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Hamas' Damascus-based political chief Khaled Meshal speaking during an interview with Reuters on Wednesday.
Last update - 07:53 11/01/2007
Hamas denies Meshal said group would consider recognizing Israel
By Avi Issacharoff, Haaretz Correspondent, Haaretz Service and Reuters

Hamas denied Wednesday that its Damascus-based political chief Khaled Meshal told Reuters in an interview that his group would consider recognizing Israel once a Palestinian state is established. (Click here for the full interview)

One hour after the Reuters interview was published, the Hamas government spokesman Ghazi Hamad told Haaretz that Meshal said, "Israel exists - and that's a fact."

However, Hamad maintained that Meshal did not say anything about recognizing Israel. "There was no change in our stance that Hamas does not recognize Israel," he said.

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Salah Bardawil, head of Hamas's parliamentary faction, told Haaretz that after checking with Meshal, it seems to be that his words were twisted and distorted.

"He didn't speak about any recognition of Israel, only a cease-fire with Israel," Bardawil said.

Meshal, who is considered Hamas' main power broker, told Reuters: "Israel is a "reality" and "there will remain a state called Israel, this is a matter of fact."

The problem was not Israel's existence but the failure to establish a state for Palestinians, said Meshal, whose party leads the Palestinian government.

Formal recognition of Israel could only be considered by Hamas once such a Palestinian state is established, Reuters quoted Meshal as saying.

Senior Hamas officials have already made similar statements over the past year, saying Israel's existence is an undeniable reality, but this is the first time that such statements are emanating from the group's Syria-based leadership.

This is also the first time that a Hamas official has raised the possibility of full and official recognition of Israel in the future. To date the group's official position, which Meshal had repeatedly reiterated, was that Hamas will never recognize Israel.

"The distant future will have its own circumstances and positions could be determined then," he said. Past concessions to Israel by Palestinian negotiators went unrewarded, he argued, and his Islamist group would drive hard bargains over key issues such as recognition.

"For Israel to suck us into bargains in stages and in packages - this road constitutes an attempt to weaken the Palestinian position."

Israel and Western governments have put financial sanctions on the Hamas-led Palestinian government for refusing to recognize Israel, renounce violence and accept past peace accords. Egypt has also been stepping up pressure on Hamas to recognize Israel.

Meshal said Hamas would defy the Western conditions and refuse to consider granting formal recognition to Israel until its demand for a Palestinian state was met.

Hamas wants a Palestinian state that includes Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem and the right of Palestinian refugees to return to homes lost in the 1967 Six Day War and before, Meshal said.

"As a Palestinian today I speak of a Palestinian and Arab demand for a state on 1967 borders. It is true that in reality there will be an entity or state called Israel on the rest of Palestinian land," said Meshal.

"This is a reality but I won't deal with it in terms of recognizing or admitting it," he added.

Asked about Meshal's comments, Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev responded that Hamas had said in the past it wanted to wipe Israel from the map and there was no indication it had changed its position.

Meshal also blamed "Israeli intransigence" for the delay in a deal to release captured Israel Defense Forces soldier Gilad Shalit in exchange for thousands of Palestinian prisoners. Shalit's father Noam said Wednesday he would be willing to turn himself over to his son's captors if they release the captured soldier.

"The message must reach Gilad Shalit's family that Israel bears the responsibility for prolonging his captivity," Meshal said. "There had been real progress and Egypt is making a positive effort but regrettably the talks stumbled in the last few days because of Israeli intransigence," Meshal said.

"We are keen to release Shalit as soon as possible, but only in return for Israel releasing a number of our men, women, children and Palestinian leaders in its jails," he said.

Meshal said Shalit was being given "good treatment."

"The international community is concerned for one Israeli soldier called Gilad Shalit and has memorized his name," Meshal said. "It must show concern for the suffering of 11,000 Palestinian prisoners who include 400 children and 120 women."

Egypt, Jordan to press for Israeli-Palestinian 'final status' agreement
Egypt and Jordan will press for agreement on "final status" issues between Israel and the Palestinians, Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit said on Wednesday, days before a visit by U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

Aboul Gheit told a news conference that the quest should take precedence over the Middle East peace plan known as the road map, announced by international mediators in 2003 but never fully implemented.

