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A cease-fire in Gaza (2)
By Haaretz Editorial

Yesterday, we wrote here that "Israel should declare a complete cease-fire in the Gaza Strip for a predetermined period, during which it will not engage in any violent actions, neither assassinations nor incursions. Simultaneously, it should call on the Palestinians to hold their fire as well."

What we feared has come to pass - and for the Palestinians, even worse: At least 19 Palestinians were killed yesterday during a sustained Israel Defense Forces artillery attack on the town of Beit Hanun. Of these, 11 were members of a single family, including women and children.

No excuse can justify this atrocity. When artillery batteries aim their shells near a residential neighborhood, such a disaster is inevitable, even if it is unintentional.

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Anyone who fired shells in the direction of civilian houses knows very well that he is liable to kill indiscriminately with them.

None of Israel's responses to this catastrophe - expressions of regret by the prime minister and defense minister, offers of humanitarian assistance to the wounded, the establishment of an inquiry committee headed by Major General Meir Kalifi, cessation of the shelling and the opening of the Rafah border crossing for a day - can paper over Israel's sole responsibility for this fearsome and senseless killing. Therefore, it is no longer enough to express regret; it is also necessary to draw conclusions.

It has now become conclusively clear that the campaign against the Qassam rocket launchers in Gaza can no longer be entrusted solely to the IDF. The chief of staff, the chief of command, the divisional commander, and the other officers who bear moral and operational responsibility for yesterday's disaster had failed even before this, during Operation Autumn Clouds, which ostensibly ended on Tuesday. That operation sowed only death and destruction, without bringing an end to the Qassam fire. On the contrary, it only increased it.

Yesterday's shelling therefore seems, above all, like an act of revenge by the IDF for the continued Qassam fire.

The prime minister, as the person who bears overall responsibility, must order the IDF to halt the fire on Gaza - immediately, in all cases and with every type of weapon.

If Israel does not want to find itself embroiled soon in a new bloodbath, including suicide bombings in its cities, it must launch a dramatic, unequivocal move, as only such a move might prevent the outbreak of a new intifada. Such a move must begin with a total cease-fire, even a unilateral one, in the context of which Israel will commit itself to total restraint for a predetermined period, even if Qassams continue to fall here and there.

Instead of more and more pointless military operations, which will not lead to anything except to kindling more hatred, we must try a completely different path. Instead of military operations with attractive names, we must immediately embark on a diplomatic operation.

The cannons must be replaced with calls for dialogue, the economic boycott must be replaced with an opening of the taps, and the cruel siege of Gaza must be replaced with a supervised opening of the border crossings.

Only in this way can we perhaps change the dangerous atmosphere that now prevails, and even more so following the bloodbath in Beit Hanun. The responsibility for this rests entirely on the prime minister's shoulders.

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  1.   Reason must supercede emotion. 10:19  |  Robert B. 09/11/06
  2.   There is no excuse, stop firing Kassams 10:21  |  Ariel 09/11/06
  3.   It`s time for a (fair) ultimatum on Israel 10:26  |  Swiss 09/11/06
  4.   Suicidal maniacks of "Haaretz" want an unconditional surrender 10:28  |  Absolute Sweden 09/11/06
  5.   A great editorial BUT 10:28  |  Clickfool 09/11/06
  6.   QASSAMS ON ASHKELON, SAME AS ON TEL AVIV, NY,PARIS,LONDON.... 10:32  |  Ben 09/11/06
