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Israel, U.S. begin discussions on renewal of foreign aid package
By Shmuel Rosner, Haaretz Correspondent

Israeli officials have been discussing over the past few months how much financial aid Israel should request from the United States in the coming years.

The issue has come up for initial discussions with the Bush administration, and will be raised again at a meeting in Washington next month. Prime Minister Ehud Olmert is due to make the final decision on the matter.

The Bush administration this week asked Congress for $2.4 billion in financial aid for Israeli security needs, the highest amount possible under America's current agreement with Israel.
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The financial aid issue is on the table once again because the previous agreement expires this budgetary year, after being in effect for a decade.

As prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu said in 1997 that Israel was interested in reducing, to the point of eliminating, the American funds allocated for civilian purposes in Israel. The agreement reached at the time gradually altered the structure of the assistance. At the time, Israel was receiving $3 billion, of which $1.2 billion was allocated for civilian purposes.

Under the new arrangement, it was agreed that $120 million would be cut from the overall aid package every year, while the funds allocated for security purposes would increase by $60 million. As the agreement comes to an end, the civilian aid no longer exists and the security aid amounts to $2.4 billion.

Initial talks on a new financial aid package indicate that both the American and Israeli governments are interested in renewing the aid in an "orderly manner," as one person familiar with the issue put it, rather than returning to the system whereby Israel has to renew its aid request every year.

Israel needs to make a decision on whether to renew a request for civil assistance, and whether to ask for the current level of security assistance on a long-term basis or request more funding for the security challenges Israel faces.

Several officials told Haaretz that Israel has not made a final decision on these issues, although some said they had reservations about the return of civilian funding. One official noted that the outcome "will have strategic importance," not just on the economic level, but also regarding Israel-U.S. relations. The matter has recently been discussed at the defense and foreign ministries.

The Foreign Ministry convened a group of external experts, including former Israeli ambassadors to the U.S. Zalman Shoval and David Ivri, a few weeks ago to discuss some of the issues related to bilateral relations. The participants agreed that the Bush administration has been one of the friendliest to Israel and that there is an advantage to making agreements with U.S. President George W. Bush before he is replaced by someone else.

Israel also views the newly elected Congress as being friendly, and Israeli officials plan to request meetings with House and Senate leaders from both parties once Israel decides on the financial aid questions, in an effort to reach an agreement that is acceptable to Congress. Financial aid requests related to Israel that are submitted to Congress by the administration are generally approved without a problem, due in part to agreements reached ahead of time with congressional members.

