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Self-inflicted injury
By Ze'ev Schiff

In publishing their report entitled "The Future Vision of the Palestinian Arabs in Israel," which sets out a list of demands on Israel and its Jewish inhabitants, the leaders of Israel's Arab minority have ultimately shot themselves in the foot.

The timing of the report, on the heels of the second Lebanon war, is not coincidental. The Israeli establishment has known for some time now about the deliberations going on in Arab circles. Release of the report came at a time when the country was in a state of crisis, brought on by the war. Israel was perceived as weaker, and that constituted an invitation to attack everything it stands for. Again, there is a lesson to be learned. In this part of the world, Israel must radiate strength even when it is prepared to compromise.

This "Vision" paper, signed by the heads of the Arab local authorities and members of the High Follow-up Committee for Arab citizens in Israel, among others, has led to an outcry among Israeli Jews. Particularly noteworthy is the open letter by Prof. Shimon Shamir, a member of the Or Commission that investigated the shooting deaths of 13 Israeli Arabs during the riots of October 2000. Shamir is known for his call to end the ongoing discrimination against Israeli Arabs, published in the Arab newspaper A-Sinara.

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"It is hard to escape the feeling that the object of your tendentious report is to rob the Jews in this country of their identity. It makes Jewish readers, even those who support your cause, feel threatened. The only road to achieving your rights goes through Israeli society. The document you have drawn up does not advance your cause; it pushes it backward."

The Council for Peace and Security has met several times to discuss the issue, including a raucous meeting with Arab delegates, which ended in threats of civil disobedience and retorts about Israeli democracy needing to apply some brakes. An internal memo of the Council for Peace and Security deemed the document totally unacceptable. "There is no recognition of the Jewish character of the state of Israel," it stated (one of the authors of the "Vision" document said he rejected the model of a "Jewish and democratic state").

The Israel Democracy Institute cautioned the Israeli Arab community that "the contents of this report could arouse the anti-democratic tendencies that unfortunately exist in Israeli society. This is a recipe for deepening the rift, and for increasing hostility, fear and mutual distrust."

A sense that Israeli Arabs are being discriminated against may have been the incentive for writing this document, but let us not confuse this with the demands that are being made. Discrimination is a subject that needs to be dealt with, also for the sake of the Jewish and democratic character of the state. But to demand a change in the Jewish character of the country is something else entirely. That issue is not up for discussion. What the "Vision" report is trying to do is send Israel back to the War of Independence. It is clearly an irredentist document. It has no room for compromise.

The "Vision" document calls on Israel to give up its existence as a Jewish state, together with its national symbols, to establish a Palestinian state that will be Judenrein, and alongside it a bi-national state in Israel's stead. Israel is portrayed as a non-democratic colonialist entity. The report speaks of the "despotism" of the Jewish majority ("the Jews must give up their privileges") and demands a "consensual democracy." We've already seen the consensual democracy the Arabs of Lebanon established for themselves, which has only brought destruction and civil war, and has adversely affected the Palestinians.

In this report, the leaders of the Israeli Arab minority are basically divorcing themselves from the state of Israel. The hopes that the Israeli-Arab community would become a bridge for peace with the Palestinians have apparently been dashed. Israeli Arabs should not be surprised if they end up losing a lot of friends.

This is not the first time this warped idea has tried to worm its way into the Israeli Arab community. The Palestinians' right to self-determination, "even to the point of separation," was discussed at the convention of the Israeli Communist Party back in 1957. The following year, there was talk of a "fighting underground." When word of this reached party members MKs Shmuel Mikunis and Moshe Sneh, Sneh warned his Arab friends not to lend a hand to the destruction of the state of Israel.

And now it is happening again. Poor judgment is leading these "visionaries" into battle. They are going to lose, and lose badly.