  7.   HAARETZ=Plain Talking 10:33  |  David Torres 09/11/06
  8.   Wake Up Israel 10:37  |  David King 09/11/06
  9.   Common Ground 10:38  |  Maral 09/11/06
  10.   The big question is what to do if they continue firing 10:38  |  ash 09/11/06
  11.   excellent editorial 10:44  |  freddy 09/11/06
  12.   I Don`t Know What To Tell You Guys! 10:45  |  Yosemite Sam 09/11/06
  13.   white wash inquiry 10:46  |  Avram 09/11/06
  14.   Cease fire and end of occupation 10:47  |  Petter B 09/11/06
  15.   Take what you want from our blood and leave !!! 10:51  |  Haytham 09/11/06
  16.   Thirsty for blood 10:54  |  Peace? 09/11/06
  17.   Haaretz, incorrect article 10:54  |  Liz Biggin 09/11/06
  18.   Posters on this site 10:59  |  Microraptor 09/11/06
  19.   There`s no excuse! 11:03  |  Ariel 09/11/06
  20.   Jews, you poor lot 11:05  |  sefian 09/11/06
  21.   to #3 - How wrong u are! 11:07  |  El 09/11/06
  22.   Is anyone innocent? 11:08  |  Brendan 09/11/06
  23.   reason must be objective 11:11  |  A.M. 09/11/06
  24.   Part..1-Haaretz Editors:SET UP a "Court for War Crimes".. 11:12  |  Haham me Bat Yam 09/11/06
  25.   Legalizing pogroms in Israel 11:18  |  Yakov 09/11/06
  26.   not true, the gaza surrrender is responsible and Oslo etc 11:20  |  Pablo 09/11/06
  27.   Part 2-Haaretz Editors: SET UP a "Court for War Crimes" for Jews. 11:24  |  Haham me Bat Yam 09/11/06
  28.   Common Ground (2nd try) 11:28  |  Maral 09/11/06
  29.   Why should we be overly sensative? 11:28  |  Avi Yerushalmi 09/11/06
  30.   Editorial piffle 11:29  |  S.Cimitar 09/11/06
  31.   Operation Autumn Clouds 11:33  |  Maureen Ann 09/11/06
  32.   Philistines Play With Matches: Get Burned 11:33  |  Yishai Kohen 09/11/06
  33.   maral and "common ground" 11:39  |  thucydides 09/11/06
  34.   Part 3-Haaretz Editors:Set Up a "Court for War Crimes" for Jews 11:40  |  Haham me Bat Yam 09/11/06
  35.   #4, Clickfool - Churchill on Israel 11:42  |  Robert 09/11/06
  36.   WAR is barbaric always.Hamas excludes peace& keeps repeating it 11:43  |  PETER SM 09/11/06
  37.   Kahane again 11:49  |  Choni 09/11/06
  38.   get their leaders, no other choice for us 11:49  |  felipe 09/11/06
  39.   wow more mistakes...what next, another massacre 11:52  |  Rimon 09/11/06
  40.   Who needs excuses? 12:01  |  Beni 09/11/06
  41.   To ClickFOOL, count Dracula of Lewes 12:04  |  Jonathan S 09/11/06
  42.   Part 5-Haaretz :Your editorial: RUN of the "JEW" (Ref. Borlat) 12:07  |  Haham me Bat Yam 09/11/06
  43.   Draw Your Conclusions Go live in Gaza 12:12  |  Joseph E . 09/11/06
  44.   What rockets you are talking about ???? 12:12  |  Joseph 09/11/06
  45.   All the palestinians have to do is start state building 12:16  |  British academic 09/11/06
  46.   Qassams - a brave editorial 12:17  |  Tony Price 09/11/06
  47.   Maral, I actually feel very good with your post. Indeed, we are 12:17  |  Nadav 09/11/06
  48.   Microraptor 12:19  |  Dave Kennaird 09/11/06
  49.   IT IS NAKED TRUTH 12:19  |  Marco 09/11/06
  50.   only a shallow satisfaction 12:21  |  Cornelia 09/11/06
  51.   Haaretz is very clever at giving easy advice 12:30  |  Judith 09/11/06
  52.   The Occupation itself is an act of violence 12:31  |  Michael 09/11/06
  53.   Pablo`s "history." 12:35  |  Wiktor 09/11/06
  54.   Gaza 12:38  |  Victor 09/11/06
  55.   For Jonathan S, from Count Dracula again# 34 12:43  |  Clickfool 09/11/06
  56.   # 31-Maureen Ann- Hey we Agree ! 12:46  |  Klaudia 09/11/06
  57.   israeli mythology 12:49  |  freddy 09/11/06
  58.   Here`s the bottom line people 12:49  |  Ken Jurist 09/11/06
  59.   Haaretz gets it wrong 12:51  |  Ann Coulter 09/11/06
  60.   Yes Yes Yes Yes 12:53  |  Johnboy 09/11/06
  61.   Maureen Ann 12:56  |  Dave Kennaird 09/11/06
  62.   #2 NO Ariel. YOU ARE WRONG 12:57  |  Johnboy 09/11/06
  63.   Mr. Kohen and the Philitines! #32 13:02  |  Wiktor 09/11/06
  64.   If the Palestinians don`t want attacks to continue 13:09  |  Nechama 09/11/06
