ChanahS 02/03/07
  68.   Israel wants agreement before discussion 12:13  |  raymond deane 02/03/07
  69.   3: Invading Iraq didn`t help lower oil prices; praying won`t help 12:14  |  Tupac 02/03/07
  70.   What? Another Proposal? Second Try 12:16  |  Tzfonit 02/03/07
  71.   Marilyn -- Proving you wrong is like shooting fish in a barrel 12:25  |  bbl 02/03/07
  72.   PUSHING TO IMPROVE 12:28  |  Stix 02/03/07
  73.   41 Aby: Let Me Enlighten You 12:29  |  Tupac 02/03/07
  74.   KA -- have some sympathy for the Palestinian people 12:36  |  bbl 02/03/07
  75.   Bias! 12:37  |  Paul 02/03/07
  76.   NO 2 state solution, NO right of return 12:42  |  Christian 02/03/07
  77.   Marilyn #23 - Nice try 12:49  |  Zelkha 02/03/07
  78.   71 Tupac: Let Me Enlighten You 12:49  |  Josef 02/03/07
  79.   Great, at least they are not ignoring it any longer..... 12:51  |  Swiss (Dino) 02/03/07
  80.   65 ChanahS Here`s why Barak offer was rejected 13:00  |  Tupac 02/03/07
  81.   A 1000 words 13:09  |  JJ 02/03/07
  82.   ChanahS vs. Walid 13:11  |  Petra 02/03/07
  83.   #66 DEANE TROTS OUT INTERNATIONA LAW AGAIN ?? 13:22  |  paul harris 02/03/07
  84.   Saudi peace initiative can`t be improved 13:24  |  John 02/03/07
  85.   The counter offer should be binding for Israel 13:29  |  Bandar Michaels 02/03/07
  86.   Does anyone recall any whatsoever Israel parliamentary 13:35  |  Joseph E . 02/03/07
  87.   Dave 13:49  |  Lynn 02/03/07
  88.   # 22 Johnboy 13:52  |  Lynn 02/03/07
  89.   KA 13:55  |  Lynn 02/03/07
  90.   Tzfonit 13:56  |  Khalil 02/03/07
  91.   Only those exiled can waive such rights 13:57  |  El-Birawi 02/03/07
  92.   #74 bbl 13:57  |  Johnboy 02/03/07
  93.   MOE 13:58  |  Lynn 02/03/07
  94.   23#no marilyn 14:02  |  alonitzafoni 02/03/07
  95.   VIPER 14:03  |  Lynn 02/03/07
  96.   To #23- My Coward Nation 14:04  |  Yonatan Netser 02/03/07
  97.   To Marilyn,johnboy, clickfull and other loosers 14:08  |  Ibrahim Shvonce 02/03/07
  98.   #43 CLICKFOOL 14:26  |  Chasaboy 02/03/07
  99.   51 - The only Choice is to protect Israel`s sovereignty 14:35  |  Bruriah Sarah 02/03/07
  100.   71 - the PA wants to drive Israel into the sea 14:42  |  Bruriah Sarah 02/03/07
  101.   Saudi crap 14:50  |  Brod 02/03/07
  102.   CAN I COME LIVE IN THE WONDERFULL LAND OF OZ MARILYN 64#? 14:53  |  alonitzafoni 02/03/07
  103.   To MOE #1: I think your proposal is reasonable 14:59  |  Shlomo from Tel Aviv 02/03/07
  104.   BRAVE AMERICANS 15:00  |  Futura 02/03/07
  105.   Where is Lloyds of London????? 15:01  |  Ronnie Wolman 02/03/07
  106.   #1 Moe 15:06  |  * BEN JABO 02/03/07
  107.   Tzfonit on Proposals 15:08  |  Ronnie Wolman 02/03/07
  108.   Why doesnt Livini just tell the "League" to shovel it 15:09  |  SLAVO 02/03/07
  109.   Khalil #86 Yes, What about the Prisoners in Israel? 15:10  |  Tzfonit 02/03/07
  110.   #4 David G. 15:11  |  * BEN JABO 02/03/07
  111.   #4 David G. 15:11  |  * BEN JABO 02/03/07
