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Last update - 01:48 22/01/2007
Girl allegedly killed by Border Police may have been hit by rock
By Jonathan Lis and Yuval Yoaz, Haaretz Correspondents

Ten-year-old Abir Aramin was apparently killed by a blunt object, and not by a rubber bullet, as some eyewitnesses claimed, according to the autopsy findings.

Aramin, of the West Bank village of Anata near Jerusalem, died last Thursday of injuries incurred two days earlier as she was standing near the entrance to her elementary school.

Eyewitnesses blamed her death on Border Police in the vicinity, but disagreed over the cause, with some saying that she was struck by a rubber bullet and others citing a shock grenade.

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Police sources said on Sunday that autopsy findings indicated Aramin could have been killed by concussion from a shock grenade or by a thrown rock. However, they said, the findings were inconsistent with her having been killed by a rubber bullet: No bullet wounds were found on her body, and the skull injury that caused her death was a large one, whereas rubber bullets, even if they do not penetrate, usually make small wounds.

The autopsy was performed last Friday at the Institute of Forensic Medicine in Abu Kabir, with a pathologist hired by Aramin's family in attendance. But while it demonstrated that Aramin was killed by a blunt object  a conclusion with which the family's pathologist concurs  the findings have thus far been insufficient to determine the exact cause of death, because part of her skull, containing vital clues, was removed during the operation that she underwent after being wounded last Tuesday. on Monday, the pathologists are supposed to receive the results of two computer tomography (CT) scans that she underwent last Tuesday just before the operation, one at Mokassad Hospital in East Jerusalem and one at Hadassah Hospital, Ein Karem, and the pathologists are hoping that these results will help them to pinpoint the cause of death.

Police investigators also questioned the Border Police involved in the incident under caution on Sunday, and police sources said they plan to reenact the incident "as soon as possible."

The date of the reenactment is being kept secret for fear that there might be rioting against the police.

The Border Police have admitted to firing rubber bullets, saying they did so to break up a violent demonstration that made them fear they would be lynched. However, they deny having hit Aramin.