Olmert will make the final decision on Israel's position after consulting with the heads of the defense and foreign ministries. The Defense Ministry, the primary recipient of security aid, has been asked to come up with estimates of Israeli security needs and how much funding they will require. An Israeli official said the Finance Ministry is also involved in some of the preliminary talks.
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  1.   No Funds Until Settlements are Gone 04:49  |  Harris 08/02/07
  2.   cash is allways better than credit 04:58  |  zionist forever 08/02/07
  3.   Expand Jewish Settlement 05:51  |  Steve 08/02/07
  4.   US money transferred to Israel effectively work for SECURITY, 05:58  |  Vittorio 08/02/07
  5.   Assistance agreement 06:34  |  Shmuelshachor 08/02/07
  6.   funding will be based on iran`s tests of cia low uranium nukes. 06:35  |  Mat Tonkin 08/02/07
  7.   Payola 07:29  |  Gordon 08/02/07
  8.   `financial aid` 07:40  |  james 08/02/07
  9.   The Bucks Stop Here 07:44  |  J Olsen 08/02/07
  10.   There should be conditions for aid 07:46  |  RW 08/02/07
  11.   Extortion money 07:52  |  Janet 08/02/07
  12.   wasting American tax payers money 07:53  |  SJ 08/02/07
  13.   To #12 Yes U.S. should send money to Wahabis around the world 08:18  |  Tom 08/02/07
  14.   ENOUGH!!!!!!!! Just GO AWAY 08:54  |  Holden 08/02/07
  15.   #14, Holden 09:16  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 08/02/07
  16.   J Olsen 09:21  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 08/02/07
  17.   Israel needs to get off the smack, it has become a junky!!!! 09:30  |  Ben Uziel 08/02/07
  18.   Israel pan-handling again? 09:37  |  John 08/02/07
  19.   #18 - Yes, Egypt 09:50  |  NL 08/02/07
  20.   I wondered when the panhandlers would arrive in Washington 10:08  |  Clickfool 08/02/07
  21.   Olmert`s greed for money 10:24  |  Joseph E . Post 1 08/02/07
  22.   Olmert`s greed for money 10:25  |  Joseph E . 08/02/07
  23.   Schnorrers 10:36  |  hmmmmmm 08/02/07
  24.   Us owes the Jews 10:52  |  un-pc 08/02/07
  25.   Reducing civilians pkg & increasing mltry pkg 11:29  |  Mary 08/02/07
  26.   # 24 un-pc 11:34  |  Mary 08/02/07
  27.   #18 It is hard to wean oneself from 11:47  |  ballistic 08/02/07
  28.   #24 one other thing; what about 11:56  |  ballistic 08/02/07
  29.   Thats why there is building work at Al Asqa 12:24  |  Chris Linthwaite 08/02/07
  30.   shame of the world 12:34  |  un-pc 08/02/07
  31.   we would be better off without the money 13:15  |  flashman 08/02/07
  32.   ballistic on the jews 13:19  |  em-arse 08/02/07
  33.   is ballistic trailer trash 13:20  |  jeez 08/02/07
  34.   #30 un-pc 13:39  |  Chris Linthwaite 08/02/07
  35.   Israel Helps The USA In Ways Some Folks Don`t Understand! 14:02  |  Yosemite 08/02/07
  36.   un-pc please clarify 14:24  |  Skandar 08/02/07
  37.   Enjoy the handout while you can 14:26  |  spyguy 08/02/07
  38.   "Aid to Egypt" is actually aid to Israel -- MORE aid to Israel 14:42  |  U.S. interests FIRST 08/02/07
  39.   # 30 un-pc 15:01  |  Mary 08/02/07
  40.   There is no problem with U.S. aid to Israel..... 15:06  |  Swiss (Dino) 08/02/07
  41.   Very Kind of America 15:07  |  Alicia 08/02/07
  42.   Why are we a nation of beggers? 15:20  |  H.Niedermeyer 08/02/07
  43.   #38 - why the bluff? 15:23  |  Spongebob 08/02/07
  44.   US is Israels greatest ally ....for now.$$$ will NOT stop 15:30  |  albert amato 08/02/07
  45.   spyguy "HOW WILL ISRAEL SURVIVE" 15:32  |  harzion 08/02/07
  46.   spyguy "the end is nigh" 15:34  |  harzion 08/02/07
  47.   spyguy "high paying manufacturing jobs 15:37  |  harzion 08/02/07
  48.   spyguy finally i do agree with you 15:38  |  harzion 08/02/07
  49.   spyguy "how will israel survive" 15:40  |  harzion 08/02/07