  112.   @ Ibrahim Shvonce - "To Marilyn,johnboy, clickfull ... 15:14  |  René Fries 02/03/07
  113.   Fool me a thousand times... 15:14  |  James 02/03/07
  114.   #24 Marilyn 15:16  |  * BEN JABO 02/03/07
  115.   DO IT NOW 15:16  |  indrajaya 02/03/07
  116.   Chasaboy # 96...you must be new, Clickfool NEVER gets the truth 15:17  |  The Equalizer 02/03/07
  117.   # 40 KA If this would be a just world...... 15:19  |  Swiss (Dino) 02/03/07
  118.   Moe`s personal guarantee 15:20  |  Zorba 02/03/07
  119.   It is the violence stupid...until it stops there can be no peace 15:22  |  The Equalizer 02/03/07
  120.   #23 Marilyn - You`ve no idea what cowardice is 15:22  |  * BEN JABO 02/03/07
  121.   #83 Bandar Michaels 15:29  |  * BEN JABO 02/03/07
  122.   #89 El Birawi 15:34  |  * BEN JABO 02/03/07
  123.   Bandar Michaels 15:38  |  * BEN JABO 02/03/07
  124.   Kurile Islands 15:41  |  From the Moon 02/03/07
  125.   The questions of Refugees 15:41  |  Yaakov Sullivan 02/03/07
  126.   # 96 Chasaboy 15:45  |  SAM 02/03/07
  127.   Walid 15:46  |  Danite 02/03/07
  128.   Tupac, Fabricated truths 15:47  |  Aby 02/03/07
  129.   DOESN`T MATTER 15:47  |  Stephen Connor 02/03/07
  130.   Refugees should be given aid & move into the WB settlements 15:48  |  A Bethlehemite 02/03/07
  131.   It is a border dispute - and Israael has `won` 15:53  |  Mark Lincoln 02/03/07
  132.   the olmert acheievement 15:54  |  zionist forever 02/03/07
  133.   ISRAEL PUSHES 15:54  |  stop the madness 02/03/07
  134.   El-Birawi 15:55  |  Stephen Connor 02/03/07
  135.   I agree with Livnat... 15:56  |  Rami 02/03/07
  136.   4 ... David G 16:00  |  zionist forever 02/03/07
  137.   Marylin 16:02  |  David N 02/03/07
  138.   Marilyn, you can sing it till you are blue in the face 16:04  |  Sam 02/03/07
  139.   Yonatan - The Coward 16:05  |  Stephen E.Connor 02/03/07
  140.   do PALs wants peace? 16:06  |  ed 02/03/07
  141.   40 ... KA 16:10  |  zionist forever 02/03/07
  142.   None of this matters 16:15  |  Gee 02/03/07
  143.   # 76 16:16  |  lets get this right 02/03/07
  144.   Johnboy # 60 Documentation 16:21  |  Jeff Northridge 02/03/07
  145.   ms yaakov sullivan why would an irish lady named yaakov 16:23  |  ariel schactman 02/03/07
  146.   Refugees issue 16:23  |  Yariv 02/03/07
  147.   ms yaakov sullivan orders israel to do the following: 16:26  |  ariel schactman 02/03/07
  148.   A new excuse by Israel 16:32  |  Tosefta 02/03/07
  149.   Economics, Not Politics Will Be Improvement For Palestinians 16:36  |  Peter 02/03/07
  150.   Just compensation, Swiss? #110 16:53  |  Polybios 02/03/07
  151.   Arabs want to terminally weaken Israel 16:53  |  Jason 02/03/07
  152.   Tosefta this is what the question should be 16:56  |  Ronnie Wolman 02/03/07
  153.   Amusing to see Israelis in denial about Right of Return 16:58  |  Hani 02/03/07
  154.   Livni 17:04  |  Sam 02/03/07
  155.   Yonatan # 94- Ata gadol 17:07  |  Chanah 02/03/07
  156.   Yaakov Sullivan. Are you the one whom people 17:08  |  Shmuel Berkowitz 02/03/07
