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What's wrong with Israelis
By Bradley Burston

Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. -George Bernard Shaw

What if it's true? What if Israelis deserve no better than Ehud Olmert, Amir Peretz, Avigdor Lieberman, Moshe Katsav, Dan Halutz?

If we are stuck with them, and they have nothing to offer us in the way of governance or personal example, perhaps they can offer us something else. At the very least, maybe they have something to teach us. About ourselves. What's wrong with us.

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Take the question of leadership. We know what we want in a leader, the kind of person we'd be fools not to follow. We want someone wiser than we are on issues of life and death, someone better able to see around corners and beyond horizons. We want someone of sounder judgment, superior imagination, someone whose ability exceeds his ambition, someone who cares about the country more than he cares about his chair. Someone who cares about us.

Now look who we've got.

At this point, the top echelon of government, and much of the top leadership of the military, is a collection of one-man fan clubs. Leaders whose followers long ago knew better than to continue to follow them.

Here's where it gets even more depressing.

What if the reason that we tend to get the leaders we most deserve is that we tend to vote for the leaders we most resemble?

The cabinet, the Knesset, the president, the chief rabbinate - they are their constituents in caricature. Us, in a fun house mirror.

If this is the case, it should be a fairly simple matter to divine what's wrong with Israelis. The male ones, at any rate.

First, we apply the Universal Law of Israeli Male Dynamics, which states, referring to behavior in the Gan, or Israeli pre-school:

They never left the Gan.

They can do whatever they want. They can say whatever comes to mind. There are no painful consequences, no significant punishments. They can decide that the sandbox is theirs, and woe to the kid who was there first.

They believe, and they may be right, that they will not be thrown out of the Gan, no matter what they do.

Anything goes.

Witness what is sometimes called the Rabin Principle, that we can battle terrorism as if there were no peace process, and pursue the peace process as if there were no fight against terror.

It doesn't work. In fact, any kid in Gan could probably figure out that it cannot work. But we are so clever, we tell ourselves, that we can make it work.

We won't let the fact that it never works deter us.

Witness Thursday night. As Prime Minister Ehud Olmert is launching one of the most potentially useful and significant summits, on his way to meeting key mediator Hosni Mubarak, the Israel Defense Forces was raiding Ramallah in an operation - carried live on Al Jazeera - that cost four Palestinian deaths. As well as any chance that the summit could help free kidnapped soldier Gilad Shalit.

"Things developed in a way that could not have been predicted in advance," Olmert said, in an expression of magic thinking fully worthy of a response to an angry pre-school teacher. "If innocent people were hurt, this was not our intention."

Even in the absence of dramatic events, variations of the Gan axiom abound. A random selection, from the pre-school that meets every Sunday in the Cabinet Room:

  • THE SNEAK [Namecard: Ehud O.]

    Teacher Evaluation: Good habits of personal hygiene. Plays well with others, until teacher's back is turned. His demeanor is correct, with an undertone of sleaze. Despite what teacher would hope, the sleaze on the exterior belies greater sleaze on the inside.

    He will stealthily take whatever he can. He will put it where it cannot be easily found. When it is found, he will have an explanation at the ready. There is more where that came from, but no one can figure out where it is.

  • THE BULLY [Namecard: Avigdor L.]

    Teacher Evaluation: Just as Ehud O. fools people into wondering whether he could possibly be as sleazy as he appears, Avigdor L. is often so verbally abusive that one might mistake it for nothing but idle, if intimidating, bluster. But underestimate him at your peril. He might just be the kind of bully that if you call his bluff, goes ahead and does just what he threatened - and woe the block that he decides to knock off.

  • THE LOUDMOUTH [Namecard: Amir P.]

    Teacher Evaluation: Alternately enchanting and obnoxious, Amir P. talks a good game - often at the top of his lungs. But his undeniable people skills, along with his propensity for high-volume self-promotion, can land him in situations for which he is unprepared and unsuited.

    And so it goes. Around the cabinet table sit all the traits to which we have fallen chronic victim:

    The Minister of Arrogance and Insecurity.

