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Last update - 20:26 24/11/2006
We can't be war criminals, we're Palestinian
By Bradley Burston

In a thousand ways, in a thousand places, the Qassam rocket has
been written off.

It has been routinely dismissed as negligible, its capability little more than symbolic, barely a weapon at all when compared to the monstrous might of Israel's arsenal.

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Media dispatches sent round the world describe the Qassams as primitive, unguided, home-made.

They are all of those. They are also a war crime.

They are a lethal weapon fired intentionally and specifically at purely civilian targets. As such, their use, at the hands of their Palestinian gunners, is a flagrant violation of international law.

"Preposterous," the chorus of exclusively pro-Palestinian progressives will now chime. "The Palestinians have no other means to defend themselves from the savagery, the butchery practiced by Israel, which kills many, many more civilians."

"Everyone knows that the Israelis are the war criminals here," Palestinians themselves may offer. "Remember who the real victims are. Examine what Israel has done to us. Open your eyes. We are the victims in this place. We cannot be war criminals, we are the Palestinians."

Fair enough. Don't take my word for it. Take the word of Human Rights Watch.

Any party to any armed conflict "is obligated to abide by international humanitarian law, or the laws of war," the organization declared earlier this month, after a Sderot mother of two was killed by a Qassam.

"Because Qassams are not capable of accurate targeting, it is unlawful to use them in or near areas populated with civilians."

"International humanitarian law prohibits direct attacks against civilians and civilian objects as well as indiscriminate attacks and attacks that cause disproportionate damage to civilians," the organization continued. "A prohibited indiscriminate attack includes using weapons that are incapable of discriminating between civilians and combatants or between civilian and military objects."

Sarah Leah Whitson, Middle East director at Human Rights Watch, went further.

"The Hamas-led Palestinian Authority needs to take immediate steps to end attacks on civilians by Hamas' own militant wing and other armed groups," Whitson said. "If the Palestinian Authority aspires to recognition as a lawful government, it must stop these blatant violations of the most fundamental principles of international humanitarian law."

At this juncture, the irked progressive may be heard to ask what any sane person could expect the Palestinians to do- just do nothing, sit on their hands and wait for the Israelis to come and strafe them in their homes, blow holes in their walls, shell their sidewalks?

No one expects them to do nothing. But why do the wrong thing, the immoral thing, the inhuman thing? What gives a war crime the cache of self-defense? Especially when that criminal act only provokes more escalation, more killing, more crimes.

You may ask, when Israeli artillery, ill-advised, ill-directed, ill-spotted, ill-timed, and lacking a real-time target of a Qassam launching crew, shells a residence a quarter mile from its intended target, killing a score of innocents in tragic error, is that not a violation of international humanitarian law as well?

It is. And it is up to Israel to accept responsibility, bring those responsible to justice, and, crucially, take concrete steps to prevent a recurrence of the tragedy.

Just as it is up to Palestinians of moral conscience to rise up and speak out against their side's violations of international law in the firing of Qassams.

"The fact that Hamas characterizes its attacks as reprisals does not exempt it from the ban on targeting civilians," said Whitson. "There is never any justification for targeting civilians."

Moreover, the organization said in a statement, "Unlawful attacks said to be committed in response to another unlawful attack are a form of reprisal, which is a violation of international humanitarian law."

Until this year, when Hamas became the democratically elected ruling party of the Palestinian Authority, the PA could argue that attacks on civilians were the work of independent armed organizations beyond the Authority's control.

No more. Hamas is now the government. As a result, the act of firing Qassams has now been upgraded. Once it was merely terrorism. Now it has become state terrorism.

On the solely pragmatic level, the Qassams have tarnished and undermined the Palestinian cause as has no other action since suicide bombings cost the Palestinians their entire reservoir of international sympathy.

Certainly, the United Nations' chief human rights official is never going to feel the same way about Hamas after nearly being hit by a Qassam this week.

UN Commissioner for Human Rights Louise Arbour was sent to the area after touring Sderot when Qassams landed a few hundred yards from her car. One of the rockets crashed through a factory roof, killing plant worker Yaakov Yakobovich, 43, a father of four children.

Arbour's position, a UN spokesman said after she visited Gaza earlier in the day, was that Qassam rockets were illegal weapons because they are inaccurate, and those firing them cannot distinguish between combatants and civilians.

But Abu Ubaida, a spokesman for the Hamas armed wing and, thus, for its attitude toward international law, was having none of it.
"There should be no sympathy for the enemy," he declared, "which shows no sympathy for our women and children."