  157.   Refugees hardly told to leave (Jeff Northridge #144; Johnboy #92) 17:08  |  Tosefta 02/03/07
  158.   El-Birawi on Palestine Agency 17:15  |  Hani 02/03/07
  159.   # 74 bbl re # 40 KA (Khaled) 17:16  |  ChanahS 02/03/07
  160.   To David G - that was already agreed to for years 17:21  |  William 02/03/07
  161.   Why can`t Israelis see that they`ve won? 17:24  |  SD 02/03/07
  162.   UNGAR 194 17:24  |  Jeff Northridge 02/03/07
  163.   I want to ask Mr. Sullivan a question 17:28  |  Rita 02/03/07
  164.   Amusing to see Palestinians in denial 17:31  |  Stephen Connor 02/03/07
  165.   Yonatan Netser - Amazing post! 17:33  |  Moises 02/03/07
  166.   Hani - One State solution 17:33  |  Polybios 02/03/07
  167.   Turncoat Sullivan - The Question is why does anybody pay attentio 17:34  |  * BEN JABO 02/03/07
  168.   Shmukele Berkowitz now the third baiter 17:34  |  Yaakov Sullivan 02/03/07
  169.   Tzfonit #53 17:36  |  Gabe1 02/03/07
  170.   Jonnyboy #22 - I would not laugh at you if... 17:37  |  Moises 02/03/07
  171.   Good question, not asked (Ronnie Wolman #152) 17:38  |  Tosefta 02/03/07
  172.   #156 Shmuel Berkowitz 17:38  |  * BEN JABO 02/03/07
  173.   one decision 17:39  |  michael 02/03/07
  174.   KA - 5 million?? #40 17:40  |  William 02/03/07
  175.   Jeff #162 "Offsetting penalties"? 17:43  |  Polybios 02/03/07
  176.   And what keeps Lebanon from making peace with Israel? - #42 Leb P 17:44  |  William 02/03/07
  177.   For Chasaboy # 98 17:49  |  Clickfool 02/03/07
  178.   No Mr. Sullivan, I actually have no idea whether 17:50  |  Shmuel Berkowitz 02/03/07
  179.   Hani Is it good for you 17:52  |  Aby 02/03/07
  180.   #131 Mark Lincoln 17:52  |  * BEN JABO 02/03/07
  181.   still missing the point 17:53  |  Jan Elshout 02/03/07
  182.   Stephen #164, 139, 134 17:55  |  Polybios 02/03/07
  183.   Gus - how is the lifestyle of Pal refugees Israel`s fault? #49 17:56  |  William 02/03/07
  184.   rita, are you on the same website as the other lot? #163 17:57  |  Yaakov Sullivan 02/03/07
  185.   Tosefta - what happened to the Muslims of Tzfat? 18:03  |  Polybios 02/03/07
  186.   Raymond - Pals at the table with demands #68 18:04  |  William 02/03/07
  187.   #44 Hey Aby; read your post 18:06  |  ballistic 02/03/07
  188.   the west bank is the next to go 18:07  |  Wendy 02/03/07
  189.   The real problem with the Arab-Israeli issue 18:11  |  William 02/03/07
  190.   dave g, @4, we will pay pals only if arabs will 18:13  |  vladimir 02/03/07
  191.   # 150 Polybios 18:14  |  Swiss (Dino) 02/03/07
  192.   #76 Christian; well, read your post and I certainly 18:15  |  ballistic 02/03/07
  193.   Which Jewish refugees received their land back?? - El-Birawi #91 18:16  |  William 02/03/07
  194.   Tosefta # 148 Nah, Let`s Go With This Instead 18:17  |  Jeff Northridge 02/03/07
  195.   # 153 Hai - it`s you who are in denial 18:20  |  ChanahS 02/03/07
  196.   #143 18:20  |  Christian 02/03/07
