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Ten ways to make sure that peace stays dead
By Bradley Burston

We're six dreadful years into this war of ours. The number of dead has passed our ability to keep track, many more than 4,000 Palestinians, many more than 1,000 Israelis.

We are in a state of permanent eclipse. Never have we been more distrustful of the other. Never have we had less faith in our leaders. So poverty-stricken are we in leadership, Israelis and Palestinians as one, that even our leaders have lost the little esteem they may have once had for each other.

In Israel, the only conflict that Ehud Olmert and Amir Peretz are conducting with vigor and precision is a war with each other. The public having long lost all faith in either of them, each of them now shares at least the public's view of the other.

In Gaza, Fatah has long since lost its credibility, and Hamas is fast losing the adoration it held for nearly two decades.

Six dreadful years into this war, we have uncounted reasons why neither side can recognize the other long enough to sit at the same negotiating table. Neither side can quell its own internal spats long enough to discuss a cease-fire with the other.

Six years older, none the wiser, we have learned only this:

This is the place where peace plans come to die.

At this point, perhaps intransigence is all we have left. On both sides. Having lost our hope, we've lost our freedom. Having lost our compassion, we've lost our self-respect. Having lost our faith, we've lost our very future.

In the dim light of a spent horizon, in a place of crushed hopes, what, really, do the two sides have in common?

Too much, it turns out.

Incompetent in governance, unwilling to do what is needed to provide for our needy, incapable of finding ways to protect the vulnerable from enemy attack, we, Israelis and Palestinians both, have becomes masters only at making certain that peace stays dead.

Two peoples once known for their industriousness and creativity, we have become energetic only in dismissal, creative only in rejection.

Too many people on each side see the other as wholly culpable. Too many people on each side see themselves as wholly innocent, wholly victimized, ill-served by the well-meaning, abandoned by former allies, betrayed by the media, misunderstood by people who should know better, forgotten by the world.

Too many people on each side see only the suffering that has been caused them. Too many people have learned to wall themselves off from the suffering that they have caused.

At this point, even those of us who still have an ember of faith in a far dawn, may find that we're playing into the despair. Those of us who believe that the two sides should have an opportunity to listen to what the other has to say, run the risk of making it possible for each side to hear the other at its very worst.

Witness the Talkback.

For good or ill, there is nothing like this in human communication. Enemies talk. Real enemies. Furious, battered, vengeance-starved mortal enemies.

Now and then, enemies even listen. They may even learn.

Let this be said: the great majority of those who send talkbacks are people who honestly want to participate in an ongoing exchange of ideas.

But the price of relatively free speech - we will pause here for a moment to allow virtual produce and eggs to be thrown at our hard-working crew of censors - is the need on the part of a minority to vent, and thus propagate, venom.

For some among the community of the Extreme Talkbacker, the voice of reason is often the voice of racism.

For others, the talkback is tantamount to PlayStation 4, an entirely virtual world at your fingertips. A world that you yourself can construct. A fellow talkbacker takes issue with your opinion? Hit the Thesaurus of Death button. Take pride in a newfound epithet, a new vein of mud heretofore unslung.

The World According to Extreme Talkbacks is to the real world, as PlayStation is to actual warfare, actual martial arts, actual artistic endeavor, actual pleasure, actual blood.

But as virtual as this world can be, there is no question that the Extreme Talkbacker can do real harm.

Perhaps the harm is intentional, a function of rage and activism with no available address. Like the reader in Connecticut who feels the need to respond to an Israeli moderate who expresses sorrow and dismay and responsibility for the unintentional deaths of Palestinians, by telling the Israeli that he probably rejoiced in the killing of a fellow Israeli in a Palestinian rocket attack.

Then there are those, Palestinians and Israelis alike, who do not want to see peace, who have no interest in co-existence, who do not believe that the Holy Land was meant to be shared, and who could not care less if the talkbacks they send, only drive a further wedge between our two peoples.

So, for their sake, we unveil a new set of Extreme Talkback Guidelines, as seen from the viewpoint of the talkback terrorist, intended to maximize the strife here, intensify the conflict, and render any eventual peace accord so distant as to be hopeless:

1. There is only one side to any story. My side.

2. The people on the other side, children included, are undeserving of sympathy.

3. Even the maimed and the dead on the other side are undeserving of sympathy.

4. The term massacre may only be used to describe casualties on my side.

5. The automatic fire, bombing, shelling or other lethal action taken by my side are acts of self-defense. If there are fatalities as a result of fire by my side, whether intentional or incidental, they deserved to die.

Pro-Israel version I: Palestinian terrorists are to blame for the deaths, as they operate in residential areas, drawing fire that kills innocent civilians.

Pro-Israel version II: They're all terrorists. They all deserve what they get.

Pro-Palestinian version I: Suicide bombings, Qassams and drive-by's are the only defense that a vastly out-gunned people has against well-armed occupation forces.

Pro-Palestinian version II: All Israelis ultimately serve in the army, so all are legitimate targets.

6. The concept of drawing comparisons of moral equivalency or mutual responsibility for violence is, in all cases, obscene, disgraceful, artificial, mendacious.

All political, military, social and religious modalities can be reduced to pure victims and pure villains, which is to say, Us and Them, which is to say, Us and animals/murderers/mass-murderers/racist genocidalists/Nazis/Hitler.