  65.   British "academic." # 37 13:10  |  Wiktor 09/11/06
  66.   Dear Maral 13:11  |  Nechama 09/11/06
  67.   NO EXCUSE FOR HAMAS ARMING VIA EYGPT FOR FUTURE ATTROCITIES ? 13:15  |  Bill. 09/11/06
  68.   #37 And how *do* they "start state building"? 13:16  |  Johnboy 09/11/06
  69.   gaza 13:20  |  HC 09/11/06
  70.   A very lucid and telling article 13:30  |  Chris Linthwaite 09/11/06
  71.   Israel is a terrorist state 13:34  |  Stephen Murray 09/11/06
  72.   You Need to To Have Your heads Examined 13:35  |  Dr David I Gross 09/11/06
  73.   RE 32: Ethnic Cleansing 13:38  |  Tupac 09/11/06
  74.   Response to Bet Hanun 13:39  |  Hersh 09/11/06
  75.   respect 13:41  |  nana 09/11/06
  76.   #37 spare us armchair arrogance 13:48  |  will 09/11/06
  77.   to swiss 14:09  |  shalomaleikum 09/11/06
  78.   to Swedish no.4 14:11  |  Shalomaleikum 09/11/06
  79.   This is a war - casualties are expected to happen 14:16  |  Brurirah Sarah 09/11/06
  80.   Wow! 14:21  |  Gee 09/11/06
  81.   Liz Biggin 14:23  |  Dani Reiss 09/11/06
  82.   Stemming from A Knowledge That They Are Loosing 14:25  |  Yaakov Sullivan 09/11/06
  83.   40: Settlements are Legal 14:27  |  Bruriah Sarah 09/11/06
  84.   38: And what about arabs killing Jews? 14:31  |  Bruriah Sarah 09/11/06
  85.   No, Robert B of LA, there is no rejoicing 14:34  |  Yaakov Sullivan 09/11/06
  86.   Tupac: Jews Living In YOUR Neighborhood May Be "Illegal" 14:38  |  Yishai Kohen 09/11/06
  87.   Gaza 14:39  |  Chaim Gorenstein 09/11/06
  88.   David King, that is precisely why Israel is doing this #8 14:40  |  Yaakov Sullivan 09/11/06
  89.   # 31- Operation Autumn Clouds ...You Must Mean OPERATION SNOW JOB 14:40  |  Klaudia 09/11/06
  90.   For Bruriah Sarah and her usual propaganda # 46 14:44  |  Clickfool 09/11/06
  91.   Haaretz 14:44  |  Gabe1 09/11/06
  92.   TRAGEDY NOT ATTROCITY 14:46  |  B 09/11/06
  93.   Avi Yerushalmi still perpetrating the myths #29 14:47  |  Yaakov Sullivan 09/11/06
  94.   NO MORE WORDS - STOP KILLINGS IN GAZA NOW 14:51  |  George 09/11/06
  95.   Maral, I fully agree with you that we must find common grounds in 15:03  |  Nadav 09/11/06
  96.   both sides must refrain from any further atrocities 15:04  |  ricbenitez 09/11/06
  97.   Olmert - stop the shelling and start TALKING to the Palestinians 15:10  |  Bruno 09/11/06
  98.   Bruriah Sarah, thank you for clarifying aspects of this dispute 15:11  |  Nadav 09/11/06
  99.   Yitzhak and Yasser: a lesson 15:15  |  Melissa 09/11/06
  100.   Reason must supercede emotion? 15:19  |  David 09/11/06
  101.   Tupac #40 15:21  |  Gee 09/11/06
  102.   Thank you but it`s already late! 15:21  |  Human Being 09/11/06
  103.   Fortunately and unfortunately 15:22  |  Avrum 09/11/06
  104.   Sorry for loss of innocent lives 15:24  |  Kapule David Mabuta 09/11/06
  105.   # 31- Maureen Ann ( 2nd try) What God are You Talking About ? 15:25  |  Klaudia 09/11/06
  106.   Proof that number 3 is an anti semite. Swiss shame on you. 15:31  |  Steven 09/11/06
  107.   To No:29 15:32  |  Lebanese 09/11/06
  108.   The Excuse 15:32  |  Ron 09/11/06
  109.   # 38 Stephen Murray @ Amsterdam 15:38  |  Joseph E . 09/11/06
  110.   We Can Only Control Our Own Actions 15:40  |  Jane 09/11/06
  111.   No excuse? 15:42  |  Bob 09/11/06
  112.   a cease fire in Gaza 15:43  |  treetop 09/11/06
  113.   Sefian - NZ 15:45  |  Bob 09/11/06
  114.   Ever hear of Sri Lanka? And what about Darfur? 15:49  |  Shlomo 09/11/06
  115.   Stephen Murray - Terrorist state? 15:50  |  Bob 09/11/06
  116.   Out trot the madmen 1, 2, 3 15:54  |  Marilyn 09/11/06
  117.   #38 Stephen Murray 15:54  |  Liz Biggin 09/11/06
  118.   Is the goal...... 15:58  |  Richie 09/11/06
  119.   How long do we wait for Palestinians to hold their fire? 15:58  |  Nick 09/11/06
  120.   when doves cry 15:59  |  aryeh 09/11/06
  121.   Nadav, the dialogue continues... 16:00  |  Maral 09/11/06
  122.   Nadav, the dialogue continues... 16:00  |  Maral 09/11/06
  123.   swiss ex dino 16:02  |  thucydides 09/11/06