  50.   #33 trailer trash are sometimes EDUCATED ! BALLISTIC 15:51  |  paul harris 08/02/07
  51.   Keep sending us US tax-dollars! 15:59  |  Chaim 08/02/07
  52.   #37 MORE PIE IN THE SKY FROM SPYGUY 15:59  |  paul harris 08/02/07
  53.   But OK for Israel to give her enemies... 16:00  |  Morris K. 08/02/07
  54.   Spongebob: "Aid to Egypt" is actually MORE to Israel 16:10  |  U.S. Interests FIRST 08/02/07
  55.   We have no business supporting ANY Holy war. 16:23  |  T A Sheppard 08/02/07
  56.   houdy mary, @26 16:27  |  vladimir 08/02/07
  57.   @26, mary and i am against amer. aid to israel 16:29  |  vladimir 08/02/07
  58.   flashman #31 16:32  |  us citizen 08/02/07
  59.   We need to stop supporting Israel`s 16:35  |  Amer Rica 08/02/07
  60.   First things first with this US aid 16:39  |  Yaakov Sullivan 08/02/07
  61.   # 41 Alicia 16:41  |  Lynn 08/02/07
  62.   # 28 ballistic 16:44  |  Lynn 08/02/07
  63.   #30 what a crock of victom crap you spew! 16:44  |  T A Sheppard 08/02/07
  64.   # 36 skandar 16:48  |  Lynn 08/02/07
  65.   I am tired of this crap! 16:49  |  BwanaVic 08/02/07
  66.   u s citizen and vassal state. 16:52  |  flashman 08/02/07
  67.   u s citizen a great part of the military grant 16:56  |  flashman 08/02/07
  68.   Our presidential candidates have pledged allegiance to Israel an 16:58  |  Apartheid 08/02/07
  69.   aid for a return to 1967 borders 17:07  |  chris 08/02/07
  70.   Give the money to countries who need it 17:09  |  John 08/02/07
  71.   welfare fraud 17:32  |  margaret 08/02/07
  72.   Israel Aid??? 17:38  |  Joe 08/02/07
  73.   #69 CHRIS AND MISINFORMATION ARE RUNNING TOGETHER 17:46  |  paul harris 08/02/07
  74.   flashman, get your facts straight 17:49  |  us citizen 08/02/07
  75.   #33 We`ve already been all over that! 17:56  |  ballistic 08/02/07
  76.   #71 MARGARET WHAT IS THE FIGURE FOR US WELFARE 17:58  |  paul harris 08/02/07
  77.   Where are the bigmouths, who tell US to stay SHUT 18:01  |  omolll 08/02/07
  78.   #30 Er, point of blogs here on Haaretz is 18:02  |  ballistic 08/02/07
  79.   #35 Yosemite; your posts points to reality 18:05  |  ballistic 08/02/07
  80.   #36 Skandar, er, good post. 18:06  |  ballistic 08/02/07
  81.   37 SPYGUY, well, I see you continue 18:11  |  ballistic 08/02/07
  82.   #1 IDIOT WRITES FROM CALIFORNIA 18:12  |  paul harris 08/02/07
  83.   #39 Mary of Boston; I do believe you hit a undiscovered 18:14  |  ballistic 08/02/07
  84.   #41 Alicia; agree with your thoughts. Regards. 18:19  |  ballistic 08/02/07
  85.   #50 Hey Paul; you are awake; we are discussing 18:26  |  ballistic 08/02/07
  86.   #75 Hey Paul; why you picking on Margaret now? 18:31  |  ballistic 08/02/07
  87.   #60 Yaakov; I vote we send you, yessiree 18:35  |  ballistic 08/02/07
  88.   #76 good idea tell the CHINES , JAP0ANESEAND SAUDIS they are in 18:35  |  paul harris 08/02/07
  89.   # 76 Omoll...do you really think the world works that way 18:35  |  atlbert amato 08/02/07
  90.   #77 BALLISTIC HAS APOINT ??TROUBLE IS SHE DOESNT KNOW 18:38  |  paul harris 08/02/07
  91.   #62 sorry to disappoint you, unlike you, I am at WORK 18:39  |  ballistic 08/02/07
  92.   Disgusting 18:40  |  Chris 08/02/07
  93.   #63 TA--uh oh, looks like this blog is gonna be 18:41  |  ballistic 08/02/07
  94.   #65 BwanaVic--golly, it looks like I won`t be 18:48  |  ballistic 08/02/07
  95.   81 If you payed to build structures on your neighbor`s property 18:49  |  Apartheid 08/02/07
  96.   #82 MARY DEVOID OF FACTS AND FIGURES 18:49  |  paul harris 08/02/07
  97.   #75 paul harris 18:50  |  margaret 08/02/07
  98.   #67 Flashman; well that is good to hear; tuck 18:52  |  ballistic 08/02/07
