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Implement which law?
By Meron Benvenisti

Amid cabinet members' expressions of shock in response to a female settler seen abusing a Hebron family came this comment by Ephraim Sneh: "The laws of the state are not being implemented in the city with due haste, particularly regarding Israeli citizens." The deputy defense minister's words were meant as criticism of how the security forces impose law and order in Hebron, but they contained the idea that the problem lies not in the "laws of the state," but only in their "implementation."

To which laws and which state was the deputy minister referring? After all, Hebron has not been annexed to Israel, and ostensibly is subject to military rule. But in the 40th year of the occupation, a deputy minister can disregard such legal nuances and refer to Hebron as if it were annexed territory - just like any Israeli community, Israeli vehicle or Jew in the territories can be referred to as Israel's.

The education minister's directive to restore the Green Line to textbook maps stirred much response, showing that many of those who support the move believe there is an essential difference between the two sides of the Green Line: With the exception of Jerusalem and the Golan Heights, Israel did not impose its laws on the territories on the other side.

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Nothing could be more mistaken. The difference is solely in how the annexation is accomplished. Unlike the declared, comprehensive annexations of East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights, where the principle was set first and applied later, here the opposite method has been taken: annexation in a piecemeal, selective fashion until, after a few decades, the sum of the parts amount to full annexation despite the facade of "non-imposition of the law."

This fiction is convenient for all concerned. The left can keep on deluding itself that the Green Line marks open possibilities, and that rule in the territories is "military" and therefore temporary. The right can emphatically insist upon a "declarative implementation" of the law and meanwhile enjoy selective annexation, which applies only to Jews - wherein lies its cleverness.

The annexation for Jews alone has created a dual system under which rule of law is determined based on an individual's or a community's national identity. The "local" population is subject to only the original law, as amended in thousands of military injunctions. The right to choose is reserved for Jews. When it's convenient, they are Israeli citizens in every way. When it's less convenient, like when it comes to matters of higher education and especially infrastructure planning, they are subject to the local law. The latter lags behind the Israeli law, and therefore allows for manipulations.

The confrontation between the female settler and the Palestinian woman from Hebron was a clash between two parallel worlds: The Jewish woman possesses all the rights of a citizen of a free country, who is entitled to the protection of its security forces. On the other side is a woman from an occupied people, who is also entitled to protection. However, the army of the occupation forgot long ago that under international law, its role is to protect the "protected population." The army has become the settlers' militia and views the local people as hostile elements.

It's easy to condemn the vulgarity of the settler from Hebron, and it's easy to dismiss the Jewish enclave there as a gang of violent thugs. But they are only weeds that sprout from the rotten ground of the cruel regime that prevails beyond the Green Line. It's a regime based on ethnic discrimination and separation, double standards and an absence of the rule of law.

Just which law does the deputy minister wish to see applied with "all due haste"? That of the settler woman or of the Palestinian woman? In a place where laws differ and discriminate based on national and personal identities, no law prevails. What do we expect of soldiers and police officers? Not to be influenced by orders that instruct them to act in a discriminatory and selective fashion?

The outrage over the woman's crude tirade is just a distraction from the reality that prevails beyond the Green Line, where life is ostensibly normal. It won't be long before it's the liberals who are seeking to have the Green Line erased from the maps, once it has been permanently transformed from a symbol of the aspiration for peace to a line delineating the realms of apartheid.