  197.   #83 Hey there Paul; see you are up and about 18:21  |  ballistic 02/03/07
  198.   # 165 Moises - surely you mean 18:24  |  ChanahS 02/03/07
  199.   Berkowitz, please do me a favour #171 18:27  |  Yaakov Sullivan 02/03/07
  200.   #86 Joseph; read your post; the light is 18:27  |  ballistic 02/03/07
  201.   Silliness (on Res. 194) and its discontents (Jeff Northridge#162) 18:28  |  Tosefta 02/03/07
  202.   CF and return of lands 18:28  |  ChanahS 02/03/07
  203.   #108 SLAVO; answer is "Bush/Cheney" 18:30  |  ballistic 02/03/07
  204.   Israel STARTED the Push Jews into the sea comment 18:30  |  Alex 02/03/07
  205.   #162, Jeff Northridge 18:31  |  JB 02/03/07
  206.   question for "Marylin" 18:33  |  Joseph 02/03/07
  207.   Good question, not asked (Ronnie Wolman #152) 18:33  |  Tosefta 02/03/07
  208.   #17 Question of demographics 18:34  |  John 02/03/07
  209.   If Pal refugees returned to Israel 18:37  |  William 02/03/07
  210.   William #177 What utter nonsense!!! 18:38  |  Yaakov Sullivan 02/03/07
  211.   why a new Oslo? 18:41  |  r 02/03/07
  212.   Tosefta - Are you serious in quoting Benny Morris?? #157 18:45  |  William 02/03/07
  213.   Moises - The illiterate 18:46  |  Stephen Connor 02/03/07
  214.   vladimir, #178 what do you base that on? 18:47  |  Yaakov Sullivan 02/03/07
  215.   Israel - Stay Strong and Dump the Delusions 18:52  |  Tod Zuckerman 02/03/07
  216.   moe 18:59  |  bev 02/03/07
  217.   ykele sulivan has no answer to schmuel- 19:00  |  mb 02/03/07
  218.   NO WAY 19:04  |  AH 02/03/07
  219.   THERE IS NO REFUGEE PROBLEM!! STOP MAKING UP HISTORY!!!! 19:06  |  SHIMON 02/03/07
  220.   to all pals lovers 19:08  |  vladimir 02/03/07
  221.   Swiss #179 19:10  |  Polybios 02/03/07
  222.   Stephen Conner? Confused? 19:12  |  Ibrahim 02/03/07
  223.   pals, you will never get clinton parameters more 19:17  |  vladimir 02/03/07
  224.   William on Benny Morris #204 19:19  |  Yaakov Sullivan 02/03/07
  225.   Polybios on 1-state solution 19:23  |  Hani 02/03/07
  226.   #40, KA, the heart and soul of the problem 19:31  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 02/03/07
  227.   Aby Baby on Right of Return 19:33  |  Hani 02/03/07
  228.   Right of return and compensation for both Jews and Arabs 19:33  |  El-Birawi 02/03/07
  229.   Yo Marilyn 19:34  |  boxley 02/03/07
  230.   Shimon, surprise surprise! The Refugees Exist 19:46  |  Hani 02/03/07
  231.   For Chanah S 19:56  |  Clickfool 02/03/07
  232.   SAUDI OFFERS RIGHT OF RETURN TO ARABIA 19:58  |  B 02/03/07
  233.   #204 Alex 20:00  |  ChanahS 02/03/07
  234.   ANOTHER QUESTION FOR MARYLIN !!!! 20:00  |  Alberto Cohen 02/03/07
  235.   an observation 20:02  |  Betar 02/03/07
  236.   Stephen Connor # 213 20:04  |  ChanahS 02/03/07
  237.   mb, "could you did the same"?? #217 20:06  |  Yaakov Sullivan 02/03/07
  238.   Dave # 3 20:08  |  Avi 02/03/07
  239.   Racist Tosefta 20:08  |  Absolute Sweden 02/03/07
  240.   Ben Jabo - Did you read my post? 20:08  |  Mark Lincoln 02/03/07
