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Peace Never
By Bradley Burston

A little over 40 years ago, in another one-issue corner of the world, in another place that was too stiflingly hot, too historically traumatized, too politically paralytic to comfortably support human life, it was the question of racial segregation that occupied every cell of the resident subconscious.

So overwhelming was the issue, that protest signs and lapel buttons for opposing sides needed bear no more than a single word. For civil rights activists, Now was more than enough. For segregationists, it was Never.

If the past week is any indication, we here in the Holy Land can now make do with even less. At this point, a little under 40 years since the war many believed would be the Mideast conflict to end all Mideast conflicts, Never appears to be the only button left.

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Unlike its well-established dovish counterpart, the Peace Never movement does not have mailing lists, officers and offices, a familiar logo, researchers, a website.

Nonetheless, Peace Never can boast wide support on both sides of the Israeli-Palestinian divide.

Given the bleak diplomatic and security landscape, it is safe to say, and easy to comprehend, that sizable numbers of onetime believers in peace, among them adherents to Peace Now, have tacitly decamped to Peace Never.

For many, the allegiance to Peace Never is nothing new. For some, Jew and Arab alike, secular intellectuals, religious fundamentalists, white collar or blue, Diaspora or domestic, the ideology of Peace Never is a congenital given: There can never be peace between Jews and Arabs in historical Palestine, and thus there never will be.

For others, among them, politicians, settlement activists and real estate developers, Peace Never serves an additional, functional role. For them, Peace Never means no conceivable need for future concessions. Peace Never assures that life can go on as it is, forever.

In a wider sense, there has always been something about Peace Never that appeals to Israelis and Palestinians both. Something about Peace Never makes many on both sides feel righteous, empowered, it gives them a stronger sense of self, of belonging, of historic mission, of place. It is not only the primordial pleasure inherent in the understanding that Real Men Never Make Peace. After all, women are very well represented among the fanatics on both sides.

The appeal also comes from this firm belief: If our side says Never long enough, the other side will eventually cave, and our side will be the winner who takes all.

On the Palestinian side, the primary exponent of the Peace Never movement is currently Ismail Haniyeh. In a speech that saw him faint from the combined effects of a Ramadan fast and the Gaza City heat, Haniyeh felt it so crucial to stress that Hamas would not recognize Israel, that he said it three times in succession.

On the Israeli side, the sudden leader of Peace Never is none other than the Chameleon of Cremieux Street. It was only two months ago that Ehud Olmert predicted that Israel would leverage a victory in the Lebanon war into a further withdrawal from the West Bank. By this week, his transformation was such that the prime minister was talking partnership with Avigdor Lieberman, perhaps the standout segregationist of the Israeli far-right.

Does the popularity of Peace Never mean that there will never be peace? Ironically, no. Just listen to Hamas' purported chief rejectionist, Khaled Meshal, quoted this week as saying he could live with a Palestine along the pre-1967 war borders. Lieberman, also, has been expansive in drawing possible lines for separate states for Israel and Palestine.

In the interim, though, who can blame the convert to Peace Never? How much can you expect believers in peace to take?

Our militaries, Palestinian and Israeli, have beaten peace to a pulp. Year after year, we cluster bomb it from the air, suicide bomb it from buses, pick it off with sniper rifles, pulverize it with Qassam after Katyusha after Fajr after Zelzal. We settle it to death. We strangle it with walls, we crush it with bulldozers, we smother it by refusing to recognize the other side, talk to the other side, budge from our mental bunkers.

You can't blame many believers in peace for giving in and going to Peace Never.

How many years can you be expected to hold your breath, waiting for change, demonstrating for change, voting for change?

How many peace plans can you watch go unaddressed?
How many special envoys, Secretaries of State, Gulf state princes, can you watch leave with that same look on their face?
How much fury can you swallow?
How much disheartening can you stand?
How many generations have been raised hoping that the next will be the first not to go to war?

How many years can you hold your breath?