Option 7A: The goal of the left, the center, this newspaper, its writers, even some of its readers, is the destruction of the State of Israel.

Option 7B: The destruction of Israel is a worthwhile goal.

8. If I am a pro-Israel extremist, responding to a pro-Israel moderate, I should attack and dismiss the writer as a whiner, a crybaby, a defeatist, a moron, a wimp, an imbecile, a self-hater, an extreme leftist, naïve, brainwashed, a pipe-dreamer, duped by the pro-Arab bias of the mass media, a traitor.

9. If I am a pro-Palestinian extremist, responding to a pro-Palestinian moderate, I should immediately dismiss the writer as a sell-out, a fool, misguided, an Uncle Tom, unaware of the real facts, duped by a the pro-Israel bias of the mass media, a traitor.

10. The depth of my conviction, that is, the degree of my extremism, is directly proportional to the distance from my home to the Holy Land. The farther away, the more foaming-at-the-mouth my fanaticism.


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Actual Talkback Guidelines

The guiding principles of the talkback forum for this article will be mutual respect and an openness to dialogue. Participants, even if they rule out, dismiss or oppose coexistence, must, within the confines of this forum, practice it.

Censorship will be unapologetic.

Political orientation will have absolutely no bearing on whether a comment is posted or rejected.

The following will be grounds for deletion:

1. Racist remarks, as well as slurs on the basis of religion, ethnicity and gender.
2. Use of the terms Nazi, Hitler, ethnic cleansing, to describe the actions and policies of Israelis, Palestinians or other parties to the Israel-Arab conflict.
3. Disparaging remarks, personal attacks, vulgarities and profanities directed at other participants in the forum.
4. Advocacy of violence against individuals or religious, ethnic or racial groups, including statements which may be construed as urging attacks on leaders, officials, security forces or civilians.
5.Use of the phrase: "There are no Palestinians" or derivatives thereof.