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  1.   this is the reason that pals get shot if they throw rocks!!! 00:00  |  thinking doesnt hurt 22/01/07
  2.   The girl?s father 00:32  |  KUTW 22/01/07
  3.   Ah ha! 00:41  |  David G 22/01/07
  4.   Typical spin on Girl murdered by Border Police 01:16  |  American 22/01/07
  5.   Go figure 01:26  |  Jake 22/01/07
  6.   Rock throwers and the media 01:32  |  Avrum 22/01/07
  7.   American in Chicago 02:13  |  KT 22/01/07
  8.   Cause of Death 02:13  |  Daniel Donaly 22/01/07
  9.   Dear "American" 02:27  |  Michelle 22/01/07
  10.   #4 Ignore the truth 02:36  |  manny.b 22/01/07
  11.   Responsibility 02:46  |  Nechama 22/01/07
  12.   Some Say She Was Killed By Arab Rock Throwers 03:06  |  Mike 22/01/07
  13.   #4 American 03:06  |  Lynn 22/01/07
  14.   #8 Cause of death 03:08  |  Lynn 22/01/07
  15.   No.1 `This is the reason...` 03:54  |  Colin Wright 22/01/07
  16.   #15 05:03  |  think 22/01/07
  17.   hey colin - wrong conclusion 05:12  |  vik 22/01/07
  18.   KT #7 06:14  |  Noc 22/01/07
  19.   killed by her pals not israeli. usual, typical pal lie 06:50  |  ralph 22/01/07
  20.   Typical American spin-doctoring #4 07:50  |  William 22/01/07
  21.   Daniel - just because there`s a consensus... #8 07:56  |  William 22/01/07
  22.   "Muslim strategy" 08:27  |  Amos Magram 22/01/07
  23.   Rubber bullet, shock grenade?-No, ROCK. ROCK from PALS 08:27  |  Vittorio 22/01/07
  24.   TYPICAL LYING ARABS CAUGHT AGAIN 08:36  |  Aaron 22/01/07
  25.   Typical IDF spin. 08:52  |  jjohnson 22/01/07
  26.   makes me feel sick 09:09  |  anything but zionist 22/01/07
  27.   Haaretz reports this garbage but not her death 09:27  |  Clickfool 22/01/07
  28.   re: Thinking Doesnt Hurt #1 09:33  |  Paulo 22/01/07
  29.   "for fear they`d be lynched"...how ludicrous can you get? 09:35  |  eric 22/01/07
  30.   JJOHNSON.Lots of slogans.Your evidence please 09:40  |  PETER SM 22/01/07
  31.   KT # 7- Why Don`t You Fact Check? 09:48  |  Victor Smolinsky 22/01/07
  32.   WHATEVER KILLED THIS LITTLE GIRL, I AM 09:59  |  Robert. 22/01/07
  33.   WHATEVER KILLED THIS LITTLE GIRL, I AM 10:04  |  Robert 22/01/07
  34.   To Kutw and all 10:06  |  gus 22/01/07
  35.   Nobody noticed this point, I take it? 10:07  |  Johnboy 22/01/07
  36.   FOOL You don`t like Haaretz?.Find an Arab site 10:13  |  PETER SM 22/01/07
  37.   NEVER BELIEVE THE MUSLIM SIDE 10:15  |  Stayin Alive 22/01/07
  38.   to Nechama 10:16  |  gus 22/01/07
  39.   What Was Not Admitted By The IDF 10:22  |  Victor Smolinsky 22/01/07
  40.   FOOL.Sour grapes!Israel does so well in technology amongst others 10:24  |  PETER SM 22/01/07
  41.   if you wern`t there then shut up. 10:47  |  paul 22/01/07
  42.   JOHNBOY.Prove that they fired stun grenades at the time 10:47  |  PETER SM 22/01/07
  43.   Johnboy: Learn About Stun Grenades Before Opening Your Piehole 10:52  |  Yishai Kohen 22/01/07
  44.   Both Clickfool and Peter SM are spinning 10:54  |  Leon 22/01/07
  45.   border police killed her 11:06  |  cristina 22/01/07
  46.   Dream on, Peter SM # 36 11:08  |  Clickfool 22/01/07
  47.   This poor child 11:08  |  Realistic 22/01/07
  48.   Peter SM goes off his trolley # 40 11:10  |  Clickfool 22/01/07
  49.   American 11:21  |  Connie 22/01/07
  50.   to Stayin alive. We are not liars. 11:23  |  gus 22/01/07