    The Minister of Ambition that Exceeds Ability.

    The Deputy Minister for Reckless Glibness.

    The Special Advisor for Inattention to Details.

    The Minister of Disdain for Accountability.

    The Minister of Profligate Tolerance for Corruption.

    Finally, no overview of what's wrong with Israelis would be complete without a word on being provincial to the point of pathology.

    It is one of the wonders of selective innocence. Left wing, right wing, professor or dropout, provincialism knows no barriers. It is everywhere in this tiny ghetto of a Jewish state.

    Once, relatively few Israelis traveled abroad, foreign influences like television were limited, and down-on-the-farm narrowness was eminently understandable. No more. There's something about the provincialism of Israelis that has become a cultural staple, second nature. Effortless.

    There's something oddly charming about it, when it's not causing someone pain.

    You see it in its sub-cultural forms, in the hermetic self-satisfaction and immunity to criticism as exemplified in such groups as settlers, the ultra-Orthodox, the ultra-left.

    You see it on a national level, in the conviction that a world that condemns Israel at every opportunity, and at times unjustly, actually frees it to act any way it damn pleases.

    You might say there's something even childlike about it. A certain lack of perspective, that may, in fact, explain everything else.

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      1.   Another thing wrong with Israelis` 09:27  |  Were`s Waldo 05/01/07
      2.   Bradley, we have this lot too 09:33  |  Marilyn 05/01/07
      3.   Two word answer 09:51  |  Choni Davidowitz 05/01/07
      4.   To Marilyn #2 10:03  |  Ari ben Yisrael 05/01/07
      5.   Bradly, perhaps you should have entitled this.. 10:18  |  Marlene 05/01/07
      6.   Israelis and Jews (part1) 10:20  |  Choni Davidowitz 05/01/07
      7.   No checks and balances in Israels political system ?? 10:25  |  Swiss (Dino) 05/01/07
      8.   Two word answer for #3 10:29  |  Joe Moer 05/01/07
      9.   Missed one 10:34  |  Natallie Durson 05/01/07
      10.   Easy answer 11:08  |  Hannah 05/01/07
      11.   I KNOW: RELIGION! 11:13  |  MAN 05/01/07
      12.   yes marilyn but who would employ you? 11:32  |  yirmi 05/01/07
      13.   #7 LOOK AROUND DINO NO CHECKS AND BALANCES IN 11:36  |  paul harris 05/01/07
      14.   #2 AND AN EFFECTIVE COUNTER TO THE 11:41  |  paul harris 05/01/07
      15.   Marilyn @2 12:29  |  Guess who 05/01/07
      16.   Ari I have never said an evil word 12:40  |  Marilyn 05/01/07
      17.   israel? a barbaric little ME country 12:51  |  cristina 05/01/07
      18.   # 11 paul harris 13:03  |  Swiss (Dino) 05/01/07
      19.   What`s wrong? 13:13  |  Gee 05/01/07
      20.   Provincialism to the point of pathology 13:34  |  Dror 05/01/07
      21.   To # 2 Marlene : big smile 13:44  |  Yanke-love-it 05/01/07
      22.   Israelis are stubborn 14:12  |  Dror 05/01/07
      23.   be provincial! (at least a bit!) 14:15  |  christoph 05/01/07
