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German Chancellor Angela Merkel and U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice reacting to the media prior to a meeting at the chancellery in Berlin on Thursday. (AP)
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Rice: Olmert, Abbas agree to informal talks on Palestinian state
By Aluf Benn, Haaretz Correspondent

At the end of her Middle East tour, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice announced that Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen) agreed to "informal talks" about the nature of a future Palestinian state.

In a conversation with U.S. reporters who traveled with her, Rice said talks in the current climate are much more likely to reach an Israeli-Palestinian agreement than was the case in the 2000 Camp David talks, due to political changes on both sides.

Rice also called on the sides not to stall on the first phase of the road map and to discuss the broader issues. She mentioned talks on security arrangements and the nature of the democratic institutions in the Palestinian state.

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Rice plans to return to the region in early February to meet with Olmert and Abbas, and the U.S. is currently looking for a neutral site to host the tripartite meeting without mandating a fourth participant. It is therefore unlikely the summit will take place in Egypt or Jordan.

At this stage, no invitation has been extended to Olmert and Abbas to come to Washington. Key Olmert aides, chief of staff Yoram Turbowicz and political adviser Shalom Turjeman, will meet in the coming weeks with their Palestinian counterparts, Rafiq Husseini and Saeb Erekat, to create an agenda for the summit.

Rice said in the Thursday press briefing in London: "I am very pleased with what we have achieved so far ... obviously the beginning of informal talks between Israel and the Palestinians will be a very positive development and the regional states welcomed it and will be willing to help the Israelis and the Palestinians in accelerating progress on the road map."

According to Rice, the informal talks were Abbas' idea. "I thought it was a very good idea. Prime Minister Olmert thought it was a good idea," she said.

Rice believes the talks will help build confidence between the sides after six years without negotiations, and she agrees with Abbas that presenting a "political horizon" will ease implementation of measures like removing roadblocks, easing movement and money transfers.

Rice was asked why she is optimistic, when Olmert and Abbas are weak politically compared to their predecessors. "Let's look at where it really was in 2000, all right? You had Yasser Arafat, who I think now had one foot in terror and one foot in politics. I would submit to you we're never going to get a Palestinian state and peace with Israel under those circumstances. And if you'll remember, we caught him a couple years later taking arms from Iran through the ship the Karine A. So I just don't think that you can make a comparison between Yasser Arafat and Abu Mazen, somebody who's clearly committed to peace and who's prepared to stand on a peace platform. There's a reason Yasser Arafat couldn't make a deal."

Rice also found a positive aspect to Hamas, noting that its involvement in the political system and participation in elections have made things "in some sense more complicated," but she said its inability to govern "has led Hamas to, I think, some very, very difficult situations in which they're trying to find their ways out." Rice noted that in 2000, Hamas had been a resistance movement not at all involved politically.

In commenting on the internal Israeli situation, Rice said, "The differences on the Israeli side are also very fundamental. Do you really think Ariel Sharon was going to support the Camp David Accords - Likud? Doesn't look like it, does it? Because in fact, the - what has happened now is that by 2003 Ariel Sharon was able to, was willing, to make a shift from the right of the Israeli political spectrum and to begin to talk about dividing the land. The Herzliya speech was one of the most important speeches in recent Israeli political history. He starts to talk about dividing the land. He accepts the two-state solution. He accepts the road map. And now the breadth of the Israeli political system that is actually united behind a two-state solution is very different than in 2000."