  99.   #68 Apartheid `dominated by a midget` 18:54  |  ballistic 08/02/07
  100.   #82 Hey Paul; I know that it would be too 19:06  |  ballistic 08/02/07
  101.   #90 Paul; I am living right next door to your trailer 19:09  |  ballistic 08/02/07
  102.   Hey Paul---off to work, patients waiting! 19:11  |  ballistic 08/02/07
  103.   Taking away funds for US troops in IRAQ 19:14  |  Pablo B 08/02/07
  104.   occupied israel, our aircraft carrier in the m.e. 19:19  |  us citizen 08/02/07
  105.   Thank you ballistic, every member of congress should be asked #87 19:20  |  Yaakov Sullivan 08/02/07
  106.   get it while it lasts 19:33  |  ahad aham 08/02/07
  107.   #24 Get Your History Striaght 19:36  |  J Olsen 08/02/07
  108.   #105 Yaakov; sometimes circumstances will make 19:42  |  ballistic 08/02/07
  109.   #103 Yeah, right, Pablo, don`t hold your breath 19:44  |  ballistic 08/02/07
  110.   us citizen two squandrons of f16s takes a big chunk of 2.4 bn 19:51  |  flashman 08/02/07
  111.   us citizen "the money for funding half of the iaf 19:55  |  flashman 08/02/07
  112.   settlements and US tax dollars 19:56  |  margaret 08/02/07
  113.   u s citizen let me give you an idea of how far 20:01  |  flashman 08/02/07
  114.   us citizen israel has a gdp of 125 billion dollars 20:03  |  flashman 08/02/07
  115.   Israel, US begin talks........ 20:06  |  tbora 08/02/07
  116.   # 92 Chris,and #all of by the ballistic..STOP WHINING... 20:06  |  Kath` 08/02/07
  117.   us citizen did i mention that israel should have growth 20:06  |  flashman 08/02/07
  118.   i am sorry you called yourself us citizen 20:08  |  flashman 08/02/07
  119.   # 104 us citizen. THANK GOODNESS FOR THE TRUTH... 20:13  |  Kath` 08/02/07
  120.   us citizen "occupied israel"is that meant to be a taunt 20:14  |  flashman 08/02/07
  121.   For everyone griping about this "financial aid" 20:15  |  Nabeel Khan 08/02/07
  122.   # 76 paul harris. SORRY TO SEE PAUL,WE ARE SURROUNDED BY IGNORANT 20:20  |  Kath` 08/02/07
  123.   from a Jewish American 20:27  |  I support Israel 08/02/07
  124.   nabeel khan with your name you must be 20:31  |  hussain 08/02/07
  125.   #106, yes aid to Israel is why your schools are in a state 20:32  |  Danny - Israeli one 08/02/07
  126.   #19 NL.re:#18 EGYPT INDEED,AND WITH NO.......... 20:36  |  Kath` 08/02/07
  127.   #117 Keep looking for a representative sample 20:44  |  ballistic 08/02/07
  128.   flashman #110 20:45  |  us citizen 08/02/07
  129.   Beeging bowl 20:47  |  Mike 08/02/07
  130.   # 120 Nabeel Khan. I AGREE WITH YOUR RESPONSE... 20:50  |  Kath` 08/02/07
  131.   #121 Kath--what`s with the caps, is Paul blind? 20:50  |  ballistic 08/02/07
  132.   flashinthepanman #120 21:00  |  us citizens 08/02/07
  133.   just a small correction for Ballistic 21:07  |  Cat 08/02/07
  134.   us citizen your figures are made up 21:16  |  flashman 08/02/07
  135.   No realy! Who voted for this dimwit? 21:17  |  Flash 08/02/07
  136.   us citizen since the costs of upkeep of fighters is low 21:19  |  flashman 08/02/07
  137.   what nonsense 21:20  |  tadchase 08/02/07
  138.   us citizen "forget all the other nonsense post to me" 21:22  |  flashman 08/02/07
  139.   us citizen presses the "send" key a few times 21:31  |  flashman 08/02/07
  140.   the aid that keeps giving 21:34  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 08/02/07
  141.   us citizen 21:35  |  Cat 08/02/07
  142.   us citizen i have always found that those who lose 21:35  |  flashman 08/02/07
  143.   us citizen so you choose not to reply 21:42  |  flashman 08/02/07
  144.   Danny-Israeli 1 - chump change 21:48  |  Ahad Aham 08/02/07