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      1.   Peace Never: The National Party of Israel 10:48  |  Clickfool 13/10/06
      2.   Peace Never 10:58  |  Peter Dale 13/10/06
      3.   Peace Always 11:18  |  Karim 13/10/06
      4.   Why do I hear Joan Baez when I read that last paragraph? 11:40  |  Johnboy 13/10/06
      5.   Peace Never 11:41  |  Choni 13/10/06
      6.   Burston: Wake Up And Smell The Humus 11:47  |  Yishai Kohen 13/10/06
      7.   Peace Never: the dream of the ClickFOOLS and the Jihadists 12:04  |  Jonathan S 13/10/06
      8.   Peace Never. 12:07  |  NEUTERED OBSERVER 13/10/06
      9.   Peace....No Problem ! 12:12  |  Klaudia 13/10/06
      10.   Speak for yourself Burston 12:13  |  Suha 13/10/06
      11.   Delenda Est Zionism 12:48  |  Gonvil Bromhead 13/10/06
      12.   Jonathan S#7 12:53  |  Peter Dale 13/10/06
      13.   Jonathan S pt.2 12:56  |  Peter Dale 13/10/06
      14.   # 1 Clickfool. 13:00  |  Kathy 13/10/06
      15.   To ClickFOOL #1: Allow for peace, finally 13:32  |  Jonathan S 13/10/06
      16.   CHONI 13:35  |  Stephen Connor 13/10/06
      17.   Suha & Yishai 13:37  |  Jack 13/10/06
      18.   "Oslo"-was a chance for PALS. Arafat was a deceiver. 13:38  |  Vittorio 13/10/06
      19.   Peace - Just stop fighting 13:41  |  Lemmings Hotline 13/10/06
      20.   Resolution 181 voting pattern 14:07  |  Marilyn 13/10/06
      21.   Neverland 14:11  |  Ronnie Wolman 13/10/06
      22.   We Can`t Coexist With Radical Islam 14:23  |  Jane 13/10/06
      23.   We Can`t Coexist With Radical Islam 14:23  |  Jane 13/10/06
      24.   To #4 14:26  |  Taylor Hill 13/10/06
      25.   Those US `Jews`... 14:34  |  Edith 13/10/06
      26.   PEACE IMPOSSIBLE WITH RADICAL ISLAM 14:35  |  B 13/10/06
      27.   It takes two to make peace ... 14:40  |  Gee 13/10/06
      28.   #10 Suha. Are you Suha Arafat? 14:41  |  Vittorio 13/10/06
      29.   Klaudia, Israel doesn`t seem to be a fortress of anti-capitalism 15:00  |  christoph 13/10/06
      30.   sorry I meant: ... no fortress AGAINST anti-capitalism 15:20  |  christoph 13/10/06
      31.   Having to Live with Peace Never 15:23  |  Yaakov Sullivan 13/10/06
      32.   Clickfool, Jonathan 15:24  |  Joe 13/10/06
      33.   Karim 15:40  |  Joe 13/10/06
      34.   # 21 edith from belgium 15:43  |  brice de nice 13/10/06
      35.   Jane, misguided.... 15:46  |  Ibrahim 13/10/06
      36.   It takes two to make peace ... part 2 15:52  |  Mat 13/10/06
      37.   Peace Never is the only button acceptable to 16:00  |  Mark Lincoln 13/10/06
      38.   Jack From Tampa: YOU Learn To Get Along With Al-Qaida 16:03  |  Yishai Kohen 13/10/06
      39.   Marilyn #17 16:06  |  Ben Gurion 1 13/10/06
      40.   to JACK/14 Finally someone with a vision 16:13  |  Hala 13/10/06
      41.   Let the games begin 16:26  |  raul 13/10/06
      42.   Karim we don`t want your land 16:43  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 13/10/06
      43.   Marilyn 16:49  |  Jasmine Murphy 13/10/06
      44.   What`s wrong with Peace Never? 16:50  |  Yael 13/10/06
      45.   No peace for Israel Sorry! 16:54  |  Raul 13/10/06
      46.   Mat #32 16:55  |  Gee 13/10/06
      47.   #14 Jack on the cycle of hatred 17:19  |  Sam 13/10/06
      48.   Peace, only kidding 17:31  |  The Other Alan 13/10/06
      49.   Peace is Possible 18:05  |  Eli Wapniarski 13/10/06