  51.   Angels don`t die 11:30  |  Anton Siniora 22/01/07
  52.   Who believes what IDF says - nobody 11:33  |  Petteri 22/01/07
  53.   Dear Gus #38 11:34  |  Nechama 22/01/07
  54.   PS Dear Gus #38 11:36  |  NEchama 22/01/07
  55.   #45 cristina in a BLAME STRATEGY 11:46  |  paul harris 22/01/07
  56.   #46, of course he won`t go to an arab or Iranian site 11:48  |  Danny -Israeli one 22/01/07
  57.   LEON is asking Fool and others for evidence spinning? 11:49  |  Peter S.M. 22/01/07
  58.   #35, er that would be because you dont SHOOT stun grenades... 11:52  |  Danny - Israeli one 22/01/07
  59.   Another wasted life. More terrorists recruited. 11:55  |  Michael 22/01/07
  60.   Abir Aramin`s father 11:58  |  Frenchie 22/01/07
  61.   #51, well we already proved that the first Pal explaination is 11:59  |  Danny - Israeli one 22/01/07
  62.   The daily minyan of Israel bashers 12:02  |  Jonathan S 22/01/07
  63.   Nechama 12:05  |  Frenchie 22/01/07
  64.   Abir father is part of a mix jewish-pal ex combatant group who 12:06  |  cristina 22/01/07
  65.   Palestinian children 12:13  |  Frenchie 22/01/07
  66.   In how many countries do you know people 12:14  |  Robert 22/01/07
  67.   Jonathan S 12:16  |  Jeremiah 22/01/07
  68.   cristina 12:21  |  Connie 22/01/07
  69.   answer to 61 12:26  |  Frenchie 22/01/07
  70.   FOOL.No matter what the topic your posts are the same abuse 12:31  |  PETER SM 22/01/07
  71.   FOOL re #36 the rest of the post asks for your proof 12:43  |  PETER SM 22/01/07
  72.   Re #34 Gus... 12:54  |  MaryRose 22/01/07
  73.   An advice to Jeremiah 13:11  |  Jonathan S 22/01/07
  74.   #52 Who believes what Petteri says?nobody 14:00  |  Hastaroth 22/01/07
  75.   Blunt Injuries caused by rubber bullets 14:46  |  Chris Linthwaite 22/01/07
  76.   # 35 Johnboy 15:04  |  Lynn 22/01/07
  77.   clickfool studies deeply our every misdemeanour 15:39  |  flashman 22/01/07
  78.   clickfool it is the job of the police and the law courts 15:42  |  nahum ovadiah 22/01/07
  79.   to #69 Frenchie. You call posting with 2 questions "answer to 61" 15:57  |  Vittorio 22/01/07
  80.   Palis and their children 16:17  |  Twogunz 22/01/07
  81.   eric #29 16:21  |  Gee 22/01/07
  82.   Jeremiah 16:42  |  ODP 22/01/07
  83.   #75, Chris Linthwaite 17:32  |  JB 22/01/07
  84.   Response to "American" #49 17:52  |  Jill 22/01/07
  85.   Palestinian girl kills self with rock! 18:38  |  bruce 22/01/07
  86.   to chris linthwaite # 75 it dont sound like your sitting on the 18:45  |  terrornator 22/01/07
  87.   Haaretz, why are you wasting our time? 18:47  |  Tosefta 22/01/07
  88.   #86 Terrornator read my post again 19:43  |  Chris Linthwaite 22/01/07
  89.   #83 19:52  |  Chris Linthwaite 22/01/07
  90.   response to # 75 19:57  |  Sylvia 22/01/07
  91.   Frenchie, Do you throw stones with your children to the police? 20:02  |  Aby 22/01/07
  92.   #90 Sylvia 20:12  |  Chris Linthwaite 22/01/07
  93.   #20-Rachel Corrie 20:21  |  Michael McMillin 22/01/07
  94.   More lies from Israeli bashers 20:41  |  France 22/01/07
  95.   #27 Clickfool `Haaretz reports this garbage...` 21:04  |  Colin Wright 22/01/07
  96.   Enough of the Israeli lies! 21:10  |  Jennifer Anglos 22/01/07
  97.   Come to think of it... 21:11  |  Colin Wright 22/01/07
  98.   Michael McMillin #93 21:22  |  Gee 22/01/07
  99.   William 21:48  |  Connie 22/01/07