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  1.   "annexed the jewish sections of the west bank" 11:12  |  flashman 19/01/07
  2.   meron benvenisti goes out of his way 11:14  |  flashman 19/01/07
  3.   Has Meron Benvenisti read the charters of Hamas, IJ and Fatah 11:16  |  Ken Jurist 19/01/07
  4.   Benvenisti is a fraud 11:18  |  Joel Susser 19/01/07
  5.   meron benevisti thinks the world is shangri la 11:19  |  flashman 19/01/07
  6.   INTERNATIONAL LAW UNEXPLAINED AGAIN 11:26  |  paul harris 19/01/07
  7.   outraged? 11:38  |  doesn`t matter 19/01/07
  8.   Controversy over the term `Apartheid`? 11:52  |  fulusteen 19/01/07
  9.   #6 Hairy Paul 12:28  |  revoltop 19/01/07
  10.   About Benvenisti has one blind eye. 12:41  |  Amos 19/01/07
  11.   Benvenisti`s arguments are irrelevant: Arabs want TA, Haifa etc 12:42  |  Tomer 19/01/07
  12.   Why has Israel dragged its feet? 12:57  |  Michael A. Shoemaker 19/01/07
  13.   Meron Benvenisti proof a 1 state solution is a disaster 13:11  |  Ken Jurist 19/01/07
  14.   Are you reading this, David Teich? 13:32  |  Johnboy 19/01/07
  15.   mercenaries pals don`t have to stay there , 13:42  |  Joseph E . 19/01/07
  16.   Israelis programmed like cyborgs 14:05  |  dana 19/01/07
  17.   Use of the word Apartheid to become more common 14:28  |  tony fisher 19/01/07
  18.   Jewish presence in Palestine is illegal 14:42  |  Amin Nusseibeh 19/01/07
  19.   To Michael 14:44  |  Jup33 19/01/07
  20.   Dana :) 15:00  |  Maral 19/01/07
  21.   Tomer #11 - you prove my thesis 15:02  |  dana 19/01/07
  22.   tony fisher #17 there is no better term 15:04  |  yaakov sullivan 19/01/07
  23.   Hebron terrorists 15:08  |  Mitch Cohen 19/01/07
  24.   # 16 dana @ new york / USA 15:11  |  Joseph E . 19/01/07
  25.   #17 FISSSSSSSSHER FINDS WORD FLOATING ON THE KABAA 15:13  |  paul harris 19/01/07
  26.   Mr.Susser, Baruch Goldstein had no such lack of identity #4 15:16  |  Yaakov Sullivan 19/01/07
  27.   # 18 Amin Nusseibeh @ London / UK 15:29  |  Joseph E . 19/01/07
  28.   #16 dana, try this stimulis-response 15:34  |  Johnboy 19/01/07
  29.   # 18 Arab presence in London is a caliphated cancer 15:36  |  Joseph E . 19/01/07
  30.   to annex: invade 15:46  |  Sarah 19/01/07
  31.   fulusteen # 8 Apartheid 15:49  |  Jeff Northridge 19/01/07
  32.   Hebron is special -1929 15:55  |  Colman Klein 19/01/07
  33.   The voices were raised, hissing and spitting 16:02  |  Yaakov Sullivan 19/01/07
  34.   #12 M Shoemaker - Because it CAN`T 16:05  |  Johnboy 19/01/07
  35.   johnboy dont get your knickers in a twist 16:15  |  flashman 19/01/07
  36.   johnboy "read it everyday for a week" 16:17  |  yirmiyahu 19/01/07
  37.   Johnboy # 14 What Meaning? 16:32  |  Jeff Northridge 19/01/07
  38.   FAR FROM THE RULE OF ANYTHING--IF YOU ASK ME 16:33  |  Dutch 19/01/07
  39.   Amin Nusseibeh 16:37  |  SHIMON 19/01/07
  40.   The essence of Apartheid 16:39  |  Tosefta 19/01/07
  41.   I am shocked. Shocked! 16:43  |  Tosefta 19/01/07
  42.   Read the Bloody Gisha report 16:50  |  Marilyn 19/01/07
  43.   Dana #16 - Ditto 16:52  |  Victor Smolinsky 19/01/07
  44.   #23, flashman to Johnboy. Program N°1 in Dana`s scale of... 16:54  |  zmogus 19/01/07
  45.   #16 DANA AND HER PROBLEMS OF HISTORY 16:57  |  paul harris 19/01/07
  46.   #236 DORIS DOES NOT UNDERSTAND THE RULE OF LAW 17:04  |  paul harris 19/01/07
  47.   #22 JOHNBOY ALL OF ISRAEL IS UNDER MILITARY CONTROL 17:06  |  paul harris 19/01/07
  48.   The essence of Apartheid 17:12  |  Tosefta 19/01/07
  49.   It`s all how one says it. 17:13  |  Bimmer 19/01/07
  50.   Joseph E. # 15 Be Careful 17:14  |  Jeff Northridge 19/01/07
