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Ehud Olmert and Condoleezza Rice shaking hands during their meeting in Jerusalem on Monday. (Reuters)
Last update - 03:45 16/01/2007
Haniyeh blasts Rice for bringing 'perilous vision' to Middle East
By Aluf Benn and Yoav Stern, Haaretz Correspondents, and the Associated Press

Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh of Hamas on Monday accused U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice of bringing a "perilous vision" to the region, shortly after she announced plans to join an Israeli-Palestinian summit in the coming weeks.

Later Monday, Haniyeh said Hamas would never recognize Israel.

Haniyeh said in an interview from Gaza with Hezbollah's al-Manar television: "Hamas will never recognize the legitimacy of the occupation (Israel)."

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"Hamas will never show flexibility over the issue of recognizing the legitimacy of the occupation," he added.

Haniyeh also said there had been "an encouraging start" to efforts aimed at forming a Palestinian national unity government with rival movement Fatah.

"I am full of hope that these efforts could succeed and I hope that the national unity government could see the light in the nearest time possible if the intentions were honest," he said.

Haniyeh renewed his rejection of Abbas's election call.

He said Hamas would never agree to conditions set by Western powers, which also included accepting previous interim peace accords signed in the 1990s by the Palestine Liberation Organization with Israel.

Haniyeh also confirmed for the first time that factions had listed jailed Fatah leader Marwan Barghouthi among those they wanted freed. Barghouthi was jailed by an Israeli court for five life terms for ordering attacks on Israelis - as part of a Palestinian uprising which erupted in 2000 - charges he denied.

Israel has in the past refused to free prisoners with "blood on their hands."

Haniyeh said Rice, who is in the Middle East in hopes of restarting peace efforts, is trying to "sedate" the Palestinians with promises of easing Israeli restrictions while really serving Israel's interests.

"She is bringing a perilous vision that everyone should be wary of," Haniyeh said. "It seems obvious the Bush administration will not exert any pressures on Israel to offer any substantial concessions to the Palestinian people."

Rice is seeking to bolster the moderate Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas, in his standoff against Hamas. Those efforts include more than $80 million in assistance to Abbas' Presidential Guard.

Haniyeh called the aid to Abbas "dangerous" and said it would only worsen recent infighting between Hamas and Abbas' Fatah movement.

Meanwhile, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said Monday that while he was in favor of a three-way summit, bilateral talks between Israel and the Palestinians must also continue.

U.S. officials said after Olmert's three-hour meeting with Rice on Monday that the two had agreed to hold a three-way summit with Abbas in the near future.

Olmert said that the summit would "consider relations between us and the Palestinians," but added that "there is no doubt that we must - at the same time - also continue the bilateral meetings between us and them."

Senior Palestine Liberation Organization negotiator Saeb Erekat said Abbas was ready to attend the summit "in principle," but details about where and when the summit would be held were not worked out.

Erekat said Rice is reflecting a serious and genuine interest in resolving the Israeli-Palestinian crisis. "What she said is that President Bush, in the remaining two years of his office, has no more important priority than to leave office with a Palestinian state alongside Israel. He wants to see his vision realized," he said.

A senior U.S. official in Rice's delegation said the "trilateral meeting" would be aimed at "having a conversation about the political horizon leading to the establishment of a Palestinian state."

Olmert's spokeswoman, Miri Eisin, said no date or place had been set for the summit.

The U.S. official said the meeting would likely take place in the next three or four weeks somewhere in the Middle East.

Speaking to his Kadima faction after meeting with Rice, Olmert said that the internationally brokered road map continues to be the basis for the peace process, and that there was "no substitute for bilateral negotiations" with the Palestinians.

He said that if a Palestinian unity government made up of Hamas and Fatah agreed to accept the three key international demands for recognition of Israel, the renunciation of violence and acceptance of previous accords, then negotiations could be possible.

No details of the talks between Olmert and Rice were formally released, but the prime minister had been expected to tell the secretary of state that Israel would take "unprecedented steps" vis-a-vis the Palestinians, if the Hamas-led PA government met the criteria spelled out by the Quartet.

The meeting between Olmert and Rice was also called to discuss ways to boost Abbas' standing, as a means to further the diplomatic process between Israel and the Palestinians.

The prime minister was to stress that his is a "peace government" but without the Palestinians meeting the three international preconditions it is impossible to more forward.