  241.   Steps forward 20:09  |  ZS 02/03/07
  242.   #201, Israel`s admittance to the UN 20:11  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 02/03/07
  243.   David G #4 _Yes to reparations but only... 20:11  |  David Israel 02/03/07
  244.   Israel correct priority 20:17  |  Alberto Cohen 02/03/07
  245.   #212 William, in denial of Deir Yassin 20:17  |  Tosefta 02/03/07
  246.   #101 Brod; haven`t you heard of Bandar Bush? 20:21  |  ballistic 02/03/07
  247.   Cipora Julianna Kohn 20:22  |  Lynn 02/03/07
  248.   Israel-Palestine Binational state can remain "The" Jewish State 20:25  |  Hani 02/03/07
  249.   #131 Mark, and the King will get one! 20:25  |  ballistic 02/03/07
  250.   Saudi Plan 20:29  |  izwick 02/03/07
  251.   Some more things to do 20:35  |  From the Moon 02/03/07
  252.   honest questions for jack sullivan. 20:36  |  shades of a charade 02/03/07
  253.   #247, Lynn 20:42  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 02/03/07
  254.   Saudi Inititive Is a START Not an End Game 20:46  |  Jane 02/03/07
  255.   To Hani 20:48  |  inigo montoya 02/03/07
  256.   ballistic #246 20:50  |  Polybios 02/03/07
  257.   shades of a charade, you have the wrong person #252 20:50  |  Yaakov Sullivan 02/03/07
  258.   Morris falsehoods 20:53  |  inigo montoya 02/03/07
  259.   #188 Bingo!! 20:53  |  ballistic 02/03/07
  260.   No to Binational State 20:55  |  Jane 02/03/07
  261.   re # 178 and # 247 Mr. Sullivan 20:57  |  Alberto Cohen 02/03/07
  262.   Hani # 225 20:59  |  Polybios 02/03/07
  263.   257no sullivan. i got the right guy. why are you so evasive? 21:09  |  shades of a charade 02/03/07
  264.   # 248 Hani 21:09  |  ChanahS 02/03/07
  265.   No peace in our time-but pretend to want to talk 21:10  |  Voice of Reason 02/03/07
  266.   Forget peace! 21:12  |  Igor D. 02/03/07
  267.   #23, Marilyn, get a clue please 21:13  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 02/03/07
  268.   Mark lincoln# 240 21:23  |  Yariv 02/03/07
  269.   Right of Return for 1st Generation 21:26  |  dan 02/03/07
  270.   Segnor Cohen on slander and shedding of blood #261 21:27  |  Yaakov Sullivan 02/03/07
  271.   @214, yakov 21:35  |  vladimir 02/03/07
  272.   In other words,let Israel completely re-write the Saudi plan. 21:36  |  Toronto`s Finest 02/03/07
  273.   HAG SAMEAKH TO ALL. 21:42  |  vladimir 02/03/07
  274.   JB # 205 Sure, There`s a Possibility 21:48  |  Jeff Northridge 02/03/07
  275.   @209, william, we don´t want pals with any conditions 21:52  |  vladimir 02/03/07
  276.   Tzfat (Polibius #185) 21:53  |  Tosefta 02/03/07
  277.   #269 Dan 22:02  |  Yariv 02/03/07
  278.   #269 What about 1st and 2nd generation of Jews? 22:05  |  ballistic 02/03/07
  279.   #266 Igor; seems you are wrong about your 22:07  |  ballistic 02/03/07
  280.   #64 Marilyn, Never bbi and his other occupations 22:09  |  Dutch 02/03/07
  281.   Israel and Saudi - no USA - excellent! 22:09  |  tadchase 02/03/07