  51.   #18, do you even know where Palestine is? 17:17  |  David 19/01/07
  52.   As a result of WW2, Russia had annexed EAST PRUSSIA.............. 17:18  |  Vittorio 19/01/07
  53.   tosefta is certainly a loathsome individual 17:21  |  flashman 19/01/07
  54.   Apologize. Then bring the army and unsettlers home. 17:27  |  Timothy 19/01/07
  55.   dana re the two million in usa jails. 17:27  |  keats 19/01/07
  56.   Tosefta #30 17:27  |  Victor Smolinsky 19/01/07
  57.   Tosefta...need a history lesson? 17:30  |  SHIMON 19/01/07
  58.   tosefta has a hatred for israel 17:32  |  flashman 19/01/07
  59.   for the essence of tosefta 17:34  |  flashman 19/01/07
  60.   Question for AMIN and others 17:39  |  M 19/01/07
  61.   Dutch # 31 Legal Double Standards 17:47  |  Jeff Northridge 19/01/07
  62.   Tosefta # 41 Wrong! 18:07  |  Jeff Northridge 19/01/07
  63.   paul harris - You are right...Iran should realize this 18:10  |  Sa 19/01/07
  64.   Response to M 18:12  |  Tareq 19/01/07
  65.   6 - Int`l Law Supports Israel`s claim to the land 18:12  |  Bruriah Sarah 19/01/07
  66.   You don`t get it, Jeff N #62 18:20  |  Tosefta 19/01/07
  67.   #61 Jeff, You forget Israelis are the Foreigners 18:23  |  Dutch 19/01/07
  68.   "Anexed lands" 18:28  |  Peter Ganz 19/01/07
  69.   Jeff Northridge # 62 18:29  |  Victor Smolinsky 19/01/07
  70.   8 - Apartheid - The Big Lie 18:47  |  Bruriah Sarah 19/01/07
  71.   Finally an article that addresses the reality on the ground 18:50  |  Wael 19/01/07
  72.   8 - Arabs in West Bank Not Israeli citizens 18:51  |  Bruriah Sarah 19/01/07
  73.   12 - Because Hamas & Fatah Want to destroy Israel 18:53  |  Bruriah Sarah 19/01/07
  74.   #52 Vittorio. Next time inverse the argument before posting 18:56  |  zmogus 19/01/07
  75.   tosefta "better not deal with legal issues never works" 18:58  |  dubbi 19/01/07
  76.   Dutch 18:58  |  jc 19/01/07
  77.   well tosefta if the natives would stop the homicide 19:00  |  dubbi 19/01/07
  78.   implement which law 19:04  |  clearthinking 19/01/07
  79.   #18 Re: Jewish presence in Palestine is illegal 19:05  |  Dutch 19/01/07
  80.   68 - Land is Disputed, Not Occupied 19:05  |  Bruriah Sarah 19/01/07
  81.   Amin 19:05  |  jc 19/01/07
  82.   54 - Israel has legal claim to the land 19:08  |  Bruriah Sarah 19/01/07
  83.   Dana and her cyborgs 19:13  |  jc 19/01/07
  84.   52 Vittorio 19:18  |  Jabwrw Kanah 19/01/07
  85.   Tosefta # 66 That Is What I Said 19:19  |  Jeff Northridge 19/01/07
  86.   the virgin zmogus 19:19  |  louis 19/01/07
  87.   68 Israel is the foreign occupier --no bones about it 19:39  |  Dutch 19/01/07
  88.   Dutch # 67 Israelis As Foreigners 19:39  |  Jeff Northridge 19/01/07
  89.   Dutch 19:47  |  jc 19/01/07
  90.   68 Sarah, Israel is the Foreign occupiet-NoBones about it 19:48  |  Dutch 19/01/07
  91.   Still not getting it, Jeff #85 19:59  |  Tosefta 19/01/07
  92.   #52 Vittorio 20:18  |  Boycott 19/01/07
  93.   #86, Old wolf louis 20:20  |  zmogus 19/01/07
  94.   what to do with the settler 20:26  |  whoopsie 19/01/07
  95.   tosefta and apartheid 20:29  |  dubbi 19/01/07
  96.   # 50 Jeff Northridge @ Penn Valley / California 20:32  |  Joseph E . 19/01/07
  97.   right on Meron 20:35  |  peacelover 19/01/07
  98.   Benvenisti is more critical of Israel than Carter. 20:46  |  Jozef 19/01/07
  99.   #90 Dutch, please give me a correct lesson 20:49  |  TOMY 19/01/07
  100.   Jeff Northridge, The outlaws in charge 20:57  |  Dutch 19/01/07
  101.   Apartheid excuse; if the natives would stop the homicide 21:12  |  Tosefta 19/01/07
  102.   With all these acts and you dare complain about Jimmy Carters use 21:45  |  Bandar Michaels 19/01/07