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  1.   No Duh! 11:15  |  El 24/11/06
  2.   No Duh! 11:24  |  Eli 24/11/06
  3.   A tired argument for a well worn path 11:31  |  Natallie Durson 24/11/06
  4.   Responsibility 11:45  |  Shaka 24/11/06
  5.   Who Really Fires The Qassams? 11:49  |  Rowan Berkeley 24/11/06
  6.   To # 2 What an humanist ! lol 12:13  |  Yankelowitz 24/11/06
  7.   Nattalie 12:14  |  Eckedin 24/11/06
  8.   No Matter What The UN Says ..... 12:17  |  Terry 24/11/06
  9.   choice of words 12:19  |  christoph 24/11/06
  10.   To # 3 Nathalie - Keep cool darling I have the figures :-0) 12:19  |  Yankelowitz 24/11/06
  11.   Why there are more palistinian civilian casualties 12:26  |  Libby 24/11/06
  12.   It`s just as well that Qassams are crap! 12:39  |  David Miller 24/11/06
  13.   Natalie Durson 12:39  |  Yaron 24/11/06
  14.   improve the world, start with yourself 12:44  |  Ernst 24/11/06
  15.   Technology 12:45  |  revoLtoP 24/11/06
  16.   The Palestinians have always immorally targeted civilians 12:54  |  Shalom Freedman 24/11/06
  17.   Israelis have to learn to distinguish ! 12:57  |  Swiss (Dino) 24/11/06
  18.   Proportionality of war Criminality. 13:01  |  Tony Price 24/11/06
  19.   Rowan, it`s the Hamas (governement) claiming responsibility 13:04  |  David 24/11/06
  20.   It`s the problem and the solution 13:13  |  Geoff 24/11/06
  21.   What state? 13:28  |  Khalid 24/11/06
  22.   Dino Israelis have to learn to distinguish ! 13:30  |  Yaron 24/11/06
  23.   Rowan Berkeley 13:44  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 24/11/06
  24.   Bradly,finest marksman in the World,wants to punish IDF gunners 13:45  |  Absolute Sweden 24/11/06
  25.   Combatants ? 13:50  |  Klaudia 24/11/06
  26.   The World has expectations... 13:55  |  Guess who 24/11/06
  27.   Khalid and International law 14:06  |  Yaron 24/11/06
  28.   There is no parallel between the two! 14:14  |  Jeremy 24/11/06
  29.   Kahlid goes on about rape again 14:24  |  bbl 24/11/06
  30.   No sympathy for the enemy 14:24  |  William 24/11/06
  31.   Eli from TA 1 14:27  |  northern neighbor 24/11/06
  32.   "zionists" must understand you cant steal 15:03  |  Sam (UK) 24/11/06
  33.   Jeremy 15:15  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 24/11/06
  34.   Rowan Berkeley #5 15:19  |  Gee 24/11/06
  35.   1870 15:19  |  Mario Fiorito 24/11/06
  36.   Sam (UK) #32 15:25  |  Gee 24/11/06
  37.   Northern Neighbor 15:31  |  Miriam Makeba 24/11/06
  38.   Hamas statement says it all 15:31  |  Harry 24/11/06
  39.   Rowan Berkely, Hamas admits they are firing 15:34  |  British academic 24/11/06
  40.   review please! 15:35  |  Lebanese 24/11/06
  41.   We can`t be war criminals, we`re Israelis 15:36  |  Fred 24/11/06
  42.   Gee Palestine is already established 15:39  |  Tamir Gaza 24/11/06
  43.   Sam, the zionists dont think that they are stealing 15:40  |  British academic 24/11/06
  44.   Eli Lebanese are chicken cowards 15:41  |  Tamir Gaza 24/11/06
  45.   Margie of the UK 15:41  |  Gabe1 24/11/06
  46.   ah ha 15:44  |  sam i am 24/11/06
  47.   Margie of the UK #33 15:58  |  GS 24/11/06
  48.   ...NO TRUCE TILL IDF SOLDIER GILAD FREE !!! 16:01  |  abraham...mico 24/11/06
  49.   #18 maori champion EXPRESSES LEGAL OPINION 16:10  |  paul harris 24/11/06
  50.   332 sam READS A TELEGRAM FROM AL JAZEERA 16:18  |  paul harris 24/11/06
  51.   To British Academic 16:25  |  Mark B. 24/11/06
  52.   Palestinian nationalism=fascism 16:32  |  Esther 24/11/06
  53.   Very good article 16:39  |  KUTW 24/11/06
  54.   Dino the Swiss Cheese guy 16:40  |  Gabe1 24/11/06
  55.   Mr Bradley, it is funny!!! Israel can make no worse! 16:46  |  Marco 24/11/06
  56.   "War criminals" accusation absurd and irresponsible. 16:47  |  BouSameer 24/11/06