  124.   #47 Why colonial enterprise? 16:02  |  Av i Yerushalmi 09/11/06
  125.   No excuse... 16:04  |  L. Gomberoff 09/11/06
  126.   It Is The Price of The Left For Deceptive Oslo Accords For Peace 16:07  |  Joseph E . 09/11/06
  127.   International troups in Gaza 16:08  |  Dr D 09/11/06
  128.   Wow! 16:12  |  Gee 09/11/06
  129.   63/Bob 16:13  |  Anne 09/11/06
  130.   Enough of this "Messianic" killing 16:15  |  Dave 09/11/06
  131.   Of course it can!! 16:16  |  Yoseph 09/11/06
  132.   Maral on Common Ground Part 1 16:16  |  Gabe1 09/11/06
  133.   to jane 16:16  |  rose 09/11/06
  134.   Haaretz anti-Zionists put forth suicide plan 16:17  |  leonie 09/11/06
  135.   #60: Joseph: I repeat - Israel is a terrorist state 16:19  |  Stephen Murray 09/11/06
  136.   Gaza cease fire Beit Hanoun 16:20  |  Larry 09/11/06
  137.   Revenge or peace? 16:20  |  ScotGuy 09/11/06
  138.   Gaza 16:21  |  Daniel Bentley 09/11/06
  139.   It`s Scary reading Some of These Deluded Comments 16:21  |  kinvara 09/11/06
  140.   Legitimizing pogroms in Israel 16:23  |  Yacov 09/11/06
  141.   #47 - Sullivan ALWAYS is negative 16:24  |  * BEN JABO 09/11/06
  142.   A parable 16:25  |  Ariel 09/11/06
  143.   Smug self righteousness from Hersh #41 16:27  |  Yaakov Sullivan 09/11/06
  144.   Maral-Common Ground-Part 2 16:31  |  Gabe1 09/11/06
  145.   Israel Is Totally And Completely Responsible For Her Actions. 16:31  |  Timothy 09/11/06
  146.   Shelling of Palestinians village 16:32  |  Jean C. Trudel 09/11/06
  147.   Kassam`s on Tel Aviv? 16:39  |  Baruch 09/11/06
  148.   Gabe 1, why is it so difficult for you to simply make your point, 16:42  |  Nadav 09/11/06
  149.   Maral -Common Ground-part 3 16:42  |  gabe1 09/11/06
  150.   Time for diplomacy 16:47  |  Tosefta 09/11/06
  151.   Israeli options in Gaza 16:49  |  Tosefta 09/11/06
  152.   You so low- minded Stephen 16:50  |  Stranger 09/11/06
  153.   To kinvara 16:51  |  Yoseph 09/11/06
  154.   The Reality is We Are at War. 16:52  |  Terry 09/11/06
  155.   Haaretz-58 years of fighting because of a misunderstanding? 16:52  |  Unv. teacher 09/11/06
  156.   It would be a mistake 16:59  |  KUTW 09/11/06
  157.   NO EXCUSES, NO REGRETS.... ALL LIES: THEY WILL KEEP KILLING 17:02  |  Messaoud 09/11/06
  158.   Harmless Qassams 17:03  |  Herbert Kaine 09/11/06
  159.   For us and for the pals 17:04  |  KUTW 09/11/06
  160.   No pogroms in Israel 17:07  |  Nathan 09/11/06
  161.   No excuse can justify Haaretz editorial attrocities against the 17:08  |  Sal 09/11/06
  162.   Beit Hanun 17:09  |  Mirabel 09/11/06
  163.   19 Civilians Dead and Ben Jabbo googles #90 17:09  |  Yaakov Sullivan 09/11/06
  164.   news maker 17:10  |  H 09/11/06
  165.   Haaretz-The Hass Option 17:10  |  Gabe1 09/11/06
  166.   Qassams launched from and at residential areas 17:11  |  KUTW 09/11/06
  167.   To Rober B. #1 17:11  |  Blinky 09/11/06
  168.   Israel radio calling it `the tragedy`: no rejoicing here 17:11  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 09/11/06
  169.   shelling is No excuse 17:14  |  Moral 09/11/06
  170.   Timothy the hypocrite 17:14  |  Gusta 09/11/06
  171.   It`s time for a (fair) ultimatum on Israel 17:14  |  swiss too 09/11/06
  172.   Disputed or occupied 17:16  |  Petter 09/11/06
  173.   GREAT EDITORIAL 17:18  |  NEUTERED OBSERVER 09/11/06
  174.   A dhimmi editorial 17:22  |  Bimmer 09/11/06
  175.   ricbenitez # 51 How Do You Do That? 17:23  |  Jeff Northridge 09/11/06
  176.   There is no peace for Israel 17:23  |  Michael 09/11/06
  177.   Firing from civilian houses 17:32  |  KUTW 09/11/06
  178.   #121 Moral - No Escuse 17:33  |  * BEN JABO 09/11/06
  179.   # 123 swiss too Maybe it`s time for you to come..... 17:35  |  Swiss 09/11/06
  180.   # 60 Stephen Murray 17:40  |  Nick Ferriman 09/11/06
  181.   Number of deadly Qassam-victims 17:47  |  JP 09/11/06
  182.   BEIT HAROUN 17:48  |  BERNARD LAPIDUS 09/11/06
  183.   #132 Bimmer, You`re Misconstruing Situation - What Dhimmi? 17:50  |  Smadar 09/11/06
