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PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas greeting U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in Ramallah on Sunday. (Reuters)
Last update - 23:21 18/02/2007
Rice: U.S. to judge PA gov't based on whether it meets int'l demands
By Aluf Benn, Haaretz Correspondent, and Agencies

United States Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Sunday that the U.S. will determine its policy towards the new Palestinian unity government on the basis of whether or not it meets the Quartet's demands that it recognize Israel, renounce violence, and accept prior accords.

"We know that when that government is formed we will be making our decision on the basis of whether or not it meets the Quartet principles," Rice said.

Rice told reporters that the U.S. was committed to working with Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas.

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"I think that we can continue to work with Abu Mazen [Abbas], continue to discuss with Abu Mazen, continue to explore with Abu Mazen," Rice said.

Rice met privately with Prime Minister Ehud Olmert for two and a half hours Sunday, and the two sides did not issue any statements following the meeting.

Abbas' aides said that Rice told the PA chairman during their Ramallah meeting Sunday that she'd withhold judgment on the new PA unity government until it has been formed, but suggested the U.S. would not budge from its demands.

"The Americans told us that this agreement does not meet the Quartet conditions," Abbas aide Yasser Abed Rabbo said. "But we have an understanding with Rice that they will wait until we see this government declare its program."

Abbas, in turn, told Rice that his deal with Hamas was the best he could get, suggesting it's unlikely there will be a change in the government's program.

During the meeting, Rice said the U.S. position is unchanged, a senior American official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because the talks were private.

He confirmed the U.S. would withhold judgment until the Palestinian government is formed. "We will reach our own conclusions," he said.

Rice sought explanations Sunday from Abbas about the new PA unity government that both Washington and Israel say they intend to shun, and Abbas on Sunday tried to persuade Rice to give the Hamas-Fatah coalition a chance, his aides said.

In his talks with Rice, Abbas portrayed the power-sharing deal as an achievement, saying it has helped moderate Hamas. Abbas also emphasized that he, not the government, would handle any negotiations with Israel, and Rice assured him the U.S. would continue dealing with him, his aides said.

Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh of Hamas accused the U.S. and Israel on Sunday of trying to sabotage the unity deal.

Pledging to continue to "probe the diplomatic horizon," Rice traveled to the West Bank to meet the Palestinian leader hours after Olmert said that Israel and the U.S. were agreed that the new government must meet international demands.

The meeting ended after two hours, and Rice departed without commenting to reporters.

Abbas, Olmert and Rice are due to hold a trilateral summit in Jerusalem on Monday. Following her meeting with Abbas, Rice was to return to Jerusalem for talks with the prime minister.

"I hope that this meeting with the three of us will be an opportunity to understand the current situation and commit and recommit to existing peace agreements," Rice told reporters at the start of the meeting Sunday, with Abbas seated at her side.

Rice acknowledged later that the moment is awkward for discussions of peace, but said she wanted to go ahead with Monday's summit with Abbas and Olmert.

"We could have decided not to meet during this time, but I actually think that when people have questions and want to explore issues that arise out of something like the agreement to form a national unity government that it's better that they be able to do it face to face," Rice told reporters.

Olmert told the cabinet earlier Sunday that the U.S. and Israel are in total accord on shunning any Palestinian government that doesn't meet international demands to recognize Israel, renounce violence and accept existing peace accords.

The prime minister said that he and U.S. President George W. Bush had spoken by phone Friday about the Palestinian power-sharing accord whose platform falls short of meeting those demands, posed by the Quartet of Middle East negotiators - the U.S., European Union, United Nations and Russia.

The ruling Hamas movement and its rival Fatah agreed earlier this month at a summit in Mecca on the formation of a new unity government, aimed at stemming months of factional violence and lifting a year-long international aid embargo.

"A Palestinian government that won't accept the Quartet conditions won't receive recognition and cooperation," Olmert told ministers. "The American and Israeli positions are totally identical on this issue."

But Interior Minister Roni Bar-On, who is close to Olmert, said Israel "would not boycott" Abbas because it needed to keep a channel of communications open with the Palestinians and snubbing him would "definitely thrust him towards Hamas."

The three-way summit will begin Monday morning at the David's Citadel Hotel in Jerusalem, where Rice and her entourage are staying, and last a few hours.

The meeting between Olmert, Abbas, and Rice will be followed by a lunch in which the three will be joined by Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni, Defense Minister Amir Peretz, and Vice Premier Shimon Peres.

No joint press conference is planned for afterward, in order to avoid a public comment on the anticipated differences of opinion. However, Rice will issue a statement.

Rice arrived in Jerusalem on Saturday, where she met with Livni. The two had also spoken several times by telephone before Rice's arrival. She also met with Peretz.

Abbas' office said Sunday that the two had canceled the press conference scheduled for after their meeting.

During their phone conversation Saturday, Olmert and Bush discussed the ramifications of the Mecca Agreement, as well as the Iranian nuclear issue.

A source in Jerusalem said that Bush and Olmert "see eye to eye on the need for any future Palestinian government to meet the Quartet's demands."

Bush also spoke with King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, under whose auspices the Mecca Agreement was drafted.

Olmert plans to tell Rice on Sunday that the Mecca Agreement and its implications should be the main topic of discussion at Monday's summit.