  57.   3. Natallie Durson: On figures 16:47  |  KUTW 24/11/06
  58.   Who says that all the Israeli areas targeted... 16:50  |  Veritas 24/11/06
  59.   Swiss(Dino) 16:50  |  ODP 24/11/06
  60.   GS (Gabe) 16:52  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 24/11/06
  61.   Lebanese 4 million bombs dropped and 16:56  |  British academic 24/11/06
  62.   Natalie - Question 17:04  |  ODP 24/11/06
  63.   Jeremy 17:13  |  ODP 24/11/06
  64.   Ernst- It`s not so simple 17:18  |  ODP 24/11/06
  65.   HRW have lost the plot on this one 17:18  |  Marilyn 24/11/06
  66.   sam i am ah ha 17:25  |  Yaron 24/11/06
  67.   the occupation 17:26  |  Gershon 24/11/06
  68.   TO KHALID 17:27  |  Yehuda 24/11/06
  69.   Crime, and punishment 17:37  |  Tosefta 24/11/06
  70.   Silly rhetorical question 17:43  |  hollingsworth 24/11/06
  71.   Gershon you are a fool 17:44  |  Marilyn 24/11/06
  72.   Marilyn 17:54  |  Jasmine Murphy 24/11/06
  73.   Crime, and punishment 18:00  |  Tosefta 24/11/06
  74.   KUTW 18:06  |  Gabe1 24/11/06
  75.   That has always been the story, NO RESPONSABILITY FOR PALESTINIAN 18:10  |  Jorge 24/11/06
  76.   ODP 18:18  |  Ernst 24/11/06
  77.   Mark B 18:19  |  British academic 24/11/06
  78.   17 - Response 18:22  |  Bruriah Sarah 24/11/06
  79.   # 54 Gabe 1 Having a good day today ? 18:24  |  Swiss (Dino) 24/11/06
  80.   war criminals all 18:25  |  ravi 24/11/06
  81.   18 - Israel Warned the Citizens 18:29  |  Bruriah Sarah 24/11/06
  82.   #3 Right on the mark 18:32  |  Jens 24/11/06
  83.   18 - Hezbollah used Cluster bombs 18:32  |  Bruriah Sarah 24/11/06
  84.   KHALID`S UNDERSTANDINGS 18:33  |  Brant 24/11/06
  85.   18 - Not Disproportionate 18:35  |  Bruriah Sarah 24/11/06
  86.   28 - Response 18:37  |  Bruriah Sarah 24/11/06
  87.   Swiss 18:38  |  ODP 24/11/06
  88.   32: Settlements are Legal 18:39  |  Bruriah Sarah 24/11/06
  89.   40 - Your figures are wrong 18:45  |  Bruriah Sarah 24/11/06
  90.   # 58 ODP 18:51  |  Swiss (Dino) 24/11/06
  91.   quassam 18:53  |  SALAH 24/11/06
  92.   Marilyn of Australia 18:55  |  Jack 24/11/06
  93.   #3 18:55  |  Gili 24/11/06
  94.   Correction 18:59  |  Elimelech 24/11/06
  95.   Marilyn of Australia part 2 19:04  |  Jack 24/11/06
  96.   To #10. Disproportionate 19:13  |  Rope-a dope 24/11/06
  97.   47 - Hamas wants to destroy Israel 19:18  |  Bruriah Sarah 24/11/06
  98.   64 - The PA & et al always wanted to destroy Israel 19:22  |  Bruriah Sarah 24/11/06
  99.   #43 British Academic 19:27  |  Metatron 24/11/06
  100.   51 - Peace Now lied 19:28  |  Bruriah Sarah 24/11/06
  101.   59 - Response 19:32  |  Bruriah Sarah 24/11/06
  102.   marilyn 19:34  |  bev 24/11/06
  103.   Qassams are wrong but... 19:39  |  Wael 24/11/06
  104.   You Got to Love This - To Marilyn 19:43  |  Barry 24/11/06
  105.   hollingsworth: lose all meaning 19:44  |  Yaron 24/11/06
  106.   Mr. Justice Burston 19:48  |  goo 24/11/06
  107.   Natalie Durson 19:50  |  Gabe1 24/11/06
  108.   hollingsworth 19:52  |  Ben Marx 24/11/06
  109.   Gee 19:53  |  Gabe1 24/11/06
  110.   Marilyn #64 20:02  |  Gabe1 24/11/06
  111.   ODP it depends on what kind of murder attempt was it 20:04  |  Tamir Gaza 24/11/06
  112.   Qassam 20:04  |  Khalifah 24/11/06
  113.   Crime, and punishment 20:16  |  Tosefta 24/11/06
  114.   # 54 Gabe 1 Having a good day, Gabe ? 20:21  |  Swiss (Dino) 24/11/06
  115.   #64 -- Marilyn, you are the fool 20:25  |  MichaelF 24/11/06
  116.   Natallie Durson # 3 Figures 20:26  |  Jeff Northridge 24/11/06
  117.   Khalid 20:31  |  Samir Khoury 24/11/06
  118.   To Wael 20:32  |  Yaron 24/11/06
  119.   Metatron is raving 20:33  |  British academic 24/11/06
  120.   Re: 81-82 Bruriah Sarah and her videos 20:36  |  Markus 24/11/06
  121.   Khalifah 20:41  |  Yoav 24/11/06