  282.   #275 no Pals under any conditions. 22:09  |  ballistic 02/03/07
  283.   Admittance to UN (Bird from Outerspace #242) 22:10  |  Tosefta 02/03/07
  284.   Improved version?? 22:14  |  Blogowitz 02/03/07
  285.   #277 you are the problem, not a solution 22:16  |  ballistic 02/03/07
  286.   Tosefta - Abu Ghosh is NOT a Christian village 22:16  |  Polybios 02/03/07
  287.   to pals 22:17  |  vladimir 02/03/07
  288.   #272 Toronto`s Finest 22:19  |  ballistic 02/03/07
  289.   266 Igor 22:26  |  Khalil 02/03/07
  290.   Hi there Yaakov Sullivan; looks at though you 22:30  |  ballistic 02/03/07
  291.   Polybios on Abu Ghosh and the massacres #282 22:31  |  Yaakov Sullivan 02/03/07
  292.   #256 Well, Polybios, you hit the nail on the head, however 22:38  |  ballistic 02/03/07
  293.   Jane # 254 I Agree With Reservations 22:41  |  Jeff Northridge 02/03/07
  294.   #280 Tadchase--Indeed it does!!! 22:44  |  ballistic 02/03/07
  295.   "Right of Return" nonsense 22:46  |  tadchase 02/03/07
  296.   #4 David G, saying, Pay Them and give them normal life 22:48  |  TOMY 02/03/07
  297.   #284 Polybius` complaints 22:51  |  Tosefta 02/03/07
  298.   Tosefta #282 22:58  |  Gee 02/03/07
  299.   Rebuking Poster #76 22:58  |  Chris 02/03/07
  300.   ChanahS Re: Moises the Illiterate 23:01  |  Stephen Connor 02/03/07
  301.   #170 Moises 23:06  |  Johnboy 02/03/07
  302.   #239 Absolute Sweden, are you a dumb blond? 23:07  |  Tosefta 02/03/07
  303.   Status Quo Appears To Be Best Solution! 23:13  |  Peter 02/03/07
  304.   What kind of refuges are we talking about?? 23:15  |  TOMY 02/03/07
  305.   SAUDIES are the biggest problem for worlds 23:24  |  TOMY 02/03/07
  306.   240Mark Lincoln: 1967Nasser Embargo, Ousting UN troops defensive? 23:27  |  Logician 02/03/07
  307.   #40 KA, So Israel has to take in 5 million 23:32  |  TOMY 02/03/07
  308.   ChanahS 23:33  |  Walid 02/03/07
  309.   refugee 23:33  |  refugee 02/03/07
  310.   Ballistic 23:34  |  inigo montoya 02/03/07
  311.   Tosefta # 282 Admittance To the UN 23:39  |  Jeff Northridge 02/03/07
  312.   #274, Jeff Northridge 23:42  |  JB 02/03/07
  313.   "land for peace" means "land for unenforceable Arab promises" 23:43  |  Not a Dhimmi no more 02/03/07
  314.   #3 - Dave from Canada 23:43  |  Emile Roberson 02/03/07
  315.   MUSLIMS ARE AFRAID 23:44  |  Stephen Connor 02/03/07
  316.   ballistic 23:47  |  stephanie 02/03/07
  317.   #50 gus, the arab extremism is Culturaly and 23:51  |  TOMY 02/03/07
  318.   William 212 23:51  |  Stephen Connor 02/03/07
  319.   Pals 23:55  |  heinz 02/03/07
  320.   TO #235 23:56  |  THE JUDGE 02/03/07
  321.   Don?t waist time, they believe only in your distraction 23:59  |  e.m 02/03/07
  322.   #51,Iydia is thretening,WE ARE NOT AFRAID 00:02  |  TOMY 03/03/07
  323.   ballistic cont 00:02  |  stephanie 03/03/07
  324.   #197 BALLISTIC CANT SPELL CAJONES BUT WRITES LOADS OF THEM 00:03  |  paul harris 03/03/07