      24.   The problem in my country as well as Israel 14:18  |  Chris Linthwaite 05/01/07
      25.   PS: reservations 14:35  |  christoph 05/01/07
      26.   To Gee/19 14:57  |  Anne 05/01/07
      27.   Israelis forced to play a rigged game 15:12  |  Raymond from DC 05/01/07
      28.   my bad english 15:13  |  christoph 05/01/07
      29.   To Joe moer (alias ari ben yisrael) #8 15:14  |  Choni Davidowitz 05/01/07
      30.   Ten-Year Olds Do Rule The World. 15:17  |  Tony Anthony 05/01/07
      31.   #9 Natallie: Arab penchant for Jewish blood 15:21  |  Yacov 05/01/07
      32.   Thank you Mr.Burston for being better than all of us 15:32  |  Shalom Freedman 05/01/07
      33.   Jews and Israelis (part 2) 15:35  |  Choni Davidowitz 05/01/07
      34.   Ur aren`t the only ones Mr. Bradley 15:45  |  Lebanese in Canada 05/01/07
      35.   Even as late as the mid-1970s 15:50  |  Mark Lincoln 05/01/07
      36.   Israel Democracy???? 15:55  |  JK 05/01/07
      37.   A Nation of Brats 16:03  |  Yaakov Sullivan 05/01/07
      38.   Ronnie Wolman 16:04  |  Gabe1 05/01/07
      39.   To Christina and Dino 16:22  |  Go Rimbaud 05/01/07
      40.   What`s wrong... 16:47  |  Michael N 05/01/07
      41.   Tired of your Self-Deprecation Sessions 16:50  |  Tzfonit 05/01/07
      42.   Israeli Politics 16:51  |  Sam 05/01/07
      43.   Easy answer, nothing...... 16:56  |  Dave from Chicago 05/01/07
      44.   Joe Moer aka Ari ben Israel 17:03  |  Gabe1 05/01/07
      45.   Democracy 17:04  |  Ben Plonie 05/01/07
      46.   BRACHA/Tzfonit #41 17:20  |  Gabe1 05/01/07
      47.   True Leaders 17:34  |  Brian Freund 05/01/07
      48.   Anne #26 17:56  |  Gee 05/01/07
      49.   People get the leaders they deserve 17:59  |  SD 05/01/07
      50.   You call that provincial , wait to see what 10 more Israel tribes 18:01  |  Joseph E . 05/01/07
      51.   ...to Where`s Waldo #1 You are wrong !!! 18:04  |  abraham...mico 05/01/07
      52.   It`s the system, not the people 18:45  |  Muriel 05/01/07
      53.   What`s REALLY Wrong 18:51  |  Reality Check 05/01/07
      54.   Absolutely nothing wrong...It is called FREEDOM 19:00  |  albert amato 05/01/07
      55.   to 29 Choni 19:06  |  Ari ben Yisrael 05/01/07
      56.   Gabe: Brachas Quest 19:07  |  Ronnie Wolman 05/01/07
      57.   For #43 19:14  |  Ari ben Yisrael 05/01/07
      58.   To Dror 22 19:57  |  Ludmila 05/01/07
      59.   Decline of the generations 20:15  |  Tosefta 05/01/07
      60.   To No. 21 - with a big smile 20:27  |  Marlene 05/01/07
      61.   To Yaacov Sullivan 20:59  |  Moises 05/01/07
      62.   Ronnie Wolman Brachas Quest 21:14  |  Gabe1 05/01/07
      63.   Fantastic! 21:20  |  The North Wind 05/01/07
      64.   WELL, IT`S HONOURABLE THAT THEY CHOSE PUBLIC SERVICE 22:32  |  Smadar 05/01/07
      65.   Wrong No. 61 - falsely accusing Yaacov Sullivan 22:50  |  Marlene 05/01/07
      66.   Natallie 23:00  |  Jasmine Murphy 05/01/07
      67.   Ronnie Wolman 23:06  |  Ursula 05/01/07
      68.   Censors 23:11  |  Ursula 05/01/07
      69.   Teacher`s Evaluation of The Wishful Thinker 23:17  |  Tim 05/01/07