  122.   Crime, and punishment 20:44  |  Tosefta 24/11/06
  123.   #69 Bruriah Sarah 20:48  |  Boycott 24/11/06
  124.   Swiss(Dino) 20:52  |  ODP 24/11/06
  125.   Hamas excuses (2nd try) 20:56  |  KUTW 24/11/06
  126.   21Khalid: What state 21:04  |  KUTW 24/11/06
  127.   # 124 ODP 21:09  |  Swiss (Dino) 24/11/06
  128.   GABE1: DUMB 21:14  |  CHGODMK 24/11/06
  129.   Gabe, I like your style 21:15  |  albert amato 24/11/06
  130.   your the ones rejecting the cease fire 21:21  |  Karam 24/11/06
  131.   Esther: Palestinian nationalism=fascism 21:35  |  Fiona 24/11/06
  132.   Mr. Bradley Burston: What About Intent? 21:50  |  Jeff Northridge 24/11/06
  133.   Samir Khoury 21:56  |  Jasmine Murphy 24/11/06
  134.   yawn. I always intend to read Tosefta.s 21:58  |  Jasmine Murphy 24/11/06
  135.   Samir Khoury Israel didn`t come because you plea for it 22:02  |  Tamir Gaza 24/11/06
  136.   War Crim 22:09  |  Alan 24/11/06
  137.   to Yaron of Barcelona 22:17  |  hollingsworth 24/11/06
  138.   jack re Marilyn 22:58  |  bev 24/11/06
  139.   Khalid 22:58  |  Jack 24/11/06
  140.   Margie of the UK #60 22:59  |  Gabe1 24/11/06
  141.   Khalifah 23:10  |  bev 24/11/06
  142.   since 2000 over 2100 GAZAN have... 23:54  |  MIKE KATZ 24/11/06
  143.   Natallie Durson 00:16  |  Sol 25/11/06
  144.   What`s new here?PLO from day one 00:24  |  peter 25/11/06
  145.   "defensive weaponry" 00:38  |  Esther 25/11/06
  146.   Palestinians AND Lebanon 00:51  |  Alpha 25/11/06
  147.   # 144 peter 01:04  |  Swiss (Dino) 25/11/06
  148.   Come on Hamas prove me wrong! 01:12  |  Timothy 25/11/06
  149.   When Israel stops shelling civilians 01:32  |  The Doctor 25/11/06
  150.   The Quassams must stop 01:34  |  H50 25/11/06
  151.   142 Mike K. In WWII 20 million Germans were killed and/or maimed 01:38  |  Michigan 25/11/06
  152.   #119 British Academic 01:39  |  Metatron 25/11/06
  153.   Will palestinians ever? 01:48  |  Billy Jack 25/11/06
  154.   Reciprocate? 01:49  |  H50 25/11/06
  155.   Pals Forfiet of International Law ! 01:55  |  HonestAbe 25/11/06
  156.   Getting better Brad 01:57  |  Efox 25/11/06
  157.   Albert Amato # 129 - personal question 02:01  |  Chanah 25/11/06
  158.   # 137 Hollingsworth 02:08  |  ChanahS 25/11/06
  159.   # 24 Absolute Sweden. I GOING TO USE YOU,HOPE YOU DON`T MIND.. 02:17  |  Kathy 25/11/06
  160.   RE 32 Sam 02:30  |  Alan 25/11/06
  161.   Fiona 02:33  |  Esther 25/11/06
  162.   Gili 02:38  |  H50 25/11/06
  163.   To Bruriah Sarah 02:50  |  Lebanese in Canada 25/11/06
  164.   To Bruriah Sarah 02:52  |  Lebanese in Canada 25/11/06
  165.   Natallie, Natallie, Natallie. My dear Natallie #3 03:03  |  Timothy 25/11/06
  166.   sympathy for 57y/o suicide bomber 03:17  |  peter 25/11/06
  167.   To Yaron from Barcelona 03:21  |  Lebanese in Canada 25/11/06
  168.   Tamir Gaza #5 re. Samir Khoury 03:26  |  Bruce 25/11/06
  169.   what would israel be like...if "IT" was inhabited by palestinians 03:31  |  nmf 25/11/06
  170.   Israel does not have civilians 03:33  |  Sandy 25/11/06
  171.   # 146 Palestinians AND Lebanon 03:34  |  Bruce 25/11/06
  172.   Gershon 1967war 03:44  |  John 25/11/06
  173.   ISRAEL`S DISOBEDIENCE 03:45  |  maria 25/11/06
  174.   # 134 Jasmine Murphy. yawn? WHY IS THAT JASMINE?WHAT CHANGED YOUR 03:48  |  Kathy 25/11/06
  175.   Alpha # 146 Accountability For Damages 04:14  |  Jeff Northridge 25/11/06
  176.   Hey, Chanah... 04:37  |  hollingworth 25/11/06
  177.   #104 Barry 04:41  |  Tony Price 25/11/06
  178.   Crimes should stop 05:16  |  Canadian 25/11/06
  179.   H50 05:24  |  Bruce 25/11/06
  180.   The Israel Blamers Preposterous Story 06:09  |  Tim 25/11/06
  181.   Ok. I agree. But....??? 06:19  |  Lebanese 25/11/06
  182.   re:179...Lebanese 07:02  |  Charles T. Brown 25/11/06