      50.   Blaming the OTHER side - a sure sign of a PeaceNeverNik 18:11  |  David Kat 13/10/06
      51.   We should be pleased if we could reach a peaceful co-existence, 18:11  |  Shlomzion 13/10/06
      52.   to Choni #5 in Sunny Durban, S.Africa 18:31  |  Ari ben Yisrael 13/10/06
      53.   Yael (Post No. 41) 18:37  |  Johnny Weintraub 13/10/06
      54.   #17marilyn Once again talking through the wrong orifice 18:42  |  Ari ben Yisrael 13/10/06
      55.   Yael, good words, really good words! 18:44  |  Ilana 13/10/06
      56.   To Margie #39 18:51  |  Guido 13/10/06
      57.   #29 Joe 19:00  |  Michael II 13/10/06
      58.   #14 Right on the money..... 19:09  |  T A Sheppard 13/10/06
      59.   MESHAL QUOTE IS FROM WHERE? 19:28  |  Aaron 13/10/06
      60.   So, what is the upshot 19:43  |  Michael N 13/10/06
      61.   Taking Back the Center 19:50  |  Mark of Lewiston 13/10/06
      62.   Karim #3 19:53  |  Curious 13/10/06
      63.   Marilyn again 19:55  |  Aaron 13/10/06
      64.   # Ben Gurion. Inertia and vision. WELL SAID ! 20:00  |  Kathy 13/10/06
      65.   Jack 20:47  |  Gina 13/10/06
      66.   Brad`s BS Getting Tiresome 21:07  |  Tod Zuckerman 13/10/06
      67.   Peace Never has been the Slogan of those who never.. 21:09  |  Bimmer 13/10/06
      68.   Yishai #35 21:12  |  Jack 13/10/06
      69.   Liberty or Death 21:44  |  Johanes Franzen 13/10/06
      70.   RAT not Peace Now 22:10  |  B 13/10/06
      71.   Ibrahim and expectations 22:11  |  peter 13/10/06
      72.   Jack #49 Try #7 22:31  |  Ben Gurion 1 13/10/06
      73.   Where`s my post? 22:49  |  The Other Alan 13/10/06
      74.   #39 we dont want your land 22:51  |  Amused 13/10/06
      75.   lack of vision and hind sight of 20/20 Ben Gurion 22:56  |  Jacob Blues 13/10/06
      76.   But Yaakov, land did not create peace any more 22:59  |  Michael 13/10/06
      77.   Ibrahim, how? 23:05  |  Michael 13/10/06
      78.   Military-Industrial complex 23:25  |  Pssd Off American 13/10/06
      79.   Give Peace a chance 23:56  |  saif saleh 13/10/06
      80.   G-D WILL PLACE SALVATION IN ZION FOR ISRAEL HIS GLORY?? 00:04  |  Bill. 14/10/06
      81.   Jacob Blue: Good Questions of Ben Gurion 01:46  |  Ronnie Wolman 14/10/06
      82.   # 60 The Other Alan. WHERE`S MINE AS WELL? 01:47  |  Kathy 14/10/06
      83.   Wrong Bradley 02:11  |  Danite 14/10/06
      84.   To Clickfool #1-Peace Never = Israel Never 02:13  |  Daniel Leopold 14/10/06
      85.   Ibrahim-#32 02:35  |  Daniel Leopold 14/10/06
      86.   Karim-#3-The war of words 02:49  |  Daniel Leopold 14/10/06
      87.   Pressure on Israel can bring peace 02:59  |  Robert Farrell 14/10/06
      88.   How Many Years 03:40  |  Fred Goepfert 14/10/06
      89.   Continual "non-peace" is still better than total war. 03:53  |  Voice of Reason 14/10/06
      90.   PEACE DEPENDS ON ISRAEL 05:04  |  Lebanese 14/10/06
      91.   Please post this for our children sake 06:24  |  raul 14/10/06
      92.   Lebanese -- Palestinians can offer to forego right of return 06:33  |  Gina 14/10/06
      93.   Fearing Our Victory 06:44  |  FOX 14/10/06
      94.   Farrell #87 mesmorized 06:51  |  FOX 14/10/06
      95.   Arabs Want Peace 07:18  |  Walid 14/10/06
      96.   HOW GENIUS THIS ZIONISTS 07:32  |  indrajaya 14/10/06
      97.   To Ari Ben Yisrael #52 07:38  |  Choni 14/10/06