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  1.   Wow! 10:12  |  Rose 21/11/06
  2.   BRADLEY THIS POSTING IS CENSORED AS REQUESTED 10:14  |  paul harris 21/11/06
  3.   The Alaskan point of view 10:15  |  Jennifer L. Hewitt 21/11/06
  4.   Way to go 10:30  |  Nasser 21/11/06
  5.   Can you say moral relativism? 10:33  |  Israel Israeli 21/11/06
  6.   Well,Bradley..... 10:35  |  Zuriel 21/11/06
  7.   ISRAEL IS THE UPPER HAND 10:39  |  indrajaya 21/11/06
  8.   Every offer is worse than the status quo 10:40  |  Ilan 21/11/06
  9.   The truth is something different 10:41  |  Shalom Freedman 21/11/06
  10.   We are the World... We are the People... la ,la .la, 10:46  |  Klaudia 21/11/06
  11.   Well done! 10:47  |  Tom 21/11/06
  12.   what`s wrong with it 10:55  |  joe 21/11/06
  13.   the crux of the matter 10:57  |  Khalid 21/11/06
  14.   Peace, schmeace 10:58  |  Hannah 21/11/06
  15.   Overgeneralizations.... 11:10  |  Giles 21/11/06
  16.   10 Ways to Make Sure the War Keeps Going 11:17  |  Klaudia 21/11/06
  17.   Conflicts are man made, there are VICTIMS and AGRESSORS 11:28  |  Joe 21/11/06
  18.   # 16 Klaudia 11:32  |  ZURIEL 21/11/06
  19.   The bottom line of history ... 11:33  |  spyguy 21/11/06
  20.   Bored Burston or How to write an article after I bought PS3 11:35  |  Chuck 21/11/06
  21.   10 Ways to leave your hater 11:38  |  j10 21/11/06
  22.   # 16 Klaudia 1 Way to stay "happy" all your life..... 11:39  |  Swiss (Dino) 21/11/06
  23.   Conflicts are man made, there are VICTIMS and AGRESSORS 11:41  |  Joe 21/11/06
  24.   Why people like Burston are morons 11:54  |  Antonio Arab-hater 21/11/06
  25.   Joe: the Palestinian-Israeli conflict is unique 11:59  |  Zak 21/11/06
  26.   To Klaudia - You are great 12:01  |  Leb 21/11/06
  27.   Bradley, you forgot to include USE CAPITALS 12:01  |  Michael 21/11/06
  28.   #23 Joe 12:03  |  Tony Price 21/11/06
  29.   to #17 Klaudia, there is one more way 12:03  |  asad 21/11/06
  30.   Shadowplay 12:03  |  sh 21/11/06
  31.   #5 Israel Israeli claim to moral relativism 12:04  |  Johnboy 21/11/06
  32.   Joe 12:14  |  Walid 21/11/06
  33.   #26, Leb 12:23  |  Hannah 21/11/06
  34.   You scared the hell out of the spanish minister 12:24  |  Joseph E . 21/11/06
  35.   Khalid 12:27  |  Walid 21/11/06
  36.   #24- Antonio Arab Hater.... Some Thoughts on Racism 12:34  |  Klaudia 21/11/06
  37.   #27 michael i use capitals due to the utter ignorance of many of 12:36  |  paul harris 21/11/06
  38.   Klaudia 12:42  |  Walid 21/11/06
  39.   TO INDERAYA 12:47  |  Nicole 21/11/06
  40.   Joe 12:48  |  Walid 21/11/06
  41.   Khalid on dreams 12:49  |  sh 21/11/06
  42.   TO HANNAH 12:52  |  Nicole 21/11/06
  43.   #28 tony price and the MAORI prime minister 12:59  |  paul harris 21/11/06
  44.   Paul Harris 13:02  |  Walid 21/11/06
  45.   The Useful Idiot Part 2 by Amil Imani(shortened) 13:07  |  PETER SM 21/11/06
  46.   oh-so-reasonable 13:09  |  flimflam 21/11/06
  47.   HANNAH."So called Israel" by most of the world. 13:14  |  PETER SM 21/11/06
  48.   Palestinians 13:15  |  Fiona 21/11/06
  49.   Klaudia and Hannah could be sisters 13:16  |  Jasmine Murphy 21/11/06
  50.   Why doesn`t the IDF... 13:18  |  David King 21/11/06
  51.   For BBurston 13:19  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 21/11/06
  52.   Sorry Klaudia 13:20  |  David King 21/11/06
  53.   33 - Hannah about Klaudia 13:27  |  Leb 21/11/06
  54.   T.PRICE.Maoris do not quite agree with the rosy picture presented 13:29  |  PETER SM 21/11/06
  55.   Tell It To C Glick 13:36  |  Rowan Berkeley 21/11/06
  56.   # 49 Jasmine 13:36  |  Leb 21/11/06
  57.   Well said Bradley Burstan 13:46  |  Chris Linthwaite 21/11/06
  58.   Leb dance with virgins in heaven 13:47  |  watcher 21/11/06
  59.   sorry David King 13:48  |  Watcher 21/11/06
  60.   Response to Johnboy 13:49  |  Israel Israeli 21/11/06
  61.   RE israel israeli 13:51  |  karter 21/11/06
  62.   #44 WALID IS GOING TO TAKE HIS OWN ADVICE . 13:57  |  paul harris 21/11/06
  63.   "DAVID KING"Why don`t the Pals go hand to hand instead of Qassems 14:00  |  Peter S.M. 21/11/06
  64.   Ok, I`m convinced Hannah is a joke 14:03  |  Chaim 21/11/06
  65.   Looks Like I Rattled a Few Cages ! 14:04  |  Klaudia 21/11/06
  66.   I agree with #64 14:27  |  Anna 21/11/06