  183.   Reply to Khalid 07:06  |  David Kopel 25/11/06
  184.   Dear Sam (UK) 07:32  |  David Kopel 25/11/06
  185.   Farce 09:00  |  Khalifah 25/11/06
  186.   Bev in Toronto 09:09  |  Marilyn 25/11/06
  187.   Don`t talk in the place of the Palestinians 09:10  |  Noura 25/11/06
  188.   To Lebanese About What Palestinians should do 09:27  |  Tim 25/11/06
  189.   OK when was war declared? 09:34  |  Marilyn 25/11/06
  190.   170Sandy "Israel does not have civilians" 09:36  |  Michigan 25/11/06
  191.   # 129 Albert Amato The policy of vilifying 09:38  |  Swiss (Dino) 25/11/06
  192.   Figure It Out Later 10:04  |  Mark of Lewiston 25/11/06
  193.   #183, R u kidding, if gaza is not occupied then.. 10:17  |  al 25/11/06
  194.   #189 and all they have to do marylin IS RELEAASE SHALIT 10:43  |  paul harris 25/11/06
  195.   193al Gaza WAS NOT occupied until 10:51  |  Michigan 25/11/06
  196.   To #183 al 10:58  |  Roland 25/11/06
  197.   ISRAEL IS THE ILLEGAL OCCUPIER 11:13  |  indrajaya 25/11/06
  198.   GAZA : THE ONLY GHETTO IN THE WORLD 11:45  |  Lebanese 25/11/06
  199.   Let`s face it, If palestinians where blacks... 12:01  |  BouSameer 25/11/06
  200.   The 3rd World can do no wrong and the Pals. are the new saints. 12:38  |  PETER SM 25/11/06
  201.   Margie #33 12:46  |  Guido 25/11/06
  202.   # 197 Indrajaya 12:51  |  Josef 25/11/06
  203.   # 193 Al 12:53  |  Josef 25/11/06
  204.   Israeli logic 12:56  |  Rob 25/11/06
  205.   Gaza was illegally occupied in 1967 12:59  |  Marilyn 25/11/06
  206.   MARYLIN.War has been there from Arab terrorists since 1920`s. 13:03  |  PETER SM 25/11/06
  207.   # 199- BouSameer... Where is Your Evidence ? 13:25  |  Klaudia 25/11/06
  208.   #3 Natalie, Bravo! Bravo! The world is one with you. 13:31  |  Dutch 25/11/06
  209.   When Palestinians free themselves of the victim mentality 13:41  |  Ronnie Wolman 25/11/06
  210.   #195 Michigan, sorry, not correct 13:54  |  Johnboy 25/11/06
  211.   criminals 13:57  |  io 25/11/06
  212.   #8 13:59  |  kk 25/11/06
  213.   pal 14:06  |  tech 25/11/06
  214.   guido 14:21  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 25/11/06
  215.   Sandy`s strange definition of civilian 14:44  |  Esther 25/11/06
  216.   Albert Amato 15:05  |  Gabe1 25/11/06
  217.   Tamir Gaza 15:13  |  Gabe1 25/11/06
  218.   KATHY #159 15:24  |  Gabe1 25/11/06
  219.   Ronni Wolman 15:25  |  Danite 25/11/06
  220.   Nathalie Durso keep on sickening, You are lovely when yo are bold 15:31  |  Aby 25/11/06
  221.   #3 Natallie Durson spin 15:36  |  Zardos 25/11/06
  222.   Margie of Salaam re #201(Guido) 15:50  |  Gabe1 25/11/06
  223.   Klaudia 15:58  |  BouSameer 25/11/06
  224.   205: No, Marilyn. It was illegally occupied in `1948 16:04  |  David Teich 25/11/06
  225.   Wolman and victim mentality 16:05  |  BouSameer 25/11/06
  226.   193: Al, because you`re slow 16:06  |  David Teich 25/11/06
  227.   210: Wrong as usual, Johnboy 16:11  |  David Teich 25/11/06
  228.   Margie of Salaam & Guido #201 16:16  |  Gabe 1 25/11/06
  229.   canadian # 178 16:24  |  charles 25/11/06
  230.   To Chanah #157 16:31  |  albert amato 25/11/06
  231.   To "Lebanese" #181 16:43  |  Johnny 25/11/06
  232.   To Guido #201 16:47  |  Johnny 25/11/06
  233.   To io #211 16:49  |  Johnny 25/11/06
  234.   Sandy tells of tunnels that are 100`s of miles long 16:51  |  peter 25/11/06
  235.   To tech #213 16:55  |  Johnny 25/11/06
  236.   Sandy 170 16:57  |  Leah 25/11/06
  237.   The `Occupation` 16:58  |  David Kopel 25/11/06
  238.   John Boy`s Tortured Legal Formulations 17:07  |  David Kopel 25/11/06
  239.   to 198 Lebanon destroyed by Lebanon 17:09  |  Sarah 25/11/06
  240.   To Rob #204 17:14  |  Bruce 25/11/06
  241.   Margie of Salaam and Guido #201 17:21  |  G1 25/11/06