  103.   Tosefta # 91 Vacuous Definition 22:12  |  Jeff Northridge 19/01/07
  104.   #100 Dutch, As you stating 22:30  |  TOMY 19/01/07
  105.   Tosefta - Patient Northridge Is Terminal 22:30  |  Victor Smolinsky 19/01/07
  106.   #101Tell me Tosefta 22:36  |  TOMY 19/01/07
  107.   #79, Dutch, Jews are native to Israel, Arabs to Arabia 22:53  |  David 19/01/07
  108.   Arbitrary definitions (Jeff Northridge #103) 23:00  |  Tosefta 19/01/07
  109.   A difficult patient (Victor Smolinsky #105) 23:08  |  Tosefta 19/01/07
  110.   THE CRIME OF APARTHEID: LEGAL DEFINITION 1 23:12  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 19/01/07
  111.   Let me tell you, Tomy #106 23:13  |  Tosefta 19/01/07
  112.   OK Tosefta #109 - Jeff Northridge? 23:26  |  Victor Smolinsky 19/01/07
  113.   CRIME OF APARTHEID: LEGAL DEFINITION 2 23:29  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 19/01/07
  114.   Victor Smolinsky # 105 Bantustans 23:30  |  Jeff Northridge 19/01/07
  115.   #67 DORIS AER ALL AMERICANS FOREIGNERS TOO 23:43  |  paul harris 19/01/07
  116.   #99 Tomy, Why should I give you a history lesson? 23:43  |  Dutch 19/01/07
  117.   THE CRIME OF APARTHEID: LEGAL DEFINITION 3 23:48  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 19/01/07
  118.   Tosefta # 108 Your Definitions... 23:54  |  Jeff Northridge 19/01/07
  119.   THE CRIME OF APARTHEID: LEGAL DEFINITION 4 00:04  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 20/01/07
  120.   David..Isreal kept it`snative arabs???? 00:08  |  John 20/01/07
  121.   THE CRIME OF APARTHEID: LEGAL DEFINITION 5 00:15  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 20/01/07
  122.   #80 Bruriah Sarah and "disputed land" 01:03  |  Johnboy 20/01/07
  123.   cipora julianna kohn # 110 01:15  |  dubious 20/01/07
  124.   cipora julianna kohn # 117 01:22  |  dubious 20/01/07
  125.   cipora julianna kohn # 121 01:25  |  dubious 20/01/07
  126.   dubious 01:54  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 20/01/07
  127.   #100 The Arabs aren`t forcing Israelis into violence .... .. 01:56  |  Dutch 20/01/07
  128.   #120, John..it was war 02:01  |  David 20/01/07
  129.   Blowing smoke 02:14  |  Michael N 20/01/07
  130.   Aparteid? Agree with Ms. Kohn.. 02:15  |  albert amato 20/01/07
  131.   Tosefta # 109 Logic 02:16  |  Jeff Northridge 20/01/07
  132.   #127, DUTCH 02:21  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 20/01/07
  133.   80 Bruriah Sarah - Occupation and Land 02:26  |  Mark of Lewiston 20/01/07
  134.   Blowing smoke #2 02:34  |  Michael N 20/01/07
  135.   Cipora Julianna Kohn # Various Posts 02:36  |  Jeff Northridge 20/01/07
  136.   Jeff Northridge #114 (2nd Try) 02:40  |  Victor Smolinsky 20/01/07
  137.   Blowing smoke #3 02:49  |  Michael N 20/01/07
  138.   Definition of Apartheid (Bird from Outerspace #110) 02:54  |  Tosefta 20/01/07
  139.   #135, Jeff Northridge 03:07  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 20/01/07
  140.   Michael N # 129 UNSCR 242 04:07  |  Jeff Northridge 20/01/07
  141.   #116: DOOTCH, SPARE US THE HIST`RY BUNK! 04:23  |  Arslaq al-Kabir 20/01/07
  142.   Jozef.... 04:34  |  John 20/01/07
  143.   David..Isreal kept it`s native arabs???? 04:45  |  John 20/01/07
  144.   Michael N # 137 The ICC 05:05  |  Jeff Northridge 20/01/07
  145.   Cipora Julianna Kohn # 139 My X`s 05:35  |  Jeff Northridge 20/01/07
  146.   #141 re 242 #2 05:49  |  Michael N 20/01/07
  147.   Hebron - Levinger - Tel Rumedia 05:55  |  BP 20/01/07
  148.   Hi Brurian Sarah. 06:32  |  Timothy 20/01/07
  149.   Eretz Israel is one state 07:28  |  keith 20/01/07