      98.   Conflict is Ripe for Resolution 07:39  |  Neil 14/10/06
      99.   Conflict is Ripe for Resolution - part 2 07:44  |  Neil 14/10/06
      100.   Walid 08:05  |  Kapule David Mabuta 14/10/06
      101.   peace never 08:57  |  ed 14/10/06
      102.   To Joe No. 33 - What About Now Joe ? 09:07  |  Karim 14/10/06
      103.   To Daniel No. 86 - All Jews are Not Zionists 09:20  |  Karim 14/10/06
      104.   92 Gina - A Right is a Right 09:34  |  Mark of Lewiston 14/10/06
      105.   95 Walid - Unilateralism Doesn`t Work 09:52  |  Mark of Lewiston 14/10/06
      106.   Karim-#103-About Jews and Zionists 10:06  |  Daniel Leopold 14/10/06
      107.   Kapule David Mabuta 10:30  |  Walid 14/10/06
      108.   Peace Never 10:40  |  Terry Brodsky 14/10/06
      109.   Peace Never 11:01  |  Joe 14/10/06
      110.   Mark of Lewiston 11:05  |  Walid 14/10/06
      111.   Mark of Lewiston -- negotiation tables have come and gone 11:14  |  Gina 14/10/06
      112.   Joe 11:22  |  Walid 14/10/06
      113.   Peace Never and Other Articles ad nauseum 11:34  |  Dr Mason 14/10/06
      114.   Walid 11:56  |  Gina 14/10/06
      115.   the remaining persons with some tenderness... 12:00  |  christoph 14/10/06
      116.   To Daniel No. 106 - Things Can Be Worked Out 12:13  |  Karim 14/10/06
      117.   Dr Mason : disclaimer 12:45  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 14/10/06
      118.   Would Jews forgo the right of return? 13:36  |  Lebanese admirer 14/10/06
      119.   To Gina No. 114 - Just For The Record 14:11  |  Karim 14/10/06
      120.   The Jews Aren`t Going Away 14:15  |  Jane 14/10/06
      121.   to Shlomzion #51 14:18  |  zeev 14/10/06
      122.   Peace will eventually come, BUT 14:19  |  jsbach 14/10/06
      123.   Foxes and Fiddles 14:28  |  Ronnie Wolman 14/10/06
      124.   to Dr. Mason #113 14:40  |  zeev 14/10/06
      125.   Zeev 14:59  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 14/10/06
      126.   to Jane #120 15:02  |  zeev 14/10/06
      127.   Walid 15:18  |  Kapule David Mabuta 14/10/06
      128.   Question for Mr. Never Right 15:38  |  Sidney 14/10/06
      129.   Zeev. When I refer to "we" I do so in reference to a whole 15:39  |  Shlomzion 14/10/06
      130.   Zeev from Beersheba #124 15:45  |  Dr Mason 14/10/06
      131.   disgusting 15:46  |  John of Jordan 14/10/06
      132.   #108 Terry Brodsky 15:53  |  John of Jordan 14/10/06
      133.   Gina 15:58  |  Walid 14/10/06
      134.   re. Zionism, answer to Karim 15:59  |  Joe 14/10/06
      135.   Zeev. I n my previous note I neglected to address myself to the 16:03  |  Shlomzion 14/10/06
      136.   JS Bach 16:11  |  Walid 14/10/06
      137.   What Do You Call Hamas and Hizzbulla? 16:18  |  Jane 14/10/06
      138.   126Zeev to Jane: Hiding behind technicalities. 16:27  |  Michigan 14/10/06
      139.   119Karim to Gina: Your "Record" is a Lie! 16:40  |  Michigan 14/10/06
      140.   Karim-#116-Sorry things have to be worked out now 16:48  |  Daniel Leopold 14/10/06
      141.   Fox 16:48  |  Walid 14/10/06
      142.   #118 Lebanese Admirer 16:52  |  Sidney 14/10/06
      143.   111 Gina - No Reason Not to Talk 16:53  |  Mark of Lewiston 14/10/06
      144.   to Margie #125 - edited 17:11  |  zeev 14/10/06
      145.   It was the end of the beginning (Kathy #64) 17:18  |  David ben Avigdor 14/10/06
      146.   Inertia and vision 17:31  |  David ben Avigdor 14/10/06