According to the government source, Israel will insist that any diplomatic progress be conditioned on the Palestinian unity government not only accepting the Quartet's conditions, but also acting on them. Olmert and Rice will discuss two scenarios - if the PA does accept the Quartet's demands and if it does not.

"We have to think about how to behave if Salam Fayyad, a moderate and acceptable figure, becomes finance minister in a Hamas-led government," the source said. "Israel will not be willing to recognize such a government, even if it includes some moderates."

Another Israeli source added, "In the worst-case scenario, we will boycott the Palestinian unity government, just as we boycotted the Hamas government until now."

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  2.   PA goverment is good enough let Israel accept a Palestine now!!!! 05:00  |  MOE 18/02/07
  3.   GOVT should be considered as the whole body, not as a collection 05:12  |  Vittorio 18/02/07
  4.   What ugly, cretinous women 05:14  |  Mariloyn 18/02/07
  5.   How about 05:21  |  Joshua Anderson 18/02/07
  6.   wolf in wolfs clothing 05:49  |  Bill B 18/02/07
  7.   Palestine went to the thugs 05:51  |  The Barber 18/02/07
  8.   Moe # 2 It`s Not Good Enough 05:59  |  Jeff Northridge 18/02/07
  9.   Normally We Would Accept An Arab Meal Offering As A ... 06:02  |  Lavi 18/02/07
  10.   Marilyn # 4 Dr. Condoleezza Rice 06:30  |  Jeff Northridge 18/02/07
  11.   ARAB POSITION IS STRATEGICALLY STRONGER 06:34  |  indrajaya 18/02/07
  12.   If the Hamas government can`t accept these 06:45  |  Avihu 18/02/07
  13.   Indrajaya # 11 07:05  |  Avrum 18/02/07
  14.   Baruchim HaBayeem Le Geveret Rice! 07:30  |  Lavi 18/02/07
  15.   Coordinated Stance 07:42  |  Marty 18/02/07
  16.   Saudi Plan 07:53  |  Omran 18/02/07
  17.   to maryloin 08:11  |  schmidt 18/02/07
  18.   Nazis negotiated 08:22  |  Rope-a-dope 18/02/07
  19.   excuses are abound 08:52  |  arab 18/02/07
  20.   The United States of Chickens 08:55  |  Sam (UK) 18/02/07
  21.   No surprises here with warmongers running the show! 08:55  |  Deborah 18/02/07
  22.   # MARYLIN SEND YOUR PHOTO YOU MUST BE GORGEOUS 09:16  |  paul harris 18/02/07
  23.   Mouthpiece of Bush 09:47  |  kurt 18/02/07
  24.   MORE HYPOCRISY FROM LIVNI & RICE 10:05  |  Dutch 18/02/07
  25.   to Moe 10:13  |  David G 18/02/07
  26.   YET ANOTHER SCREAMING ALL CAPS 10:16  |  John Mackie 18/02/07
  27.   Hello Herr Schmidt 10:21  |  John Mackie 18/02/07
  28.   # 10 Jeff. Must the Jews also give up their WW2 property claims? 10:22  |  Nick Ferriman 18/02/07
  29.   Mariloin no. 4 10:22  |  Aliza 18/02/07
  30.   Jeff Northridge - "Dr." Rice 10:27  |  John mackie 18/02/07
  31.   Yeh right Jeff. 10:28  |  Marilyn 18/02/07
  32.   All my family were free settlers you cretins 10:31  |  Marilyn 18/02/07
  33.   280 IQ combined: No one can fool those two! 10:42  |  Judith, Haifa 18/02/07
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  35.   Not coordinate but conspiracy 10:47  |  Abu Samra 18/02/07
  36.   Marilyn 10:48  |  Aliza 18/02/07
  37.   # 18 rope-a-dope. Like you, nation states also support genocide. 10:51  |  Nick Ferriman 18/02/07
  38.   I apologize for being Arab 10:58  |  Arab Observer 18/02/07
  39.   # 10 Jeff. The Divine Right of nation states is iniquitous 10:59  |  Nick Ferriman 18/02/07
  40.   #28, Nick Ferriman 11:02  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 18/02/07
  41.   A co-ordinated approach 11:12  |  Clickfool 18/02/07
  42.   The Fate of zionism=inevitable oblivion . 11:16  |  Sam (UK) 18/02/07
  43.   in conclusion.... where`s the beef? 11:18  |  neutral-man 18/02/07
  44.   # 29 Aliza. Your denial of the Holocaust. 11:23  |  Nick Ferriman 18/02/07
  45.   # 30 "JEFF" I WOULDN`T SAY IT BETTER 11:23  |  arab 18/02/07
  46.   # 17 U BANKRUPT 11:26  |  arab 18/02/07
  47.   #10 jeff: READ the history before you babble, you &*%$! 11:26  |  the beholder 18/02/07
  48.   life pollutants 11:31  |  Reed 18/02/07
  49.   # 9 WHAT DO `u" PRESENT IN YOUR PLATE 11:32  |  arab 18/02/07