  67.   I am so fed up of the anti semites bleeting away 14:31  |  Nicole 21/11/06
  68.   Sorry, Tom Harris # 43 14:33  |  christa 21/11/06
  69.   TO KLAUDIA 14:34  |  Nicole 21/11/06
  70.   Paul 37. People might listen more without your CAPITALS. 14:41  |  Michael 21/11/06
  71.   Israel allways wants to be the boss of the region 14:49  |  Tamir Gaza 21/11/06
  72.   Question 14:59  |  David 21/11/06
  73.   40-walid 14:59  |  joe 21/11/06
  74.   Bradleys SOLUTION TO KASSAMS AND TERRORISM 15:00  |  B 21/11/06
  75.   Paul Harris 15:00  |  Walid 21/11/06
  76.   Bradley`s SOLUTION TO GENOCIDAL INTENT 15:01  |  B 21/11/06
  77.   Bradley`s SOLUTION TO FATWAS AND BEHEADINGS 15:02  |  B 21/11/06
  78.   Bradley`s SOLUTION TO KATUSHKAS AND NUCLEAR BOMBS 15:04  |  B 21/11/06
  79.   ten ways caused by Israel occupation to PA lands 15:04  |  Tamir Gaza 21/11/06
  80.   Bradley`s SOLUTION TO GAS CHAMBERS 15:05  |  B 21/11/06
  81.   # 69 Michael 15:05  |  Swiss (Dino) 21/11/06
  82.   Bradleys`s SOLUTION TO CAR BOMBS AND SUICIDE BOMBS 15:06  |  B 21/11/06
  83.   Bradley`s SOLUTION TO CRIME 15:07  |  B 21/11/06
  84.   Joe and Walid: the Palestinian-Israeli conflict is unique 15:13  |  Zak 21/11/06
  85.   Nasser-You Made My Day 15:13  |  Jane 21/11/06
  86.   # 58 - Watcher - First class one way ticket to heaven 15:15  |  Leb 21/11/06
  87.   Goodbye all! 15:23  |  Dave Kennaird 21/11/06
  88.   Mutual recognition (definition?)of essential legitimacy essential 15:24  |  Zak 21/11/06
  89.   # 69- Nicole- There was Never a Doubt in my Mind .... 15:26  |  Klaudia 21/11/06
  90.   ya Tamir Gaza Boy 15:27  |  Jasmine Murphy 21/11/06
  91.   Leb 15:37  |  Jasmine Murphy 21/11/06
  92.   karter 15:39  |  Jasmine Murphy 21/11/06
  93.   Babbler Burston,not everything`s relative 15:41  |  Absolute Sweden 21/11/06
  94.   Thank you for "Ten Ways" 15:46  |  albert amato 21/11/06
  95.   One way to make sure that peace stays alive. 15:49  |  Walter 21/11/06
  96.   7 is a bit one-sided, Bradley 15:55  |  H50 21/11/06
  97.   10 pathways continued 15:58  |  Herbert Kaine 21/11/06
  98.   Burston vs Talkbacker 16:05  |  Sidney 21/11/06
  99.   Margie- the teller of Whoppers 16:09  |  Gabe1 21/11/06
  100.   Klaudia #38 16:14  |  Gabe1 21/11/06
  101.   Bradley Gets Paid for It, We Don`t 16:14  |  Ovadiah ben Abraham 21/11/06
  102.   # 49- Jasmine Murphy Hannah and Her Sisters LOL 16:17  |  Klaudia 21/11/06
  103.   Move the debate forward 16:25  |  Sam 21/11/06
  104.   Bradley`s Good Article 16:28  |  Egyptian 21/11/06
  105.   # 100- Gabe 1 16:36  |  Klaudia 21/11/06
  106.   # 100- Gabe 1 16:36  |  Klaudia 21/11/06
  107.   False Symmetry again. Example: 16:37  |  Logician 21/11/06
  108.   Entire Arab-Israel conflict explained in less than 20 lines 16:52  |  MG 21/11/06
  109.   Gabe 1 16:56  |  Walid 21/11/06
  110.   Psit! Hey, Klaudia! 16:58  |  Who 21/11/06
  111.   Egyptian 17:00  |  Sam 21/11/06
  112.   Ten ways to make sure PEACE stays dead 17:00  |  davidf 21/11/06
  113.   Hmmmm 17:06  |  Freddz 21/11/06
  114.   Our choice 17:07  |  tzfonit 21/11/06
  115.   Why Joe is wrong 17:07  |  ODP 21/11/06
  116.   The Pal;estinians are ahead in the peace enterprise 17:09  |  Tosefta 21/11/06
  117.   "Ten Ways..." 17:15  |  sandra chitayat. 21/11/06
  118.   Egyptian #104 17:16  |  ODP 21/11/06
  119.   Walid # 109 17:20  |  Gabe1 21/11/06
  120.   # 110- Who 17:24  |  Klaudia 21/11/06
  121.   Great article Mr Burston 17:29  |  p 21/11/06
  122.   Gabe1 17:31  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 21/11/06
  123.   Tosefta 17:33  |  ODP 21/11/06
  124.   Klaudia-bashers / spin DJs 17:33  |  Reality Check 21/11/06
  125.   Peace will happen when 17:36  |  Bruriah Sarah 21/11/06
  126.   Ariel#8, from Z to A... then when you 17:36  |  Ziad 21/11/06
  127.   # 108- MG You Said It ! Great Analysis .... 17:42  |  Klaudia 21/11/06
  128.   # 109 Walid Please bring to an end Gabes suffering !! 17:44  |  Swiss (Dino) 21/11/06
  129.   116 - Hamas & Fatah want to destroy Israel 17:44  |  Bruriah Sarah 21/11/06
  130.   Klaudia and you got the answer in your own 17:47  |  Ziad 21/11/06
  131.   BRADLEY YOU GOT YOUR GEMAYEL ANSWER 17:47  |  paul harris 21/11/06
  132.   GABE 17:49  |  KUTW 21/11/06