  150.   response to Sarah, 82 07:34  |  arab 20/01/07
  151.   #144 re ICC and deliberate subversion 07:42  |  Michael N 20/01/07
  152.   #122 "disputed land" 07:43  |  keith 20/01/07
  153.   Jeff Northridge re mathematics 07:55  |  Michael N 20/01/07
  154.   #136, Victor Smolinsky 08:06  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 20/01/07
  155.   tosefta killings are done by the natives 08:50  |  dubbi 20/01/07
  156.   i invite readers make a comparison 08:52  |  dubbi 20/01/07
  157.   tosefta "when a land is colonised by foreigners" 08:57  |  yossi 20/01/07
  158.   tosefta "the jews colonise the hills of judea and samaria" 09:00  |  yossi 20/01/07
  159.   victor smolensky your interlocutor on apartheid 09:03  |  ezra baqqal 20/01/07
  160.   tosefta and apartheid "carter said so" 09:06  |  flashman 20/01/07
  161.   tosefta and the fourteen jews 09:09  |  flashman 20/01/07
  162.   #153, Michael N 09:12  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 20/01/07
  163.   carter and his accusation 09:12  |  flashman 20/01/07
  164.   few have remarked on carter`s enthusiastic 09:50  |  sassoon 20/01/07
  165.   michael n "free to subvert" 09:56  |  flashman 20/01/07
  166.   michael n "the icc and the united nations" 09:58  |  dubbi 20/01/07
  167.   michael n the fault is not in the un and the icc 10:00  |  dubbi 20/01/07
  168.   michael n 2=2=5 10:02  |  dubbi 20/01/07
  169.   michael n "you believe the territories are 10:04  |  dubbi 20/01/07
  170.   low and offensive blows from michael n 10:08  |  dubbi 20/01/07
  171.   Victor Smolinsky, #43 - how could I forget 10:37  |  dana 20/01/07
  172.   Johnboy #28 - Done 10:40  |  dana 20/01/07
  173.   paul harris #43 - Oops, another one I forgot 12:51  |  dana 20/01/07
  174.   Keats #55 - excellent Example of 12:57  |  dana 20/01/07
  175.   Meron & his minority Co`s opinion vs. facts on the ground 13:14  |  Momo 20/01/07
  176.   # 8 fulusteen, from Bethlehem, Israel 13:48  |  Josef 20/01/07
  177.   Dana #16 13:50  |  S 20/01/07
  178.   Were you not part of it ? 13:51  |  Pete 20/01/07
  179.   #162 CJK re apartheid 14:06  |  Michael N 20/01/07
  180.   Isreals responsibility 14:38  |  Archangel 20/01/07
  181.   juliana cohn 126 14:47  |  dubious 20/01/07
  182.   All Right Cipora # 154, I`ll Bite... 15:11  |  Victor Smolinsky 20/01/07
  183.   dana some more "deflection" for you 16:15  |  keats 20/01/07
  184.   the jew haters johnboy and dana get into an unwholesome 16:18  |  ephraim 20/01/07
  185.   michael n "the opppression of one racial 16:24  |  yom tov 20/01/07
  186.   michael n "i wish i could follow the logic behind 16:25  |  yom tov 20/01/07
  187.   michael n "apartheid is defined by the sum 16:29  |  yom tov 20/01/07
  188.   michael n "israel has annexed etc etc" 16:32  |  ephraim 20/01/07
  189.   dana "i thought the palestinians excepted 16:36  |  ephraim 20/01/07
  190.   dana re programming and upgrade 16:38  |  ephraim 20/01/07
  191.   victor smolensky "alright i`ll bite" 16:41  |  menahem schiff 20/01/07
  192.   victor smolenski gs? 16:42  |  ephraim 20/01/07
  193.   oh the golani syrians smolenski 16:46  |  ephraim 20/01/07
  194.   dana and "jailbirds" 16:58  |  keats 20/01/07
  195.   Michael N # 179 How Convenient 16:59  |  Jeff Northridge 20/01/07
  196.   dana "perversion" 17:00  |  ephraim 20/01/07
  197.   Victor Smolinsky #182 re Cipora 17:08  |  Tosefta 20/01/07
  198.   to the hizb won brigade 17:10  |  killjoy 20/01/07
  199.   Return of the multi-headed hydra (aka "flashman") 17:14  |  Tosefta 20/01/07
  200.   Isreals responsibility 17:22  |  Holocaust Survival 20/01/07