      70.   And Another Thing Mr Burston 23:26  |  Tim 05/01/07
      71.   Ursula 23:34  |  Ronnie Wolman 05/01/07
      72.   Marlene #65 What Israel Does... 23:46  |  Tim 05/01/07
      73.   Ason gadol kara po. 23:47  |  Ari Nir 05/01/07
      74.   You GO GABE 23:49  |  albert amato 05/01/07
      75.   Ronnie Wolman 23:51  |  Ursula 05/01/07
      76.   Ursula: Tottenham Hotspur?Now youve REALLY touched my heart! 00:21  |  Ronnie Wolman 06/01/07
      77.   Albert Almato: So who are you backing this week???? 00:22  |  Ronnie Wolman 06/01/07
      78.   albert amato 00:38  |  Ursula 06/01/07
      79.   What`s wrong ? 00:51  |  Always Israeli 06/01/07
      80.   # 39 Go Rimbaud Engaged, but with what effect ?? 00:52  |  Swiss (Dino) 06/01/07
      81.   "People Deserve The Leaders That They Have" 00:57  |  Tim 06/01/07
      82.   #52 It`s the system, YES 01:05  |  Fredje 06/01/07
      83.   Becuse the world is against us. 01:13  |  Standish 06/01/07
      84.   Marilyn`s Question to Ari 01:31  |  Tim 06/01/07
      85.   Swiss (Dino) #80: Setting Directions 01:49  |  Tim 06/01/07
      86.   Standish # 83 Actually no 02:28  |  ChanahS 06/01/07
      87.   to MAN #11 - on Choni 02:58  |  zeev 06/01/07
      88.   Ari #4 03:20  |  JJ 06/01/07
      89.   Natalie Durson- 03:23  |  Avrum 06/01/07
      90.   Tim #84 03:55  |  JJ 06/01/07
      91.   #83 Standish: "The world Is Against Us" 04:38  |  Tim 06/01/07
      92.   URSULA, URSULA!!!!!!!!! 04:53  |  GABE1 06/01/07
      93.   Albert Amato 04:55  |  Gabe1 06/01/07
      94.   jj #90 "Proper Target" 05:07  |  Tim 06/01/07
      95.   Burston 05:33  |  Charles Duran 06/01/07
      96.   To Ari #4 An Excellent Post! 05:53  |  Tim 06/01/07
      97.   ISRAELIS` - BEAUTIFUL. 07:05  |  Helen Cumming 06/01/07
      98.   To No. 72 08:58  |  Marlene 06/01/07
      99.   Good analysis No.83 09:15  |  Marlene 06/01/07
      100.   Israelis beautiful, honest and innocent 97? 09:28  |  Marlene 06/01/07
      101.   Change comes by self examination and determined positive action. 10:23  |  Simon 06/01/07
      102.   # 85 Tim 10:45  |  Swiss (Dino) 06/01/07
      103.   #4 you want "peace"?? 10:58  |  Fulusteen 06/01/07
      104.   THEY READ HAARETZ AND MAARIV TWO STRIKES 11:14  |  paul harris 06/01/07
      105.   # 98 Marlene 12:04  |  ChanahS 06/01/07
      106.   # 103 Fulusteen 12:09  |  ChanahS 06/01/07
      107.   ...to Tosefta...are you Israeli ? 13:12  |  abraham...mico 06/01/07
      108.   Bradley a time waster here 13:25  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 06/01/07
      109.   To Ursula @67 13:28  |  Mark B. 06/01/07
      110.   israeli leaders are infected with the Americowboyanos Virus 13:52  |  isratinian 06/01/07
      111.   to Dino in SWZ 14:02  |  BO 06/01/07
      112.   Fulusteen 103 14:14  |  ISRAELI 06/01/07
      113.   Marlene #92 14:27  |  Tim 06/01/07
      114.   To No. 105 - Thank you for proving my point 14:29  |  Marlene 06/01/07
      115.   Dino #102 14:34  |  Tim 06/01/07
      116.   Dino, the Swiss abstain 14:53  |  FOX 06/01/07