  325.   Don?t waste time, they believe only in your distraction 00:04  |  e.m 03/03/07
  326.   # 288 Stephen Connor 00:04  |  ChanahS 03/03/07
  327.   #278 please specify what is pal b AND TELL US THE ORIGINS . 00:09  |  paul harris 03/03/07
  328.   # 295 Walid - what witch hunt? 00:09  |  ChanahS 03/03/07
  329.   Hani Keep on dreaming your sweet dreams 00:11  |  Aby 03/03/07
  330.   balistic 3 00:13  |  stephanie 03/03/07
  331.   #52 BMH, It is easy for you to dictate from 00:13  |  TOMY 03/03/07
  332.   #282, Israel`s admission to the UN 1 00:13  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 03/03/07
  333.   refugee 00:16  |  bev 03/03/07
  334.   #282, Israel`s admission to the UN 2 00:19  |  Cipora Jullianna Koh 03/03/07
  335.   To Waleed # 25 00:26  |  christa 03/03/07
  336.   #306 Muslims afraid; well, the pot shouldn`t 00:26  |  ballistic 03/03/07
  337.   El-Birawi - You just need a little more work 00:26  |  Stephen Connor 03/03/07
  338.   peter h question 00:26  |  stephanie 03/03/07
  339.   marilyn 00:29  |  stephanie 03/03/07
  340.   #307 Hi Stephanie; read your post, sounds good 00:30  |  ballistic 03/03/07
  341.   # 23 Marilyn 00:33  |  christa 03/03/07
  342.   #310 Hi There 00:35  |  ballistic 03/03/07
  343.   waleed 00:37  |  Stephanie 03/03/07
  344.   Nora 00:41  |  Stephanie 03/03/07
  345.   Mr. Yaakov Sullivan and his refusal to recognize 00:41  |  Shmuel Berkowitz 03/03/07
  346.   Are the self-righteous pro-pal postings serious... 00:42  |  Rich 03/03/07
  347.   Peter # 291 Good Idea 00:45  |  Jeff Northridge 03/03/07
  348.   #295 Gee on Space Station 7 00:48  |  Tosefta 03/03/07
  349.   On Resolution 194 (Jeff Northridge #308) 00:59  |  Tosefta 03/03/07
  350.   3272 YOU FORGOT TRANSFER OF ARABS TO JORDAN TF 01:04  |  paul harris 03/03/07
  351.   # 224 Yaakpv Sullivan.re:benny Moris. HE RETRACTED AND DEBUNKED.. 01:07  |  Kath` 03/03/07
  352.   #25 Waleed, you are right.The solution=Binational State 01:12  |  Brad 03/03/07
  353.   #303 Sorry, that won`t be an option!! 01:17  |  ballistic 03/03/07
  354.   # 273 vladimir. OH YES INDEED."HAG SAMEACH TO ALL... . 01:17  |  Kath` 03/03/07
  355.   Israel`s admission (Bird from Outerspace #334) 01:23  |  Tosefta 03/03/07
  356.   #124 #120 *BEN JABO Your fixation... 01:27  |  Maureen Ann 03/03/07
  357.   Hey Yaakov; they are gnawing on you on two posts! 01:41  |  ballistic 03/03/07
  358.   #324 Paul Harris. A little matter of spelling... 01:43  |  Maureen Ann 03/03/07
  359.   #340 Stephanie 01:43  |  ballistic 03/03/07
  360.   BULLISTIC 01:48  |  Stash 03/03/07
  361.   # 76 + 196 Christian 01:59  |  Traude 03/03/07
  362.   ChanahS 02:01  |  Walid 03/03/07
  363.   # 221 Polybios 02:01  |  Swiss (Dino) 03/03/07
  364.   Marilyn-#64-you are either lying or you are ill informed 02:05  |  Daniel Leopold 03/03/07
  365.   JB # 309 It`s a Pain-In-The-Ass 02:06  |  Jeff Northridge 03/03/07
  366.   Stephen Connor, Let me remind you... 02:08  |  Dutch 03/03/07