  50.   #32 how about a photo marylin ?? to compare to the UGLY WOMEN 11:37  |  paul harris 18/02/07
  51.   No. 29 11:44  |  Aliza 18/02/07
  52.   # 40 Cipora. Yes, genocide is a terrible thing. 11:45  |  Nick Ferriman 18/02/07
  53.   PAUL HARRIS. MISOGYNIST FROM QUEENS 11:46  |  John Mackie 18/02/07
  54.   For Paul Harris # 50, on Marilyn 11:47  |  Clickfool 18/02/07
  55.   Anybody reading HairyRetz talkbacks 11:50  |  John Mackie 18/02/07
  56.   #42 THE PROPHET SAM THE ARAB AND DOOM 11:56  |  paul harris 18/02/07
  57.   #27 MACKIE SLAGS OFF HERR SCHMIDT BUT FORGETS 12:00  |  paul harris 18/02/07
  58.   PAUL HARRIS SON LOOKING FOR A DATE! 12:06  |  John Mackie 18/02/07
  59.   56# MR paul harris and the BIBLE 12:14  |  Sam (UK) 18/02/07
  60.   Marilyn Australia 12:14  |  Deep Larynx 18/02/07
  61.   # 52 Aliza. You quote me out of context. Deliberately? 12:23  |  Nick Ferriman 18/02/07
  62.   #59 STRANGE MESSAGE FROM SAM PHYSICS HE SAYS 12:43  |  paul harris 18/02/07
  63.   Leave Australia Marilyn 12:46  |  Matong 18/02/07
  64.   We Are Dead Wrong 13:03  |  Markus 18/02/07
  65.   #10 Jeff Northridge 13:39  |  Boycott 18/02/07
  66.   # 64 Markus. I agree with your comments. 13:49  |  Nick Ferriman 18/02/07
  67.   To all of you ... 14:01  |  Hami 18/02/07
  68.   Boycott 14:03  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 18/02/07
  69.   Moe 14:05  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 18/02/07
  70.   MARYLIN Cretinous?? PhD,professor,pianist.Jelous are you? 14:08  |  PETERSM 18/02/07
  71.   Abbas and his People`s Future 14:14  |  Ronnie Wolman 18/02/07
  72.   "When are you going to give back Sydney and Melbourne?" 14:14  |  René Fries 18/02/07
  73.   Over playing their hands 14:21  |  John Mackie 18/02/07
  74.   I`m With Hami - Cut it Out! 14:32  |  Jane 18/02/07
  75.   What on earth do the Palestinians have to lose.....?? 14:34  |  Swiss (Dino) 18/02/07
  76.   #70, PETER SM 14:35  |  Fritz 18/02/07
  77.   Rene 14:40  |  Aliza 18/02/07
  78.   John Mackie - The Difference is Huge 14:51  |  Jane 18/02/07
  79.   MARYLIN &MACKIE.Personal attacks on Dr Rice to avoid obligations 14:54  |  PETER SM 18/02/07
  80.   offer the hamas this 14:57  |  Kees 18/02/07
  81.   Why Should Palestinians Accept A Aparthied Regime 14:57  |  Abe 18/02/07
  82.   Mendacity! 14:58  |  Ernie 18/02/07
  83.   Israel saved from peace again 14:59  |  whizbang 18/02/07
  84.   Dear Aliza 15:01  |  R. Fries 18/02/07
  85.   arab observer 15:03  |  bev 18/02/07
  86.   FRITZ 15:06  |  Peter S.M. 18/02/07
  87.   #79. Why? Because..... 15:09  |  John Mackie 18/02/07
  88.   Matong read more before you speak 15:11  |  Alex from Perth, WA 18/02/07
  89.   haaretz as reached an all time low 15:11  |  bev 18/02/07
  90.   Swiss(dino).What to lose?Plenty if peace is not the end point. 15:13  |  PETER SM 18/02/07
  91.   ABE. Palestinians already have an Apartheid regime. 15:17  |  PETERSM 18/02/07
  92.   #73 GAULEITER MACKIE WARNUNG GEBEN 15:18  |  paul harris 18/02/07
  93.   The impossible dream! 15:20  |  Avi 18/02/07
  94.   Spare us these cheesy, phoney photographs 15:22  |  Clickfool 18/02/07
  95.   For Swiss (Dino) # 75 15:27  |  Clickfool 18/02/07
  96.   R. Fries - I am glad we reached an understanding 15:32  |  Aliza 18/02/07
  97.   For Paul Harris # 92 15:35  |  Clickfool 18/02/07
  98.   ALEX.Twit??Jews have been in there for thousands of years. 15:43  |  PETER SM 18/02/07
  99.   # 90 Peter SM 15:45  |  Swiss (Dino) 18/02/07
  100.   #75 swiss 15:48  |  duncan 18/02/07
  101.   An Ode TO Israeli leftists 15:50  |  Gabe1 18/02/07
  102.   Article 15:52  |  Asbefore 18/02/07
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  104.   #99 swiss 15:55  |  duncan 18/02/07
  105.   #86, PETER SM - Polite Enemies. 15:57  |  Fritz 18/02/07
  106.   # 4 Ugly MARILYN...ancestors out of prison 16:00  |  The Equalizer 18/02/07
  107.   # 4 Marilyn 16:03  |  Lynn 18/02/07
  108.   # 64 Markus 16:08  |  Lynn 18/02/07
  109.   # 95 Clickfool The big picture 16:09  |  Swiss (Dino) 18/02/07
  110.   Swiss 16:13  |  Lynn 18/02/07