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  1.   Yes now make a lasting peace 03:34  |  MOE 21/01/07
  2.   Rice`s last word. 03:56  |  sandra chitayat 21/01/07
  3.   Rice has no shame! 04:34  |  Joe 21/01/07
  4.   Create an independent Palestine alongside a peaceful Israel 05:25  |  MOE 21/01/07
  5.   The Geneva Initiative 05:56  |  Daniel Leopold 21/01/07
  6.   I agree with #5 Geneva is best plan 06:08  |  MOE 21/01/07
  7.   #3 Joe, Informal talks are consequence of failure of formulation 06:09  |  Smadar 21/01/07
  8.   The results of any informal talks must not be implemented as long 06:11  |  Nadav 21/01/07
  9.   PROBABLY SHE IS JUST A STUPID LADY 06:15  |  indrajaya 21/01/07
  10.   #1 Moe -`67 Borders 06:16  |  * BEN JABO 21/01/07
  11.   US desperate to achieve a pro-Arab headline 06:27  |  Bimmer 21/01/07
  12.   Cosmetic Action 07:19  |  Ronnie Wolman 21/01/07
  13.   DESTROY THE OUTPOST SETTLEMENTS WITHIN 3 MONTHS 07:36  |  indrajaya 21/01/07
  14.   # 3 Joe 07:38  |  Lynn 21/01/07
  15.   Nadav`s three reasonable conditions are impossible 08:41  |  Pavel 21/01/07
  16.   ignorant lady 09:10  |  Khalid 21/01/07
  17.   Lynn vs. Joe 09:12  |  Anat 21/01/07
  18.   Nadav...what Jewish state? 09:14  |  Khalid 21/01/07
  19.   The Geneva initiative is nonsense 09:16  |  Khalid 21/01/07
  20.   Sandara...the Evangelical! 09:29  |  Christian in Gaza 21/01/07
  21.   Pavel, I share with you the not very optimistic outlook on the 09:46  |  Nadav 21/01/07
  22.   1967 border Moe? 09:48  |  Gary 21/01/07
  23.   Joe from Ramallah # 3 09:51  |  ATLAS 21/01/07
  24.   Baloney and rice 10:02  |  Clickfool 21/01/07
  25.   indrajaya and jewish or not 10:26  |  good javanese 21/01/07
  26.   indrajaya "this rice is more zionist then any jewish(sic)" 10:28  |  bong bong 21/01/07
  27.   dana and her story 10:33  |  nahum 21/01/07
  28.   Enough with talks. We need actions. 11:20  |  Tzfonit 21/01/07
  29.   Khalid, normally I would not respond to your post, because in 11:25  |  Nadav 21/01/07
  30.   Nadav #8 Your Point 1 11:32  |  Tzfonit 21/01/07
  31.   Rice spreads lice . . . . 11:36  |  revoltop 21/01/07
  32.   For Nadav # 29 11:45  |  Clickfool 21/01/07
  33.   The Tripartite summit better be held in Guitmo 11:45  |  Joseph E . 21/01/07
  34.   Pals are welcomed to have their State in Guitmo 11:48  |  Joseph E . 21/01/07
  35.   Pals state in Guitmo could ask for nuclear energy 11:53  |  Joseph E . 21/01/07
  36.   #13 INDRAJAYA GOES BERSERK AND THINKS 11:58  |  paul harris 21/01/07
  37.   Stupid Abbas 12:00  |  Rij 21/01/07
  38.   NOW IN ITS 87TH YEAR TALKS ABOUT TALKS ABOUT TALKS 12:02  |  paul harris 21/01/07
  39.   # Sandra Chitayat Dividing the land 12:02  |  Jel 21/01/07
  40.   To Kalid and the Like-Minded 12:09  |  Paul 21/01/07
  41.   Tzfonit, I am at least as eager as you are to see a peaceful 12:10  |  Nadav 21/01/07
  42.   Ronnie Wolman 12:20  |  sh 21/01/07
  43.   Pals don`t want Abbas , he sleeps with US Condi and Zionist Livni 12:24  |  Joseph E . 21/01/07