  242.   Peter of Salaam 17:23  |  G1 25/11/06
  243.   #221 David Kopel 17:24  |  Boycott 25/11/06
  244.   KATHY- YOU MUST HELP 17:24  |  GS1 25/11/06
  245.   under siege like switzerland or chad? 17:24  |  peter 25/11/06
  246.   BouSameer, Let`s face it, If palestinians where blacks... 17:28  |  Bruce 25/11/06
  247.   Finally Burston makes some sense 17:28  |  Marc 25/11/06
  248.   Marilyn: "When Was War Declared? 17:31  |  Tim 25/11/06
  249.   Albert Amato 17:32  |  Gabe1 25/11/06
  250.   #208, Doris, Bravo! Bravo! But the world is not with you. 17:34  |  Bruce 25/11/06
  251.   Kopel#222, I feel sorry for u, u admit it is occupation and .. 17:37  |  a 25/11/06
  252.   al # 193 Poor Choice of Words 17:40  |  Jeff Northridge 25/11/06
  253.   Kopel#222, I feel sorry for u, u admit it is occupation and .. 17:41  |  al 25/11/06
  254.   indrajaya #197, ISRAEL IS THE ILLEGAL OCCUPIER? 17:44  |  Bruce 25/11/06
  255.   Chfcuk1 17:49  |  Gabe 1 25/11/06
  256.   good job johnny, u r hero!! 17:49  |  al 25/11/06
  257.   Dutch obsession.#208 17:49  |  Zardos 25/11/06
  258.   181Lebanese: A sincere answer 17:57  |  Logician 25/11/06
  259.   210Johnboy Gaza was not "surrounded" after Israel pull-out 18:16  |  Michigan 25/11/06
  260.   Dutch # 208 Raw Data 18:21  |  Jeff Northridge 25/11/06
  261.   gaza 18:23  |  charles 25/11/06
  262.   Margie & Guido #201 18:23  |  Gabe S1 25/11/06
  263.   KATHY-Please 18:25  |  Gbae1 25/11/06
  264.   210Johnboy, Sorry, was not finished 18:30  |  Michigan 25/11/06
  265.   victim numbers 18:32  |  charles 25/11/06
  266.   al #227 18:33  |  Bruce 25/11/06
  267.   Ronnie of the Wall Man 18:34  |  G1 25/11/06
  268.   ACQUIRING SOVEREIGN TERRITORY 18:35  |  Stephen Connor 25/11/06
  269.   indrajaya...israel is the illegal occupier... 18:39  |  maria 25/11/06
  270.   Michigan - #151 18:44  |  Stephen Connor 25/11/06
  271.   #228 Zardos 18:51  |  Metatron 25/11/06
  272.   Johnboy # 210 Sorry, Not Correct 19:08  |  Jeff Northridge 25/11/06
  273.   Victim Numbers 19:08  |  Tim 25/11/06
  274.   #223 Jeff Northcott 19:09  |  Boycott 25/11/06
  275.   kk # 212 & tech # 213 Please Clarify 19:20  |  Jeff Northridge 25/11/06
  276.   Tim and No other option 19:31  |  hollingsworth 25/11/06
  277.   occupation 19:48  |  charles 25/11/06
  278.   Re #222 - David - The Occupation 19:49  |  Canadian 25/11/06
  279.   Boycott # 234 Too Many Counterexamples! 20:11  |  Jeff Northridge 25/11/06
  280.   #232 Metatron 20:15  |  Zardos 25/11/06
  281.   Logic and occupation (Jeff N #223; Al #193) 20:21  |  Tosefta 25/11/06
  282.   Re #207 Klaudia 20:33  |  Ca 25/11/06
  283.   Re #207 Klaudia 20:37  |  Canadian 25/11/06
  284.   #197 Indrajaya , You are right! 20:38  |  Dutch 25/11/06
  285.   Bradley Burston 20:39  |  Bretware 25/11/06
  286.   # 85 Bruriah Sarah 20:45  |  Nick Ferriman 25/11/06
  287.   Re 235 - Charles 20:46  |  Canadian 25/11/06
  288.   # 86 Bruriah Sarah 20:57  |  Nick Ferriman 25/11/06
  289.   # 89 Bruriah Sarah 21:07  |  Nick Ferriman 25/11/06
  290.   The Way the Arab mind works 21:12  |  Danite 25/11/06
  291.   Body counts 21:15  |  KB 25/11/06
  292.   Is the creation of Israel a mistake ? 21:20  |  JB Zakaria 25/11/06
  293.   To 249. Tosefta. Occupation or not ? 21:30  |  Altalena 25/11/06
  294.   Tosefta # 241 Nice Try, But It Boggles Common Sense 21:39  |  Jeff Northridge 25/11/06
  295.   canadian from another 21:40  |  bev 25/11/06
  296.   arabist apologigsts and the occupation lie 21:42  |  peter 25/11/06
  297.   canadian # 265 21:45  |  charles 25/11/06
  298.   Occupation (Altalena 271) 21:46  |  Tosefta 25/11/06
  299.   # 207 Klaudia.re:Bousameer. I CAN KLAUDIA!!! 21:57  |  Kathy 25/11/06
  300.   # 236 Gabe 1. GABE DEAR I HAVE BEEN HERE,BUT 22:01  |  KA 25/11/06