  111.   #101 Gabe1 - If you attack Danite 16:16  |  Yonatan 18/02/07
  112.   Relative Interest - a football analogy 16:21  |  John Mackie 18/02/07
  113.   #109 swiss 16:22  |  duncan 18/02/07
  114.   # 100 / # 104 duncan What is a statement worth...?? 16:23  |  Swiss (Dino) 18/02/07
  115.   #1 Simon; the US won`t turn its back 16:25  |  ballistic 18/02/07
  116.   Jane #74 16:25  |  Gabe1 18/02/07
  117.   #2 Yeah for you Moe 16:26  |  ballistic 18/02/07
  118.   #4 Marilyn; read your post, yessiree 16:28  |  ballistic 18/02/07
  119.   # 109 Clickfool 16:28  |  Swiss (Dino) 18/02/07
  120.   # 112 John Mackie...bored...nothing better to do?? 16:31  |  The Equalizer 18/02/07
  121.   John Mackie - Good, Then Go Watch Football 16:31  |  Jane 18/02/07
  122.   #7 Thugs???!! 16:32  |  ballistic 18/02/07
  123.   Peace? Ha! 16:32  |  R 18/02/07
  124.   # 110 Lynn 16:34  |  Swiss (Dino) 18/02/07
  125.   Why not recognise? 16:34  |  John Mackie 18/02/07
  126.   For Dino # 109 16:34  |  Clickfool 18/02/07
  127.   #10 Jeff; I don`t know about being 16:36  |  ballistic 18/02/07
  128.   #13 Avrum; don`t bet on China 16:18  |  ballistic 18/02/07
  129.   Abbas should resign and allow for new elections in PA or dissolve 16:40  |  richie 18/02/07
  130.   #29 Aliza; see all UN general assembly 16:46  |  ballistic 18/02/07
  131.   Reply to 91 16:48  |  Abe 18/02/07
  132.   Dear Jane 16:52  |  John Mackie 18/02/07
  133.   #57 Paul Harris---speaking of slave trade 16:55  |  ballistic 18/02/07
  134.   #128. EXCELLENT analysis 16:56  |  John Mackie 18/02/07
  135.   # 124 Swiss 16:58  |  Lynn 18/02/07
  136.   #77 Aliza--issue here is zionist 17:03  |  ballistic 18/02/07
  137.   #81 Abe; good post, enjoyed it 17:06  |  ballistic 18/02/07
  138.   #114 swiss 17:06  |  duncan 18/02/07
  139.   # 126 Clickfool Hope, the last resort of mankind.... 17:10  |  Swiss (Dino) 18/02/07
  140.   More tosh from Aluf Benn 17:10  |  Kenneth Brown 18/02/07
  141.   John Mackie 17:12  |  Lynn 18/02/07
  142.   to #17 17:19  |  bill 18/02/07
  143.   Dear Lynn, 141 17:22  |  John Mackie 18/02/07
  144.   The Holocaust denier as a peace angel 17:24  |  Jonathan S 18/02/07
  145.   Negotiations 17:27  |  Daniel 18/02/07
  146.   64: Markus` strange definition of "moderate" 17:28  |  David Teich 18/02/07
  147.   #133 ballistic cracks another joke HOWEVER ITS UNFUNNY 17:28  |  paul harris 18/02/07
  148.   #98 Jews there for thousands of years 17:30  |  ballistic 18/02/07
  149.   to Mr Clickfool.....OK it is an occupied arab land...and? 17:30  |  soldier 18/02/07
  150.   #68 Margie in Tel Aviv 17:31  |  Boycott 18/02/07
  151.   # 138 duncan 17:33  |  Swiss (Dino) 18/02/07
  152.   126: CF is as backwards as usual 17:33  |  David Teich 18/02/07
  153.   # 128 ballistic 17:35  |  Lynn 18/02/07
  154.   #148 I HAVE TOLD YOU THE ANSWER MANY TIMES BALLISTIC 17:39  |  paul harris 18/02/07
  155.   Boycott 17:41  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 18/02/07
  156.   ...to Marilyn...Why you don`t come to visit us... 17:43  |  The 71... 18/02/07
  157.   Hey Jeff Northridge from California 17:44  |  Lebanese in Canada 18/02/07
  158.   US and Israel continue to dictate terms of Palestinian government 17:45  |  Dav 18/02/07
  159.   Nick Ferriman # 39 Your Questions 17:46  |  Jeff Northridge 18/02/07
  160.   #153 Lynn, how was I incorrect about 17:47  |  ballistic 18/02/07
  161.   Overcooked rice............ 17:49  |  Guss 18/02/07
  162.   #147 Hey Paul Harris; if you knew what 17:51  |  ballistic 18/02/07
  163.   What`ll she bitch about? 17:51  |  Vlad 18/02/07
  164.   Rice: The true face of Bush administration 17:52  |  Sara 18/02/07
  165.   Judgement on the PA 17:53  |  iLetzter 18/02/07
  166.   #154 Hey Paul--I did look up the question 17:54  |  ballistic 18/02/07
  167.   # 112 John Mackie.. 17:54  |  Kath` 18/02/07
  168.   for #54 "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" 17:55  |  Ari ben Yisrael 18/02/07
  169.   WHAT`S YOUR POINT PAUL `ARRIS 17:55  |  John MAckie 18/02/07
