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Strictness bordering on harassment
By Haaretz Editorial

The verdict in the trial of Haim Ramon marks the beginning of a new age, and not necessarily a better one, regarding the attitude of the justice system to sexual offenses. On the one hand, the Ramon verdict will make it easier for a woman to lodge a complaint in cases that until now were considered borderline. On the other hand, defining Haim Ramon as a sex offender and a non-consensual kiss as a sexual crime opens too wide a door and may blur the boundaries between real sexual crimes and inappropriate behavior. To a great extent, detached from the sexual permissiveness and freedom in society, the judges ruled that "a kiss on the mouth with the tongue that is non-consensual is clearly a sexual offense that needs no proof. We are not dealing with sexual harassment, not with a gray area... but rather with an intrusive, damaging and humiliating act... a kiss that is non-consensual arouses repulsion, disgust, revulsion." These statements appear detached from the times and cultural context, as if they were written in a different society.

Ramon's conduct as described in the verdict is the vulgar and unacceptable behavior of a man in authority, who according to the judges did not think he needed the soldier's consent for the kiss. The fact that he lied in court is itself serious. However, it is a long road from this to criminal conviction. It seems that from the moment the soldier was persuaded to register a complaint, and the appropriate clause in the law was found, and from the moment the attorney general decided to issue the indictment, the road to conviction was paved, perhaps too smoothly.

The question is not whether Haim Ramon kissed the soldier against her will and whether this behavior is to be tolerated when it comes to a government minister, but rather whether the court is the appropriate place to discuss behavioral norms and whether the ease with which Ramon is defined as a sexual offender does not hold some risk of confusion between real criminals and those whose behavior is intolerable.

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Israeli society seems to have come a long way from the total disparagement of cases of sexual harassment to strictness in this regard, which sometimes, as in this case, itself borders on harassment.

The offenses of which President Moshe Katsav is suspected are clearly sexual, and have components of long-term coercion, aggression and humiliation, and secretiveness, while the case of Ramon touches more on relationships between men and women, on a misunderstanding, on the boundaries of flirtation, matters that it is difficult for the court to rule on, if at all. The strict attitude taken with Ramon and the defining him as a sex offender might engender a sense of persecution and contempt for the concepts of sexual attack in general.

Criminal law should have absented itself from this case, and bringing it to court involves treatment by the investigative and prosecutory authorities that is too energetic and pressured, even in the opinion of the judges. This is another aspect of the transformation of Israeli society into a litigious one ad nauseum, and the giving over of issues of morals and behavior to judges, as if their opinion on the question of what is disgusting and repulsive is more important than that of any other person.