  133.   Who Lives in the Land 17:50  |  invisible hand 21/11/06
  134.   Klaudia #65, You call it rattling cages, I call it 17:53  |  Ziad 21/11/06
  135.   You are so right (ODP 123) 17:53  |  Tosefta 21/11/06
  136.   Gabe1 17:57  |  ODP 21/11/06
  137.   122. Margie in Tel Aviv RE Gabe 17:58  |  KUTW 21/11/06
  138.   Dino the Swiss Cheese Guy 17:59  |  Gabe1 21/11/06
  139.   davidf in NJ, I like what you said. 18:00  |  Ziad 21/11/06
  140.   Way to go BB. I actually had to put my coffee down 18:00  |  Jacob Blues 21/11/06
  141.   KUTW- you`re smarter than that 18:02  |  peter 21/11/06
  142.   Invisible Hand 18:04  |  ODP 21/11/06
  143.   Nothing wrong with a little babysitting Zuriel 18:04  |  Jacob Blues 21/11/06
  144.   Thanks for providing Brad Burston with his example indrajaya 18:05  |  Jacob Blues 21/11/06
  145.   Ziad #126 18:07  |  gabe1 21/11/06
  146.   Here`s the point Shalom F. 18:08  |  Jacob Blues 21/11/06
  147.   Hey Klaudia, looks like you`ve managed to match indrajaya 18:10  |  Jacob Blues 21/11/06
  148.   Tosefta 18:11  |  ODP 21/11/06
  149.   And of course Khalid, manages to fit a few columns 18:11  |  Jacob Blues 21/11/06
  150.   133 - Response 18:16  |  Bruriah Sarah 21/11/06
  151.   Funny thing about Margie and all those "Meretz" supporters Gabe 18:18  |  Jacob Blues 21/11/06
  152.   Be afraid Gabe, be very afraid 18:20  |  Jacob Blues 21/11/06
  153.   Oh no, Walid said the forbidden word! 18:21  |  Jacob Blues 21/11/06
  154.   Here`s the funny thing Kim 18:24  |  Jacob Blues 21/11/06
  155.   # 141 peter By the way..... 18:28  |  Swiss (Dino) 21/11/06
  156.   150 18:31  |  ODP 21/11/06
  157.   Swiss(Dino) 18:35  |  ODP 21/11/06
  158.   Peace treaty 148 18:36  |  Tosefta 21/11/06
  159.   141peter 18:40  |  KUTW 21/11/06
  160.   AND ONE WAY TO MAKE PEACE... 18:41  |  MIKE KATZ 21/11/06
  161.   #152-dino when you get some knowledge 18:48  |  peter 21/11/06
  162.   A thought 18:49  |  from the 21/11/06
  163.   154. Jacob Blues 18:49  |  KUTW 21/11/06
  164.   # 151- Jacob Blues 18:50  |  Klaudia 21/11/06
  165.   Bradley Bursto makes me PROUD... 18:50  |  MIKE KATZ 21/11/06
  166.   Jacob#151 18:52  |  gabe1 21/11/06
  167.   Jacob Blues 18:58  |  Gabe1 21/11/06
  168.   I talk everywhere about peace and respect Kim 19:00  |  Jacob Blues 21/11/06
  169.   #159 KUTW 19:00  |  peter 21/11/06
  170.   KUTW 19:01  |  Steph 21/11/06
  171.   Oh woe Klaudia, I am wounded 19:05  |  Jacob Blues 21/11/06
  172.   To my dear Hannah #14 This is within the guidelines I assume 19:07  |  Ari ben Yisrael 21/11/06
  173.   Gabe1 @145, a position is not an offer. 19:09  |  Ziad 21/11/06
  174.   Glad to know Gabe 19:09  |  Jacob Blues 21/11/06
  175.   150 - Peace with Egyptians??? 19:11  |  Bruriah Sarah 21/11/06
  176.   160 - You will have peace when 19:13  |  Bruriah Sarah 21/11/06
  177.   # 157 ODP 19:16  |  Swiss (Dino) 21/11/06
  178.   To #64 Chaim & #66 Anna Yes you are correct 19:16  |  Ari ben Yisrael 21/11/06
  179.   No Gabe, you yell and scream 19:19  |  Jacob Blues 21/11/06
  180.   #81 sweiSS/dino 19:23  |  Ari ben Yisrael 21/11/06
  181.   Yes Gabe I have UK address 19:25  |  Margie in Tel Aviv. 21/11/06
  182.   Jasmine Murphy ofcourse I do care 19:25  |  Tamir Gaza 21/11/06
  183.   Great article. 19:27  |  cfs 21/11/06
  184.   169. peter 19:31  |  KUTW 21/11/06
  185.   170. Steph 19:37  |  KUTW 21/11/06
  186.   # 171- Jacob Blues 19:39  |  Klaudia 21/11/06
  187.   To #87 Dave Kennaird 19:44  |  Ari ben Yisrael 21/11/06
  188.   When was peace ever alive? 19:51  |  Pilly 21/11/06
  189.   Meeting the Quartet`s conditions 19:54  |  Anthony Warshaw 21/11/06
  190.   ODP #136 19:55  |  Gabe1 21/11/06
  191.   Not bad, but... 19:59  |  Colin Wright 21/11/06
  192.   Thank you #151 Jacob Blues 19:59  |  Ari ben Yisrael 21/11/06
  193.   Re #8 `Every offer is worse than the status quo` 20:02  |  Colin Wright 21/11/06
  194.   KUTW 20:03  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 21/11/06
  195.   Steph 20:04  |  Gabe1 21/11/06
  196.   Jacob Blues #171 20:10  |  Gabe1 21/11/06
  197.   To #25 `Joe the Palestinian-Israeli situation is unique` 20:10  |  Colin Wright 21/11/06
  198.   Ziad #173 20:13  |  gabe1 21/11/06
  199.   JB #174-Turning into a Ronnie 20:14  |  Gabe1 21/11/06