Olmert was also expected to warn that the establishment of a Palestinian government of national unity, which does not adopt the preconditions set by the Quartet, will bring an end to Israel's efforts to support Abbas.

On Sunday, Shin Bet security service chief Yuval Diskin told the cabinet that the violence between Fatah and Hamas, which led to the deaths of 20 people last week, was considered by the Palestinians as crossing a "red line." He added that this could result in greater flexibility on the part of the factions in agreeing on a government of national unity.

Political sources in Jerusalem said on Sunday that "the Palestinians are now talking about the division of ministerial portfolios in the new government, without committing themselves to accept the Quartet preconditions."

Meanwhile, in an interview on Channel 10 on Sunday, Rice said the road map must be implemented and there is no reason to skip over any of its stages. Her comment was in part referring to an earlier rejection by Abbas of the idea that the second stage of the road map - calling for a Palestinian state based on temporary borders - was a realistic possibility at this stage.

She also said that in her talks with Abbas on Sunday, he had reiterated his wish and willingness to carry out Palestinian obligations laid out in the road map.

Following their meeting in Ramallah on Sunday, Abbas announced that he would not agree to a Palestinian state within temporary borders, as is proposed in the second stage of the road map. "We do not consider this possibility a realistic one that we can build on," the Palestinian leader said.

Other Palestinian officials also voiced their opposition to such an arrangement, saying that it would stymie progress toward a final settlement.

Rice said that the U.S. intends to deepen its involvement in the peace process, aiming to restart it on the basis of the road map.

There have been reports in recent days that a summit of the leaderships of both Fatah and Hamas is being organized in Damascus, with the specific aim of finalizing an agreement for a national unity government. Abbas denied that any such meeting is scheduled to take place.

According to the reports, the leader of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, Sheikh Mohammed Akef, was instrumental in convincing Khaled Meshal, the head of Hamas' political bureau, and Abbas to meet in order to iron out their differences.