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  1.   Haaretz windmills with words 10:12  |  Clickfool 01/02/07
  2.   who to believe :) 10:16  |  Atilla Karagozoglu 01/02/07
  3.   Judges or Dictators? 10:24  |  Natan 01/02/07
  4.   For those who don`t understand 10:50  |  Liat 01/02/07
  5.   the verdict against ramon 11:03  |  flashman 01/02/07
  6.   editor the seductress( for that can be the only appropriate 11:11  |  flashman 01/02/07
  7.   the editorial is mealy mouthed 11:14  |  flashman 01/02/07
  8.   FOOL.criminal behaviour and Brit.justice.You are joking yes? 11:17  |  PETER SM 01/02/07
  9.   haaretz do your job 11:18  |  flashman 01/02/07
  10.   haaretz do not drop reign of terror of the judiciary 11:21  |  flashman 01/02/07
  11.   clickfool seeks revenge because his wife left him 11:24  |  flashman 01/02/07
  12.   clickfool is beastly 11:25  |  flashman 01/02/07
  13.   lawyers will milk 11:52  |  Kym 01/02/07
  14.   Funny country, this Israel 12:05  |  Andreas 01/02/07
  15.   the seductress"if he had apologised i would not have filed a case 12:06  |  flashman 01/02/07
  16.   the seductress "i felt dirty when he touched me" 12:08  |  flashman 01/02/07
  17.   Shame on Haaretz 12:27  |  Gunilla 01/02/07
  18.   For Flashman/Harzion # 11 12:45  |  Clickfool 01/02/07
  19.   For Flashzion # 12 12:47  |  Clickfool 01/02/07
  20.   I`m afraid to be a man 12:50  |  Avi 01/02/07
  21.   ANDREAS better than being dead from the waist down. 12:51  |  PETER SM 01/02/07
  22.   Shame on her 12:53  |  Angel 01/02/07
  23.   A kiss is not a kiss ... 12:59  |  Joe 01/02/07
  24.   Different identity? 13:02  |  Maureen Ann 01/02/07
  25.   Mixed signals 13:02  |  Ben Azai 01/02/07
  26.   Obviously the censor is a male 13:04  |  Judith in Haifa 01/02/07
  27.   Modesty and touching 13:06  |  Sherlock Holmes 01/02/07
  28.   High Court`s lead 13:10  |  Joseph 01/02/07
  29.   Latin 13:11  |  Klas 01/02/07
  30.   Hurra for Clickfool 13:12  |  Gunilla 01/02/07
  31.   What? did I read well?? 13:20  |  Simone 01/02/07
  32.   sexual harrassment 13:27  |  m cohen 01/02/07
  33.   Haaretz is right - punishing the innocent only hurts women 13:28  |  Michelle 01/02/07
  34.   #17 Gunilla 13:31  |  Avi 01/02/07
  35.   Moral arbiters 13:37  |  ussishkin 01/02/07
  36.   Avi, women can`t get too much power 13:58  |  Gunilla 01/02/07
  37.   MAUREEN ANN At leat they have Israeli Arab ministers.The Arabs? 14:04  |  PETER SM 01/02/07
  38.   Courts and Norms 14:06  |  Michael 01/02/07
  39.   `Liberal` Haaretz 14:34  |  D 01/02/07
  40.   clickfool i do not blame you for trying to laugh it off 14:36  |  flashman 01/02/07
  41.   clickfool kicks ramon when he is down 14:39  |  flashman 01/02/07
  42.   gunilla from the sound of you you need not worry 14:44  |  chaim zlotopolski 01/02/07
  43.   clickfool poor gunilla may be volunteering 14:48  |  flashman 01/02/07
  44.   Avi - a male sexist pig # 34 14:49  |  Clickfool 01/02/07
  45.   gunilla obviously you gather dust on the shelf 14:50  |  mattayahu 01/02/07
  46.   anyone for gunilla? 14:59  |  flashman 01/02/07
  47.   Men don`t be afraid, be ashamed 15:19  |  Gunilla 01/02/07
  48.   Sticking your tongue down a young girl`s mouth is harassment 15:29  |  Israeli Taxpayer 01/02/07
  49.   a storm in a tea cup 15:33  |  rich 01/02/07
  50.   Judge Kochan got the mad cow desease... 15:35  |  Spoon 01/02/07
  51.   Editorial 15:45  |  j10 01/02/07
  52.   Ha`aretz dead wrong on harassment 15:48  |  Joe Sittizen 01/02/07
  53.   Let the "mohel" in 15:49  |  Daniella 01/02/07
  54.   Right but even more wrong 15:51  |  David Hoffman 01/02/07