  184.   Does this shelling accomplish any goals? 17:51  |  M 09/11/06
  185.   nick ferriman,I agree IDFworse than HEZZ 17:55  |  John 09/11/06
  186.   A Cease Fire in Gaza 18:00  |  Kenneth N. Margolin 09/11/06
  187.   Anne # 78 18:01  |  Jeff Northridge 09/11/06
  188.   A Lebo-style attack is needed 18:11  |  JASON 09/11/06
  189.   To Yoseph 18:11  |  Kinvara 09/11/06
  190.   IDF needs much more discipline, & much more conscious leadership. 18:14  |  Howard 09/11/06
  191.   Irresponsible editorial 18:16  |  Nathaniel 09/11/06
  192.   Yes, there is one. 18:19  |  Domingo 09/11/06
  193.   Swiss #3 18:22  |  Polybios 09/11/06
  194.   ethics and morality at the bbc 18:27  |  thucydides 09/11/06
  195.   Haaretz: You calling for a halt to the Qassam attacks too? 18:28  |  Yaakov K. 09/11/06
  196.   Long over due. 18:30  |  Ernie 09/11/06
  197.   to #183 Smadar: Half Truths Don`t Tell the Story 18:36  |  Bimmer 09/11/06
  198.   Beit Hanoun 18:43  |  alan kruger 09/11/06
  199.   # 144 Timothy; You are absolutely correct.. 18:48  |  Haham me Bat Yam 09/11/06
  200.   Tosefta # 151 Option 4 18:48  |  Jeff Northridge 09/11/06
  201.   Gabe 18:54  |  KUTW 09/11/06
  202.   To Kinvara 18:55  |  Yoseph 09/11/06
  203.   NEEDED: Decl. of Ind. Pal. STATE 18:56  |  Alicia 09/11/06
  204.   Good article. 19:00  |  cfs 09/11/06
  205.   how the world is hating israel 19:01  |  alberto 09/11/06
  206.   Do any israelis feel outraged by this aggression? 19:02  |  BouSameer 09/11/06
  207.   # 193 Polybios If more reasonable people like you.... 19:02  |  Swiss 09/11/06
  208.   Clickfool 19:04  |  Daniel Bentley 09/11/06
  209.   Gaza actrocities 19:06  |  Leo van Wissen 09/11/06
  210.   Microraptor-"posters on this site" 19:11  |  Daniel 09/11/06
  211.   Old option again (Jeff Northridge 200) 19:13  |  Tosefta 09/11/06
  212.   foundation of this support for Israel is collapsing 19:18  |  Richard Ledes 09/11/06
  213.   Messaoud # 157 It Works Both Ways 19:19  |  Jeff Northridge 09/11/06
  214.   A-cease-fire in Gaza 19:20  |  rakfo 09/11/06
  215.   UNSC ... 19:25  |  Ernie 09/11/06
  216.   ISRAEL DESERVES THE WRATH OF THE WORLD FOR ITS ATROCITIES 19:30  |  Dutch 09/11/06
  217.   Ann Coulter - TERRORIST RECRUITER 19:30  |  Mark of Lewiston 09/11/06
  218.   Swiss #207. First steps 19:33  |  Polybios 09/11/06
  219.   Benny hill Gurion-Masquarading as Tosefta 19:37  |  GS1 09/11/06
  220.   205.alberto 19:41  |  fairy Lola 09/11/06
  221.   Tosefta # 211 They Aren`t Quite the Same 19:42  |  Jeff Northridge 09/11/06
  222.   KUTW 19:43  |  GS1 09/11/06
  223.   To Europeans 19:43  |  Amir 09/11/06
  224.   Oh common 19:43  |  Devin 09/11/06
  225.   #40 The ICJ `s Ruling on the settlements 19:44  |  Dutch 09/11/06
  226.   no excuse? response 19:45  |  nk 09/11/06
  227.   Needed Declaration Of Independence By Pals... 19:46  |  Yosemite Sam 09/11/06
  228.   Open all borders and let the murderers come in 19:48  |  Punta di Lancia 09/11/06
  229.   1000000........QASSAM ROCKETS. HOW MANY ISRAELIS KILLED ??? 19:49  |  THE JACKAL 09/11/06
  230.   # 84 Sarah, The law is the law 19:49  |  Dutch 09/11/06
  231.   re #216 19:53  |  Devin 09/11/06
  232.   219 GS1=Gabe1, the pissing mouth 19:56  |  Tosefta 09/11/06
  233.   Nadav #148 20:03  |  GS1` 09/11/06
  234.   Can you Do Better - Then Get Out of the Bubble ! 20:04  |  Tod Zuckerman 09/11/06
  235.   4=1 (mod 3); Jeff Northridge 221 20:04  |  Tosefta 09/11/06
  236.   # 218 Polybios Arab theocracys 20:07  |  Swiss 09/11/06
  237.   Israel shouldn`t apologise at all ... 20:09  |  Diana 09/11/06
  238.   THE JACKAL 20:09  |  Ernie 09/11/06
  239.   Cease fire won`t happen 20:24  |  Roi is back 09/11/06
  240.   Mark of Lewiston, YOU have no shame 20:26  |  Jake 09/11/06
  241.   #229 Jackal, What Foolish People 20:26  |  Dutch 09/11/06
  242.   Benny Hill Gurion #232 20:30  |  GS1 09/11/06
  243.   #197 Bimmer, the Dhimmi today are the Palestinians 20:32  |  Smadar 09/11/06