  301.   JB Zakaria, does Israel want to stay in its neighborhood ? 22:02  |  Bruce 25/11/06
  302.   Logic (Jeff N 277) 22:13  |  Tosefta 25/11/06
  303.   # 246 Gabe1. I HAVE BEEN TRYING MANY TIMES,BUT HAARETZ IS.... 22:13  |  Kathy 25/11/06
  304.   Kathy you wish 22:33  |  Tamir Gaza 25/11/06
  305.   So when? 22:34  |  Jim 25/11/06
  306.   Re #293 - bev 22:35  |  Canadian 25/11/06
  307.   arabist apologigsts and the occupation lie 22:39  |  Bruce 25/11/06
  308.   Re #275 Charles - Correction 22:40  |  Canadian 25/11/06
  309.   re 277 Jeff Northridge: many features of the occupation remain 22:44  |  Ben Alofs 25/11/06
  310.   #266 stephen in wonderment __ HISTORY HELPS 22:49  |  paul harris 25/11/06
  311.   Peter Of Montreal 22:57  |  Gabe 1 25/11/06
  312.   un implementations # 308 23:03  |  charles 25/11/06
  313.   Nick Ferriman # 284 Not Quite 23:09  |  Jeff Northridge 25/11/06
  314.   Nick Ferriman#286 23:11  |  Yariv 25/11/06
  315.   #309 is that so ben alofs ? ITS NOT THE WAY I REMEMBER IT ! 23:13  |  paul harris 25/11/06
  316.   Ignorant chasers of "Arab Apologists" and Occupation 23:21  |  Tosefta 25/11/06
  317.   Canadian I think you are pulling my leg 23:26  |  bev 25/11/06
  318.   paul harris #310, HISTORY HELPS, You are right but... 23:34  |  Bruce 25/11/06
  319.   # 311 Gabe 1 23:34  |  Swiss (Dino) 25/11/06
  320.   Tosefta aka ben Gurion 23:36  |  Danite 25/11/06
  321.   #249 Gabe 1 Are you human? 23:38  |  Maureen Ann 25/11/06
  322.   Hollingsworth and Israel`s Response Since 1948 23:39  |  Tim 25/11/06
  323.   Bruce 246 - Israel not Appartheid? 23:40  |  BouSameer 25/11/06
  324.   arabists apologists and windmills 23:44  |  peter 25/11/06
  325.   BHG aka TOSEFTA #316 Part one 23:52  |  Gabe 1. 25/11/06
  326.   Hey Hollingsworth... 23:56  |  Tim 25/11/06
  327.   To Hollingworth 00:00  |  Yaron 26/11/06
  328.   Stay stalwart defenders of Israel 00:01  |  albert amato 26/11/06
  329.   BHG aka Tosefta #316 Part Two 00:02  |  Gabe 1. 26/11/06
  330.   Tosefta # 302 We`re Squabbling About the Definiton of a Word 00:04  |  Jeff Northridge 26/11/06
  331.   #316 tosefta IGNORANCE CONTINUED AT THE ICJ 00:05  |  paul harris 26/11/06
  332.   To 298. Tosefta. Legality & reason 00:09  |  Altalena 26/11/06
  333.   Wrong yes, but Israel ultimately responsible 00:13  |  Pssd Off American 26/11/06
  334.   Jeff Northridge 00:19  |  Gabe1 26/11/06
  335.   Swiss re Peter #319 00:23  |  Gabe1 26/11/06
  336.   Palestinians speaking out ???????? 00:30  |  Avrum 26/11/06
  337.   # 321 Maureen Ann.re:Gabe.ENOUGH ALREADY WITH YOUR UNWARRANTED. 00:33  |  Kathy 26/11/06
  338.   #325, 329, Gabe1 and Danite 00:37  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 26/11/06
  339.   stupidy about economic blockade vs. occupation 00:46  |  Esther 26/11/06
  340.   BouSameer - 323 Israel not Appartheid 00:53  |  Bruce 26/11/06
  341.   #303, Kathy 00:54  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 26/11/06
  342.   #211 io i know who you are 00:54  |  eva 26/11/06
  343.   Apartheid turned on its head 00:57  |  David Kopel 26/11/06
  344.   # 335 Gabe 1 01:03  |  Swiss (Dino) 26/11/06
  345.   Pssd Off American, If Israel doesn`t want this responsibility. 01:03  |  Bruce 26/11/06
  346.   Being Moslem means never having to say you are sorry"Irshad Manji 01:05  |  PETER SM 26/11/06
  347.   to Marilyn-lets talk 01:06  |  bev 26/11/06
  348.   Who is the stupid, u r trying once to prove that occupation 01:11  |  Al 26/11/06
  349.   Reply to Canadian 01:14  |  David Kopel 26/11/06
  350.   Ben Alofs # "Occupation" Residua 01:24  |  Jeff Northridge 26/11/06
  351.   # 338 Cipora Julianna Kohn.re: Gabe and Danite. AND YOU KNOW WHO. 01:24  |  Kathy 26/11/06
  352.   P.O.AMERICAN You just got mugged by reality.Pals called ceasefire 01:36  |  PETER SM 26/11/06