  44.   There must be something good 12:29  |  Yonatan 21/01/07
  45.   Nadav, I call for action as well. See my post #28 12:39  |  Tzfonit 21/01/07
  46.   KHALID Why? because each time you opt for terror you lose more. 12:44  |  PETER SM 21/01/07
  47.   Jel, to use your words, do all the French of today have a blood 12:55  |  Nadav 21/01/07
  48.   For Yonatan #44 12:55  |  Clickfool 21/01/07
  49.   Tzfonit, I am sorry if I were not clear. I do suggest Olmert talk 13:03  |  Nadav 21/01/07
  50.   Nadav #49 The character of Talkback 13:31  |  Tzfonit 21/01/07
  51.   Of Course, Tzfonit 13:32  |  CHGODMK 21/01/07
  52.   Khalid the Impossible 13:41  |  ATLAS 21/01/07
  53.   # 28 Tzfonit @ Ben-Ami / Israel 13:42  |  Joseph E . 21/01/07
  54.   Tzfonit #50: Where?! 13:43  |  CHGODMK 21/01/07
  55.   # 28 Tzfonit @ Ben-Ami / Israel 14:15  |  Joseph E . 21/01/07
  56.   # Joe Rice has no shame 14:19  |  Jel 21/01/07
  57.   Tzfonit, of course this is not the place, and this is not the 14:25  |  Nadav 21/01/07
  58.   Nadav: Hamas won only 44% of the popular vote 14:35  |  A Bethlehemite 21/01/07
  59.   Rice - fried or steamed? 14:52  |  Chaim Gorenstein 21/01/07
  60.   # 47 Nadav 15:02  |  Jel 21/01/07
  61.   Wow!the 95th round of talks!If only Fatah and Hamas would talk!! 15:03  |  Avi 21/01/07
  62.   sh: Circumstancial Evidence 15:04  |  Ronnie Wolman 21/01/07
  63.   CHGODMK 15:05  |  Tzfonit 21/01/07
  64.   For Chaim # 59 - Condi loves George 15:10  |  Clickfool 21/01/07
  65.   Bethlehemite, thank you for the information. Now that I know that 15:11  |  Nadav 21/01/07
  66.   # 8 Nadav 15:11  |  Jel 21/01/07
  67.   Khalid-#19-The Geneva Initiative is crystal clear 15:16  |  Daniel Leopold 21/01/07
  68.   Tzfonit 15:16  |  CHGODMK 21/01/07
  69.   # 10 Ben Jabo 15:20  |  Jel 21/01/07
  70.   Jel, I do not deliver opinions, I simply write about them. But I 15:22  |  Nadav 21/01/07
  71.   # 12 Cosmetic action 15:28  |  Jel 21/01/07
  72.   Clickfool 15:39  |  Chaim Gorenstein 21/01/07
  73.   Pavel #15..not impossible if there is to be a Palestinian state 15:45  |  albert amato 21/01/07
  74.   # 20 Christian in Gaza 15:47  |  Jel 21/01/07
  75.   # Enough talks 15:54  |  Jel 21/01/07
  76.   Tzfonit 16:08  |  CHGODMK 21/01/07
  77.   # revoltop 16:08  |  Jel 21/01/07
  78.   #5 Daniel Leopold & #6 MOE, supported Geneva Accord when proposed 16:09  |  Smadar 21/01/07
  79.   Jel: Fundamentally fashionable 16:11  |  Ronnie Wolman 21/01/07
  80.   Palestinian state can wait another 60 years 16:39  |  Jonathan S 21/01/07
  81.   CHGODMK/Tzfonit, I am glad you have noticed what I have. 16:55  |  Nadav 21/01/07
  82.   Jonathan S, may I make a small correction to your otherwise good 17:00  |  Nadav 21/01/07
  83.   Nadav, for the record I was never silent about 17:16  |  CHGODMK 21/01/07
  84.   # 79 Ronnie Wolman 17:23  |  Jel 21/01/07
  85.   CHGODMK, actually I am vegetarian. I have never had a beef with 17:35  |  Nadav 21/01/07
