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Jews over the line
By Nadav Shragai

Even more than she is sinning against historic truth in her desire to restore the Green Line to school maps, Education Minister Yuli Tamir is sinning by separating and distancing the community that lives "over the line" from the Israeli collective. Tamir is not only a former leader of Peace Now, one of those who charted the movement's course; she is also a graduate of countless dialogues, "covenants of brothers" and similar activities, whose purpose was to preserve the weakening Jewish Israeli fabric. But by reinstating the Green Line on maps, Tamir is instituting a kind of ideological persecution against the more than a quarter of a million Jewish citizens who live in Judea and Samaria.

As if the difficult feelings of expulsion that, ever since the destruction of Gush Katif, have accompanied most Jewish residents of Judea and Samaria - both as a disaster that actually happened and as a threat that continues to hover over them - were not enough; as if the route of the separation wall and fence - which, it is clear to all, does not merely mark a security border - were not enough; as if the expressions of hatred by the leftist "cultural" elite were not enough; now, the education minister comes along and wants to put a seal on this feeling of separation.

Tamir apparently fails to understand that this seal is also liable to push additional precious portions of this public outside the camp, making them despair of the State of Israel and feel that they must close themselves off in their own ghettos. These people, instead of integrating into society and influencing its way forward, are constructing paths of isolation and alienation for themselves.

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Elyakim Ha'etzni, who is not among the despairers, recently published a pamphlet called "The Shock of the Retreat in the Land of Israel," in which he describes the "terrible vision of the separation of the State of Israel from the Land of Israel." Ha'etzni warns that this will result in Jewish residents of the country identifying solely with the land, and not with the state, which has turned its back on the land and on them.

Granted, Ha'etzni is writing about the future when he describes a "new existence that we have never yet tried - Jews living in the land of Israel but outside the State of Israel," and he is referring to this as a possibility in geographic terms. But the existence we are experiencing now is even more dangerous: Jews who live in the land of Israel, but feel as if they were outside the State of Israel; Jews who feel like exiles in their own land and are alienated from their state and its institutions. And this is all happening even before the projected withdrawal, may it not happen.

These are people who view the Israel Police and the courts as biased agencies lacking all integrity. And unfortunately, in recent years, these agencies have given grounds for one to see them in that way. They include some who are distancing themselves from the symbols that tied them to the state - the flag, or certain prayers - and are liable to distance themselves still further in the future. From the standpoint of this public, Tamir's step merely legitimizes the separatist path.

In last Friday's Makor Rishon newspaper, Bentzi Lieberman, the outgoing chairman of the Yesha Council of settlements, defined the summer 2005 demonstration in Kfar Maimon as "the Archimedes point in the history of settlement in Yesha" (a Hebrew acronym for Judea, Samaria and Gaza). Lieberman explained why he and his colleagues, including rabbis affiliated with Rabbi Avraham Shapira, refrained from ordering the tens of thousands of demonstrators to break through the fences. "At Kfar Maimon, the Yesha Council stated clearly and publicly that without the Israeli people and Israeli society, the settlement [movement] has no validity. Yesha residents and their supporters must not become confused. They are first and foremost emissaries of the nation," Lieberman said.

Tamir is not only mistaken and misleading, both historically and factually; she is also weakening the approach that seeks not to break the rope. Tamir and her colleagues lack the wisdom and generosity of victors. They are capable of understanding the "Palestinian dream," even those aspects of it that endanger us, and of feeling empathy for it. They can even accept maps that show Palestine covering the entire length and breadth of the western land of Israel, from the Mediterranean Sea to the Jordan River - because in any case, they claim, this is a dream that will never come true, so why not let them dream? But they are not capable of relating similarly, not to mention preferentially, to the Jewish dream of those who have already been uprooted from their houses, or, heaven forbid, are slated to be so uprooted.