      147.   to robert farrel 17:39  |  citizen zero 14/10/06
      148.   Zeev. (This is a second try to pass a note to 17:53  |  Shlomzion 14/10/06
      149.   to karim 17:59  |  citizen zero 14/10/06
      150.   Vision for peace 18:22  |  David ben Avigdor 14/10/06
      151.   Ronnie-it ain`t Don Messer 18:29  |  peter 14/10/06
      152.   Peter 19:33  |  Walid 14/10/06
      153.   Reply to John of Jordan #129 20:10  |  Terry Brodsky 14/10/06
      154.   Jewish by race or religion? 20:15  |  Lebanese admirer 14/10/06
      155.   Peter You are too smart for me I cant negotiate with you! 20:20  |  Ronnie Wolman 14/10/06
      156.   Mark Lewiston, regarding Gina and other rejectionists 20:36  |  Ibrahim 14/10/06
      157.   Daniel Leopald, let`s not make excuses... 20:40  |  Ibrahim 14/10/06
      158.   #147 Vision for peace 20:43  |  Johnson 14/10/06
      159.   Walid- apologies on behalf of Ha`aretz 21:01  |  peter 14/10/06
      160.   The Zionists want to Europhrates and the Nile 21:03  |  Lebanese in Canada 14/10/06
      161.   No peace with the neo-cons 21:19  |  Lebanese in Canada 14/10/06
      162.   To Joe No. 134 - My Opinion 21:25  |  Karim 14/10/06
      163.   To Daniel No. 140 - Wait And See 21:29  |  Karim 14/10/06
      164.   To Michigan No. 139 - You Are Being Mislead 21:36  |  Karim 14/10/06
      165.   Mark of Lewiston -- no problem with talks 21:40  |  Gina 14/10/06
      166.   to Shlomzion #145 - part 1 21:41  |  zeev 14/10/06
      167.   To Citizen Zero No. 149 - Ask Your IDF 21:41  |  Karim 14/10/06
      168.   Karim 21:44  |  Gina 14/10/06
      169.   Shlomzion # 135 21:45  |  Neil 14/10/06
      170.   #152-Walid ll 21:45  |  peter 14/10/06
      171.   David IBN Avigdor-Backwards 21:59  |  Ben Gurion 1 14/10/06
      172.   Walid 22:12  |  Ben Gurion 1 14/10/06
      173.   Circular arguments like Gee`s 22:44  |  sh 14/10/06
      174.   As the Noose tightens around Israels neck 23:30  |  Ray 14/10/06
      175.   Mark of lewiston#143 00:18  |  Danite 15/10/06
      176.   Walid 2 00:19  |  Gina 15/10/06
      177.   Walid (second try) -- respect 00:20  |  Gina 15/10/06
      178.   Mark of Lewiston-Gina 00:22  |  danite 15/10/06
      179.   sh #172 00:22  |  Gee 15/10/06
      180.   Ibrahim -- no reason to be bitter and lie 00:24  |  Gina 15/10/06
      181.   to Shlomzion #145 - part 2 (try 2) 00:40  |  zeev 15/10/06
      182.   Ibrahim-#157-we all make excuses 00:43  |  Daniel Leopold 15/10/06
      183.   ARABS CANNOT OFFER PEACE 00:43  |  matthew 15/10/06
      184.   156 Ibrahim 00:47  |  Mark of Lewiston 15/10/06
      185.   Karim-#163-Wait for what? 00:49  |  Daniel Leopold 15/10/06
      186.   to Michigan #138 (2nd try) 00:51  |  zeev 15/10/06
      187.   165 Gina - Breshnev is Dead 01:09  |  Mark of Lewiston 15/10/06
      188.   on peter #151 - and a mythical occupation (2nd try) 01:15  |  zeev 15/10/06
      189.   Vision (Johnson #158) 01:17  |  David ben Avigdor 15/10/06
      190.   marvelous... thank you 02:05  |  Mike 15/10/06
      191.   Mark of Lewiston 02:45  |  Gina 15/10/06
      192.   #104, Mark of Lewiston 03:33  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 15/10/06
      193.   Al Quaida 0 Maccabi Haifa1 03:40  |  Steve McCladen 15/10/06
      194.   arabist apologists and mythical occupation 04:15  |  peter 15/10/06