  86.   #18 Khalid 17:44  |  duncan 21/01/07
  87.   Nadav, haven`t noticed that at all... 17:45  |  Tzfonit 21/01/07
  88.   #1 moe 17:54  |  duncan 21/01/07
  89.   #1 moe 17:54  |  duncan 21/01/07
  90.   Indrajaya - set an example 18:24  |  * BEN JABO 21/01/07
  91.   Jel :Champagne Communists 18:24  |  Ronnie Wolman 21/01/07
  92.   Palestinian Violence 18:26  |  LL 21/01/07
  93.   #69 Jel & Wars 18:34  |  * BEN JABO 21/01/07
  94.   # 61- Avi... The Left Loves Process 18:43  |  Klaudia 21/01/07
  95.   Putting on the dog and pony show 19:22  |  Mark Lincoln 21/01/07
  96.   Nadav: I believe both peoples derserve 19:25  |  A Bethlehemite 21/01/07
  97.   Hamas & Fatah Want to Destroy Israel 19:33  |  Bruriah Sarah 21/01/07
  98.   Mark Lincoln: Rhetoric on the Anti Bush Campaign 19:41  |  Ronnie Wolman 21/01/07
  99.   #9 Indrajaya 19:59  |  TOBIA 21/01/07
  100.   Nadav, as for Margie, Peter, Ronnie Wolman, and 20:18  |  CHGODMK 21/01/07
  101.   Much earlier in the day, post no. 8, and in subsequent posts I... 20:26  |  Nadav 21/01/07
  102.   Nadav: A Misrepresentation 20:27  |  Ronnie Wolman 21/01/07
  103.   Tzfonit: Misguided As Always 20:28  |  CHGODMK 21/01/07
  104.   CHGODCK: Out of Context 20:41  |  Ronnie Wolman 21/01/07
  105.   Bethlehemite, I am so glad to have read your post, although after 20:49  |  Nadav 21/01/07
  106.   But Ronnie Wolman, we`ve been through this before 20:55  |  CHGODMK 21/01/07
  107.   Nice Try, Ronnie 20:59  |  CHGODMK 21/01/07
  108.   ...to Khalid #18...go Google Earth and get a look 21:03  |  abraham...mico 21/01/07
  109.   #96 21:04  |  duncan 21/01/07
  110.   Another Thing, Ronnie. 21:07  |  CHGODMK 21/01/07
  111.   ...to Khalid...you jornalist ?...I apologize... 21:27  |  UGY the she camel 21/01/07
  112.   104 Ronnie Wolman re CHGODCK 21:32  |  KUTW 21/01/07
  113.   76. CHGODMK re Tzfonit 21:34  |  KUTW 21/01/07
  114.   81. Nadav: I am glad you have noticed what I have. 21:40  |  KUTW 21/01/07
  115.   Don?t wasting the time, In final Jordan will Palestinian state 21:49  |  e.m 21/01/07
  116.   # 91 Le Pen 21:49  |  Jel 21/01/07
  117.   # 93 Ben Yabo 22:02  |  Jel 21/01/07
  118.   KUTW: Perspectives 22:09  |  Ronnie Wolman 21/01/07
  119.   Jel: le Pen,Le Papiere and Le Poubelle 22:17  |  Ronnie Wolman 21/01/07
  120.   A Bethlehemite-#96-Likud? 22:49  |  Daniel Leopold 21/01/07
  121.   Nadav Re Tzfonit 22:56  |  Gabe1 21/01/07
  122.   Ronnie #114 re KUTW 23:21  |  Gabe1 21/01/07
  123.   Clickfool and all other residents of Britain 01:26  |  Avrum 22/01/07
  124.   # 17 Anat 04:59  |  Lynn 22/01/07
  125.   # 18 Khalid 05:04  |  Lynn 22/01/07
  126.   # 123 Avrum 05:13  |  Lynn 22/01/07
  127.   No Action Talk Only 06:57  |  Infidel 22/01/07
  128.   to #8--"the results..... 18:32  |  Observer 22/01/07
  129.   #10 *BEN JABO says.. 03:19  |  Johnboy 24/01/07
  130.   #22 Gary and Pal attitudes 03:26  |  Johnboy 24/01/07
  131.   #97 Bruriah Sarah says... 03:32  |  Johnboy 24/01/07
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