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The Pope did us all a favor
By Bradley Burston


There is no excusing it. There is no understanding it.

But there may be something healthy in it.

There is no way of knowing why a Holy Father would say such a thing. There is no conceivable advantage in a Pontiff who preaches respect for the symbols and sensitivities of other faiths, to cite the statement - even as he distanced himself from it - "Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached."

Here, after all, is the man who less than a year ago, issued an eloquent condemnation of the Danish Mohammed cartoons. Here is the Pope who said "the Catholic Church continues convinced that, to foster peace and understanding between peoples and men, it is necessary and urgent that religions and their symbols be respected".

There is no way of explaining why the Holy See, having sparked Muslim ire worldwide, and having already decided to issue an unprecedented apology, would content himself with an expression of regret worthy of the most Polish of Jewish mothers, the equivalent of "What kind of person reacts this way to things like what I said?"

Unless, somewhere inside, he meant what he said in the first place.

A senior official of the Islamic Movement in Israel said Sunday that all the Pope had to do to end the affair was to say two words, "I apologize."

But Yitzhak Minervi, a former Israeli envoy to the Vatican and an authority on papal relations with other faiths, said the Pontiff was unlikely to take any such step.

"The man has a clear line, a firm stance toward fundamentalist Islam, he rules out in its entirety violence based on religion, and this is the message that he wants sounded clearly in Europe."

"He's no fool. I assume that he foresaw exactly what the results and the reactions would be."

The Church, meanwhile, knows exactly how bad this is. In a remarkable use of a Hebrew expression unusually reserved for suicide bomb masterminds who inadvertently blow themselves up, Franciscan Friar David Jaeger said of the current affair "It's clear that there was a work accident here."

"It was a very serious sort of work accident," Jaeger told Israel Radio. "Now the Pope and his people, and the entire church are laboring very hard in order to repair the damage."

On the face of it, no possible good could have come of this.

On closer inspection, however, we all of us have a number of things to learn from this affair, and from a number of other recent instances of a public figure sparking controversy with opinions seldom aired in public.

Take, for example, the case of rightist MK Effi Eitam, who said last week that "We will have to expel the great majority of the Arabs of Judea and Samaria.

Experience showed, Eitam continued, that Israel cannot give up the area of the West Bank. "It is impossible with all of these Arabs, and it is impossible to give up the territory. We've already seen what they're doing there."

Turning to the subject of Israeli Arabs, Eitam said, "We will have to take another decision, and that is to sweep the Israeli Arabs from the political system. Here, too, the issues are clear and simple. We've raised a fifth column, a league of traitors of the first rank. Therefore, we cannot continue to enable so large and so hostile a presense within the political system of Israel."

Racist and inflammatory? Certainly. Worth hearing? Absolutely.

All public figures, like all actual human beings, have a little box of horrors squirreled away somewhere. It is full of the horrors that they think in their heart of hearts and only let on to those who are close to them, those, in fact, who think the same.

For public figures, there is something healthy about letting the venom drain. Putting it out in the open, so that people on both sides can discuss it. Lancing the abscess so that, in the process, we can all of us begin to heal.

The modern world has made us experts at a personal form of political correctness, consigning our dark impulses, designs, and views to the securely secreted little box.

It's only natural, this double life of the intellect. We practice it at work, even at home. It keeps us safe. But it also keeps us lying.

Maybe it's time we opened up the little box of horrors inside every one of us. The one full of what we truly believe.

"Hold on," I hear the irate reader protest at this point. "How can you say that, when at the same time you impose censorship on the very people who let it hang out, all of it, all the time?"

Opening the box, in this sense, does not mean simply collecting the venom in order to throw it into the face of those who vex us, annoy us, oppose us, believe in other faiths or political movements.

It does not mean, for example, firebombing churches to defend Islam from charges that it is a religion of violence. It does not mean advocating the wholesale slaughter of Muslims in order to make sure that a Holocaust does not recur.

It means opening the box so that we can examine what's in there, for good and, often, ill. Expose it, for once, to light and air.

And to courage. And to self-esteem.

A large part of having the courage of one's convictions, is a willingness to see how they actually stand up to the other side, in the context of discussion in which both sides listen at least as intently, as they talk.

As equals.

For the rightists among us, courage, in this sense, means examining your own actions and views and fallibilities as critically as you do those of your rivals.

For the leftists among us, self-esteem, in this context, means looking with the same appreciation and understanding of your own side's virtues, as you would those of the other side.

Understanding between peoples who have a history of war going back hundreds of years, begins this way - opening the little box of horrors within each of us.

Not, for once, as weaponry and ammunition, but as the bent mirror urgently in need of repair.