  55.   what about breasts and buttocks? 16:38  |  Rami Haimon 01/02/07
  56.   gunilla what if the men did not think they were irrerestible 16:38  |  itzhik 01/02/07
  57.   gunilla "these women deserve all our sympathi" 16:40  |  itzhik 01/02/07
  58.   The little Itzik, the big macho... 16:53  |  Simone 01/02/07
  59.   It is time to shape up for us Men and be decent to our ladies. 16:56  |  Simon 01/02/07
  60.   Aryeh Deri`s case was not one of harassment? 19:07  |  Rockin` Bob 01/02/07
  61.   Gunilla 19:22  |  Avi 01/02/07
  62.   #44 Clickfool 19:27  |  Avi 01/02/07
  63.   Shame on you 19:27  |  zvika 01/02/07
  64.   A Kiss is just a Kiss 19:54  |  David Erlichman 01/02/07
  65.   If Ramon were a rightist.... 20:04  |  Johnny 01/02/07
  66.   harrassment or felony? 20:12  |  Wade 01/02/07
  67.   Johnny, #65, finally, a bit of logic and reason 20:57  |  Voice of Reason 01/02/07
  68.   Young women - norms of behavior 21:03  |  Father/ girl -21y 01/02/07
  69.   this article stumbles all over itself! 21:20  |  eric 01/02/07
  70.   yes it is important 21:23  |  Danite 01/02/07
  71.   This is political correctness gone wild 21:45  |  Ronnie J Pike II 01/02/07
  72.   # 6 assumptions made based on a picture 22:11  |  eric 01/02/07
  73.   people in authority 22:44  |  ralph 01/02/07
  74.   Strictness bordering on harassment 22:50  |  Andrea Sepinwall 01/02/07
  75.   Yeah 22:55  |  Colin Wright 01/02/07
  76.   Re #48 `Sticking your tongue down a young girl`s mouth is harassm 23:05  |  Colin Wright 01/02/07
  77.   re #47 `Men don`t be afraid, be ashamed.` 23:15  |  Colin Wright 01/02/07
  78.   the case where no or yes means "maybe?" 23:32  |  Sal 01/02/07
  79.   #63 | @Zvika 23:38  |  Jack 01/02/07
  80.   AG & Prosecutors are like rabid dogs who have smelled blood 00:04  |  Mosheh Wolfish 02/02/07
  81.   ridiculous 00:29  |  KT 02/02/07
  82.   NEED NO PROOF? 00:43  |  luis 02/02/07
  83.   What a Scam ! 00:57  |  Klaudia 02/02/07
  84.   Ramon`s Conviction: Progress, not Harassment 01:22  |  Ed 02/02/07
  85.   re `the case where no or yes means "maybe?" ` (I) 02:02  |  Colin Wright 02/02/07
  86.   re `the case where no or yes means "maybe?"`(II) 02:04  |  Colin Wright 02/02/07
  87.   Come on............ 03:08  |  Jack 02/02/07
  88.   ABSOLUTELY STUPID--STOP THIS NONSENSE 03:19  |  Dutch 02/02/07
  89.   Colin,#73, tough sex harassment laws better than honor killings 03:23  |  Voice of Reason 02/02/07
  90.   Let this man get back to work 03:51  |  Dutch 02/02/07
  91.   Ramon 05:20  |  Joe 02/02/07
  92.   #78 -- You all misreading the situation -The Judges and Courts 06:49  |  Sal 02/02/07
  93.   High sexual harassment 07:28  |  Jose Nigrin 02/02/07
  94.   sexual harassment 07:32  |  Jose Nigrin 02/02/07
  95.   @86 So, you`ve forgotton Clinton`s BJ? 07:53  |  Conolly Ryan 02/02/07
  96.   boys will be boys.... 09:05  |  Philip 02/02/07
  97.   #85 `Colin #73...` 09:22  |  Colin Wright 02/02/07
  98.   re #78 `you all misreading the situation.` 09:28  |  Colin Wright 02/02/07
  99.   Ramon - A sex offender? Only in Israel. 09:28  |  Joe 02/02/07
  100.   # 86 of which work do you speak? 10:35  |  eric 02/02/07
  101.   He should have approved Beinish 16:30  |  Vladimir 02/02/07
  102.   Poor Ramon 18:57  |  Ronnie J Pike II 02/02/07
  103.   Considering moving to Israel? 22:13  |  Brian 02/02/07
  104.   Ramon Harassment Editorial 02:02  |  Jona 04/02/07
  105.   Ramon Case 02:07  |  Jonathan 04/02/07
  106.   Your editorial "Strictness bordering on harassment" 18:00  |  Dr. Charlotte Schwab 04/02/07
  107.   Ramon a sexual criminal?! 18:29  |  Esther 15/03/07
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