  200.   To The Lynch Mob... You Know Who You Are 20:14  |  Klaudia 21/11/06
  201.   Meaningless equivalency and hypocritic relativism 20:18  |  Michael N 21/11/06
  202.   JB#179. 20:19  |  Gabe1 21/11/06
  203.   189 - Hamas wants to destroy Israel 20:22  |  Bruriah Sarah 21/11/06
  204.   Ari Ben Israel #192 20:24  |  gabe1 21/11/06
  205.   Tamir Gaza 20:25  |  Jasmine Murphy 21/11/06
  206.   Gabe 20:26  |  Steph 21/11/06
  207.   Gabe1 a little sechel please 20:28  |  peter 21/11/06
  208.   # 138 Gabe 1 20:45  |  Swiss (Dino) 21/11/06
  209.   Oh my Gabe, where to begin 20:46  |  Jacob Blues 21/11/06
  210.   201 - Have you forgotten something? 20:46  |  Bruriah Sarah 21/11/06
  211.   Moral Relativism #5 20:48  |  Jack 21/11/06
  212.   In 30 years, there will be no Israel 20:49  |  Nathan 21/11/06
  213.   #194, Margie 20:50  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 21/11/06
  214.   don`t worry, Burston 20:51  |  sicko 21/11/06
  215.   # 180 Ari ben Yisrael Not your day today, Sabah...(Diff.) 20:52  |  Swiss (Dino) 21/11/06
  216.   Nail on the Head 20:52  |  TimothyL 21/11/06
  217.   194. Margie in Tel Aviv 20:53  |  KUTW 21/11/06
  218.   KUTW 20:55  |  Walid 21/11/06
  219.   Which names would those be, Klaudia? 21:01  |  Jacob Blues 21/11/06
  220.   Cipora 21:04  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 21/11/06
  221.   karter 21:05  |  Jack 21/11/06
  222.   KUTW 21:07  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 21/11/06
  223.   212 - Response 21:07  |  Bruriah Sarah 21/11/06
  224.   to israel israeli re; moral relativism 21:11  |  citizen zero 21/11/06
  225.   #189. Anthony Warshaw 21:13  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 21/11/06
  226.   218. Walid 21:20  |  KUTW 21/11/06
  227.   # 213 Cipora Julianna Kohn On a different matter, just a ..... 21:20  |  Swiss (Dino) 21/11/06
  228.   Cipora Julianna Kohn 21:28  |  Walid 21/11/06
  229.   Jacob B #209 21:30  |  Gabe1 21/11/06
  230.   #219, Margie 21:32  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 21/11/06
  231.   KUTW #217 21:34  |  Gabe1 21/11/06
  232.   Steph #206 21:36  |  Gabe1 21/11/06
  233.   222Margie in Tel Aviv 21:37  |  KUTW 21/11/06
  234.   The Doom of a Nation Re: 20 21:40  |  Chuck 21/11/06
  235.   KUTW 21:42  |  Walid 21/11/06
  236.   200.Klaudia: Well put 21:43  |  KUTW 21/11/06
  237.   # 219- Jacob Blues 21:45  |  Klaudia 21/11/06
  238.   Kim 21:52  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 21/11/06
  239.   231. Gabe1 21:55  |  KUTW 21/11/06
  240.   Gabe1 #232 22:02  |  Steph 21/11/06
  241.   Try arguing for a change Gabe 22:04  |  Jacob Blues 21/11/06
  242.   235 Walid 22:07  |  KUTW 21/11/06
  243.   Steph 22:08  |  Gabe1 21/11/06
  244.   Time to read your own writings Klaudia 22:17  |  Jacob Blues 21/11/06
  245.   #228, Walid 22:19  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 21/11/06
  246.   238. Margie in Tel Aviv 22:26  |  KUTW 21/11/06
  247.   The issue of absolutes vs. relativism, Klaudia 22:27  |  Jacob Blues 21/11/06
  248.   KUTW 22:32  |  Gabe1 21/11/06
  249.   Gabe, KUTW, Cipora 22:37  |  Steph 21/11/06
  250.   Steph #240 22:39  |  Gabe1 21/11/06
  251.   Gabe #243 22:39  |  Jacob Blues 21/11/06
  252.   #210- tiresome b.s 22:49  |  Michael N 21/11/06
  253.   KUTW 22:49  |  Walid 21/11/06
  254.   Cipora: The Blog 23:00  |  Ronnie Wolman 21/11/06
  255.   you said it bradley 23:04  |  paulo 21/11/06
  256.   Gabe1 23:22  |  Steph 21/11/06
  257.   Advice to Paul Harris 23:29  |  Ibrahim 21/11/06
  258.   #254, Ronnie 23:33  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 21/11/06
  259.   #28 Paul Harris - tired puns and ignorance.. 23:38  |  Tony Price 21/11/06
  260.   251. Walid 23:38  |  KUTW 21/11/06
  261.   #193 Colin Wright is right 23:41  |  Johnboy 21/11/06
  262.   #60 My reply to Israel Israeli 2nd try 23:47  |  Johnboy 21/11/06
  263.   254. Ronnie Wolman: Good evening 23:48  |  KUTW 21/11/06
  264.   244. Jacob Blues re Klaudia 23:56  |  KUTW 21/11/06
  265.   BRADLEY BURSTON, WHAT A CLEVER & EFFECTIVE ARTICLE! 00:00  |  Smadar 22/11/06
  266.   No one was picking on you, Kim 00:05  |  Jacob Blues 22/11/06
  267.   #263, KUTW 00:06  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 22/11/06