      117.   More Optimism 14:59  |  FOX 06/01/07
      118.   # 112- ISRAELI ...Latest Audit re- Arafat... 15:00  |  Klaudia 06/01/07
      119.   #110 Isratinian 15:08  |  Tim 06/01/07
      120.   Marlen`s soup 15:09  |  FOX 06/01/07
      121.   To Tim No. 113 15:17  |  Marlene 06/01/07
      122.   #114 OH DEAR MARLENE HOW TERRIBLE 15:28  |  paul harris 06/01/07
      123.   # 114 Marlene 15:46  |  ChanahS 06/01/07
      124.   # 114 Marlene 17:40  |  ChanahS 06/01/07
      125.   paul harris and others who hate merilyn 17:51  |  lucas 06/01/07
      126.   Abraham Mico #107; Are you Israeli? 18:10  |  Tosefta 06/01/07
      127.   Mr. Burston - Your analysis would be correct if Israel 18:18  |  Zev 06/01/07
      128.   to Tosefta#120...only a camel can understand another camel... 18:56  |  abraham...mico 06/01/07
      129.   to Tosefta#120...only a camel recognice another camel... 19:02  |  abraham...mico 06/01/07
      130.   Israel is the best 19:19  |  Yossi 06/01/07
      131.   Marilyn,Don`t you even see the people next door as people and not 20:02  |  Vlad 06/01/07
      132.   A good place to start 20:05  |  Richie 06/01/07
      133.   Hamas, don`t wipe Israel from the map please 20:15  |  Vlad 06/01/07
      134.   ISRAEL IS THE REAL DEMOCRACY 20:20  |  VLAD 06/01/07
      135.   Question to Yaakov Sullivan 20:34  |  VLAD 06/01/07
      136.   Chanah are Marlene 20:36  |  Former Syrian Jew 06/01/07
      137.   To Christina and Dino 20:40  |  VLAD 06/01/07
      138.   #121 Tosefta, Here`s a true story of Israelis on a bus 20:57  |  Smadar 06/01/07
      139.   Don`t let the Fat Cats play you for suckers. 21:26  |  Joel A. Levitt 06/01/07
      140.   Bradley, Israelis should be more outspoken 22:40  |  Dutch 06/01/07
      141.   #135 Yaakov Sullivan is a sober and judicious 23:08  |  Alex 06/01/07
      142.   #130 Yossi, Re: Israel is great 00:28  |  Dutch 07/01/07
      143.   Refreshingly honest 00:52  |  Joe 07/01/07
      144.   Reply to #2 Marilyn 01:06  |  Sherlock Holmes 07/01/07
      145.   # 111 BO 01:08  |  Swiss (Dino) 07/01/07
      146.   #116/117 FOX 01:19  |  Swiss (Dino) 07/01/07
      147.   Top politicians 01:20  |  Joe 07/01/07
      148.   # 137 VLAD 01:25  |  Swiss (Dino) 07/01/07
      149.   what`s wrong is basic 01:41  |  michel 07/01/07
      150.   vlad #135 02:21  |  wibism 07/01/07
      151.   Thanks for the story (Smadar #138) 02:49  |  Tosefta 07/01/07
      152.   "Israelis should be more outspoken" - Dutch 02:58  |  Mark Lincoln 07/01/07
      153.   #147 Tosefta, response to bus story 06:08  |  Smadar 07/01/07
      154.   Michel in France # 149 08:41  |  ChanahS 07/01/07
      155.   #137 VLAD - Go to Israel if your a native from there. 09:06  |  keith 07/01/07
      156.   I am sick of all this bashing! 09:38  |  sg 07/01/07
      157.   Keith, cartoon analysis 11:10  |  FOX 07/01/07
      158.   reply to Keith, #155 11:13  |  Roddy Frankel 07/01/07
      159.   Burston`s lack of perspective 11:43  |  Roddy Frankel 07/01/07
      160.   #159 RODDY FRANKEL 12:51  |  VIPER 07/01/07