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  10.   MaoSayTongue 11:01  |  Yaron 26/01/07
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  12.   Yaron 11:29  |  MaoSayTongue 26/01/07
  13.   #4, Mao 11:34  |  Hannah 26/01/07
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  16.   Christopher, well said 11:47  |  Skandar 26/01/07
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  18.   #8, Yaron 12:04  |  Hannah 26/01/07
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  20.   #9 Hannah 12:14  |  Avi 26/01/07
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  22.   #3, MaoSayTongue 12:33  |  Avi 26/01/07
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  24.   #10 Hannah 12:44  |  Avi 26/01/07
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  28.   #11 Skandar, Indeed Arabs in israel have more freedom then in any 13:05  |  Haham me Bat Yam 26/01/07
  29.   Israeli Arabs 13:05  |  Sam 26/01/07
  30.   Hannah 13:05  |  Lynn 26/01/07
  31.   #15 Fairplay 13:10  |  Lynn 26/01/07
  32.   #20, Avi 13:17  |  Hannah 26/01/07
  33.   #23, Nadev 13:25  |  Hannah 26/01/07
  34.   #24, Avi 13:29  |  Hannah 26/01/07
  35.   Time to chose between democracy and beign Jewish 13:32  |  Mark GReen 26/01/07
  36.   re danny the irish one #3 13:39  |  Phil 26/01/07
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  41.   mao say tongue 13:53  |  trumpledor 26/01/07
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  48.   #22, Avi 14:16  |  Hannah 26/01/07
  49.   #35 Mark Green.... 14:18  |  Hastaroth 26/01/07
  50.   # 37 Yossi Mahran 14:20  |  Lynn 26/01/07
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  54.   # 38 Hastaroth 14:51  |  Lynn 26/01/07
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  58.   #48, Omar 15:07  |  Hannah 26/01/07
  59.   Israel has rejected its Arabs. Not the other way round. 15:07  |  Michael 26/01/07
  60.   Omar 15:13  |  bev 26/01/07
  61.   #45 Hannah 15:21  |  Avi 26/01/07
  62.   We are at the Crossroads 15:24  |  Tzfonit 26/01/07
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  64.   #52, Nadev 15:29  |  Hannah 26/01/07
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  70.   Nadav 63 I`ve been to Israel, Egypt and Lebanon 15:57  |  Michael 26/01/07
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  72.   Gene, Gene, Gene 65 16:02  |  Michael 26/01/07
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  75.   to # 15 16:25  |  Rami 26/01/07
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  78.   to # 21 16:38  |  Rami 26/01/07
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  85.   # 56 Omar 17:47  |  Lynn 26/01/07
  86.   Pal Israelis? 17:59  |  KUTW 26/01/07
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  107.   Mark GReen #35 19:31  |  Gee 26/01/07
  108.   #59 Michael 19:36  |  Larry 26/01/07
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  121.   Mao, you dumb 20:53  |  FOX 26/01/07
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  148.   Tosefta, the kiddie pool 23:27  |  FOX 26/01/07
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  150.   #40 trumpeldor 23:41  |  ballistic 26/01/07
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  152.   Rami 23:53  |  KT 26/01/07
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  154.   # 136 Maoriboy 23:56  |  ChanahS 26/01/07
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  156.   FOX, on the beach with Tosefta 00:16  |  FOX 27/01/07
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  158.   4 mao (1) 00:29  |  Nicolas 27/01/07
  159.   Tosefta #133 RE: FOX 00:33  |  Gabe1 27/01/07
  160.   4 mao 00:34  |  Nicolas 27/01/07
  161.   ballistic 00:39  |  bev 27/01/07
  162.   2 States is not the Solution for peace 00:40  |  Sara 27/01/07
  163.   4 Mao (3) 00:43  |  Nicolas 27/01/07
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  165.   15 Fairplay 01:07  |  Nicolas 27/01/07
  166.   Hannah: hoist by her own petard 01:14  |  Star of David 27/01/07
  167.   Mao @ Hannah- the problem with 1 secular state 02:09  |  Avrum 27/01/07