  353.   Re #312 Charles 01:42  |  Canadian 26/11/06
  354.   Occupied people have the right to resist. 01:42  |  Abe from London 26/11/06
  355.   Israel was land grabbing before 1948 01:52  |  Abe 26/11/06
  356.   Re 317 bev 01:56  |  Canadian 26/11/06
  357.   306Canadian "Tory" who left US (~1776) wasn`t considered citizen 02:14  |  Michigan 26/11/06
  358.   Altalena # 332 That Was Very Good! 02:25  |  Jeff Northridge 26/11/06
  359.   Maureen Anne re gabe1 02:43  |  Danite 26/11/06
  360.   canadian final response 03:08  |  bev 26/11/06
  361.   Pssd Off American # 333 Are You Joking? 03:15  |  Jeff Northridge 26/11/06
  362.   #354, "Danite" 03:25  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 26/11/06
  363.   #292-Israel should come to Canada 03:38  |  Robert 26/11/06
  364.   Re #352 "Tory who left US" 03:42  |  Canadian 26/11/06
  365.   To pssd off American 03:42  |  Tim 26/11/06
  366.   CEASE FIRE - Let`s Make a Deal 03:46  |  Mark of Lewiston 26/11/06
  367.   #354 Danite re Maureen re Gabe 03:50  |  peter 26/11/06
  368.   We can`t be war criminals. we`re Jews 03:56  |  Joe 26/11/06
  369.   # 341 Cipora Julianna Khone.Thank you for the response.I sent you 03:59  |  Kathy 26/11/06
  370.   Really, Jeff? 04:34  |  Pssd Off American 26/11/06
  371.   Very ingenious of the Israel apologists... 04:34  |  Veritas 26/11/06
  372.   Occupation 04:45  |  Iraqi 26/11/06
  373.   Sam #32, that`s disturbing 04:50  |  Ron 26/11/06
  374.   Sam #32, that`s disturbing continued 04:55  |  Ron 26/11/06
  375.   Nattalie #2 Khalid #21, 05:01  |  Happy Infidel 26/11/06
  376.   What state by khaled 05:16  |  romeo 26/11/06
  377.   Bev! You need to understand the truth. 05:16  |  Toronto`s Finest 26/11/06
  378.   Danite #354 05:20  |  Gabe1 26/11/06
  379.   Sam in UK 05:24  |  happy infidel 26/11/06
  380.   Canadian #351 05:27  |  Bruce 26/11/06
  381.   Peter #357 05:31  |  Gabe1 26/11/06
  382.   Klaudia evidence by Bou sameer 05:50  |  Romeo 26/11/06
  383.   To Kathy- re: Apartheid Israel....Oh Dear ! 06:31  |  Klaudia 26/11/06
  384.   Reply to `Pissed Off American` 06:37  |  David Kopel 26/11/06
  385.   #339 Esther #355 Jeff on ending occupation 06:59  |  Johnboy 26/11/06
  386.   Toronto`s Finest? 07:13  |  Tim 26/11/06
  387.   Toronto`s Finest 07:25  |  ODP 26/11/06
  388.   tO joeof ramallah 07:27  |  JOJO 26/11/06
  389.   #16 IGNORING A GREATER TRUTH & THE REAL VILLIANS 07:34  |  Dutch 26/11/06
  390.   #355 Jeff, another try to talk about occupation 07:38  |  Johnboy 26/11/06
  391.   Cipora 07:45  |  Danite 26/11/06
  392.   Gabe1 07:50  |  danite 26/11/06
  393.   response to #18 08:10  |  Danny 26/11/06
  394.   370# Mr happy infidel: Please meet Gilad Atzmon 08:57  |  Sam (UK) 26/11/06
  395.   #Kathy 337 Checking my post to Gabe 249.... 09:09  |  Maureen Ann 26/11/06
  396.   357Canadian Right-of-Return`s aim: Destruction of Israel 09:32  |  Michigan 26/11/06
  397.   317Canadian You might care if Sharia Law was forced on Canada 09:41  |  Michigan 26/11/06
  398.   Oops Burston did it again 09:54  |  Mynderup 26/11/06
  399.   Palestinians are war criminals who cant keep a trucen for 1 hr 09:57  |  British academic 26/11/06
  400.   390: Johnboy ignoring reality again 10:07  |  David Tech 26/11/06
  401.   #382 Claudia Evidence 11:08  |  BouSameer 26/11/06
  402.   canadian 11:35  |  charles 26/11/06
  403.   Re 360 - Bev`s final responce 11:57  |  Canadian 26/11/06
  404.   Re #380 Bruce 12:13  |  Canadian 26/11/06
  405.   Re #396 Michigan 12:23  |  Canadian 26/11/06
  406.   Re #317 Michigan 12:31  |  Canadian 26/11/06
  407.   Re #402 - Charles 12:42  |  Canadian 26/11/06
  408.   # 314 Yariv 13:08  |  Nick Ferriman 26/11/06
  409.   To Natalie Durson 15:04  |  Mayer 26/11/06
  410.   canadian 407 15:07  |  charles