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  1.   Olmert - be sure to have the rifles you`ve 03:19  |  * BEN JABO 15/01/07
  2.   and the other shoe must be recognize israel, no more rockets or a 03:49  |  ralph 15/01/07
  3.   Let Israel Recognize a free independent Palestine 03:58  |  MOE 15/01/07
  4.   OLMERT IS A DEFEATIST WHO WILL ALWAYS CAVE IN TO THE TERRORISTS 04:01  |  DAN ROSENTHAL 15/01/07
  5.   Yalla Olmert show some initiative & clean up this terror PLO mess 04:10  |  Joseph E . 15/01/07
  6.   yes the PA need to and Israel need too 04:42  |  Simon Mohammed 15/01/07
  7.   "unprecedented steps" 06:00  |  Raed 15/01/07
  8.   Israel must recognize Palestine before Palestine could 06:09  |  Emmanuel Abdullah 15/01/07
  9.   PA unity gov`t must recognize Israel`s right to exist, but it ... 06:40  |  Nadav 15/01/07
  10.   palestinian state 06:42  |  bounce 15/01/07
  11.   come on now Moe 06:48  |  bev 15/01/07
  12.   simon mohammed 06:54  |  bev 15/01/07
  13.   #11 Bev, a couple of points..... 07:27  |  Johnboy 15/01/07
  14.   Does "recognition" mean agreement thaIsrael has right to exist? 07:29  |  Yitzhak 15/01/07
  15.   shaft the rotten apples and the other dudes are welcome 07:36  |  nehemia dB 15/01/07
  16.   #12 Bev. Now, that`s better...... 07:36  |  Johnboy 15/01/07
  17.   MOE, a Palestinian Arab state has never existed to be recognized. 07:54  |  Nadav 15/01/07
  18.   #14 Yitzhak, what "recognition" means is this... 07:55  |  Johnboy 15/01/07
  19.   Olmert,Speak 4 yourself 08:05  |  dave 15/01/07
  20.   ROAD MAP IS DEAD 08:30  |  D Bleiberg 15/01/07
  21.   THE HOT AIR BLOWS FOR 58 YEARS ; HOPE SPRINGS ETERNAL 08:55  |  paul harris 15/01/07
  22.   #18 Johnboy,what about the right of return.... 09:07  |  Hastaroth 15/01/07
  23.   Olmert & The Holiest Trust. 09:35  |  Akram Zekaria 15/01/07
  24.   Ehud, stop being such a lackey! 09:37  |  Michael A. Shoemaker 15/01/07
  25.   #20, ISRAEL killed the Road Map 09:55  |  Fritz 15/01/07
  26.   Those who oppose peace 10:01  |  Jamal M Alhamed 15/01/07
  27.   re: Nadav #9 10:01  |  Paulo 15/01/07
  28.   re: Nadav #17 10:04  |  Paulo 15/01/07
  29.   P.alestinians must change there names 10:09  |  Billy Jack 15/01/07
  30.   Jamal M Alhamed 10:18  |  Simple Tom 15/01/07
  31.   johnboy 10:31  |  bev 15/01/07
  32.   #13 AND MORE TOTAL CRAP FROM JOHN BOY. 10:41  |  paul harris 15/01/07
  33.   #25 FRITZ IT WORKS BOTH WAYS MOVE THE ARABS 10:43  |  paul harris 15/01/07
  34.   re: Paulo vs. Nadav 10:47  |  Anita 15/01/07
  35.   #23, Akram Zakaria: "The Holiest Trust" 10:51  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 15/01/07
  36.   paul Harris 10:58  |  bev 15/01/07
  37.   Unprecedented steps..... 11:01  |  Esther 15/01/07
  38.   Scrap the Roadmap to War. New peace plan needed. 11:14  |  Yacov 15/01/07
  39.   Nice photo 11:14  |  Clickfool 15/01/07
  40.   Eww... 11:23  |  Abraham 15/01/07
  41.   unprecedented steps 11:25  |  happysettler 15/01/07
  42.   Olmer buying the same Brooklyn-bridge all over again 11:52  |  Absolute Sweden 15/01/07
  43.   What "unprecedent steps"? For what? 12:05  |  Shlomo from Tel-Aviv 15/01/07
  44.   summit for summit 12:16  |  Emad Moussa 15/01/07
  45.   as usual, Israel lets the terrorists decide 12:27  |  Ernst 15/01/07
  46.   10 Good Uses For the Road Map to Peace 12:45  |  Klaudia 15/01/07
  47.   Peace only after defeating the mullahs 12:56  |  Jonathan S 15/01/07
  48.   Arroz con Olmert 12:57  |  Chaim Gorenstein 15/01/07
  49.   32: paul harris like its gonna happen 12:58  |  Tamir Gaza 15/01/07
  50.   36: bev 13:03  |  Tamir Gaza 15/01/07
  51.   HOW COWARD! 13:07  |  indrajaya 15/01/07