  268.   Klaudia-all posts 00:08  |  TonyL 22/11/06
  269.   KUTW #263 00:12  |  Steph 22/11/06
  270.   249. Steph 00:12  |  KUTW 22/11/06
  271.   #54 Peter SM 00:13  |  Tony Price 22/11/06
  272.   Christa 00:20  |  schafe82 22/11/06
  273.   more red-herrings from down under 00:23  |  peter 22/11/06
  274.   steph 00:43  |  Gabe1 22/11/06
  275.   Paul Harris and a girl named Peace 00:45  |  Paul 22/11/06
  276.   Klaudia - Spengler 00:45  |  schafe82 22/11/06
  277.   jb #251 01:04  |  Gabe1- 22/11/06
  278.   KUTW 01:17  |  Walid 22/11/06
  279.   Peter #207 01:22  |  Gabe 1. 22/11/06
  280.   Peter #266 01:29  |  Gabe1 22/11/06
  281.   Ten ways to make sure peace is dead 01:29  |  Michael Katz 22/11/06
  282.   # 266 peter What a sad life....... 01:37  |  Swiss (Dino) 22/11/06
  283.   267.Cipora Julianna Kohn 01:39  |  KUTW 22/11/06
  284.   shalom-salaam 01:41  |  gershon82 22/11/06
  285.   KUTW #270 01:48  |  Steph 22/11/06
  286.   Gabe1 01:56  |  Steph 22/11/06
  287.   Well Written Mr Burston. 02:10  |  Owen 22/11/06
  288.   re: Can you say moral relativism? 02:10  |  Robb 22/11/06
  289.   Klaudia Will u marry me? 02:23  |  Avi 22/11/06
  290.   KUTW and THREATS 02:24  |  schafe82 22/11/06
  291.   steph - long threads 02:34  |  schafe82 22/11/06
  292.   Indeed Kim, there are different statements of fact 03:11  |  Jacob Blues 22/11/06
  293.   Gabe #277 03:13  |  Jacob Blues 22/11/06
  294.   schafe82 03:13  |  Steph 22/11/06
  295.   Steph #286 03:22  |  Gabe1 22/11/06
  296.   To all Salaam Members 03:39  |  Gabe1 22/11/06
  297.   Ten Ways to Make Sure Peace is Dead 04:21  |  Rachel 22/11/06
  298.   Impasse 04:46  |  Yoel 22/11/06
  299.   Impasse part II 04:56  |  Yoel 22/11/06
  300.   NOT 6 BUT 58 YEARS ISRAEL HAS TOLERATED MURDERING TERRORISTS ?? 05:03  |  Bill. 22/11/06
  301.   Margie - Keep It Up 05:05  |  Mark of Lewiston 22/11/06
  302.   Leftists in Power? 05:21  |  Rip van Winkle 22/11/06
  303.   Truth 05:30  |  Edward Rothberg 22/11/06
  304.   What`s the matter Gabe 05:35  |  Jacob Blues 22/11/06
  305.   Paternity 05:37  |  Bill 22/11/06
  306.   247Jacob Blues The Majority decided that 2+2=5. 06:02  |  Logician 22/11/06
  307.   16Klaudia "10 Ways to Make Sure the War Keeps Going" is a classic 06:11  |  Logician 22/11/06
  308.   #304, Jacob Blues 06:30  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 22/11/06
  309.   Not much of a war-only 5000 dead in 6 years! 06:30  |  Voice of Reason 22/11/06
  310.   We don`t need now education , many states need not peace 06:45  |  Joseph E . 22/11/06
  311.   Peace is dead , make love than war and repeat 06:58  |  Joseph E . 22/11/06
  312.   Unfortunately Cipora, this is exactly what BB wrote about. 07:03  |  Jacob Blues 22/11/06
  313.   Nothing logical about Klaudia`s truth, logician 07:06  |  Jacob Blues 22/11/06
  314.   313Jacob Blues I challenged you to react to Klaudias points 1-10 07:53  |  Logician 22/11/06
  315.   are we all Gods children? 08:12  |  David 22/11/06
  316.   The best race of all... 08:44  |  David 22/11/06
  317.   Cipora Julianna Kohn/A. Warshaw 08:47  |  Walid 22/11/06
  318.   A lesson from the US civil rights movement 08:56  |  Grant 22/11/06
  319.   Walid - Hamas ceasefire 09:09  |  Sam 22/11/06
  320.   278.Walid 09:24  |  KUTW 22/11/06
  321.   Gabe1 - Keep up the good work 09:27  |  Ziad 22/11/06
  322.   20 years back 09:31  |  CommonSense 22/11/06
  323.   292Jacob Blues 09:36  |  KUTW 22/11/06
  324.   Grant 09:42  |  Walid 22/11/06
  325.   Loss of compassion means the future is war 09:44  |  Armin 22/11/06
  326.   Israel Hungry for war 09:52  |  David King 22/11/06
  327.   Mark of Lewiston 10:20  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 22/11/06
  328.   The 11th way 10:24  |  CommonSense 22/11/06
  329.   KUTW 10:30  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 22/11/06
  330.   Sam 10:30  |  Walid 22/11/06
  331.   Gabe 10:42  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 22/11/06
  332.   Armin 10:42  |  Walid 22/11/06
  333.   KUTW 10:49  |  Jasmine Murphy 22/11/06
  334.   329. Cipora Julianna Kohn 11:16  |  KUTW 22/11/06
  335.   #273 peter does not read widely even in this newspaper 11:32  |  Johnboy 22/11/06
  336.   AMEN 13:51  |  Amen.. 22/11/06
  337.   To Peter S.M 14:33  |  David 22/11/06