  168.   # 3 Danny Boy(the irish one) 02:29  |  Kath` 27/01/07
  169.   Self-inflicted injury 02:30  |  S H Cohen 27/01/07
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  174.   #164 Toronto`s Finest (G-d help Canada) 03:54  |  * BEN JABO 27/01/07
  175.   S H Cohen # 169 It Has Been Seriously Questioned 04:03  |  Jeff Northridge 27/01/07
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  177.   #173, Jane 04:58  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 27/01/07
  178.   Toronto`s Finest & Ben So What? 05:49  |  Jeff Northridge 27/01/07
  179.   Unbelievable Chutzpah 08:54  |  DMG 27/01/07
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  182.   rami of nazareth 09:25  |  flashman 27/01/07
  183.   rami of nazareth 09:28  |  flashman 27/01/07
  184.   Jane # 173 09:52  |  Anat 27/01/07
  185.   Michael, Hannah, et.al., 10:07  |  sg 27/01/07
  186.   #171, Kath* 10:33  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 27/01/07
  187.   Lebanon 11:04  |  Serge 27/01/07
  188.   ethno-religious states by definition discriminate 11:49  |  Jon 27/01/07
  189.   Sg 185 Drop the insults 12:02  |  Michael 27/01/07
  190.   ChanahS 149 Israel changing whether you like it or not 12:10  |  Michael 27/01/07
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  192.   Michale # 190 12:49  |  ChanahS 27/01/07
  193.   ChanahS # 192 13:33  |  Anat 27/01/07
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  195.   Johnboy vs. Bruriah Sarah 13:56  |  Anat 27/01/07
  196.   # 193 Anat 13:57  |  ChanahS 27/01/07
  197.   # 194 Johnboy 14:01  |  ChanahS 27/01/07
  198.   ChanahS # 196 14:59  |  Anat 27/01/07
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  203.   Marily and the disputed territories 15:48  |  Anat 27/01/07
  204.   EVE #200 15:57  |  GABE1 27/01/07
  205.   Jewish and democratic: oxymoron 16:05  |  Tom 27/01/07
  206.   Tom about Jewish and democratic state 16:28  |  Anat 27/01/07
  207.   Shalom Cipora-Economic Equality 16:53  |  Jane 27/01/07
  208.   Cipora II 16:55  |  Jane 27/01/07
  209.   Marilyn # 199 Wrong! 17:06  |  Jeff Northridge 27/01/07
  210.   Jewish=Non-Democratic is Hogwash 17:06  |  Jane 27/01/07
  211.   Demographic threat to existence of Israel 17:37  |  Arun 27/01/07
  212.   Jane about Jewish and democratic state 17:44  |  Anat 27/01/07
  213.   Jeff Northbridge how you twist it 17:48  |  Marilyn 27/01/07
  214.   Anat 17:49  |  Marilyn 27/01/07
  215.   Lennybruce # 191 Equal Rights Under the Law 17:51  |  Jeff Northridge 27/01/07
  216.   Let them live the illusion 18:01  |  Tulip 27/01/07
  217.   Yes, Jane, only a democracy 18:04  |  Tzfonit 27/01/07
  218.   flashman # 182, 183 18:17  |  Rami 27/01/07
  219.   to jane # 207 18:21  |  Rami 27/01/07
  220.   Tosefta, state your profession 18:31  |  FOX 27/01/07
  221.   to Anat and Channah 18:34  |  Rami 27/01/07
  222.   If democracy and state religions can not exist together then... 18:41  |  Gee 27/01/07
  223.   213 Marilyn, 18:43  |  ChanahS 27/01/07
  224.   #203 Spin anyone??? 18:46  |  ballistic 27/01/07
  225.   214 and Spin 18:47  |  ChanahS 27/01/07
  226.   #209 now there is an interpretation 18:49  |  ballistic 27/01/07
  227.   #211 now there is a solution; where 18:51  |  ballistic 27/01/07
  228.   the impartial ze`ev 18:58  |  arab 27/01/07
  229.   stop the hate? 18:58  |  j.a.f.o. 27/01/07
  230.   Marilyn in Australia 19:05  |  Anat 27/01/07
  231.   Anat 206 Why don`t you understand? 19:09  |  Michael 27/01/07
  232.   To 220, Fox, My Profession 19:11  |  Tosefta 27/01/07
  233.   Rami? zobri 19:12  |  Tamir Gaza 27/01/07
  234.   Jewish&Democratic Israel (Tom #205; Anat, Jane, Tzfonit; Jeff N) 19:28  |  Tosefta 27/01/07
  235.   Rami 221 19:31  |  ChanahS 27/01/07
  236.   Fake Alert: A fake Tosefta 19:34  |  Tosefta 27/01/07
  237.   # 224 Ballistic 19:35  |  ChanahS 27/01/07
  238.   # 226 Ballistic 19:38  |  ChanahS 27/01/07
  239.   Arab # 228 19:44  |  ChanahS 27/01/07
  240.   Rami about voting 19:51  |  Anat 27/01/07