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  1.   Of course there must be green line on the maps 10:07  |  Shlomo from Tel-Aviv 12/12/06
  2.   Sadly if ceasfires last only minutes with the Pals. 10:11  |  PETER SM 12/12/06
  3.   Masada And Branch Davidians 10:15  |  Yosemite Sam 12/12/06
  4.   Planned Ignorance? 10:22  |  Natallie Durson 12/12/06
  5.   Breathtaking Hypocrisy 10:30  |  Rowan Berkeley 12/12/06
  6.   The immoral action of isolating the Jews of Judea and Samaria 10:41  |  Shalom Freedman 12/12/06
  7.   They were not invited by the Palestinians 10:51  |  Marilyn 12/12/06
  8.   Hearken to Hillel 10:53  |  D.R. Zukerman 12/12/06
  9.   Since We Won`t Go Back To 1967 ...... 11:06  |  Terry 12/12/06
  10.   I live over the Green Line..it can NOT be ignored 11:07  |  Meir Gush Etzion 12/12/06
  11.   zionist 11:17  |  sam 12/12/06
  12.   i,a jew,understand only the palestinian dream 11:17  |  per weizmann 12/12/06
  13.   Correction 11:19  |  Sami 12/12/06
  14.   REALITY Is Meant To Curb Errant/UNREALISTIC DREAMS! 11:32  |  Proud Pal Defender 12/12/06
  15.   `Planned ignorance` 11:41  |  JJ 12/12/06
  16.   to Shlomo from Tel-Aviv #1 11:49  |  zeev 12/12/06
  17.   sweet of you,zukerman 12:14  |  to quote hillel 12/12/06
  18.   on Shalom Freedman #6 - look who is talking ... 12:26  |  zeev 12/12/06
  19.   These people never believed in the state anyway 12:28  |  Itamar 12/12/06
  20.   What is all the fuss about? 12:31  |  Jonathan S 12/12/06
  21.   7, dear Marylin 12:46  |  John and the truth 12/12/06
  22.   the land of israel?do tell 12:54  |  confused 12/12/06
  23.   talmudic Jews think the green line lies in Beirut 13:01  |  Khalid 12/12/06
  24.   Both Shragai and Tamir are misleading 13:08  |  AA 12/12/06
  25.   so naive 13:15  |  Michael 12/12/06
  26.   Separating and distancing? 13:22  |  Bruno 12/12/06
  27.   Natallie 13:29  |  Truth Detector 12/12/06
  28.   Old news 13:35  |  Tor 12/12/06
  29.   # 7 Marilyn, were YOU invited by the Aborigines ? 13:35  |  Paul Henzen 12/12/06
  30.   truthrejector 13:46  |  distunguished 12/12/06
  31.   truthrejector 13:56  |  Truth Detector 12/12/06
  32.   Two state solution 14:01  |  Choni Davidowitz 12/12/06
  33.   The Green Line 14:02  |  Michael Katz 12/12/06
  34.   Tamir`s an idiot. She would have no voice outside Israel! 14:10  |  Nannette 12/12/06
  35.   settlers 14:20  |  jj burke 12/12/06
  36.   Ask Liberman to talk to his Russian brothers 14:30  |  Yossi Mahran 12/12/06
  37.   Apologetics At Its Worst 14:30  |  Yaakov Sullivan 12/12/06
  38.   Shragai is a nut 14:35  |  Tom Spender 12/12/06
  39.   KHALID Quranic killers aim to make the world Dar al Islam 14:40  |  PETER SM 12/12/06
  40.   Sweet taboo or one question is still unanswered.... 14:45  |  Swiss (Dino) 12/12/06
  41.   RE: Truth Detector 14:57  |  Natallie Durson 12/12/06
  42.   Zeev vs. Shlomo re: Green Line 14:57  |  Yair 12/12/06
  43.   Sam - TA part of their Palestine 15:05  |  Jabadini 12/12/06
  44.   John and the truth??? 15:06  |  Sarah 12/12/06
  45.   Yossi (Yousef) Mahran #36 15:06  |  Gabe1 12/12/06