  170.   #24.Oh,Dutch!Oh,Doris: We cannot fulfil the instruction #24 17:57  |  People of the World 18/02/07
  171.   Clickfool where are you,leave hatred at home and came to dance 17:58  |  soldier 18/02/07
  172.   # 146 David Teich Everything for the "cat"..... 17:59  |  Swiss (Dino) 18/02/07
  173.   #169 MACKIE AT THE GUINNESS AGAIN 18:00  |  paul harris 18/02/07
  174.   To all the blond Israeli Jews. 18:02  |  John Mackie 18/02/07
  175.   #158 Dav--don`t always go by what they "say" 18:02  |  ballistic 18/02/07
  176.   to #101 7 his "psychology 101" LOL 18:03  |  Ari ben Yisrael 18/02/07
  177.   Clickfool...we are very worried... 18:05  |  abraham...mico 18/02/07
  178.   #85 Mackie Re; Circumcision in Africa 18:06  |  * BEN J ABO 18/02/07
  179.   #162/166 THE IRRELEVANT BALLISTIC CANNOT KEEP STILL 18:08  |  paul harris 18/02/07
  180.   Ballistic - Look up who the slave traders were 18:08  |  Ibn Musa 18/02/07
  181.   hi Kaff` 18:11  |  John Mackie 18/02/07
  182.   Hurry up! It`s happy hour 18:16  |  John Mackie 18/02/07
  183.   ballistic # 127 The U.S. Secretary of State 18:19  |  Jeff Northridge 18/02/07
  184.   #179 Hey Paul; glad you drink real coffee 18:20  |  ballistic 18/02/07
  185.   #174 mackie have you ever heard of DNA TESTING 18:21  |  paul harris 18/02/07
  186.   #Uh oh, uh oh, John Mackie; I do 18:28  |  ballistic 18/02/07
  187.   The Saudis are in no position to be making demands.? 18:29  |  John Mackie 18/02/07
  188.   #177 Abraham 18:31  |  ballistic 18/02/07
  189.   #180 Ibn-read your post 18:32  |  ballistic 18/02/07
  190.   DNA testing of Palestinians and Jews 18:33  |  John Mackie 18/02/07
  191.   #184 MORE IRRELEVANT NONSENSE FROM BALLISTIC 18:36  |  paul harris 18/02/07
  192.   paul harris # 57 18:36  |  dubious 18/02/07
  193.   Israel was taken without permission 18:37  |  Marilyn 18/02/07
  194.   #183 Hi Jeff 18:38  |  ballistic 18/02/07
  195.   #155 Margie in Tel Aviv 18:40  |  Boycott 18/02/07
  196.   peter sm # 70 18:40  |  dubious 18/02/07
  197.   #185 Paul; you need to stop lying sometimes 18:41  |  ballistic 18/02/07
  198.   duncan - Likud Platform 18:43  |  Ernie 18/02/07
  199.   paul harris # 146 18:45  |  dubious 18/02/07
  200.   ballistic. 186. 18:45  |  John Mackie 18/02/07
  201.   John Mackie: On Aryans care about looks,Jews care about Soul 18:48  |  Ronnie Wolman 18/02/07
  202.   # 144 Jonathon 18:50  |  Nick Ferriman 18/02/07
  203.   More Tire Tracks 18:51  |  Mark Lincoln 18/02/07
  204.   Great Quotations from History 18:54  |  John Mackie 18/02/07
  205.   #187 John Mackie 18:56  |  ballistic 18/02/07
  206.   For David Teich, who liked the 1947 UN proposals # 152 18:58  |  Clickfool 18/02/07
  207.   # 189 - Ballistic 18:59  |  Ibn Musa 18/02/07
  208.   Marilyn :"The good settler" 19:01  |  Danite 18/02/07
  209.   John Mackie # 174 Some Jews Are Semites 19:03  |  Jeff Northridge 18/02/07
  210.   The pompous John mackie 19:03  |  danite 18/02/07
  211.   For Abraham - mico # 177 19:03  |  Clickfool 18/02/07
  212.   No civil war equals no progress. 19:03  |  richard 18/02/07
  213.   Yonatan "From one Zionist war pig to another" 19:06  |  Danite 18/02/07
  214.   Let`s ignore Paul Harris - Why? 19:09  |  John Mackie 18/02/07
  215.   John Mackie - Fed Up When? In 1945 perhaps... 19:10  |  Jane 18/02/07
  216.   #190 Uh oh, uh oh; John Mackie 19:11  |  ballistic 18/02/07
  217.   #198 "eternal and indisputable" 19:12  |  ballistic 18/02/07
  218.   Israel Was Taken Without Permission (Marilyn`s!) 19:13  |  Jane 18/02/07
  219.   #201 Ronnie; any response to the issue 19:16  |  ballistic 18/02/07
  220.   Hello Ronnie. The Soul, huh? 19:19  |  John Mackie 18/02/07
  221.   John mackie The Hypocrite 19:19  |  Danite 18/02/07
  222.   For John Mackie, on use of caps 19:24  |  Clickfool 18/02/07
  223.   # 182 John Mackie. PREPARED A RESPONSE,THEN LOST IT.. 19:24  |  Kath` 18/02/07
  224.   My beliefs Boycott 19:25  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 18/02/07
  225.   Danite. On pomposity 19:29  |  John Mackie 18/02/07
  226.   #198 Ernie 19:37  |  Racon-tour 18/02/07