  244.   JASON # 188 I Don`t Think That That Is Possible 20:33  |  Jeff Northridge 09/11/06
  245.   Israel and the Palestinians 20:33  |  Jon 09/11/06
  246.   Enough breastbeating already... 20:34  |  bat yam 09/11/06
  247.   #205 Alberto,That`s your illusion, I don`t care at all... 20:36  |  Alice 09/11/06
  248.   The Rumsfeld Syndrome 20:37  |  George Goldman 09/11/06
  249.   #3 You are right my friend if you talk with normal regieme 20:41  |  Dave 09/11/06
  250.   swiss dino "my posts are quite biting" 20:43  |  thucydides 09/11/06
  251.   Editorial Crap 20:45  |  Gabe1 09/11/06
  252.   swiss "a strong critic of israel`s policies" 20:45  |  thucydides 09/11/06
  253.   Qassams brain dead 20:47  |  Gabe1 09/11/06
  254.   #236. Swiss 20:47  |  Polybios 09/11/06
  255.   HIT HARD 20:49  |  GS1 09/11/06
  256.   Amir, this is not the Allies vs. Axis 20:49  |  BouSameer 09/11/06
  257.   Gabe 1, of all people I would certainly expect Canadians to be 20:50  |  Nadav 09/11/06
  258.   Let`s withdraw 20:51  |  Issac 09/11/06
  259.   swiss " i cannot speak for the swiss population" 20:53  |  thucydides 09/11/06
  260.   beit hanoun 20:54  |  andrew travers 09/11/06
  261.   98: Nadav 20:54  |  Bruriah Sarah 09/11/06
  262.   #239 Ceasefire that never was 20:55  |  * BEN JABO 09/11/06
  263.   swiss dino and "swiss public opinion has changed" 20:55  |  thucydides 09/11/06
  264.   Diana: Moral Values 20:56  |  Jamal 09/11/06
  265.   To # 180 and # 185 20:56  |  christa 09/11/06
  266.   Ben -No 6 20:58  |  Lebanese admirer 09/11/06
  267.   swiss dino "gaza is an open air prison" 20:59  |  thucydides 09/11/06
  268.   230:The law 20:59  |  Bruruiah Sarah 09/11/06
  269.   Delusional Fools 21:01  |  Max 09/11/06
  270.   RE # 1 Robert B. (The joy heals our pain when missiles hit Israel 21:02  |  Human Rights 09/11/06
  271.   swiss dino writes to the baghdad times 21:02  |  thucydides 09/11/06
  272.   No 32 - no mention of the occupation..... 21:03  |  Lebanese admirer 09/11/06
  273.   203: The problem 21:03  |  Bruriah Sarah 09/11/06
  274.   swiss dino writes to the kabul telegraph 21:04  |  thucydides 09/11/06
  275.   swiss dino writes to the times of sri lanka 21:06  |  thucydides 09/11/06
  276.   Smadar #241 21:06  |  Gabe1 09/11/06
  277.   Dutch # 225 The ICJ 21:07  |  Jeff Northridge 09/11/06
  278.   British nerd - No 45 21:08  |  Lebanese admirer 09/11/06
  279.   Israel will have war 21:09  |  sicko 09/11/06
  280.   #49 Marco 21:09  |  Boycott 09/11/06
  281.   swiss dino is concerned that brazilian 21:09  |  thucydides 09/11/06
  282.   Yosi Sarid Editorial and the Gaza situation 21:11  |  Linda 09/11/06
  283.   No Wonder Everyone Hates Israel 21:11  |  John 09/11/06
  284.   Nadav #257 21:17  |  Gabe1 09/11/06
  285.   re # 10 ash from gush etzion. (Leave first & then ask) 21:17  |  Human Rights 09/11/06
  286.   swiss dino writes to the editor of the somali 21:19  |  thucydides 09/11/06
  287.   swiss dino writes to the editor of the somali 21:19  |  thucydides 09/11/06
  288.   #79 Bruriah Sarah 21:20  |  Boycott 09/11/06
  289.   swiss dino have you ever thought of emigrating to saudi arabia? 21:22  |  thucydides 09/11/06
  290.   Bruriah Sarah #273 21:23  |  Gabe1 09/11/06
  291.   Keep on killing the Palestinians, you barbarians 21:28  |  ballistic 09/11/06
  292.   # 271 / 275 / 281 thucydides Well, my friend.... 21:29  |  Swiss 09/11/06
  293.   swiss dino your country are bankers to the 21:30  |  thucydides 09/11/06
  294.   288: Qana 21:30  |  Bruriah Sarah 09/11/06
  295.   this is war 21:32  |  Leon 09/11/06
  296.   Smadar #241-Stop Your LIES 21:33  |  Gabe1 09/11/06
  297.   swiss dino you could write to the editor of the dharfur standard 21:34  |  thucydides 09/11/06
  298.   #276 Gabe1- AFTER ISRAEL`S 1948 EST. REFUSED CITIZENSHIPS? 21:37  |  Smadar 09/11/06
  299.   Boycott #288 21:41  |  Gabe1 09/11/06
  300.   RE # 168 Margie in Tel Aviv (It is not anymore tragedy for you) 21:42  |  Human Rights 09/11/06