  100.   Jennifer 21:52  |  Connie 22/01/07
  101.   8. Daniel Donaly: Cause of Death 21:59  |  KUTW 22/01/07
  102.   to Chris Linthwaite 22:14  |  Ilya 22/01/07
  103.   Gee #98 22:14  |  Michael McMillin 22/01/07
  104.   73 Johnatan S 22:28  |  Peter Ganz 22/01/07
  105.   to Jennifer Anglos 22:31  |  Ilya 22/01/07
  106.   9 Michelle 22:34  |  ganz 22/01/07
  107.   #102 Ilya 23:02  |  Chris Linthwaite 22/01/07
  108.   answer to Vittorio 23:24  |  Frenchie 22/01/07
  109.   to Aby 23:34  |  Frenchie 22/01/07
  110.   # 93 Michael 23:37  |  Lynn 22/01/07
  111.   to Michael McMillin#103 23:39  |  Ilya 22/01/07
  112.   THE AUTOPSY IS FROM AN ARAB HOSPITAL: ENOUGH LIES!!!!!! 23:44  |  Moises 22/01/07
  113.   Michael McMillin #103 23:50  |  Gee 22/01/07
  114.   Or a train 00:08  |  Liz 23/01/07
  115.   Frenchie, Try again this reply is not an answer 00:21  |  Aby 23/01/07
  116.   #112 Moises from Dreamland 00:27  |  Tooth Fairy 23/01/07
  117.   No 95 00:36  |  Nina 23/01/07
  118.   Michael American who believes in everything 00:37  |  Aby 23/01/07
  119.   Frenchie, whose she? 00:44  |  Aby 23/01/07
  120.   #42 PETER SM oh dear, you same ol` same ol` 01:13  |  Johnboy 23/01/07
  121.   #43 Yishai Kohen 01:20  |  Johnboy 23/01/07
  122.   #76 Lynn 01:32  |  Johnboy 23/01/07
  123.   Moises Makes Noises 01:41  |  Moises` Babysitter 23/01/07
  124.   What Difference Does It Make?A Child Is Dead 01:43  |  Jane 23/01/07
  125.   What do you mean `a train`? 02:15  |  Simon 23/01/07
  126.   Killing children for PR? 02:38  |  H50 23/01/07
  127.   #112 Moises from Dreamland 02:42  |  Tooth Fairy 23/01/07
  128.   Dream on 03:07  |  margaret 23/01/07
  129.   # 98 Gee 03:18  |  Lynn 23/01/07
  130.   # 96 Jennifer Anglos 03:22  |  Lynn 23/01/07
  131.   JOHNBOY When you say "highly likely"-back it up 03:31  |  PETER SM 23/01/07
  132.   Jill 03:47  |  Connie 23/01/07
  133.   98-110-111-113-118 04:25  |  Michael McMillin 23/01/07
  134.   98-110-111-113-118 04:36  |  Michael McMillin 23/01/07
  135.   to Chris Linthwaite#107 04:58  |  Ilya 23/01/07
  136.   Well, Maybe The Police Shot At A Rock And The Rock... 05:12  |  Yosemite 23/01/07
  137.   # 81 there was NO frigging riot! (part 2) 05:14  |  eric 23/01/07
  138.   Who actually killed this little girl? 07:18  |  Molly Jenning 23/01/07
  139.   Israel will be blamed no matter what 07:25  |  Conolly Ryan 23/01/07
  140.   to Twoguns. what a silly lie 08:00  |  gus 23/01/07
  141.   For Colin Wright # 95 09:02  |  Clickfool 23/01/07
  142.   Aby re: Frenchie`s Israeli female reporter 09:44  |  LBNAZ 23/01/07
  143.   Ten-year-old girl 09:55  |  Des Carroll 23/01/07
  144.   Ten-year-old girl 09:58  |  Des Carroll 23/01/07
  145.   #141, Brazen liars don`t worry 10:27  |  Danny - Israeli one 23/01/07
  146.   #120, one again slowly for the idiot 10:30  |  Danny - Israeli one 23/01/07
  147.   reporting for "dummies" 11:06  |  cathy 23/01/07
  148.   #146 Danny, very good point, and a very bad point. 14:07  |  Johnboy 23/01/07
  149.   sending girl 10 yr. old is murder! 16:10  |  sam 23/01/07
  150.   #149 Sam - Blame the victim. Blame the victim 01:33  |  Johnboy 24/01/07
  151.   Israeli Border Police = zionist terror organization 14:14  |  John 24/01/07
  152.   #148, they are the same thing 10:17  |  Danny -Israeli one 28/01/07
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