  227.   #209 Accept converts? 19:37  |  ballistic 18/02/07
  228.   # 159 Jeff Northridge 19:39  |  Nick Ferriman 18/02/07
  229.   Hi Ballistic. 19:39  |  John Mackie 18/02/07
  230.   TO John Mackie #204 19:41  |  Persian Kitty 18/02/07
  231.   John Mackie: Nefesh and Northampton Town 19:42  |  Ronnie Wolman 18/02/07
  232.   I ask all Israelis on this forum: What should the Pals. do? 19:43  |  Karam 18/02/07
  233.   I ask all Israelis on this forum: What should the Pals. do? 19:43  |  Karam 18/02/07
  234.   #210 Danite 19:43  |  ballistic 18/02/07
  235.   RE: "Mariloyn" and the "cretinous" thread 19:47  |  Dov 18/02/07
  236.   Ballistic: Real Americans and Real Brits 19:47  |  Ronnie Wolman 18/02/07
  237.   hi Kaff` 19:49  |  JohnnyBoy Mackie 18/02/07
  238.   #229 Hi there John Mackie 19:50  |  ballistic 18/02/07
  239.   Religious Solution 19:51  |  Matthew Houston 18/02/07
  240.   Appoint Israelis to New Hamas Government 19:52  |  Glenn 18/02/07
  241.   Dear Persian Kitty 19:55  |  John MAckie 18/02/07
  242.   John Mackie # 187 The Saudis Don`t Have It All 19:56  |  Jeff Northridge 18/02/07
  243.   Hey Doll 19:56  |  Ernie 18/02/07
  244.   To John Mackie 19:58  |  Alberto Cohen 18/02/07
  245.   # 214 John Mackie.re: Paul Harris. PLEASE DO NOT JUDGE... 19:59  |  Kath` 18/02/07
  246.   RonnieBoy. Answer the question 19:59  |  John Mackie 18/02/07
  247.   TO John Mackie 20:00  |  Persian Kitty 18/02/07
  248.   #236 Ronnie; come on Ronnie, you 20:02  |  ballistic 18/02/07
  249.   #125 Herr mackie and poetic license 20:07  |  Dov 18/02/07
  250.   Religious solution? (oops!) 20:08  |  John Mackie. 18/02/07
  251.   A gathering of antisemites 20:10  |  Gertie Cohen 18/02/07
  252.   Racon-tour 20:12  |  Ernie 18/02/07
  253.   ballistic has lost all credibility 20:13  |  Danite 18/02/07
  254.   To the improbably named "Alberto Cohen" 20:14  |  jOhN mAcKieEEEEE!!!* 18/02/07
  255.   John Mackie: Ive Been a Jew since I can remember 20:14  |  Ronnie Wolman 18/02/07
  256.   Jane and phone calls to marilyn 20:16  |  Danite 18/02/07
  257.   Kaff` Baby 20:17  |  John Mackie. 18/02/07
  258.   To Kath re: PAUL HARRIS 20:24  |  Persian Kitty 18/02/07
  259.   # 221 Danite.re:John Mackie.The Hypocrite?AND... 20:25  |  Kath` 18/02/07
  260.   Margie in aparthied would be a cute name for you 20:28  |  Tamir Gaza 18/02/07
  261.   Mackie: Youve been good for us 20:31  |  Ronnie Wolman 18/02/07
  262.   Israel and US in accord//// 20:33  |  Joe 18/02/07
  263.   Act One, Scene One 20:34  |  Ramez 18/02/07
  264.   Mackie: Oh the Shark Babe has such teeth dear and he shows them.. 20:38  |  Ronnie Wolman 18/02/07
  265.   258. Persian Kitty and Kath 20:40  |  KUTW 18/02/07
  266.   a postcard from Israel 20:40  |  Laura 18/02/07
  267.   #253 Khazars; come on Danite, lose credibility? 20:42  |  ballistic 18/02/07
  268.   To Kath re Racial Purity 20:45  |  Perrsian Kitty 18/02/07
  269.   To John Mackie 20:46  |  Alberto Cohen 18/02/07
  270.   ...to Clickfool#211...are you comunist? 20:50  |  abraham...mico 18/02/07
  271.   # 257 John Mackie.HELOOO....... 20:51  |  Kath` 18/02/07
  272.   Ronnie - nefesh 20:52  |  John Mackie 18/02/07
  273.   To KUTW #266 20:54  |  Persian Kitty 18/02/07
  274.   KUTW 20:54  |  John Mackie. 18/02/07
  275.   Hey Doll 21:00  |  Ernie 18/02/07
  276.   Ronnie. don`t make assumptions 21:01  |  John Mackie 18/02/07
  277.   # 266 KUTW .re:Paul`s uppercase posts... 21:02  |  Kath` 18/02/07
  278.   mackie 21:04  |  schmidt 18/02/07
  279.   Nick Ferriman # 228 OK, I`ll Try 21:16  |  Jeff Northridge 18/02/07
  280.   Rice...what a joke 21:26  |  Realist 18/02/07
  281.   #200 John Mackie 21:32  |  ballistic 18/02/07
  282.   #271, Kath* 21:33  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 18/02/07
  283.   # 143 John 21:34  |  Lynn 18/02/07
  284.   John Mackie: We are all part of the Light 21:35  |  Ronnie Wolman 18/02/07
  285.   ...to Karam...good question... 21:39  |  soldier 18/02/07
  286.   # 268 Persian Kitty 21:41  |  Lynn 18/02/07
  287.   THE BEST DEAL WE COULD GET 21:45  |  Bimmer 18/02/07