  338.   To Bradly 14:48  |  Blinky 22/11/06
  339.   To Khalid #13 14:52  |  Blinky 22/11/06
  340.   PROSPERITY 15:38  |  Mario Fiorito 22/11/06
  341.   Klaudia, The messiah 16:05  |  Yoel 22/11/06
  342.   Walid 16:24  |  ODP 22/11/06
  343.   ODP 17:28  |  Walid 22/11/06
  344.   Walid - Please Read and Help Me Understand 17:51  |  ODP 22/11/06
  345.   Walid - Please Read and Help Me Understand 17:51  |  ODP 22/11/06
  346.   #197:after mutual recognition, all can b discussed:tabacameclose 18:41  |  zak 22/11/06
  347.   ODP 18:46  |  Walid 22/11/06
  348.   Walid 19:18  |  ODP 22/11/06
  349.   So Yoel 19:25  |  Jasmine Murphy 22/11/06
  350.   ODP 19:56  |  Walid 22/11/06
  351.   Walid 20:01  |  ODP 22/11/06
  352.   341Yoel Terrorism is defined, e.g. by US Law. 20:08  |  Logician 22/11/06
  353.   Sorry Logician re Yoel 20:27  |  Jasmine Murphy 22/11/06
  354.   Lost Faith in Peace 20:42  |  Eli 22/11/06
  355.   Re: 10 Ways to Make Sure the War Keeps Going 20:58  |  NY 22/11/06
  356.   #213 Cipora i can assure you 22:09  |  eva 22/11/06
  357.   332 Walid 22:10  |  Armin 22/11/06
  358.   ODP+Walid, NO cockroaches around here. 22:21  |  Armin 22/11/06
  359.   Elohim Adirim Gabe #231 22:24  |  eva 22/11/06
  360.   To Ariel #8 22:37  |  Joel A. Levitt 22/11/06
  361.   Ten other ways ... 23:47  |  Michel 22/11/06
  362.   A large social movement 00:03  |  michel 23/11/06
  363.   Thanks Jasmine 00:12  |  Logician 23/11/06
  364.   355 NY(?)from NC: Practice what you preach. 00:23  |  Logician 23/11/06
  365.   Who are ` We` Bradley ? 02:55  |  Akram Zekaria 23/11/06
  366.   to Israel Israeli 03:55  |  chris 23/11/06
  367.   237# Claudia- The Left are the enemy within us. 04:25  |  Akram Zekaria 23/11/06
  368.   The 11th way to peace 04:50  |  EGW 23/11/06
  369.   #362 05:15  |  Gili 23/11/06
  370.   SPIN 05:33  |  Yoel 23/11/06
  371.   Banned Words re Klaudia: 10 05:59  |  Alex 23/11/06
  372.   Mathematics of propaganda 06:00  |  Yoel 23/11/06
  373.   Excellent Comment 06:19  |  George 23/11/06
  374.   #361 Logician 07:21  |  NY 23/11/06
  375.   Alex, Terrorism 07:31  |  Yoel 23/11/06
  376.   The Spin of the Spineless? 08:07  |  Logician 23/11/06
  377.   Mathematics of propaganda 08:29  |  Logician 23/11/06
  378.   370NY I appreciate your sincerity and Good Luck! 09:00  |  Logician 23/11/06
  379.   Armin 09:25  |  Walid 23/11/06
  380.   Akram Ze 09:26  |  Leftist 23/11/06
  381.   Spin or spineless? 2nd try. 09:35  |  Logician 23/11/06
  382.   i can add no more 12:09  |  viper 23/11/06
  383.   Karl Rove 14:11  |  Yoel 23/11/06
  384.   Walid 17:05  |  Armin 23/11/06
  385.   380#Leftist. And the echo of the Disaster. 20:02  |  Akram Zekaria 23/11/06
  386.   Well said Bradley 20:16  |  Reuben Jacobs 23/11/06
  387.   I agree with Option 7A 23:29  |  Efox 23/11/06
  388.   A question for Klaudia 23:36  |  Eric 23/11/06
  389.   # 24 Antonio Arab-hater. OH ANTONIO MY DEAR BROTHER!! 00:34  |  Kathy 24/11/06
  390.   # Antonio Arab-hater. AN ADDENDUM,SHORT ONE... 01:03  |  Kathy 24/11/06
  391.   # 283 KUTW re:Cipora. AND WEB SITE.CAN YOU AMPLIFY PLEASE... 01:21  |  Kathy 24/11/06
  392.   # 87 Dave Kennaird. DON`T BLAME YOU IN THE SLIGHTEST... 03:13  |  Kathy 24/11/06
  393.   # 385 Akram Zekaria. THE LEFT IS THE BANE OF ISRAEL DEAR MAN ... 03:57  |  Kathy 24/11/06
  394.   # 268 TonnyL. re:THE NOT NICE COMPARISON OF SISTERS: KLAUDIA AND. 04:35  |  Kathy 24/11/06
  395.   Re #10 & #16 Klaudia 06:53  |  Canadian 24/11/06
  396.   bradley 09:23  |  gngargour 24/11/06
  397.   #391, KATHY 10:00  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 24/11/06
  398.   # 397 Cipora Julianna Kohn.re:Kimmi........... 15:53  |  Kathy 24/11/06
  399.   # 397 Cipora J.K AN ADDENDUM........ 16:27  |  Kathy 24/11/06
  400.   # 396 gngargour.re:Bradley. THE ANSWER IS RIGHT. EMIGRATE... 16:59  |  Kathy 24/11/06
  401.   #399, Kathy 23:01  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 24/11/06
  402.   # 146 Jacob Blues. New York City! HMMMM AM A BIT LATE BUT! 02:42  |  Kathy 25/11/06
  403.   393# Kathy 08:32  |  Akram Zekaria 25/11/06
  404.   An American Layman`s Peace Idea 01:20  |  John Kelly 16/12/06
  405.   sad truth 14:34  |  jack 23/03/07
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