"There is a common position by Egypt, Jordan, the Arabs and the Palestinians calling for 'let us agree on the end of the road and let us agree on what we call ... the endgame before we talk about the road map'," he said.

Egypt has floated the same idea before, but it did so this time two days before Rice leaves on a Middle East tour billed as another drive to revive Israeli-Palestinian peace efforts.

For the past few years, peace moves have concentrated on trying to bring about small confidence-building measures, leaving aside bigger questions such as the borders of a future Palestinian state or the fate of Palestinian refugees.

The Egyptian campaign for a rethink, backed to some extent by Jordan, has made little difference to the policies of the United States, which continues to propose short-term measures by Israelis and Palestinians.

Aboul Gheit added: "The endgame has its specific concepts ... Let's agree on the frameworks of the [peace] settlement. This is the Egyptian position." He did not elaborate.

Jordanian Foreign Minister Abdelelah al-Khatib, who spoke at the same news conference, did not dispute the Egyptian minister's interpretation of Jordan's position.

"The final settlement is a Palestinian demand and an Arab demand, and there must be agreement on the final settlement whatever steps and stages it takes," Khatib added.

Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh of Hamas on Wednesday called on the Palestinians to work to prevent internal violence from exploding into an all-out civil war.

"We stress the necessity of sparing the Palestinian people any internal confrontations and to avoid using weapons as a medium for dialogue and to focus on dialogue only to solve our differences," he said before a Cabinet meeting. "The differences exist, they are there, but this does not mean that they should be solved by gun fire."