  52.   #36 BEV THINKS WHAT SHE SAYS IS BRAND NEW 13:12  |  paul harris 15/01/07
  53.   Which Israel? 13:49  |  Forde 15/01/07
  54.   Summit w/Abbas 13:49  |  Darwish 15/01/07
  55.   tamir 14:20  |  bev 15/01/07
  56.   Peace--Gift to all humanity 14:23  |  Sirat 15/01/07
  57.   There is only one way to push Palestinians into peace 14:27  |  Gili 15/01/07
  58.   # 18 Johnboy 14:42  |  Lynn 15/01/07
  59.   to bev 14:49  |  Tamir Gaza 15/01/07
  60.   # 26 Jamak 14:54  |  Lynn 15/01/07
  61.   # 45 Ernst 15:01  |  Lynn 15/01/07
  62.   #33, Paul Harris 15:04  |  Fritz 15/01/07
  63.   Is Abbas trustworthy? 15:07  |  Ian 15/01/07
  64.   Clickfool (#39) 15:07  |  christoph 15/01/07
  65.   Three losers 15:15  |  Sidney 15/01/07
  66.   START with final status talks 15:19  |  The Red Dog 15/01/07
  67.   # 48 bev 15:21  |  Lynn 15/01/07
  68.   # 47 Darwish 15:27  |  Lynn 15/01/07
  69.   For Gili in Montreal # 50 15:30  |  Clickfool 15/01/07
  70.   `Somewhere in the Middle East` 15:46  |  Ronnie Wolman 15/01/07
  71.   #25 FRITZ. After WW2 "SETTLERS from RUSSIA" were brought to EAST 15:49  |  Vittorio 15/01/07
  72.   "dog and ponty"show doomed to failure 16:01  |  r 15/01/07
  73.   Reply to Ian (Post No. 63) 16:02  |  Johnny Weintraub 15/01/07
  74.   Clickfool to Gili (#69) 16:15  |  christoph 15/01/07
  75.   #71, Vittorio on the right to annex foreign territory 16:15  |  Fritz 15/01/07
  76.   To Vittorio about hypocritical Israel-bashers 16:22  |  Jonathan S 15/01/07
  77.   Roadmap, Roadblock, and Blockheads 16:29  |  Tosefta 15/01/07
  78.   A mistake, however made sure Hamas signs off 17:01  |  Rick 15/01/07
  79.   #62 FRITZ YOU ARE NEGATIVE AND BEHIND THE TIMES OF HISTORY 17:21  |  paul harris 15/01/07
  80.   Bilateral - without Hamas? 17:22  |  Freezer 15/01/07
  81.   Tosefta # 77 Very Good Post 17:26  |  Jeff Northridge 15/01/07
  82.   tamir 17:31  |  bev 15/01/07
  83.   Glad we finally agree (Jeff Northridge #81) 17:51  |  Tosefta 15/01/07
  84.   #66 RED DOG IN 58 YEARS OF TRYING IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED 18:03  |  paul harris 15/01/07
  85.   To: nehemia dB - there are 2 sides to that coin 18:12  |  John 15/01/07
  86.   bev, same as in Israel 18:16  |  Tamir Gaza 15/01/07
  87.   HAMAS & FATAH WANT TO DESTROY ISRAEL 18:22  |  Bruriah Sarah 15/01/07
  88.   Come On Get Going Already 18:23  |  Jane 15/01/07
  89.   75 - History Lesson 18:31  |  Bruriah Sarah 15/01/07
  90.   75 - Israel has legal rights 18:33  |  Bruriah Sarah 15/01/07
  91.   No way for Europe to enter #77 18:46  |  Jonathan S 15/01/07
  92.   Haniyeh Sees Peace As Peril, Truth As Lies ... 19:05  |  Lavi 15/01/07
  93.   to 78 Hamas and Fatah. 19:10  |  DANNY. 15/01/07
  94.   # 78 US demanded 19:23  |  Lynn 15/01/07
  95.   Maybe misinterpretation of situation 19:31  |  christoph 15/01/07
  96.   Sounds like ereket is lying already 19:39  |  Bimmer 15/01/07
  97.   Fritz # 75 The UN and History 19:58  |  Jeff Northridge 15/01/07
  98.   to the moderator.............. 20:03  |  Philip Lundquist 15/01/07
  99.   to #94 Lynn - You are correct... in a way 20:08  |  Bimmer 15/01/07
  100.   to #93 Danny -- I agree. 20:09  |  Bimmer 15/01/07
  101.   Tosefta 20:12  |  Lynn 15/01/07
  102.   # 53 Which Israel? 20:15  |  mhung 15/01/07
  103.   Lavi # 92 PM Haniyeh 20:26  |  Jeff Northridge 15/01/07
  104.   #99 Bimmer 20:28  |  Lynn 15/01/07
  105.   Haniyeh should stop talking BS 20:37  |  Swiss (Dino) 15/01/07
  106.   # 58 Lynn 20:43  |  mhung 15/01/07
  107.   # 103 Jeff Northridge 20:55  |  Swiss (Dino) 15/01/07
  108.   Militias (Lynn #101) 21:03  |  Tosefta 15/01/07
  109.   to #104 Lynn: Democracy - the fatal flaw 21:10  |  Bimmer 15/01/07