  145.   us citizen more likely 22:06  |  flashman 08/02/07
  146.   us citizen "better start by scaling back all israeli budget 22:09  |  flashman 08/02/07
  147.   #136 CAT 22:16  |  Chris Linthwaite 08/02/07
  148.   us citizen "israel will always be a nation with its hands out" 22:16  |  flashman 08/02/07
  149.   us citizen is israel getting a free ride 22:22  |  flashman 08/02/07
  150.   #137, go nuts... 22:25  |  Danny - Israeli one 08/02/07
  151.   Re #135 Cipora Julianna Kohn- Israel is a security liability 22:25  |  U.S. Interests FIRST 08/02/07
  152.   #122 Kath needs this info 22:27  |  margaret 08/02/07
  153.   but us citizen may say who would israel defend against 22:31  |  flashman 08/02/07
  154.   us citizen still there? 22:36  |  flashman 08/02/07
  155.   us interests first 22:44  |  yirmi 08/02/07
  156.   tadchase "america converted these loan guarantees 22:50  |  hussain 08/02/07
  157.   re the debate with us citizen 22:56  |  abdulla 08/02/07
  158.   How about we just give you a signed blank check? 23:02  |  LanceThruster 08/02/07
  159.   tadchase that should have read converted into" grants" 23:02  |  hussain 08/02/07
  160.   # 150 margaret. re: I THINK MARGARET NEEDS THIS INFO`....... 23:04  |  Kath` 08/02/07
  161.   us citizen re us pressure on syria 23:06  |  ali 08/02/07
  162.   #19 NL- Er, I do not believe Egypt is a democracy 23:08  |  ballistic 08/02/07
  163.   margaret of nyc 23:10  |  hassan nasrallah 08/02/07
  164.   #150 Danny 23:11  |  tadchase 08/02/07
  165.   #151, US interests first 23:12  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 08/02/07
  166.   # 138 Cipora Julianna Kohn. APPROPOS HEADLINE... 23:17  |  Kath` 08/02/07
  167.   #133 Sorry to disappoint you, but Margaret on the 23:26  |  ballistic 08/02/07
  168.   Blank check 23:41  |  W 08/02/07
  169.   # 131 ballistic.re: Paul Harris.I DO NOT MIND PAUL`S "CAPS"... 23:50  |  Kath` 08/02/07
  170.   tadchase and democracy in gaza 23:50  |  nasrallah 08/02/07
  171.   lance thruster 23:52  |  hussain 08/02/07
  172.   ballistic your rants simply cannot be understood 23:55  |  ahmed 08/02/07
  173.   #156 Hussain 23:55  |  tadchase 08/02/07
  174.   Danny, I must be nuts 23:55  |  Ahad Aham 08/02/07
  175.   drop in the bucket 00:11  |  Pssd Off American 09/02/07
  176.   Cipora Julianna Kohn 00:16  |  outofstate 09/02/07
  177.   cnn poll 00:17  |  ron 09/02/07
  178.   FLASH! FLASH! 00:20  |  BwanaVic 09/02/07
  179.   Cipora, talk facts and stop waxing! 00:29  |  BwanaVic 09/02/07
  180.   tadchase my opinion is that 00:55  |  hussain 09/02/07
  181.   the flasher bwana vic 00:59  |  jomokenyatta 09/02/07
  182.   a junkie state doomed to painful withdrawal 01:03  |  Charles 09/02/07
  183.   #172, yes that`s the reason 01:13  |  Danny - Israeli one 09/02/07
  184.   # 126 NL .CORRECTION...................... 01:35  |  Kath` 09/02/07
  185.   # 117 flashman. IN PAST POSTS......................... 01:45  |  Kath` 09/02/07
  186.   John, Israel is the only democracyin the world 01:52  |  TOMY 09/02/07
  187.   As soon as I saw this headline, I knew 02:39  |  TOMY 09/02/07
  188.   #60 Sullivan( Netura Karte) 02:57  |  TOMY 09/02/07
  189.   Re #51 `Keep sending us US tax dollars` 03:02  |  Colin Wright 09/02/07
  190.   harris 03:12  |  tom 09/02/07
  191.   Hey Ballistic! 03:15  |  John 09/02/07
  192.   TOMY 03:16  |  tom 09/02/07
  193.   #175 Hussain 03:23  |  tadchase 09/02/07
  194.   @117, flashman 03:26  |  vladimir 09/02/07
  195.   Tomy is wrong 03:33  |  Nathan 09/02/07
  196.   No money for Americans 03:34  |  Nathan 09/02/07
  197.   America first 03:36  |  Nathan 09/02/07