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  1.   An important statement 17:40  |  Chris Linthwaite 10/01/07
  2.   Political earthquake 17:43  |  Swiss (Dino) 10/01/07
  3.   He is right 17:51  |  Stephen Murray 10/01/07
  4.   she said yes,i said no 17:53  |  dr danielito 10/01/07
  5.   a thug and a murderer 17:57  |  flashman 10/01/07
  6.   Words are cheap, show us you mean it. 17:57  |  Gili 10/01/07
  7.   Words are cheap, show us you mean it. 17:59  |  Gili 10/01/07
  8.   Actions speak louder than words. 18:01  |  albert amato 10/01/07
  9.   Meshal`s Born Again Broadcast! 18:07  |  Lavi 10/01/07
  10.   Peace before security; not security before peace 18:07  |  Stephen Murray 10/01/07
  11.   Meshal and the Big If 18:07  |  ussishkin 10/01/07
  12.   "Reality" does not equal "right" 18:07  |  anon 10/01/07
  13.   truthiness 18:09  |  gabriel 10/01/07
  14.   meshal`s statement--let`s hear him say it in Arabic top Arabs 18:11  |  bob 10/01/07
  15.   Interesting development 18:14  |  Paul Freedman 10/01/07
  16.   #3: only one statement 18:17  |  Paul Freedman 10/01/07
  17.   How much did he get into his swiss bank account ? 18:19  |  Yankelowitz 10/01/07
  18.   to Murphy #3, Dino #2 and #8 18:21  |  Dave from Chicago 10/01/07
  19.   Israel is reality, but no recognition of this reality 18:28  |  Khalid 10/01/07
  20.   Besides, is Hamas`s recognition of Israel the real problem? 18:31  |  Khalid 10/01/07
  21.   Dino and Murphy (continued) 18:31  |  Dave from Chicago 10/01/07
  22.   Praises to Masha`al 18:32  |  Ernie 10/01/07
  23.   IS IT ALL SLIPPING SLIPPING AWAY ?? 18:37  |  paul harris 10/01/07
  24.   Wherer is the Israeli politician able to see beyond the horizon 18:37  |  Jel 10/01/07
  25.   The in which Israel and Hamas recognize each other`s "state" 18:40  |  Bill 10/01/07
  26.   Are Arabs serious or not? 18:42  |  Sam 10/01/07
  27.   Murray #10 and #14 Bob 18:42  |  Dave from Chicago 10/01/07
  28.   don`t rub his nose in it 18:43  |  aveed 10/01/07
  29.   In Hamas` Interest 18:45  |  Brian Freund 10/01/07
  30.   to #16 Paul 18:51  |  Dave from Chicago 10/01/07
  31.   It`s Up To The Israeli People To Decide 18:51  |  Yosemite 10/01/07
  32.   Why print this phony "news"? A non-event. 18:52  |  Dr. L. Brnd 10/01/07
  33.   to Khalid and Aveed 19:05  |  Dave from Chicago 10/01/07
  34.   Ball Is In Israel`s Court 19:05  |  needham 10/01/07
  35.   Did`t accept Israel as a JEWISH STATE 19:12  |  Johnny 10/01/07
  36.   Current Existence of Israel versus future attempts to destroy 19:15  |  Yitzhak 10/01/07
  37.   meaningless statement 19:15  |  ishkabibble 10/01/07
  38.   Arab proposal of 2000 19:16  |  Jel 10/01/07
  39.   It`s to Foreign Press! What do you expect? 19:16  |  Helen 10/01/07
  40.   ..the rest of Palestinian land 19:17  |  Simple Tom 10/01/07
  41.   "Entity" 19:21  |  Miransky 10/01/07
  42.   to Needham #34 19:22  |  Dave from Chicago 10/01/07
  43.   #30: I believe peace is possible 19:22  |  Paul Freedman 10/01/07
  44.   Israel is a reality; so is Palestine: natural allies! 19:24  |  David Turner 10/01/07
  45.   Khalid 19:28  |  MH 10/01/07
  46.   Natural Allies, continued 19:28  |  David Turner 10/01/07
  47.   To Tom #40 19:29  |  Brian Freund 10/01/07
  48.   Look below Mashal`s disarming words 19:29  |  John 10/01/07
  49.   # 35 Johnny 19:32  |  Swiss (Dino) 10/01/07
  50.   to Johnny, Yitzach and Simple Tom 19:33  |  Dave from Chicago 10/01/07
  51.   Hamas thinks like Egypt 19:36  |  Jeff 10/01/07
  52.   This is an Action 19:37  |  ODP 10/01/07
  53.   ...funny people... 19:40  |  UGY the she camel 10/01/07
  54.   Way to admit reality. Is the world supposed to be impressed? 19:42  |  Marwan مروان خوري 10/01/07