  110.   Meanwhile In Iraq 21:13  |  Jeff Northridge 15/01/07
  111.   The Charter (Swiss #107; Jeff N # 103) 21:24  |  Tosefta 15/01/07
  112.   # 106 mhung 21:46  |  Lynn 15/01/07
  113.   # 105 Swiss 21:47  |  Lynn 15/01/07
  114.   Palestinian problem is no priority 21:51  |  Jonathan S 15/01/07
  115.   RECOGNIZE?? which Borders of Israel 21:56  |  Needham 15/01/07
  116.   perilous vision 21:58  |  Shmuelshachor 15/01/07
  117.   Palestinian State & Bush 22:17  |  Darwish 15/01/07
  118.   # 111 Tosefta 22:20  |  Swiss (Dino) 15/01/07
  119.   Haniyeh is talking but he just came back from Teheran 22:22  |  Ronnie Wolman 15/01/07
  120.   "Accepting the `Rosd Map` " 22:27  |  Michael N 15/01/07
  121.   # 113 Lynn 22:34  |  Swiss (Dino) 15/01/07
  122.   "perilous vision" 22:42  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 15/01/07
  123.   Hamas has to give some kind of agreement towards recognition and 22:47  |  Smadar 15/01/07
  124.   Surprise,Suprise Rice is on the way to Riyadh 22:48  |  Ronnie Wolman 15/01/07
  125.   Tosefta #77 22:50  |  TonyL 15/01/07
  126.   #111, "the Jewish Torah;"is there another Torah? 22:52  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 15/01/07
  127.   Totally agree Jeff Northridge 22:55  |  sh 15/01/07
  128.   Pre-conditions (Swiss #118) 23:02  |  Tosefta 15/01/07
  129.   steps to the road to peace 23:18  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 15/01/07
  130.   Haniyeh-worthless PM!! 23:20  |  The Truth 15/01/07
  131.   1)35#Cipora:Answers for your `How`& others `Whys`. 23:21  |  Akram Zekaria 15/01/07
  132.   Mediation (TonyL #125) 23:26  |  Tosefta 15/01/07
  133.   Israel needs a leader who can declare Road Map dead 23:27  |  Hal 15/01/07
  134.   #128, pre-conditions 23:28  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 15/01/07
  135.   Three-state remedy.... 23:31  |  Blogowitz 15/01/07
  136.   Where, O Where, O where is Yosemite... 23:33  |  Webster 15/01/07
  137.   Bev...Please read.Perhaps Jimmy Carter can make sense for you. 23:54  |  Toronto`s Finest 15/01/07
  138.   Paul Harris: Stop Shouting 23:59  |  Standish 15/01/07
  139.   2)35#Cipora:Answers for your `Hows` & others `Whys`. 00:08  |  Akram Zekaria 16/01/07
  140.   he Palestinian Authority`s hemming and hawing. 00:38  |  sandra chitayat 16/01/07
  141.   # 121 Getting caught with 00:39  |  Lynn 16/01/07
  142.   #22 Hastaroth and right of return 00:40  |  Johnboy 16/01/07
  143.   # 117 Bilateral Talks 00:41  |  Lynn 16/01/07
  144.   #31 Bev 00:49  |  Johnboy 16/01/07
  145.   3)35# Cipora:Answers for your `Hows` & others `Whys`. 00:58  |  Akram Zekaria 16/01/07
  146.   #32 More lack of basic comprehension from Paul Harris 01:00  |  Johnboy 16/01/07
  147.   Poor unrecognised Israel. 01:04  |  Maureen Ann 16/01/07
  148.   `perilous vision` 01:04  |  VICTIMSofARAB TERROR 16/01/07
  149.   # 130 Lynn 01:06  |  Swiss (Dino) 16/01/07
  150.   DONT BE MISGUIDED 01:09  |  DANNY 16/01/07
  151.   #58 Lynn 01:13  |  Johnboy 16/01/07
  152.   Business as usual 01:22  |  Nechama 16/01/07
  153.   Olmert, do you feel stupid or what???? 01:25  |  Nechama 16/01/07
  154.   #Bruriah Sarah - potted history lesson 01:29  |  Johnboy 16/01/07
  155.   1)35#Cipora: Answers for you `Hows` & others `Whys. 01:30  |  Akram Zekaria 16/01/07
  156.   Cipora Julianna Kohn #129 I totally agree with you! 01:32  |  Nechama 16/01/07
  157.   #90 Bruriah Sarah makes some odd claims 01:37  |  Johnboy 16/01/07
  158.   Haaretz editor 01:38  |  Brant 16/01/07
  159.   Akram Zakaria: "Israel must not lose its focus" 01:41  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 16/01/07
  160.   THERE MUST NEVER BE A "PALESTINIAN STATE" AND WILL NEVER BE 01:50  |  20X20 16/01/07