  198.   abdullah #157 03:39  |  margaret 09/02/07
  199.   kath @160 03:41  |  margaret 09/02/07
  200.   #163 hassan nasrallah 03:44  |  margaret 09/02/07
  201.   #167 ballistic and interested parties 03:51  |  margaret 09/02/07
  202.   #173 pssd off American 03:55  |  margaret 09/02/07
  203.   #181 Tomy and #179 Kath 04:01  |  margaret 09/02/07
  204.   #64 - Lynn 04:23  |  H K 09/02/07
  205.   What qualifies Israel to get our tax money? 04:46  |  Matt 09/02/07
  206.   Margeret!! 04:47  |  John 09/02/07
  207.   Flashman 04:58  |  John 09/02/07
  208.   Flashman,what the hell does ford 05:15  |  John 09/02/07
  209.   Why should we give them money.. 05:37  |  EK 09/02/07
  210.   The message is clear 07:07  |  Mark Lincoln 09/02/07
  211.   #122 and kath haaretz can do NOTHING FOR THEM 08:42  |  paul harris 09/02/07
  212.   THIS IS ABSOLUTELY SINFUL .... 09:34  |  Dutch 09/02/07
  213.   No more money for Israel. 09:56  |  Deborah 09/02/07
  214.   Danny- Isreal 1, you gotta love this guy 10:07  |  Ahad Aham 09/02/07
  215.   #214, as I said before go nuts... 12:08  |  Danny - Israeli one 09/02/07
  216.   #196, It says you haven`t got a clue 12:16  |  Danny - Israeli one 09/02/07
  217.   1. Re:155. Fallacies on US aid to strategic liability Israel 15:57  |  U.S. Interests FIRST 09/02/07
  218.   2 of 3. Re:155. Fallacies on US aid to strategic liability Israel 16:00  |  U.S. interests FIRST 09/02/07
  219.   3 of 3. Re:155. Fallacies on US aid to strategic liability Israel 16:07  |  US Interests FIRST 09/02/07
  220.   Danny Isreal 1 sounds like a deal 16:28  |  Ahad Aham 09/02/07
  221.   #179, BwanaVic 16:47  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 09/02/07
  222.   #203, Margaret 16:51  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 09/02/07
  223.   2nd try. 1/3 Re:155. Fallacies- aid to strategic liability Israel 17:02  |  U.S. Interests FIRST 09/02/07
  224.   2nd try. 2/3 Re:155. Fallacies- aid to strategic liability Israel 17:03  |  U.S. Interests FIRST 09/02/07
  225.   3/3 2nd try. Re:155. Fallacies- aid to strategic liability Israel 17:06  |  U.S. Interests FIRST 09/02/07
  226.   #192 tom, are you suffering from denial 17:14  |  TOMY 09/02/07
  227.   #195 Nathan is wrong 17:24  |  TOMY 09/02/07
  228.   1/3 RE: 155 Yirmi`s 4 points against me on US aid to Israel 17:30  |  U.S. Interests FIRST 09/02/07
  229.   #196 Nathan, you are agein wrong 17:31  |  TOMY 09/02/07
  230.   2/3 RE: 155 Yirmi`s 4 points against me on US aid to Israel 17:32  |  U.S. Interests FIRST 09/02/07
  231.   3/3 RE: 155 Yirmi`s 4 points against me on US aid to Israel. 17:34  |  U.S. Interests FIRST 09/02/07
  232.   #203 Margaret,on democracy 17:44  |  TOMY 09/02/07
  233.   140 Cipora - A Serious Question 18:32  |  Mark of Lewiston 09/02/07
  234.   NOT ABOUT MILITARY AID 18:38  |  Mark of Lewiston 09/02/07
  235.   #220, well the US government begs to differ 19:49  |  Danny - Israeli one 09/02/07
  236.   #220,also.... 19:53  |  Danny - Israeli one 09/02/07
  237.   #223 on so on... You really are guillable 20:00  |  Danny - Israeli one 09/02/07
  238.   Let`s Give Israel $100Billion to take out Iran`s Nukes!!! 20:09  |  Mike 09/02/07
  239.   TO US INTEREST FIRST 20:31  |  a wealthy israeli 09/02/07
  240.   To: Tomy: Nathan is ALWAYS Wrong 21:15  |  Mike 09/02/07
  241.   #233, Mark of Lewiston 22:08  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 09/02/07
  242.   is Nathan really so wrong? 23:13  |  steve 09/02/07
  243.   Danny Israeli 1 - your alright 23:37  |  Ahad Aham 09/02/07
  244.   #241, Thank you 00:01  |  Danny - Israeli one 10/02/07