      161.   Two word answer 14:17  |  Charly 07/01/07
      162.   Roddy Frankel #158: Stop writing nonsense. (2nd Submission) 16:33  |  Joel A. Levitt 07/01/07
      163.   To Viper and His Other Non Representative Buddies 18:57  |  Tim 07/01/07
      164.   Roddy Frankel #158: Stop writing nonsense. (3rd Submission) 19:34  |  Joel A. Levitt 07/01/07
      165.   #148 Swiss: Was It The Chicken or the Egg? 19:38  |  Tim 07/01/07
      166.   Reply to "VIPER", #160 19:39  |  Roddy Frankel 07/01/07
      167.   ChanahS #154 20:09  |  michel 07/01/07
      168.   Charly: Please Reconsider! We Need You Badly.... 20:16  |  Tim 07/01/07
      169.   #164 Joel A. Levitt: Im am Not A Militant But I Still Don`t Agree 21:31  |  Tim 07/01/07
      170.   Michel #167 21:39  |  Tim 07/01/07
      171.   reply to Joel A. Levitt, #162/164 (go blue!) 21:46  |  Roddy Frankel 07/01/07
      172.   Tim #164: We don`t disagree. 21:50  |  Joel A. Levitt 07/01/07
      173.   bradley burston-what was wrong 23:12  |  yahn goodey&virginia 07/01/07
      174.   Roddy #171: You are right. 23:35  |  Joel A. Levitt 07/01/07
      175.   to tim #170 08:09  |  michel 08/01/07
      176.   michel #175 09:44  |  Tim 08/01/07
      177.   Indrajaya, American to the rescue 09:47  |  FOX 08/01/07
      178.   #121 Marlene 10:57  |  Tim 08/01/07
      179.   Joel in addition to 11:45  |  FOX 08/01/07
      180.   Joel for some reason 13:00  |  FOX 08/01/07
      181.   to Roddy Frankel #171 15:22  |  zeev 08/01/07
      182.   to tim #176 21:59  |  michel 08/01/07
      183.   #181 Zeev 22:24  |  Tim 08/01/07
      184.   Israelis 22:30  |  Zoe 08/01/07
      185.   Michel #182 23:42  |  Tim 08/01/07
      186.   a true israeli politician 00:03  |  Jel 09/01/07
      187.   # 7 Nathalie Durson 00:20  |  Jel 09/01/07
      188.   # 39 Full rights pour the Arab israelis 00:31  |  Jel 09/01/07
      189.   It`s OK to Want Better Leaders But.... 01:06  |  Tim 09/01/07
      190.   Israel, a barbaric? 01:10  |  Romeo 09/01/07
      191.   Michel #182: Here is how I understand Tim`s point. 01:21  |  Joel A. Levitt 09/01/07
      192.   Joel A Levitt #191 04:10  |  Tim 09/01/07
      193.   to Tim #183 06:08  |  zeev 09/01/07
      194.   #193 Zeev 08:25  |  Tim 09/01/07
      195.   and to #193 zeev & #194 tim 09:44  |  VIPER 09/01/07
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      197.   Zev #196 "The real Palestinian agenda" 11:18  |  Tim 09/01/07
      198.   Zev #196: All Palestinian leaders? 11:57  |  Joel A. Levitt 09/01/07
      199.   Don`t let the Fat Cats play you for suckers. 12:27  |  Joel A. Levitt 09/01/07
      200.   #195 VIPER 12:32  |  Tim 09/01/07
      201.   Joel A Levitt #198 - All Palestinian Leaders? 12:39  |  Tim 09/01/07
      202.   #200, NO TIM, YOUR NOT 13:27  |  VIPER 09/01/07
      203.   #199, JOEL A. LEVITT 13:32  |  VIPER 09/01/07
      204.   Tim #201: Here is some data. 13:35  |  Joel A. Levitt 09/01/07
      205.   VIPER #202 Why They Did It? 13:55  |  Tim 09/01/07
      206.   198 Joel - Yes all of the Palestinian leaders 14:01  |  Zev 09/01/07