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  1.   The Pope should have just kept his mouth shut 11:36  |  Clickfool 18/09/06
  2.   Sorry he should be 11:41  |  Maral 18/09/06
  3.   Disagree 11:55  |  Israel Israeli 18/09/06
  4.   Clickfool 11:59  |  Aby 18/09/06
  5.   the pope erred 11:59  |  Khalid Amayreh 18/09/06
  6.   the Pope 12:01  |  Khalid 18/09/06
  7.   an unheard wake up call 12:13  |  osvaldo 18/09/06
  8.   the pope is right, what`s now 12:13  |  joe 18/09/06
  9.   Israeli Israeli 12:13  |  Khalid 18/09/06
  10.   To clickfool, you say "their" 12:15  |  ariel 18/09/06
  11.   Critical thinking 12:17  |  Bruce 18/09/06
  12.   The Long History of European Anti-Semitism 12:27  |  Amoz 18/09/06
  13.   The Pope got his information all wrong 12:29  |  fatima 18/09/06
  14.   thank you clickfoot # 1 12:30  |  fatima 18/09/06
  15.   Khalid 12:31  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 18/09/06
  16.   Khalid, don`t need imagination 12:33  |  Curious 18/09/06
  17.   Where`s the rebuttal from Q`ran 12:42  |  Bruce 18/09/06
  18.   #1 12:42  |  Ari ben Yisrael 18/09/06
  19.   "Dies academicus" and typical jewish "taboo" thinking 12:45  |  fritz 18/09/06
  20.   Reminder to the Pope 12:47  |  Hussein 18/09/06
  21.   Khalid--read my post 12:48  |  Isarel Israeli 18/09/06
  22.   The Pope Did Us All a Favor 12:48  |  Shawn O`Dowling 18/09/06
  23.   a question for Khalid #9 12:49  |  Ari ben Yisrael 18/09/06
  24.   The Pope had the courage others lack.What percent of all wars 12:51  |  PETER SM 18/09/06
  25.   islam is not violent , i will burn ur chruch if u disagree 12:55  |  ich 18/09/06
  26.   To # 3 Israel Israeli 12:55  |  Romario 18/09/06
  27.   The Dichotomy of Islam 12:56  |  Ronnie Wolman 18/09/06
  28.   Reply to Amoz - 12. 13:00  |  James 18/09/06
  29.   Suggestion re. talkback guidelines. 13:02  |  Ben 18/09/06
  30.   Khalid 13:04  |  Yaron 18/09/06
  31.   most wars (today) involve muslims is because 13:06  |  Hussein 18/09/06
  32.   Certainly what the pope did was stupid 13:07  |  Judith 18/09/06
  33.   #18 Ari: SHANA TOVA U`M`TUKA? No secret Jewish code words . 13:10  |  Clickfool 18/09/06
  34.   To Bruce 13:17  |  Khaled 18/09/06
  35.   Margie in Tel Aviv: abrahamic religions are one religion, 13:24  |  Khalid 18/09/06
  36.   Curious: you are lumping the religious with the political 13:27  |  Khalid 18/09/06
  37.   by comparison 13:28  |  common leb 18/09/06
  38.   Khalid 13:31  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 18/09/06
  39.   Bruce, an accused is innocent until proven guilty 13:32  |  Khalid 18/09/06
  40.   That is the Pope`s real thinking 13:37  |  Ralph 2 18/09/06
  41.   to common leb 13:39  |  Hussein 18/09/06
  42.   the pope 13:39  |  nancy 18/09/06
  43.   Yes, it`s healthier to bring things out in the open, but... 13:40  |  Marhaba 18/09/06
  44.   Israeli Israeli, there is an explanation 13:40  |  Khalid 18/09/06
  45.   "positive provocation" that has not been proven wrong 13:40  |  Felix 18/09/06
  46.   Don`t click you fool Clickfool 13:43  |  Richard 18/09/06
  47.   Yaron says 13:44  |  Thomas 18/09/06
  48.   Ari Ben Israel, There is no doubt the holocaust was an aggregate 13:45  |  Khalid 18/09/06
  49.   ClickFOOL #33 13:45  |  Gee 18/09/06
  50.   Every person might have his/her prejudices. Even a Pope. 13:47  |  AA 18/09/06
  51.   #31 Hussein: You have terror cells throughout our lands 13:48  |  CrabbyMax 18/09/06
  52.   When the West criticizes Islam,it is news 13:48  |  Elvis Scudbubble 18/09/06
  53.   The IRanian President 13:50  |  Khalid 18/09/06
  54.   COMMON DENOMINATOR OF ALL MUSLIM TERRORISTS IS BELIEF -72 VIRGINS 13:51  |  Ben 18/09/06