  245.   To Abdulla RE the debate with us citizen 00:30  |  Philosopher 10/02/07
  246.   To Ballistic RE #133 Sorry to disappoint you 00:42  |  Philosopher 10/02/07
  247.   To Kath # 131 ballistic.re: Paul Harris.I DO NOT MIND PAUL`S 00:51  |  Philosopher 10/02/07
  248.   To BwanaVic RE FLASH! FLASH! 01:00  |  Philosopher 10/02/07
  249.   To Margaret RE #167 ballistic and interested parties 01:08  |  Philosopher 10/02/07
  250.   #242, what "historical record" are you reading? 01:09  |  Danny - Israeli one 10/02/07
  251.   To Margaret RE #181 Tomy and #179 Kath 01:17  |  Philosopher 10/02/07
  252.   To Dutch RE THIS IS ABSOLUTELY SINFUL .... 01:22  |  Philosopher 10/02/07
  253.   To US Interests First RE 155. Fallacies on US aid 01:28  |  Philosopher 10/02/07
  254.   To U.S. interests FIRST RE 2 of 3 01:36  |  Philosopher 10/02/07
  255.   To Tomy RE #192 tom, are you suffering from denial 01:43  |  Philosopher 10/02/07
  256.   Steve #242: You are painting a partial picture 01:46  |  Mike 10/02/07
  257.   Financing the occupation 04:32  |  Les Pauls 10/02/07
  258.   #250 12:17  |  steve 10/02/07
  259.   for Danny- Israeli one 13:04  |  steve 10/02/07
  260.   #39 16:15  |  Richard 10/02/07
  261.   #259, so that`s a no... 18:34  |  Danny - Israeli one 10/02/07
  262.   #258, sorry didn`t see this one 18:48  |  Danny - Israeli one 10/02/07
  263.   #262 and #261 20:20  |  steve 10/02/07
  264.   #261 The jews evicted the arabs.. 20:23  |  steve 10/02/07
  265.   #256 who owns the land? 22:29  |  steve 10/02/07
  266.   #263, I hope you didn`t read this in your "serious" history 01:11  |  Danny - Israeli one 11/02/07
  267.   #264, if you have legally bought the land 01:15  |  Danny - Israeli one 11/02/07
  268.   #265, well that is patent BS 01:24  |  Danny - Israeli one 11/02/07
  269.   A Time To End All ISraeli Aid 02:55  |  Eman 11/02/07
  270.   #267 10:28  |  steve 11/02/07
  271.   #266 10:31  |  steve 11/02/07
  272.   #268 10:36  |  steve 11/02/07
  273.   #271, and there was me 11:47  |  Danny - Israeli one 11/02/07
  274.   #266 the zionist fear of the single state 11:53  |  steve 11/02/07
  275.   #270, yes but the landlords were the legal owners 11:54  |  Danny - Israeli one 11/02/07
  276.   #272, did you actually bother to read what I wrote? 12:06  |  Danny - Israeli one 11/02/07
  277.   #272, why do you assume I am a right-winger? 12:14  |  Danny - Israeli one 11/02/07
  278.   #274, and who taught you maths? 13:17  |  Danny - Israeli one 11/02/07
  279.   #277 14:14  |  steve 11/02/07
  280.   #278 Benjamin Netanyahu takes the mic.. 14:34  |  Steve 11/02/07
  281.   #279, so can I take you to be a liar? 14:42  |  Danny - Israeli one 11/02/07
  282.   #280 and thank you for proving my point 14:50  |  Danny - Israeli one 11/02/07
  283.   #281 Great! now wer`e really gtting somwhere 15:11  |  steve 11/02/07
  284.   #282 the `49 borders 15:49  |  steve 11/02/07
  285.   danny & Steve 16:53  |  Ahad Aham 11/02/07
  286.   #285 critical debate is important 18:01  |  steve 11/02/07
  287.   reply to Steve #250, #265 21:43  |  Mike 11/02/07
  288.   #284, and why is that? 23:20  |  Danny - Israeli one 11/02/07
  289.   #283, please actually read what I write 23:30  |  Danny - Israeli one 11/02/07
  290.   #283, "ethnic cleansing" 23:45  |  Danny - Israeli one 11/02/07
  291.   #286, this isn`t a debate 23:52  |  Danny - Israeli one 11/02/07
  292.   #285, hmm 00:04  |  Danny - Israeli one 12/02/07
  293.   ethnic cleansing "light" 02:24  |  Ahad Aham 12/02/07
  294.   TELL ME WHY US SHOULD HELP ISRAEL 20:33  |  MAHTEW JOSHIE 10/03/08
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