  161.   #97 Jeff makes some mistakes Part 1 01:56  |  Johnboy 16/01/07
  162.   Maureen #147 unrecognized Israel..reminds me of a joke 01:58  |  albert amato 16/01/07
  163.   #97 Jeff makes some mistakes Part 2 02:04  |  Johnboy 16/01/07
  164.   Tosefta #132 02:06  |  TonyL 16/01/07
  165.   johnboy-#146-zionist regime? 02:24  |  Daniel Leopold 16/01/07
  166.   # 151 Johnboy 02:26  |  Lynn 16/01/07
  167.   # 149 Swiss 02:33  |  Lynn 16/01/07
  168.   Maureen Ann-#147-World peace 02:33  |  Daniel Leopold 16/01/07
  169.   Cipora Juliana Kohn 02:43  |  Lynn 16/01/07
  170.   Haniyeh & Hamas 02:47  |  Domingo 16/01/07
  171.   "stymie progess towards final settlement"--say what??? 02:47  |  Voice of Reason 16/01/07
  172.   Palestinian PM accuses Rice of bringing ""perrilous vision""... 02:53  |  Daniel Leopold 16/01/07
  173.   Johnboy - Internally displaced Jews 03:29  |  Reid 16/01/07
  174.   Paalo on Nadav 03:40  |  Reid 16/01/07
  175.   Paulo on Nadav 03:40  |  Reid 16/01/07
  176.   Paulo on Nadav 03:46  |  Reid 16/01/07
  177.   # 167 Lynn 03:52  |  Swiss (Dino) 16/01/07
  178.   Ernst 04:01  |  Reid 16/01/07
  179.   #173 Reid, no, I`m not anti-Israeli 04:42  |  Johnboy 16/01/07
  180.   #166 Lynn 04:52  |  Johnboy 16/01/07
  181.   #165 Daniel Leopold 05:09  |  Johnboy 16/01/07
  182.   #94 Hey there Lynn 05:15  |  ballistic 16/01/07
  183.   #109 agree with your insightful post, now what 05:20  |  ballistic 16/01/07
  184.   Israel should be supporting Fatah against the much worse Hamas. 05:24  |  Devin Leonard 16/01/07
  185.   #110 Jeff--er, that is the second 05:25  |  ballistic 16/01/07
  186.   Johnboy-#179-not anti-Israeli 05:30  |  Daniel Leopold 16/01/07
  187.   #133 Ha, dare you to find one--- 05:33  |  ballistic 16/01/07
  188.   #147 Hey Maurren, liked your post--- 05:35  |  ballistic 16/01/07
  189.   #151 Great post Johnboy 05:38  |  ballistic 16/01/07
  190.   Rosner`s unforgiveable disservice to Jews 05:46  |  Hannah 16/01/07
  191.   what`s with the translation 05:50  |  Pssd Off American 16/01/07
  192.   Ms Rice, continually dancing Hava Negila 05:58  |  Hannah 16/01/07
  193.   Johnboy-#165-Ideology and reality 06:17  |  Daniel Leopold 16/01/07
  194.   #169, Lynn 06:17  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 16/01/07
  195.   EXCELLENT, HANIYEH 06:34  |  indrajaya 16/01/07
  196.   So-called "Hannah" thinks that Ms.Rice is dancing Hava Nagila.... 06:58  |  Vittorio 16/01/07
  197.   Condoleeza Rice For President! 07:44  |  Yosemite 16/01/07
  198.   #186 Daniel - well, THAT`s a broad brush you`ve got there. 07:55  |  Johnboy 16/01/07
  199.   Haniyeh should talk about "perilous vision." Hamas is the problem 08:16  |  Marwan مروان خوري 16/01/07
  200.   #25 Fritz and the 267,000 Israeli settlers in the West Bank 08:22  |  hala 16/01/07
  201.   Indrajaya! How Come You Use That Word "Embarass" So Much? 08:38  |  Yosemite 16/01/07
  202.   Haniyeh--Never give into the tyrants in Israel 08:57  |  Dutch 16/01/07
  203.   # 197, YOSEMITE 09:10  |  indrajaya 16/01/07
  204.   #196, so-called Vittorio 09:11  |  Hannah 16/01/07
  205.   Johnboy-#198-Between relevant and ridiculous 09:18  |  Daniel Leopold 16/01/07
  206.   #193 Daniel, stop whacking that horse - its dead! 09:29  |  Johnboy 16/01/07
  207.   3147 mo and no brainers N.KOREA AL QUAIDA IRAN SUDAN 09:42  |  paul harris 16/01/07
  208.   re: Reid #174-176 09:46  |  Paulo 16/01/07
  209.   #51 Indra 10:17  |  Willy 16/01/07
  210.   There is already a Palestinian Arab State 11:05  |  Gad 16/01/07
  211.   #205 Daniel, you don`t even read the posts, do you 15:07  |  Johnboy 16/01/07
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