  46.   Zeev - you quote left wingers blind of reality such as you 15:09  |  Jabadini 12/12/06
  47.   YOSSI MEHRAD and Brainstorming 15:09  |  Gabe1 12/12/06
  48.   Things not being taught in Israeli text books 15:13  |  Jabadini 12/12/06
  49.   Tamir is a political corpse. Labor will vanish in next elections 15:14  |  Reality Guy 12/12/06
  50.   Hebron is a Jewish City/ 1/2 Jerusalem owned by Ramalah 15:19  |  Jabadini 12/12/06
  51.   My point precisely John 15:24  |  Marilyn 12/12/06
  52.   #39 PETER SM `Quranic Jehad` 15:41  |  tbora 12/12/06
  53.   to Paul Henzen #29 15:55  |  zeev 12/12/06
  54.   maps without lines 15:56  |  Warren Burstein 12/12/06
  55.   Natalie and Unplanned Ignorance 15:56  |  Gabe1 12/12/06
  56.   Needed: A quick Siamese separation operation 15:58  |  Tosefta 12/12/06
  57.   21: John and hypocrisy do go hand in hand 16:00  |  David Teich 12/12/06
  58.   Meir Gush Etzion 16:10  |  Gabe1 12/12/06
  59.   Swiss(Dino) 16:15  |  ODP 12/12/06
  60.   The Hebrewians still living the old dream 16:33  |  Tamir Gaza 12/12/06
  61.   Not Jewish citizen, Israeli citizens 16:47  |  John 12/12/06
  62.   The Abominable Slowman 16:51  |  Me 12/12/06
  63.   Tosefta aka Ben Gurion 16:53  |  Gabe1 12/12/06
  64.   Sami 16:57  |  NAJI 12/12/06
  65.   EVA (Iva) 17:03  |  Gabe1 12/12/06
  66.   Recent History of troubles in Palestinr 17:11  |  Abraham 12/12/06
  67.   on Nannette #34 - 2nd try 17:18  |  zeev 12/12/06
  68.   Sadly Yuli Tamir is following on the steps of Shulamith Aloni 17:22  |  David 12/12/06
  69.   Why does Israel have more obligations toward the Palestinians? 17:25  |  Moises 12/12/06
  70.   Tamir Gaza - take your own example. 17:26  |  Moises 12/12/06
  71.   #48 Jabadini 17:28  |  Boycott 12/12/06
  72.   Marilyn - "Don`t know what I`m supposed to do now" 17:43  |  Moises 12/12/06
  73.   # 58 ODP 17:57  |  Swiss (Dino) 12/12/06
  74.   Burying their heads in the sand 18:08  |  Reuven 12/12/06
  75.   # 52 Ze`ev - Baltic states and Tibet... 18:10  |  Paul Henzen 12/12/06
  76.   Boycoot - Only Pakistan recognised anexation 18:49  |  Jabadini 12/12/06
  77.   Between the real and the imagined (Gabe1 aka Hanem5 #63) 19:17  |  Tosefta 12/12/06
  78.   EVICT ALL SQUATTERS... 19:20  |  MIKE KATZ 12/12/06
  79.   #32 Choni 19:24  |  Leib 12/12/06
  80.   Crazier than I thought 19:24  |  RW 12/12/06
  81.   Green Line exists, does it not ? 19:30  |  David 12/12/06
  82.   #51 mad marilyn 19:31  |  Leib 12/12/06
  83.   Reuven # 74 Buried Heads 19:48  |  Jeff Northridge 12/12/06
  84.   # 51 Marilyn - We agree on something ! 19:49  |  Paul Henzen 12/12/06
  85.   Khalid doesn`t know... 19:55  |  sh 12/12/06
  86.   Tosefta aka Ben Gurion #77 19:56  |  Gabe1 12/12/06
  87.   Gabe1 20:06  |  sh 12/12/06
  88.   To Peter SM 20:28  |  Otto Rand 12/12/06
  89.   SH 20:40  |  Gabe1 12/12/06
  90.   Jabadini # 76 The British Mandate 20:41  |  Jeff Northridge 12/12/06
  91.   The fallacy of Nadav Shragai 20:42  |  Otto Rand 12/12/06
  92.   Mr. Rand`s response to Peter SM #88 20:51  |  Yaakov Sullivan 12/12/06
  93.   To Gabe I #86 20:55  |  Otto Rand 12/12/06
  94.   Swiss(Dino) 21:07  |  ODP 12/12/06