  241.   Tzfonit and Other Worried Israelis 19:58  |  Jane 27/01/07
  242.   jews are both a religion and a nation 20:18  |  Chris 27/01/07
  243.   Jane of Palm Beach 20:33  |  Gabe1 27/01/07
  244.   DAVIDT 20:56  |  Gabe1 27/01/07
  245.   #235 Chanah; 21:08  |  ballistic 27/01/07
  246.   shows deceived by their leaders and that arabs do not understand 21:37  |  ralph 27/01/07
  247.   time to send message to arab leaders be part of state 21:40  |  ralph 27/01/07
  248.   Marilyn # 213 It`s Hard To Twist The Facts 21:49  |  Jeff Northridge 27/01/07
  249.   #215 Jeff, but consider this.. 21:54  |  lennybruce 27/01/07
  250.   Ballistic # 240 22:01  |  ChanahS 27/01/07
  251.   Jane in her huge country 22:06  |  Jasmine Murphy 27/01/07
  252.   #207-208, Jane 22:13  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 27/01/07
  253.   Rami Marchaba Fik 22:50  |  Danite 27/01/07
  254.   Lynn#96 22:51  |  Danite 27/01/07
  255.   Fox re Tosefta 23:03  |  Danite 27/01/07
  256.   Fox #232 23:05  |  Danite 27/01/07
  257.   #251, Jasmine Murphy 23:06  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 27/01/07
  258.   Will you dummies leave Rami alone!! 23:09  |  Danite 27/01/07
  259.   #250 Chanah, whose facts 23:09  |  ballistic 27/01/07
  260.   ballistic # 241 Sure, I Argue Too 23:20  |  Jeff Northridge 27/01/07
  261.   Mark Green there is no muslim minority in Europe 23:58  |  Aby 27/01/07
  262.   What you need... 23:59  |  Colin Wright 27/01/07
  263.   ballistic # 245 Sure, I Argue Too (continued) 00:05  |  Jeff Northridge 28/01/07
  264.   Anat 00:09  |  Aby 28/01/07
  265.   243 Gabe 1 re:Jane of Palm Beach....WELL,WELL........ 00:15  |  Kath` 28/01/07
  266.   # 243 Gabe 1 re: Jane From Palm Beach. WELL,WELL..... 00:18  |  Kath` 28/01/07
  267.   # 252 Cipora Julianna Kohn.re:Jane From Palm Beach.I am astounded 00:29  |  Kath` 28/01/07
  268.   My very special thanks to JD from KY 00:33  |  Eva 28/01/07
  269.   # 99 Mark Toukan. WARPED TO THE CORE!! 00:51  |  Kath` 28/01/07
  270.   Marilyn / Rami 00:53  |  Jeremy Woolf 28/01/07
  271.   Lennybruce # 249 That Is Up To Israel 01:06  |  Jeff Northridge 28/01/07
  272.   Time to say good-bye! 01:24  |  Wilhelm Tell 28/01/07
  273.   Completely agree with Danny #3 - They must go! 01:53  |  Luis 28/01/07
  274.   # 243 Gabe1. re:Jane Of Palm Beach(FIFTH TRY) 01:55  |  Kath` 28/01/07
  275.   Haaretz 02:01  |  Kath` 28/01/07
  276.   Completely agree with #3 Danny - They must go in peace 02:18  |  Luis 28/01/07
  277.   Kath and Gabe It`s Still Me Nothing`s Changed 02:50  |  Jane 28/01/07
  278.   #210 Jane, Well Said ! 02:55  |  Dutch 28/01/07
  279.   Jasmine Murphy 03:49  |  Lynn 28/01/07
  280.   Starting in 1948.Then 1967.Then the Pal Covenant 04:06  |  PETER SM 28/01/07
  281.   Such news is shocking only to the liberal left. 04:32  |  bat yam 28/01/07
  282.   ALL Western democracies are discovering: DIVERSITY is PERVERSITY. 04:45  |  common sense 28/01/07
  283.   The Israeli Arab Fifth Column 06:04  |  Ruth Broch 28/01/07
  284.   to Danny dream on. it will never happen, 07:58  |  gus 28/01/07
  285.   to Terry, then let them go. 08:02  |  gus 28/01/07
  286.   Israel is a Zionist state? A Jewish state? A democratic state? 08:36  |  Joe 28/01/07
  287.   Israel is a Zionist state? A Jewish state? A democratic state? 08:47  |  Joe 28/01/07
  288.   TOSEFTA, a designer? nice #232 08:50  |  FOX 28/01/07
  289.   Lynn 08:51  |  Jasmine Murphy 28/01/07
  290.   Born on wrong side of God. 08:51  |  Billy Jack 28/01/07
  291.   #267, Kath 09:37  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 28/01/07
  292.   #263; I don`t disagree with any of 16:02  |  ballistic 28/01/07
  293.   to danite # 253 16:45  |  Rami 28/01/07
  294.   284: Gus again supports ethnic cleansing 20:58  |  David Teich 28/01/07
  295.   #176 - Toronto`s Finest (G-d help Toronto) 21:23  |  * BEN JABO 28/01/07
  296.   292: Ballistice still inventing his own reality 13:05  |  David Teich 29/01/07
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