  288.   reply to Ballistic, 137 21:46  |  Abe 18/02/07
  289.   John Mackie if you dont exist 21:47  |  Ronnie Wolman 18/02/07
  290.   You`ve Got To Love It! 21:54  |  Jeff Northridge 18/02/07
  291.   # 272 John Mackie.re:Ronnie -nefesh 21:55  |  Kath` 18/02/07
  292.   re: #8 Jef Northridge 21:56  |  John 18/02/07
  293.   to Karam#232..to take what the USA offer them...a State... 22:03  |  Dumbite 18/02/07
  294.   For Nick Ferriman about medieval mullahs 22:09  |  Jonathan S 18/02/07
  295.   Do to others as you want done to you. 22:25  |  Billy Jack 18/02/07
  296.   ...to Indrajaya#11...and in the mean time put your blood 22:26  |  UGY the she camel 18/02/07
  297.   RE to Barber 22:29  |  Billy Jack 18/02/07
  298.   #224 Margie in Tel Aviv 22:33  |  Boycott 18/02/07
  299.   Jeff Northridge - More like "take Mecca and shove it" 22:34  |  Jane 18/02/07
  300.   #266 Well, Laura, I am resigned to the 22:37  |  ballistic 18/02/07
  301.   Kath: The Kaballistic Version of Nefesh 22:44  |  Ronnie Wolman 18/02/07
  302.   #280 Realist 22:47  |  ballistic 18/02/07
  303.   Billy Jack: Safed is not Sedona 22:48  |  Ronnie Wolman 18/02/07
  304.   Withdrawal 23:00  |  Roberta 18/02/07
  305.   #282 Cipora 23:04  |  ballistic 18/02/07
  306.   No joint press conference is planned for afterward 23:07  |  vik 18/02/07
  307.   #299 What the matter with Hamas; 23:15  |  ballistic 18/02/07
  308.   ballistic 23:16  |  Danite 18/02/07
  309.   ballistic 23:16  |  Danite 18/02/07
  310.   demilitarize gaza strip first 23:18  |  Bill b 18/02/07
  311.   Yonathan #111- Part UNE 23:21  |  Gabe1 18/02/07
  312.   Dear Ronnie Rubbish 23:26  |  Yael 18/02/07
  313.   posting 300 23:40  |  Laura 18/02/07
  314.   Dear ronnie rubbish 23:45  |  Yael 18/02/07
  315.   Ronnie Wolman 23:47  |  Danite 18/02/07
  316.   US friends of Israels enemies 23:48  |  Bill b 18/02/07
  317.   John Mackie 23:50  |  Danite 18/02/07
  318.   # 225 John Mackie.re:Danite. WOW,AT LAST MACKIE..... 23:57  |  Kath` 18/02/07
  319.   #302 23:59  |  Realist 18/02/07
  320.   #187 - John Mackie - Saudi Oil 00:04  |  * BEN JABO 19/02/07
  321.   # 290 Jeff Northridge. You`ve Got To Love it!! 00:05  |  Kath` 19/02/07
  322.   Clarify last part of Comment,No 288 00:07  |  Abe 19/02/07
  323.   WHO is a Jew?Are all who were converted by the sword Moslems? 00:11  |  PETER SM 19/02/07
  324.   Nefesh and its "grades" A higher"spiritual level"is assigned to- 00:15  |  Peter S.M. 19/02/07
  325.   308 00:19  |  Danite 19/02/07
  326.   #309 Danite--google Khazars; you 00:21  |  ballistic 19/02/07
  327.   #305, ballistic 00:27  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 19/02/07
  328.   #13 Hi Laura; read your post 00:28  |  ballistic 19/02/07
  329.   they say something and do another thing 00:28  |  Joseph E . 19/02/07
  330.   Jane of Palm Beach 00:39  |  Gabe1 19/02/07
  331.   #232 KARAM & 1001 ARABIAN NIGHTS 00:47  |  gabriel 19/02/07
  332.   #237, well at current rates of population growth 00:50  |  Danny - Israeli one 19/02/07
  333.   To judge Israel on whether it kick jews out of J`lem/Silwan 00:54  |  Joseph E . 19/02/07
  334.   ballistic 01:09  |  Lynn 19/02/07
  335.   # 300 ballistic 01:14  |  Lynn 19/02/07
  336.   mussolini and hitler said their were not corrupt. 01:21  |  mb 19/02/07
  337.   Pack your bags 01:35  |  Baz Mann 19/02/07
  338.   John # 292 So, What Else Is New? 01:40  |  Jeff Northridge 19/02/07
  339.   #6 Bill B - one more "no more` 01:45  |  dana 19/02/07
  340.   ballistic #160 Re Lynn - it`s Russia and China and oil 01:59  |  dana 19/02/07
  341.   John mackie has no answer 02:03  |  Danite 19/02/07
  342.   ballistic "the new Khazar scholar" 02:06  |  Danite 19/02/07
  343.   Jane # 299 Hamas 02:06  |  Jeff Northridge 19/02/07
  344.   Lynn #153 - what you say is wishful thinking 02:14  |  dana 19/02/07
  345.   # 201 Ronnie Wolman. SORRY FOR THE DELAY.. 02:17  |  Kath` 19/02/07
  346.   John Mackie #169 - Trying to figure out Paul Harris` 02:21  |  dana 19/02/07
  347.   ballistic - 281 02:24  |  John Mackie 19/02/07