  55.   The issue is the Jewish people, not its state 19:58  |  Serge 10/01/07
  56.   general comment 20:02  |  BO 10/01/07
  57.   #54 20:04  |  CZ 10/01/07
  58.   #35 That`s Meshal`s notion of compromise 20:04  |  Johnny 10/01/07
  59.   David Turner # 46 lateral thinking 20:05  |  Najdt 10/01/07
  60.   CZ-57 Did you miss the Gaza pullout? 20:12  |  Aaron 10/01/07
  61.   israel 20:13  |  matt 10/01/07
  62.   Like Treating a Tax Return as an Opening Offer 20:15  |  D. Chandler 10/01/07
  63.   Exist vs. right to exist 20:18  |  rs 10/01/07
  64.   Serge very well said-people read this post. 20:20  |  The Druze 10/01/07
  65.   re: Aaron #60 20:25  |  Paulo 10/01/07
  66.   We have all been here before 20:25  |  Joe 10/01/07
  67.   Meaningless rubbish 20:28  |  Adrian de Klerk 10/01/07
  68.   Meshal`s non-offer 20:29  |  Maurice S. 10/01/07
  69.   A boil on the tuckuss: recognising reality 20:40  |  Clickfool 10/01/07
  70.   Israel is a reality 20:43  |  Leah Vanatta Fisher 10/01/07
  71.   MH: the right of return is a just cause 20:45  |  Khalid 10/01/07
  72.   Fact of existence vs Right to exist 20:45  |  Oleg 10/01/07
  73.   to Joe #66 been here before 20:50  |  Kipperraes 10/01/07
  74.   #55: might be one step towards that recognition 20:53  |  Paul Freedman 10/01/07
  75.   Meshal - Isreal is `real` 20:59  |  Sam 10/01/07
  76.   Khalid #71 20:59  |  MH 10/01/07
  77.   bad news for Israel... 21:02  |  peacelover 10/01/07
  78.   Having grown up in Michigan 21:03  |  Leah Vanatta Fisher 10/01/07
  79.   Let`s not kid ourselves... 21:12  |  Guess who 10/01/07
  80.   Johnny`s got it 21:12  |  Leah Vanatta Fisher 10/01/07
  81.   This Is Progress in the Right Direction 21:13  |  Jane 10/01/07
  82.   Where is Netaniahu when we need him-like it is 21:15  |  The Druze 10/01/07
  83.   The Syrian Reportage 21:16  |  Giles K 10/01/07
  84.   Right of return is crux of the matter 21:17  |  Khalid 10/01/07
  85.   Palestinian Refugees 21:17  |  Honest Observation 10/01/07
  86.   Re: Kalid 21:20  |  King 10/01/07
  87.   Joe from Ramallah has a point 21:21  |  Swiss (Dino) 10/01/07
  88.   Hamas must accept Israel`s RIGHT to exist, not only the fact that 21:23  |  Nadav 10/01/07
  89.   most important statement in the article 21:30  |  vik 10/01/07
  90.   words. islam allows lieing to achieve a conquest goal. actions 21:38  |  ralph 10/01/07
  91.   WHAT A BREAKTHROUGH!!!!!! 21:40  |  Brant 10/01/07
  92.   #55 @ Serge 21:45  |  Adrian de Klerk 10/01/07
  93.   #65 Paulo 21:49  |  Jerry 10/01/07
  94.   Question to Stephen Murray - # 3 21:54  |  B. Clarke 10/01/07
  95.   #65 @ Paulo 22:01  |  Adrian de Klerk 10/01/07
  96.   Getting ready to receive Golan and to prevent PA-civil war 22:05  |  Alicia 10/01/07
  97.   ...to Mr Clickfool...please make a phone call to Khalid 22:06  |  UGY the she camel 10/01/07
  98.   Marwan From Montreal 22:13  |  Ibrahim 10/01/07
  99.   Terror gang leader`s statement 22:13  |  Paddy 10/01/07
  100.   Why hasn?t hamas? 22:17  |  KUTW 10/01/07
  101.   ??? 22:32  |  emad matahin 10/01/07
  102.   Can`t any of you READ??? 22:33  |  Gabi 10/01/07
  103.   Swiss (Dino), dont be fooled 22:38  |  Nephtaly 10/01/07
  104.   to Khalid #71 (also see my post #33) 22:40  |  Dave from Chicago 10/01/07
  105.   #1 Hamas has already denied it, claiming 22:40  |  ChanahS 10/01/07
  106.   Let`s See What He Says in Arabic that Counts 22:45  |  Eli 10/01/07
  107.   to Khalid #71 (continued) 22:54  |  Dave from Chicago 10/01/07
  108.   A Peace Plan ? 22:55  |  Hami 10/01/07
  109.   Khalid the issue of refugees is solved 23:14  |  The Druze 10/01/07
  110.   To Dave from Chicago 23:20  |  Specialist 10/01/07
  111.   So what? 23:22  |  Jonathan S 10/01/07