  367.   KA-#40-You prefer the right of return? 02:09  |  Daniel Leopold 03/03/07
  368.   Marilyn -- When proven wrong do you just fold? 02:13  |  bbl 03/03/07
  369.   Johnny boy -- #94: I shouldn`t have to do your homework for you. 02:23  |  bbl 03/03/07
  370.   More for Johnny Boy #94, who will not do his own research 02:27  |  bbl 03/03/07
  371.   One more for Johnnyboy #92 02:30  |  bbl 03/03/07
  372.   El-Birawi #91 -- on refugees 02:40  |  bbl 03/03/07
  373.   Start vs End Game - Jane 02:52  |  Mark Lincoln 03/03/07
  374.   Binational State? - Jane 02:56  |  Mark Lincoln 03/03/07
  375.   Don?t waste time, they believe only in your destruction 03:00  |  e.m 03/03/07
  376.   Yariv - watching the war 03:04  |  Mark Lincoln 03/03/07
  377.   Logician - look at the dispositions 03:09  |  Mark Lincoln 03/03/07
  378.   Bruriah Sarah (#100) 03:10  |  JJ 03/03/07
  379.   Tosefta to Gee 03:10  |  Mark Lincoln 03/03/07
  380.   Bruriah Sarah (#100) - cont`d 03:11  |  JJ 03/03/07
  381.   ballistic # 340 Zealots 03:20  |  Jeff Northridge 03/03/07
  382.   speaking of HEBRON 03:23  |  maria 03/03/07
  383.   Rich (#346) 03:25  |  JJ 03/03/07
  384.   tomy from ny...you got that right. 03:28  |  maria 03/03/07
  385.   what do you think?pals are canaanites? 03:45  |  maria 03/03/07
  386.   who`s the rightful owner of the promised land. 04:02  |  maria 03/03/07
  387.   Lynn #89 04:20  |  TonyL 03/03/07
  388.   My post Maureen Ann #350 Meaning... 04:28  |  Maureen Ann 03/03/07
  389.   #77 Jeff--they will just have to be, plain and simple 04:33  |  ballistic 03/03/07
  390.   Maureen 04:37  |  Lynn 03/03/07
  391.   #351, Tosefta 04:42  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 03/03/07
  392.   Tosefta 04:46  |  Ben Gurion 03/03/07
  393.   *BEN JABO 04:47  |  Maureen Ann 03/03/07
  394.   Marilyn and the "right of return" 04:47  |  Nicolas 03/03/07
  395.   357Mark Lincoln: 1967 Nasser Disposition was to strangle Israel, 04:49  |  Logician 03/03/07
  396.   #324 He Paul; now shake your head a few 04:49  |  ballistic 03/03/07
  397.   125 - Refugees 05:21  |  Nicolas 03/03/07
  398.   #324 Hi there Maureen, another gnawed on 05:22  |  ballistic 03/03/07
  399.   #360 Hey stash; buffalo droppings 05:25  |  ballistic 03/03/07
  400.   ballistic re. #76 christian 05:44  |  maria 03/03/07
  401.   #390 Lynn David Hicks and Bushite double standards. 06:33  |  Maureen Ann 03/03/07
  402.   #398 ballistic Refreshing to read your posts... 06:53  |  Maureen Ann 03/03/07
  403.   #376 The Soviet motive was - 07:08  |  Giora Sedman 03/03/07
  404.   CHAG PURIM SAMEACH to everyone 07:31  |  Daniel Leopold 03/03/07
  405.   #370 bbl 07:44  |  Johnboy 03/03/07
  406.   nasser embargo 07:49  |  stephanie 03/03/07
  407.   Jeff Northridge#347 07:49  |  Danite 03/03/07
  408.   Anyway 07:52  |  Danite 03/03/07
  409.   Marilyn the hypocrite 07:53  |  Danite 03/03/07
  410.   The real problem: PALS didn`t wanted peace in 1948. PALS don`t.. 07:54  |  Vittorio 03/03