  95.   Tosefta 21:09  |  ODP 12/12/06
  96.   To 78. Mike Katz. Peace & squatters 21:12  |  Altalena 12/12/06
  97.   David # 81 It Did Exist 21:16  |  Jeff Northridge 12/12/06
  98.   Mixed up history (Jabadini #48, Boycott #76) 21:21  |  Tosefta 12/12/06
  99.   Otto Rand. 21:30  |  PETER SM 12/12/06
  100.   TBORA I have no literacy."REAL intellectuals"hate Israel. 21:38  |  PETER SM 12/12/06
  101.   #65 Gabe 1 21:40  |  eva 12/12/06
  102.   Mike WHATEVER #78 21:42  |  Gabe1 12/12/06
  103.   Gabe1 i should have added 21:47  |  eva 12/12/06
  104.   Does the Green Line matter? 22:00  |  Paul 12/12/06
  105.   Paranoia about Britain (Sh #89) 22:02  |  Tosefta 12/12/06
  106.   #76 Jabadini 22:17  |  Boycott 12/12/06
  107.   Holocaust tales (ODP #92) 22:20  |  Tosefta 12/12/06
  108.   Eva (Iva) 22:31  |  Gabe1 12/12/06
  109.   To # 62 me from me + hello gabe1 22:33  |  dana 12/12/06
  110.   Eva(Iva) #101 22:43  |  Gabe1 12/12/06
  111.   #78 KATZ MEEOWING AGAIN ABOUT STOLEN LANDS 22:55  |  paul harris 12/12/06
  112.   Sullivan and Tamir 23:10  |  howiej 12/12/06
  113.   Dana #109 23:27  |  Gabe1 12/12/06
  114.   #108 Gabe1 Sorry Gabe I didnt do 23:47  |  eva 12/12/06
  115.   #110 Gabe Thank you for giving me a 23:57  |  eva 12/12/06
  116.   Nonsense 00:01  |  ussishkin 13/12/06
  117.   Yuli Tamir 00:14  |  From the Moon 13/12/06
  118.   Ben Gurion and the Land of Israel 00:17  |  Gabriel Goren 13/12/06
  119.   don`t blame the settlers, blame the governments of Israel 00:42  |  Ruth Egdi 13/12/06
  120.   Rehovot 01:33  |  John and thee truth 13/12/06
  121.   Madam Tamir 01:34  |  From the Moon 13/12/06
  122.   44 sarah 01:38  |  john and the truth 13/12/06
  123.   #91, Otto Rand 04:56  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 13/12/06
  124.   To Peter SM #2 05:54  |  Otto Rand 13/12/06
  125.   To Ruth Egdi 05:56  |  Otto Rand 13/12/06
  126.   Annex Gaza and West Bank immediately 06:09  |  zeev geneva 13/12/06
  127.   to Paul Harris #111 06:20  |  Otto Rand 13/12/06
  128.   to Yair #42 - part 1 06:20  |  zeev 13/12/06
  129.   to Yair #42 - part 2 06:22  |  zeev 13/12/06
  130.   Otto Rand 06:24  |  Danite 13/12/06
  131.   to Jabadini #46 - 3rd try 06:25  |  zeev 13/12/06
  132.   To Danite 06:50  |  Otto Rand 13/12/06
  133.   Re: Holocaust tales, #107 06:59  |  Seymour 13/12/06
  134.   Marylin 07:56  |  John and the truth 13/12/06
  135.   The same all Zionist lies 08:22  |  Andrew Watson 13/12/06
  136.   Suicide bombers....Question 08:27  |  Thor 13/12/06
  137.   126: Zeev, Lets do the same in Switzerland and the EU! 08:53  |  David Teich 13/12/06
  138.   Otto: All of the blathering 08:58  |  David Teich 13/12/06
  139.   Otto: Making your own definitions? 09:00  |  David Teich 13/12/06
  140.   to Otto Rand #91 09:02  |  zeev 13/12/06
  141.   Tamir must B ed-JEW-cated: Land of Israel is 4 people of Israel 09:47  |  sam 13/12/06
  142.   #113 Gabe1 13:46  |  dana 13/12/06
  143.   142: Dana, what weird thoughts 16:38  |  David Teich 13/12/06
  144.   Perceptive Column on "Good Jews" 01:40  |  Tod Zuckerman 14/12/06
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