      207.   #204 Joel A. Levitt About Abu Mazen 19:36  |  Tim 09/01/07
      208.   Tim #207: You are correct. 00:23  |  Joel A. Levitt 10/01/07
      209.   Correction to #208 01:26  |  Joel A. Levitt 10/01/07
      210.   #209 Joel A. Levitt: Negotiations 04:11  |  Tim 10/01/07
      211.   zeev #181 05:04  |  Roddy Frankel 10/01/07
      212.   to Tim #194 - part 1 12:15  |  zeev 10/01/07
      213.   to Tim #194 - part 2 12:42  |  zeev 10/01/07
      214.   to Roddy Frankel #211 13:14  |  zeev 10/01/07
      215.   Tim #210: Negotiations, is there another choice? 19:44  |  Joel A. Levitt 10/01/07
      216.   To Roddy Frankel, Tim, VIPER and Zeev: Objectives? 20:18  |  Joel A. Levitt 10/01/07
      217.   Zeev #212 and #213 You Are Not Paying Attention 00:10  |  Tim 11/01/07
      218.   to Joel A. Levitt #216 01:28  |  zeev 11/01/07
      219.   Joel A. Levitt #216 10:39  |  Tim 11/01/07
      220.   #215 Joel A. Levitt 12:41  |  Tim 11/01/07
      221.   #216, JOEL A LEVITT 13:36  |  VIPER 11/01/07
      222.   My Objectives 06:15  |  Roddy Frankel 12/01/07
      223.   #221 VIPER Your Ideas 06:54  |  Tim 12/01/07
      224.   #222 Roddy Frankel "Xenophobia" (Part 1) 07:10  |  Tim 12/01/07
      225.   Roddy Frankel #222 "Xenophobia" (Part 2) 07:19  |  Tim 12/01/07
      226.   to R. Frankel #222 - one question more 15:04  |  zeev 12/01/07
      227.   to Roddy Frankel #222 - 2nd try 17:07  |  zeev 12/01/07
      228.   To Roddy Frankel, Tim, VIPER and Zeev, 2nd Submission 17:26  |  Joel A. Levitt 12/01/07
      229.   to Tim #217 21:17  |  zeev 12/01/07
      230.   Zeev #229 22:14  |  Tim 12/01/07
      231.   Zeev #229 (Part 2) 22:32  |  Tim 12/01/07
      232.   Zeev #229 (Part 3) 22:49  |  Tim 12/01/07
      233.   Zeev #229 (Part 4) 23:02  |  Tim 12/01/07
      234.   Zeev #229 (Part 5) 23:15  |  Tim 12/01/07
      235.   Zeev #226 23:26  |  Tim 12/01/07
      236.   to Tim #230 11:26  |  zeev 13/01/07
      237.   to Tim #235 11:30  |  zeev 13/01/07
      238.   to Tim #233 13:38  |  zeev 13/01/07
      239.   Zeev #238 21:53  |  Tim 13/01/07
      240.   Zeev #236 (Part 1) 06:45  |  Tim 14/01/07
      241.   Zeev #236 (Part 2) 06:55  |  Tim 14/01/07
      242.   Zeev #237 07:02  |  Tim 14/01/07
      243.   to Tim #239 17:53  |  zeev 14/01/07
      244.   Zeev #243 00:34  |  Tim 15/01/07
      245.   to Tim #240 - 2nd try 09:33  |  zeev 15/01/07
      246.   to Tim #240 - & something else 11:02  |  zeev 15/01/07
      247.   to Tim #241 18:54  |  zeev 15/01/07
      248.   to Tim #244 18:57  |  zeev 15/01/07
      249.   Zeev #245 (Part 1) 00:45  |  Tim 16/01/07
      250.   Zeev #245 (Part 2) 01:36  |  Tim 16/01/07
      251.   Zeev #245 (Part 3) 01:46  |  Tim 16/01/07
      252.   Zeev #245 (Part 4) 01:52  |  Tim 16/01/07
      253.   Zeev #246 (Part 1) 04:33  |  Tim 16/01/07
      254.   Zeev #246 (Part 2) 05:02  |  Tim 16/01/07
      255.   Zeev #246 (Part 3) 05:15  |  Tim 16/01/07
      256.   Zeev #246 (Part 4) 05:27  |  Tim 16/01/07
      257.   to Tim # 249/250 05:28  |  zeev 16/01/07