  201.   #179 Misreading of terminology (Michael N re Cipora) 17:31  |  Tosefta 20/01/07
  202.   Is that a joke? 17:51  |  Anthony 20/01/07
  203.   dana what does it take for a nation to imprison 18:12  |  keats 20/01/07
  204.   smolenski gs 18:16  |  ephraim 20/01/07
  205.   DANA AND TOSEFTA HAVE MUCH IN COMMON 18:21  |  REUBEN REUBEN 20/01/07
  206.   now just suppose 18:28  |  flashman 20/01/07
  207.   and also suppose that abdullah of jordan had been 18:32  |  flashman 20/01/07
  208.   not many people know that ariel sits on high ground 18:33  |  flashman 20/01/07
  209.   not many people know that ariel sits on high ground 18:33  |  flashman 20/01/07
  210.   Victor Smolinsky #182 re Cipora 19:05  |  Tosefta 20/01/07
  211.   #179 Misreading of terminology (Michael N re Cipora) 19:06  |  Tosefta 20/01/07
  212.   Shallow 2Reubens #198 19:19  |  Tosefta 20/01/07
  213.   #16 Dana`s list of responses 19:41  |  Tosefta 20/01/07
  214.   Tosefta # 197 - Understood 19:51  |  Victor Smolinsky 20/01/07
  215.   how is it that tosefta sucks up to all the foreigners? 19:58  |  flashman 20/01/07
  216.   14: JB, little puppy, still in avoidance 19:58  |  David Teich 20/01/07
  217.   in honour of the loquacious ballistic 20:07  |  flashman 20/01/07
  218.   tosefta(policy-lite) "from outer space" 20:14  |  flashman 20/01/07
  219.   tosefta "there is a sick person" 20:16  |  flashman 20/01/07
  220.   Dana 20:19  |  Cat 20/01/07
  221.   tosefta issues a solid guarantee 20:22  |  george meredith 20/01/07
  222.   tosefta has a guarantee from assad and nasrallah 20:30  |  enid blyton 20/01/07
  223.   cat and dana 20:34  |  george meredith 20/01/07
  224.   #206 Mr.Flashman,they had attacked Israel... 20:37  |  Hastaroth 20/01/07
  225.   policy-lite tosefta "now i understand ahmedinejad" 20:51  |  browning 20/01/07
  226.   is tosefta actually taking pot shots at 20:53  |  yirmiyahu 20/01/07
  227.   Tosefta #197 (2nd Try) 21:18  |  Victor Smolinsky 20/01/07
  228.   #179,"apartheid is defined by the sum total of its acts" 21:33  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 20/01/07
  229.   #182, Victtor Smolinsky 21:39  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 20/01/07
  230.   #227 "a blathering litany of abstractions" 21:50  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 20/01/07
  231.   Maral - we try, we fail, we try again - 3rd pass 21:58  |  dana 20/01/07
  232.   To all the excited folks 22:07  |  Michael N 20/01/07
  233.   #211, "apartheid is a state of affairs" 22:11  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 20/01/07
  234.   #197, " a state that bestowes citizenship" 22:17  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 20/01/07
  235.   To all excited folks #2 22:17  |  Michael N 20/01/07
  236.   Abstraction and distraction (Victor Smolinsky #214) 22:19  |  Tosefta 20/01/07
  237.   Tosefta # 210 Reality? You Want Reality? 22:26  |  Jeff Northridge 20/01/07
  238.   #195 Jeff Northridge 22:31  |  Michael N 20/01/07
  239.   Cipora # 229 22:37  |  Victor Smolinsky 20/01/07
  240.   REUBEN #205 - Am in good company 22:45  |  dana 20/01/07
  241.   Words as bludgeons 22:55  |  sh 20/01/07
  242.   To Cat 220 and george 223 - Miaou.... 23:09  |  dana 20/01/07
  243.   Tosefta 23:21  |  Where`s Waldo 20/01/07
  244.   Keats 195, 203 - you got me on this one! 23:23  |  dana 20/01/07
  245.   Tosefta # 211 The ICC Definition 23:24  |  Jeff Northridge 20/01/07
  246.   Tosefta 23:33  |  Da Nang 20/01/07
  247.   3173 DANA LIFT HER SKIRTS TO DEBUNK HISTORY. 23:40  |  paul harris 20/01/07
  248.   Jeff Northridge # 242 00:00  |  Rod Serling 21/01/07