  301.   290: Response 21:48  |  Bruriah Sarah 09/11/06
  302.   52 - Occupation? 21:51  |  Bruriah Sarah 09/11/06
  303.   #272. Lebanese Admirer 21:52  |  Polybios 09/11/06
  304.   240 Jake - I Need None 21:54  |  Mark of Lewiston 09/11/06
  305.   to Jamal: 21:54  |  Diana 09/11/06
  306.   Tosefta # 235 Consequences 21:57  |  Jeff Northridge 09/11/06
  307.   JOHNBOY "start building how"?Stop openly rejecting peace! 21:58  |  PETER SM 09/11/06
  308.   to #243 Smadar OK, let`s start with 1948 21:59  |  Bimmer 09/11/06
  309.   JACKAL Each Qassem is an attempt at multiple murder 22:02  |  PETER SM 09/11/06
  310.   Haaretz,you have it wrong. It is not an atrocity, but a tragedy. 22:06  |  another physicist 09/11/06
  311.   the incompetency of IDF 22:06  |  Giok 09/11/06
  312.   a cease fire in gaza 22:07  |  marty 09/11/06
  313.   Smadar #298 22:08  |  Gabe1 09/11/06
  314.   300: Fed up 22:08  |  Bruriah Sarah 09/11/06
  315.   RE#295Leon from Philadelphia (Who is the occupier...) 22:09  |  Human Rights 09/11/06
  316.   #277 Jeff , THE LAW IS THE LAW 22:14  |  Dutch 09/11/06
  317.   IDF Efforts Nearing Desired Goal 22:26  |  Victor 09/11/06
  318.   #151 Tosefta and the three options 22:27  |  Johnboy 09/11/06
  319.   Smadar 22:30  |  ODP 09/11/06
  320.   #244 Jeff looks forward without looking back 22:31  |  Johnboy 09/11/06
  321.   NO EXCUSE CAN JUSTIFY NOT STOPPING THE FIRING OF KASSAMS 22:34  |  Jorge 09/11/06
  322.   Will Still Emphasize on PEACE! 22:34  |  Sharif Hafez 09/11/06
  323.   Human Rights # 285 Where Is the "Whole Part"? 22:34  |  Jeff Northridge 09/11/06
  324.   To Defeat the Evil Doers 22:35  |  Steve 09/11/06
  325.   GAbe1 #284 22:36  |  ballistic 09/11/06
  326.   Palest. terrorists make bloodbath in Hanun 22:44  |  Sam 09/11/06
  327.   No excuse for the folly of Oslo and Katif 22:46  |  Asimon Nofelli 09/11/06
  328.   Smadar, what a naieve post 22:56  |  Jake 09/11/06
  329.   KLAUDIA all in natures good time, dear 22:56  |  Maureen Ann 09/11/06
  330.   #300 , The world is fed up with Israel too 22:59  |  Dutch 09/11/06
  331.   A Solution 22:59  |  Norm 09/11/06
  332.   RE, Smadar: "I`m not a very good liar" 22:59  |  Jake 09/11/06
  333.   To #3 23:01  |  DOVERFOX 09/11/06
  334.   MORE SRI LANKA`S WHERE KILLED YESTERDAY THAN ARABS. 23:04  |  SWISS 09/11/06
  335.   Responsibility for These Deaths Are With the Arabs 23:04  |  Rick Geiger 09/11/06
  336.   ballistic #309 23:11  |  Gabe1 09/11/06
  337.   I agree with this editorial, mostly 23:13  |  Third World Jew 09/11/06
  338.   Smadar, you will never achieve peace by being a lackey 23:14  |  Jake 09/11/06
  339.   Ash #10 - Sorry editorial. This is a better idea. 23:17  |  Third World Jew 09/11/06
  340.   life diminished by Israel 23:21  |  david 09/11/06
  341.   #266Lebanese-EASIER TO JUSTIFY ISRAEL`S RESPONSE THAN QASSAM, YET 23:21  |  Ben 09/11/06
  342.   The 3 options in Gaza (Johnboy no. 302) 23:22  |  Tosefta 09/11/06
  343.   Why we apologize, and the Pals do not 23:22  |  FOX 09/11/06
  344.   Smadar #298 23:30  |  Gabe1 09/11/06
  345.   RE: Yishai Kohen: Gaza Its Not Your Land Today 23:34  |  Tupac 09/11/06
  346.   I AGREE WITH YOU # 310 SWISS 23:42  |  JONE SMITH 09/11/06
  347.   #303 ODP, YES BAGHDAD HAD AS MANY JEWS AS NOW IN TORONTO 23:44  |  Smadar 09/11/06
  348.   RE 101 to Gee: They Are Illegal 23:45  |  Tupac 09/11/06
  349.   310:SWISS, No need to go SRI LANKA, just look at IRAQ`s... 23:50  |  bat yam 09/11/06
  350.   #314 YOU ARE RIGHT WHY DOES EU CARE ONLY ABOUT ARAB CIVILIANS 23:57  |  TIME TO FIND OUT 09/11/06
  351.   320 - Why blame others? 23:57  |  Bruriah Sarah 09/11/06
  352.   David, thanks for the advice 23:57  |  Jake 09/11/06
  353.   Fed Up with Dutch Doris 00:02  |  * BEN JABO 10/11/06
  354.   Who`s going to stop the Arab Genocide in Sudan and Chad? 00:03  |  Jake 10/11/06
  355.   320.david: Which excuses? 00:04  |  KUTW 10/11/06
  356.   313. Norm: A Solution 00:09  |  KUTW 10/11/06