      195.   to Jane #137 - (2nd try) 04:51  |  zeev 15/10/06
      196.   to matthew #183 04:53  |  zeev 15/10/06
      197.   SCIENCE FICTION MAY BE WHAT`S IN STORE 04:57  |  Larry Klein 15/10/06
      198.   peter 04:57  |  Gina 15/10/06
      199.   There will be peace 06:56  |  RAB 15/10/06
      200.   Peace Never? 08:32  |  sandra chitayat 15/10/06
      201.   PEACE IS LIKE THE TRUTH 08:35  |  Dutch 15/10/06
      202.   To Daniel No. 185 - What Shall We Inherit To Our Children 08:43  |  Karim 15/10/06
      203.   Shalom / Salaam / Peace??? 09:03  |  Yossi 15/10/06
      204.   to Choni Davidowitz #97(Part 1) 09:50  |  Ari ben Yisrael 15/10/06
      205.   191 Gina - Final Positions 10:02  |  Mark of Lewiston 15/10/06
      206.   to Choni Davidowitz #97(Part 2) 10:05  |  Ari ben Yisrael 15/10/06
      207.   192 Cipora - The Universal Declaration of Human Rights 10:22  |  Mark of Lewiston 15/10/06
      208.   Truth Never, Peace Never 13:08  |  Michael 15/10/06
      209.   to Choni 14:10  |  zeev 15/10/06
      210.   #207, Mark of Lewiston 17:22  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 15/10/06
      211.   Do not limit this to Israel 18:04  |  Efox 15/10/06
      212.   Belive 19:30  |  Alex Ensor 15/10/06
      213.   To Zeev #209 20:14  |  Ari ben Yisrael 15/10/06
      214.   # 209 zeev.JUST ONE THING TO CLARIFY THE CONUNDRUM,ON YOUR NAME.. 20:58  |  Kathy 15/10/06
      215.   to Kathy re Zeev 21:16  |  Ari ben Yisrael 15/10/06
      216.   # 215 Ari ben Yisrael.re: Zeev. Thanks for your response... 23:07  |  Kathy 15/10/06
      217.   Karim 23:56  |  Jane 15/10/06
      218.   Great article (seems talkback is siding with peace never) 23:57  |  worriedlebanese 15/10/06
      219.   #216, Kathy 00:19  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 16/10/06
      220.   Peace Forever, not Peace Now 04:38  |  Ben Plonie 16/10/06
      221.   DOOMSDAY FOR ISRAEL AT THE END 07:41  |  indrajaya 16/10/06
      222.   peace never 08:34  |  tabman 16/10/06
      223.   164 Karim, How can you be trusted? 10:06  |  Michigan 16/10/06
      224.   Children of Peace 10:08  |  FOX 16/10/06
      225.   Kathy`s response #14 10:40  |  Tom 16/10/06
      226.   To Michigan No. 223 - I Trust What I See 10:46  |  Karim 16/10/06
      227.   Karim`s Humiliation for generations 11:00  |  FOX 16/10/06
      228.   A dangerous article to uneducated readers 13:52  |  Emil 16/10/06
      229.   Just because we want peace *now* doesn`t mean we`ll get it 14:30  |  Gili 16/10/06
      230.   #35 - Ibrahim 15:08  |  Deborah 16/10/06
      231.   Peter and Gina 15:26  |  Walid 16/10/06
      232.   #221 - Doomsday for Israel 15:39  |  Deborah 16/10/06
      233.   on Emil #228 16:54  |  zeev 16/10/06
      234.   226 Karim: You must have selective vision. 17:58  |  Michigan 16/10/06
      235.   Peaace @ Israel;invading Palestinians Peace Never 18:55  |  Sam 16/10/06
      236.   to Kathy #214 19:56  |  zeev 16/10/06
      237.   GENIUS INDRAJAYA 00:05  |  Isaac Leal 17/10/06
      238.   About 600 More Years 00:17  |  John 17/10/06
      239.   peter dale 00:41  |  FLOWER 17/10/06
      240.   to Gili #229 - part 1 02:22  |  zeev 17/10/06
      241.   to Gili #229 - part 2 02:23  |  zeev 17/10/06
      242.   Peace Never 10:00  |  Brian 17/10/06
      243.   to Choni #5 15:52  |  zeev 19/10/06
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