      258.   Zeev #247 (Part1) 06:25  |  Tim 16/01/07
      259.   Zeev #247 (Part 2) 06:39  |  Tim 16/01/07
      260.   Zeev #247 (Part 3) 06:49  |  Tim 16/01/07
      261.   Zeev #247 (Part 4) 07:03  |  Tim 16/01/07
      262.   Zeev #248 07:17  |  Tim 16/01/07
      263.   Zeev #257 (part 1) 07:28  |  Tim 16/01/07
      264.   Zeev #257 (Part 2) 08:01  |  Tim 16/01/07
      265.   Zeev #257 (Part 3) 10:54  |  Tim 16/01/07
      266.   Tim and Zeev: Please, less heat and more light. 11:04  |  Joel A. Levitt 16/01/07
      267.   Zeev #257 (Part 4) 11:07  |  Tim 16/01/07
      268.   Joel A. Levitt #266 11:52  |  Tim 16/01/07
      269.   to Tim #267 - part 1 19:34  |  zeev 16/01/07
      270.   to Tim #267 - part 2 19:35  |  zeev 16/01/07
      271.   to Tim #267 - part 3 19:37  |  zeev 16/01/07
      272.   Zeev #269 #270 #271 (Part 1 of 2) 21:39  |  Tim 16/01/07
      273.   Zeev #269 #270 #271 (Part 2 of 2) 21:55  |  Tim 16/01/07
      274.   to Joel A. Levitt #266 04:38  |  zeev 17/01/07
      275.   to Tim #272 13:50  |  zeev 17/01/07
      276.   Zeev #237 Resolution 194 21:50  |  Tim 17/01/07
      277.   Zeev #275 (Part 1) 00:27  |  Tim 18/01/07
      278.   Zeev #275 (Part 2) 00:37  |  Tim 18/01/07
      279.   Zeev #275 (Part 3) 00:50  |  Tim 18/01/07
      280.   Zeev #275 (Part 4) 04:17  |  Tim 18/01/07
      281.   to Tim #276 on Res 194 - part 1 04:22  |  zeev 18/01/07
      282.   to Tim #276 on Res 194 - part 2 of 2 04:27  |  zeev 18/01/07
      283.   Zeev #281 Resolution 194 07:53  |  Tim 18/01/07
      284.   Zeev #282 08:10  |  Tim 18/01/07
      285.   Zeev #281 Just So You Don`t Say That I Don`t Address Your Points 23:46  |  Tim 18/01/07
      286.   to Tim #283 - Res. 194 - 2nd try 19:16  |  zeev 19/01/07
      287.   Zeev #286 UNGA Resolution 194 23:25  |  Tim 19/01/07
      288.   to Tim #287 - part 1 03:43  |  zeev 21/01/07
      289.   to Tim #287 - part 2/2 03:47  |  zeev 21/01/07
      290.   Zeev #288 (Part 1) 05:10  |  Tim 21/01/07
      291.   Zeev #288 (Part 2 of 2) 05:23  |  Tim 21/01/07
      292.   Zeev #289 05:34  |  Tim 21/01/07
      293.   for TIM 11:29  |  VIPER 21/01/07
      294.   VIPER #293 12:44  |  Tim 21/01/07
      295.   to Tim #294 - part 1 - Time is against us 15:00  |  zeev 22/01/07
      296.   to Tim #294 - Part 2 - what risks? 15:02  |  zeev 22/01/07
      297.   Zeev #295 (Part 1 of 2) 00:12  |  Tim 23/01/07
      298.   Zeev #295 (Part 2 of 2) 00:29  |  Tim 23/01/07
      299.   Zeev #296 00:51  |  Tim 23/01/07
      300.   to Tim #298 - part 1 18:38  |  zeev 24/01/07
      301.   to Tim #298 - part 2 18:40  |  zeev 24/01/07
      302.   to Tim #299 18:41  |  zeev 24/01/07
      303.   Zeev #300 (Part 1) 22:12  |  Tim 24/01/07
      304.   Zeev #300 #301 (Part 2 of 3) 22:25  |  Tim 24/01/07
      305.   Zeev #301 Part 3 of 3) 00:03  |  Tim 25/01/07
      306.   Zeev #303 (Part 1 of 2) 00:22  |  Tim 25/01/07
      307.   Zeev #303 (Part 2 of 2) 00:35  |  Tim 25/01/07
      308.   Zeev #302 (Part 2 of 2) Second try 01:56  |  Tim 25/01/07
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