  357.   To KUTW: No You Fool There`s More Options 00:10  |  Tupac 10/11/06
  358.   291 ballistic: the Pals celebrate the event 00:11  |  KUTW 10/11/06
  359.   279. sicko: Israel has always have war 00:14  |  KUTW 10/11/06
  360.   203: The Problem 00:17  |  rafael 10/11/06
  361.   Smadar how do you think 1 million Jews escaped the Arab world? 00:26  |  Vespucci 10/11/06
  362.   Finally a jew has a gun and a country 00:31  |  JASON 10/11/06
  363.   Uncivilised Klaudia #105 00:32  |  Guess who 10/11/06
  364.   RE 310 to Jake: Arabs as the worst persecutors of Jews in history 00:34  |  Tupac 10/11/06
  365.   Evil does not last 00:45  |  USA 10/11/06
  366.   Cease Fire 00:48  |  DAVID KAPLAN 10/11/06
  367.   Don`t hide among civilians they don`t want to die! 00:54  |  Infidel 10/11/06
  368.   Johnboy # 244 Not Exactly 00:55  |  Jeff Northridge 10/11/06
  369.   #306 - Sharif Hafez 00:55  |  Third World Jew 10/11/06
  370.   #323-Pals want war 01:03  |  ballistic 10/11/06
  371.   jackal...how many israelis killed?????? 01:04  |  maria 10/11/06
  372.   45 SRI LANKA CIVILIANS KILLED ON 11/8/06 BY TANK FIRE!!! 01:05  |  SWISS 10/11/06
  373.   How abaout 100 years of Arab terror .... 01:07  |  Jimmy 10/11/06
  374.   IDF/IAF are Masters of Terrorism 01:10  |  Erik 10/11/06
  375.   #124; I want America back 01:10  |  Ballistic 10/11/06
  376.   to Smadar - Part I I responded but Haaretz didn`t load it 01:34  |  Bimmer 10/11/06
  377.   to Smadar Part II 01:36  |  Bimmer 10/11/06
  378.   #200 Jeff makes a mistake in the first sentence 01:37  |  Johnboy 10/11/06
  379.   To Smadar Part III 01:38  |  Bimmer 10/11/06
  380.   321. Tupac: No more options 01:41  |  KUTW 10/11/06
  381.   # 314 SWISS, YOU ARE RIGHT AND IT IS TRUE 01:51  |  TOM 10/11/06
  382.   Show me a "clean" war 01:55  |  Roman 10/11/06
  383.   Funny, but this forum is a replication of global politics 02:02  |  Third World Jew 10/11/06
  384.   334: Evidence 02:04  |  Brurirah Sarah 10/11/06
  385.   Evidence - oops that was for 336 02:04  |  Bruriah Sarah 10/11/06
  386.   Excuses, what excuses 02:08  |  Michael N 10/11/06
  387.   240 Jake - No Reason For It. 02:09  |  Mark of Lewiston 10/11/06
  388.   #310 Jake, Middle Eastern upheavals have not been good for anyone 02:14  |  Smadar 10/11/06
  389.   158 Kassam Capability 02:19  |  Bruriah Sarah 10/11/06
  390.   Nadav response 02:22  |  Bruriah Sarah 10/11/06
  391.   Haaretz Editors 02:23  |  Richthofen 10/11/06
  392.   now we know what it feels like, maybe we should accept Israel! 02:27  |  Engineer Imhan 10/11/06
  393.   Israel - a US liability in the region 02:27  |  david 10/11/06
  394.   Cease fire in Gaza 02:28  |  Michael Katz 10/11/06
  395.   Rockets from Gaza 02:35  |  Gilbert Simon MD 10/11/06
  396.   # 8 David King. I THINK IT IS YOU WHO SHOULD WAKE UP TO REALITY.. 02:48  |  Kathy 10/11/06
  397.   The 3 options in Gaza (Johnboy no. 302); 2nd try 02:59  |  Tosefta 10/11/06
  398.   # 12 Yosemite sam. STOP BEING SO PESIMISTIC... 03:01  |  Kathy 10/11/06
  399.   Ceasefire`s been working since beginning of year - NOT 03:03  |  sheri 10/11/06
  400.   #329 Oh, yes, Jeff. EXACTLY. 03:18  |  Johnboy 10/11/06
  401.   #323 KUTW stands on his head. 03:23  |  Johnboy 10/11/06
  402.   David, Israel defending itself from Gaza is not foreign policy 03:26  |  Jake 10/11/06
  403.   #277 Jeff is completely wrong. 03:31  |  Johnboy 10/11/06
  404.   #112 Treetop - Is this why they do it? 03:32  |  sheri 10/11/06
  405.   # 126 JosephE. LATEST NEWS FOR EVERYONE JOSEPH E.. 03:38  |  Kathy 10/11/06
  406.   self-destruction 03:44  |  Shimi 10/11/06
  407.   128 Gee - do you have any of those studies? 04:05  |  sheri 10/11/06
  408.   Jeff, RE The Law is the Law 04:12  |  Dutch 10/11/06
  409.   #139 Kinvara - is it really delusion? 04:16  |  sheri 10/11/06
  410.   Maral #9 04:33  |  Harry D 10/11/06
  411.   ballistic # 331 Exactly What Has Been Taken? 04:42  |  Jeff Northridge 10/11/06
  412.   Michael Katz # 343 Obscene? 04:54  |  Jeff Northridge 10/11/06