  348.   Arab observer, grow up 02:27  |  Tulip 19/02/07
  349.   Danite #210 - Be nice now... 02:27  |  dana 19/02/07
  350.   Roberta # 304 What `67 Borders? 02:28  |  Jeff Northridge 19/02/07
  351.   Nefesh ha Elokis?????????? 02:29  |  Tulip 19/02/07
  352.   Ballistic regarding danite #253 - I protest! 02:39  |  dana 19/02/07
  353.   # 305 ballistic 02:41  |  Lynn 19/02/07
  354.   dana the pompous 02:46  |  Danite 19/02/07
  355.   Who is the enemy in Arab politics?. Al Jazeera today- 02:56  |  PETER SM 19/02/07
  356.   # 227 ballistic 02:58  |  Lynn 19/02/07
  357.   Jeff-Who Said Anything About Talking to Them? 02:59  |  Jane 19/02/07
  358.   Danite - you know you shouldn`t provide me with more adjectives 03:06  |  dana 19/02/07
  359.   Dana #346 03:18  |  Gabe1 19/02/07
  360.   dana and the russian jews 03:24  |  Danite 19/02/07
  361.   Question to all - where is Natalie Durson? seriously 03:25  |  dana 19/02/07
  362.   Well Ballisitc? 03:26  |  Danite 19/02/07
  363.   # 335 Thank you Dana 03:28  |  Lynn 19/02/07
  364.   # 193 Marilyn 03:30  |  Lynn 19/02/07
  365.   To all "Talmud scholars" 03:43  |  Danite 19/02/07
  366.   # 335 dana 03:51  |  Lynn 19/02/07
  367.   323 Ballistic? 03:53  |  Laura 19/02/07
  368.   lets stick to the topic 04:05  |  BillB 19/02/07
  369.   PA gov`t has failed on many levels 04:16  |  Bill B 19/02/07
  370.   suicide bombers are ok dana? 04:23  |  Bill b 19/02/07
  371.   Re ronnie wolman 04:27  |  Billy Jack 19/02/07
  372.   Re Sam(UK) #42 about fate of zionism 04:33  |  Bruce 19/02/07
  373.   Lynn - This was the response to your post - 2nd try 04:43  |  dana 19/02/07
  374.   Danite 05:00  |  Lynn 19/02/07
  375.   dana 05:03  |  Lynn 19/02/07
  376.   Ballistic 05:23  |  Danite 19/02/07
  377.   193 Marilyn, Israel`s Crimes against the Palestinians 05:26  |  Dutch 19/02/07
  378.   dana 05:26  |  Danite 19/02/07
  379.   # 355 Peter SM 05:54  |  Lynn 19/02/07
  380.   #193 Marilyn`s making things up AGAIN 06:37  |  * BEN JABO 19/02/07
  381.   #370 Bill b - a correction if you please 06:43  |  * BEN JABO 19/02/07
  382.   #327 Family 07:33  |  ballistic 19/02/07
  383.   #333 Which post are you talking about 07:36  |  ballistic 19/02/07
  384.   #335 Lynn; I don`t question Laura`s 07:40  |  ballistic 19/02/07
  385.   #340 Dana at their peril 07:45  |  ballistic 19/02/07
  386.   #342 Danite; what has that got to do 07:50  |  ballistic 19/02/07
  387.   #347 John Mackie; I sure hope you 07:56  |  ballistic 19/02/07
  388.   #356 Lynn; we are talking apples and oranges 08:06  |  ballistic 19/02/07
  389.   Never will destroy Hamas/Hezbollah 08:08  |  ballistic 19/02/07
  390.   #367 Laura; yes, the name probably 08:30  |  ballistic 19/02/07
  391.   Re: Marilyn "All my family were free settlers you cretins" 08:42  |  People of the World 19/02/07
  392.   EVEN ALBRIGHT WOULD LAUGH 08:45  |  indrajaya 19/02/07
  393.   #199 DUBIOUS AND WRONGS IS IT A CHINESE TAKEOUT 08:46  |  paul harris 19/02/07
  394.   #332 Danny--Israel won`t be there in 150 09:04  |  ballistic 19/02/07
  395.   To Yonatan re #311`s ignorant arrogance 09:43  |  Ari ben Yisrael 19/02/07
  396.   #388 BALLISTIC IS ANEW SPECIES A MOUTH WITHOUT ABRAIN 09:44  |  paul harris 19/02/07
  397.   Lynn again #363, 366, 375, 153 - now what got into you? 09:49  |  dana 19/02/07
  398.   ballistic - did you notice thinner than tempers this week end? 09:52  |  dana 19/02/07
  399.   Lynn - one more possibility 09:59  |  dana 19/02/07
  400.   It`s unconscionable to extend this boycott 10:02  |  Dutch 19/02/07
  401.   Bill B - what disputed territory? 10:04  |  dana 19/02/07
  402.   Bill and BEN JABO 10:10  |  dana 19/02/07
  403.   #370 Bill B and "disputed territory" 10:52  |  Johnboy 19/02/07
  404.   172: Strange Dino, can`t discuss facts. 13:09  |  David Teich 19/02/07
  405.   206: CF still inventing questions to answer 13:15  |  David Teich 19/02/07
  406.   232: Karim, can you be honest and answer the real questions? 13:19  |  David Teich 19/02/07
  407.   403: JB and the "repeat it enough maybe it`ll become true" 13:22  |  David Teich