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Conservative Jews to vote on whether to ordain gays as rabbis
By Shmuel Rosner, Haaretz Correspondent

Twenty-five Conservative rabbis began a thorny debate on Tuesday on the
place of homosexuals in their movement. The debate will continue on Wednesday, in the hopes of reaching a decision, but regardless, a press conference has been called for noon. Rabbi Joel Meyers, executive vice president of the Rabbinical Assembly, said he finds it hard to believe that a decision will once again be postponed, as it was when the assembly first discussed the issue several months ago. The rabbis must decide: Can homosexuals become Conservative rabbis and cantors? Can Conservative rabbis cbonduct same-sex commitment ceremonies?

The Conservative Movement -once the largest Jewish movement in America, but now steadily shrinking- has been debating the issue for some time. In 1992, it rejected proposals for homosexual equality, but since then, the pressure has intensified. The problem, explained one Rabbinical Assembly member, is how to explain rabbinic decisions to Conservative laymen, many of whom "don't understand the halakhic issues involved. They live in a liberal society, and they simply want us to change the laws, just as America changed its laws to give homosexuals equal rights."

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Anne Kaiser is one of those who favor such a change. Not that she wants to be a rabbi  she likes her job as a Maryland state legislator, to which she was reelected last month as an avowed lesbian. And she said that her rabbi gave her to understand that she and her partner could hold a commitment ceremony in the synagogue, regardless. Nevertheless, she would like to see it official.

For opponents, however, such a radical break with tradition is not only
unacceptable, it could also even be grounds for leaving the movement. This is the most divisive debate the movement has experienced since its debate 30 years ago over equality for women.

Rabbi Joel Roth, who formulated the movement's 1992 opinion against any change in the status of homosexuals, said at the time he simply could not identify any halakhic loophole that would permit such a change  and because the Conservative Movement defines itself as a halakhic movement, such a decision would require some basis in the religious sources.

"An inability to legitimate homosexuality halakhically makes no negative claim whatsoever about the humanity, sanctity, worth and dignity of homosexuals," he stressed in a lecture on the subject. But the Torah's blunt statement on homosexual relations  that a man lying with another man as he would lie with a woman is an "abomination" (Leviticus 18:22)  leaves no wriggle room, say Roth's adherents.

The Rabbinical Assembly's Committee on Jewish Laws and Standards that will vote Wednesday in New York, however, is not that of 1992: Only nine of its 25 members are the same. Meyers said the current committee maintains a balance between "liberals" and "conservatives," but acknowledged that the generational change might also have changed the meaning of these terms, which in turn could result in a different outcome at Wednesday's vote.

Opponents of Roth's view argue that the Torah prohibition, as well as subsequent rulings by the rabbis, related to a different time and a different type of homosexuality. The Torah, they say, banned what existed then, but could not have banned today's homosexuality, because the current incarnation of same-sex relations is an invention of the modern world.

"Sex, in antiquity, was an activity, not an orientation," explained Rabbi Bradley Hartson, one of the advocates of this view. "The meaning of the activity was determined by its context. In the case of same gender sex, that context was always one that treated a human being as an object, or [one] of oppression." And that, he argues, differs from today's model of consensual, caring, same-sex relationships.

"The rabbis were never at a loss for ways to transform or circumvent a biblical institution when later on it came to be viewed as ethically unjustifiable," added Rabbi Howard Handler.

Five different rabbinical opinions have been submitted to the committee for consideration, ranging from no change through limited rights to complete equality for homosexuals. This gives the panel some room to maneuver, and the prevailing view is that it will opt for a compromise: It will adopt one opinion that forbids homosexual ordination and same-sex commitment ceremonies, and another that permits them.

The rules make such an outcome possible: The committee requires a majority of 13 to adopt a binding ruling, but only six votes in favor are needed to adopt a "responsum"  defined as one possible interpretation of a halakhic issue, but not the only one. Thus the committee is widely expected to adopt two contradictory responsa but no binding ruling. That way, each Conservative congregation could decide for itself.

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  1.   were here and were queer 01:54  |  BENNY 06/12/06
  2.   Good Idea; so what 01:55  |  Semsem 06/12/06
  3.   Conservative Movement Time to say NO 03:09  |  Arie 06/12/06
  4.   Is this the latest jewish joke ? lol 03:19  |  Yankelowitz 06/12/06
  5.   Needed like hole in the head 03:21  |  Sexually Normal 06/12/06
  6.   #1 Benny NY 03:32  |  Authenticator 06/12/06
  7.   I support equal rights for gays 03:39  |  Matt 06/12/06
  8.   Gays are fine, but not as rabbis 03:56  |  Moises 06/12/06
  9.   The act is an abomination but the homosexual isn`t 03:56  |  Daniel Friedman 06/12/06
  10.   continued 03:57  |  Daniel Friedman 06/12/06
  11.   why must there be a vote anyway? 04:31  |  Dale 06/12/06
  12.   Equal Rights 05:15  |  Nicole 06/12/06
  13.   conservatives 05:16  |  Rabbi Yakov Lazaros 06/12/06
  14.   6 Authenticator 07:14  |  benny 06/12/06
  15.   If You`re Going To Ordain Gays As Rabbis, Then... 07:25  |  Yosemite Sam 06/12/06
  16.   to Arie 08:11  |  ruti 06/12/06
  17.   ordain gays as rabbis 08:29  |  levine 06/12/06
  18.   NO to gay rabbis 08:43  |  sho 06/12/06
  19.   Conservatives go the way of Reform and the middle ground caves in 08:58  |  Sim 06/12/06
  20.   End of Conservative Halacha 09:35  |  Joe 06/12/06
  21.   to #5, Hole in the Head 09:55  |  The Golem 06/12/06
  22.   religion isn`t state, tolerance isn`t validation 10:44  |  DJStahl 06/12/06
  23.   Ordination of Homosexuals and Torah 11:32  |  Reuven 06/12/06
  24.   Freedom of Choice 11:35  |  Jay A Friedman 06/12/06
  25.   one way street 11:53  |  D Hirod 06/12/06
  26.   Gay people should focus their efforts on fighting religion 12:25  |  Stephen Murray 06/12/06
  27.   #5: Sexually Normal: A question 12:29  |  Stephen Murray 06/12/06
  28.   #14 Benny 16:04  |  Authnticator 06/12/06
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