  112.   Never mind denial,"Haaretz" will write editorial "Recognize Hamas 23:24  |  Absolute Sweden 10/01/07
  113.   Emad Matahin I agree-these leaders could have had peace centuries 23:30  |  PEACE-LOVE 10/01/07
  114.   #84, Khalid 23:32  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 10/01/07
  115.   ..now they deny saying it....silly Arab`s 23:36  |  Dave from Chicago 10/01/07
  116.   To Khalid- who said life is fair? 23:44  |  Sam 10/01/07
  117.   Update: cease-fire only--not good enough 23:46  |  Paul Freedman 10/01/07
  118.   doublespeak 23:48  |  elizabeth temple 10/01/07
  119.   A Fine Meshal he got us into... 23:57  |  Ronnie Wolman 10/01/07
  120.   To Khalid #19 Re Recognition of Reality 00:04  |  Eli 11/01/07
  121.   "TO BE OR NOT TO BE" ? 00:09  |  Terry 11/01/07
  122.   in short, again, lies, decepti, within islamic law, lie cheat, to 00:17  |  ralph 11/01/07
  123.   Meshal Meshoogie 00:18  |  Chaim Gorenstein 11/01/07
  124.   # 103 Nephtaly 00:23  |  Swiss (Dino) 11/01/07
  125.   Another response to Khalid and any anti-Israeli 00:29  |  Saul 11/01/07
  126.   More confusion from the pals 00:32  |  Adrian de Klerk 11/01/07
  127.   "What`s my name?" 00:54  |  Hymie and proud 11/01/07
  128.   B. Clarke # 94 Refugees 01:07  |  Jeff Northridge 11/01/07
  129.   Thanks for clearing that up.Wouldnt want to think Hamas not crazy 01:12  |  RA 11/01/07
  130.   Hamas Learns to be Duplicitous 01:13  |  Bridget Ashmore 11/01/07
  131.   All I Know Is... 01:44  |  Yosemite 11/01/07
  132.   #119: well, he`s a politician 01:45  |  Paul Freedman 11/01/07
  133.   arabist apologists go oops??? 02:04  |  peter 11/01/07
  134.   Can someone please detail these past concessions? 02:06  |  Jon 11/01/07
  135.   Swiss (Dino) # 124 Negotiate Based On That? 02:15  |  Jeff Northridge 11/01/07
  136.   palestine: world`s most horrendous leaders 02:20  |  ruben 11/01/07
  137.   # 3 Stephen Murray 02:38  |  Lynn 11/01/07
  138.   #128 By way of contrast, Yosemite... 02:45  |  Johnboy 11/01/07
  139.   Reality 02:56  |  Lynn 11/01/07
  140.   Khalid 03:02  |  Lynn 11/01/07
  141.   # 81 Jane 03:06  |  Lynn 11/01/07
  142.   Meshal never spoke of recognizing Israel to begin with 03:08  |  Joe 11/01/07
  143.   Ruben You`ll Learn! 03:27  |  Yosemite 11/01/07
  144.   re: Jerry #93 03:47  |  Paulo 11/01/07
  145.   re: Adrian de Klerk #95 03:53  |  Paulo 11/01/07
  146.   Must accept negotiated agreements as basis 03:53  |  Voice of Reason 11/01/07
  147.   BBC interview: Meshaal won`t stop until he has all of Israel. 05:15  |  Nannette 11/01/07
  148.   #88 When are you going to get things straight? 05:20  |  Dutch 11/01/07
  149.   #88 Nadav, addendum 05:32  |  Dutch 11/01/07
  150.   MESHAL IS SOO RIGHT!!!! 05:46  |  Dutch 11/01/07
  151.   #142 Joe, Laying down the law with Israel 05:59  |  Dutch 11/01/07
  152.   Joe still laughing in his corner of the room 06:14  |  peter 11/01/07
  153.   Dutch # 150 re Palestinian State 06:38  |  Eli 11/01/07
  154.   Dutch #188 re a State`s Right to Exist 06:50  |  Eli 11/01/07
  155.   no time to read the Article or the feedback, but i have to say th 07:01  |  Simon Mohammed 11/01/07
  156.   #153 Eli, huh? The state was declared in 1988 07:26  |  Johnboy 11/01/07
  157.   #149 Dear Doris oops Dutch 07:46  |  Adrian de Klerk 11/01/07
  158.   David (Chicago) and Khalid 07:56  |  Mark of Lewiston 11/01/07
  159.   What a bluff: Meshal said... Hamas denied...Who will take it? 08:00  |  Vittorio 11/01/07
  160.   #145 No Paulo 08:02  |  Adrian de Klerk 11/01/07
  161.   Swiss (Dino) 09:11  |  howiej 11/01/07
  162.   Johnboy #156 Huh? 18:54  |  Eli 11/01/07
  163.   #162 Eli Huh? 05:26  |  Johnboy 12/01/07
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