  249.   REUBEN #205 - Am in good company - 2nd try 00:33  |  dana 21/01/07
  250.   #236 MICHAELN AT THE GATES OF KRUGER PARK 00:36  |  paul harris 21/01/07
  251.   Michael N # 238 No, You Give It Up 00:36  |  Jeff Northridge 21/01/07
  252.   Keats #183 - Did you really mean to bring Iraq fiasco into this? 01:04  |  dana 21/01/07
  253.   #211 Tosefta 01:26  |  Michael N 21/01/07
  254.   Cat and george - a great duet 01:44  |  dana 21/01/07
  255.   #210, "people who were never citizens" 01:47  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 21/01/07
  256.   #233 CJK v s Tosefta -some progress made 01:51  |  Michael N 21/01/07
  257.   #232, "apartheid is another appellation for separation" 01:58  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 21/01/07
  258.   #247 Jeff Northridge 02:04  |  Michael N 21/01/07
  259.   #235, "Israel on purpose has not legally annexed" 02:06  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 21/01/07
  260.   #213, Tosefta: "I was wondering..." 02:23  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 21/01/07
  261.   APARTHEID IN PRACTICE 03:20  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 21/01/07
  262.   APARTHEID INPRACTICE 2 03:32  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 21/01/07
  263.   Michael N # 252 Don`t Put Words In My Mouth 04:06  |  Jeff Northridge 21/01/07
  264.   #255 your words speak for themselves 04:55  |  Michael N 21/01/07
  265.   Rod Serling (Sic) # 245 The Twilight Zone 04:57  |  Jeff Northridge 21/01/07
  266.   Michael N 05:33  |  Oh please 21/01/07
  267.   #262 please take notice 05:58  |  Michael N 21/01/07
  268.   Why the use of "sic," Jeff(sic)? 06:01  |  Rod(sic)Serling(sic) 21/01/07
  269.   220 cat and george 223 - great fits of intellectual agility 06:18  |  dana 21/01/07
  270.   Michael N # 260 In a Word: Convergence 06:18  |  Jeff Northridge 21/01/07
  271.   Beware - Dana #239 is the other one 06:21  |  dana 21/01/07
  272.   #267, Michael N 06:25  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 21/01/07
  273.   CJK #261/2 re apartheid in practice 06:48  |  Michael N 21/01/07
  274.   CJK #261/2 re aparthaid practices #2 07:02  |  Michael N 21/01/07
  275.   Jeff Northridge 140 07:14  |  BMH 21/01/07
  276.   What to do now 07:16  |  Melvin 21/01/07
  277.   # 263 hey jeff...how about... 08:58  |  eric 21/01/07
  278.   #267 CJK you are right 09:02  |  Michael N 21/01/07
  279.   #274, Michael N 09:20  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 21/01/07
  280.   Further info regarding 261/2 re aprtheid laws 09:20  |  Michael N 21/01/07
  281.   Further info #2 09:30  |  Michael N 21/01/07
  282.   Hey Melvin(sic)? # 276 09:45  |  Rod(sic)Serling(sic) 21/01/07
  283.   # 260 golly miss julianna... 11:48  |  eric 21/01/07
  284.   eric #283 great post, but will Cipora understand? 12:09  |  dana 21/01/07
  285.   Dutch, #79 19:42  |  Bruce 21/01/07
  286.   # 284 not likely, dana; i`ll just be labeled 21:11  |  eric 21/01/07
  287.   For Dutch (Doris) Martin Luther King Jr. quotes 22:01  |  Bruce 21/01/07
  288.   #283, eric, I am no "babe"; grow up 00:55  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 22/01/07
  289.   # 288 cipora, please accept my apology 07:58  |  eric 22/01/07
  290.   280: Michael, are you claiming it`s not a "conflict zone" 09:22  |  David Teich 22/01/07
  291.   #285 Bruce, My Response 22:30  |  Dutch 22/01/07
  292.   Meron , Look at it this way...Israeli law 01:21  |  Dutch 23/01/07
  293.   292: Poor Dutch and her drivel 16:24  |  David Teich 23/01/07
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