  55.   Margie, you are putting wrods into my mouth 13:55  |  Khalid 18/09/06
  56.   Yaron, all wars are political in the final analysis 13:59  |  Khalid 18/09/06
  57.   # 51 - FANTASTIC! 14:00  |  Someone 18/09/06
  58.   On Clickfool #1 14:00  |  zeev 18/09/06
  59.   #51 : a REAL insult of islamic faith 14:00  |  Felix 18/09/06
  60.   Clickfool - Secret Jewish Codewords 14:02  |  Third World Jew 18/09/06
  61.   Islam forbids alcohol, but its heaven flows with wine! 14:02  |  IslamicStudent 18/09/06
  62.   WHERE IS THE REBUTTAL :BRUCE #17 14:06  |  fatima 18/09/06
  63.   Hussein is that why there are suicide bombings in Algeria 14:06  |  PETER SM 18/09/06
  64.   Mr Burnston , what has Bush done in Iraq ? Bomb with flowers ? 14:08  |  fatima 18/09/06
  65.   Pope-Islamic Fundamentalism 14:08  |  Mel (M) 18/09/06
  66.   Burston`s Hypocrisy 14:12  |  Judeophile 18/09/06
  67.   The Pope merely stated his beliefs 14:13  |  Mark Lincoln 18/09/06
  68.   Islamic student..raised by Islamophobes 14:14  |  Khalid 18/09/06
  69.   NR 2 RETROSPECTIVE! 14:15  |  Mario Fiorito 18/09/06
  70.   curious , palestinians are not burning churches 14:16  |  fatima 18/09/06
  71.   Felix: you are wrong 14:17  |  Khalid 18/09/06
  72.   #60 Islamic Student: Wine and Virgins 14:21  |  Nigel 18/09/06
  73.   Double standards by opposers of Pope 14:22  |  Jeroen 18/09/06
  74.   The pope made us a favor 14:24  |  Zaneco 18/09/06
  75.   19, more on Luetzeler, "dies academicus" etc 14:25  |  fritz 18/09/06
  76.   Muslims are peaceful when dominant 14:26  |  Third World Jew 18/09/06
  77.   The Pope`s words were not healthy but disingenuous and spiteful 14:31  |  Fairplay 18/09/06
  78.   Hey Khalid, how bout the horse 14:31  |  Prof. HEAD 18/09/06
  79.   THE END OF THE TRADITIONAL PAPACY 14:32  |  indrajaya 18/09/06
  80.   Thomas 14:33  |  Yaron 18/09/06
  81.   Bruce - rebuttle 14:33  |  fk 18/09/06
  82.   to CrabbyMax 14:35  |  Hussein 18/09/06
  83.   The Pope 14:37  |  Fred 18/09/06
  84.   TRUTH MUST NOT BE MUZZLED ?? 14:41  |  Bill. 18/09/06
  85.   To Romario 26 14:42  |  FB 18/09/06
  86.   Moslems should apologize! 14:42  |  FOX 18/09/06
  87.   Bruce waht does Matthew 10:34 reminds of ? 14:43  |  fatima 18/09/06
  88.   The pope and most christian people truly beleives that 14:43  |  Ken 18/09/06
  89.   to Peter SM 14:48  |  Hussein 18/09/06
  90.   Khalid 14:50  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 18/09/06
  91.   Pope words were welcomed by catholics 14:54  |  Criss-Argentina 18/09/06
  92.   Third World Jew: Fundamentalism 14:56  |  Ronnie Wolman 18/09/06
  93.   Benedict is no fool! 14:58  |  Cavler Crociatus 18/09/06
  94.   As you said Bradley , a bent mirror urgently in need of repair 14:59  |  Joseph E . post 2 18/09/06
  95.   #71: Quotes seem to be a delicate issue 15:02  |  Felix 18/09/06
  96.   pope controvesy 15:03  |  morrie 18/09/06
  97.   No military bases Hussein, but.... 15:07  |  Hussein 18/09/06
  98.   The Pope`s quote 15:09  |  Paul 18/09/06
  99.   To Criss-Argentina 15:09  |  Jeroen 18/09/06
  100.   #22 15:13  |  Itsik 18/09/06
  101.   To Fatima 15:15  |  Criss-Argentina 18/09/06
  102.   To Hussein #84 15:20  |  Third World Jew 18/09/06
  103.   To # 17 [Where`s the rebuttal from Q`ran] 15:26  |  Yazan 18/09/06
  104.   Khalid num. 9 15:26  |  Worried 18/09/06
  105.   violent response to comments proves pope right 15:28  |  toni 18/09/06
  106.   Wrong Analysis Mr Burston 15:28  |  Karim 18/09/06
  107.   THE UNGRATEFUL TRAITORS 15:30  |  indrajaya 18/09/06
  108.   The real favor- indicting Islamic jihadism 15:35  |  Shalom Freedman 18/09/06
  109.   The Pope Was Quoting Someone 1,000 Years Ago 15:40  |  Jane 18/09/06
  110.   thirdworldjew - sincerely 15:44  |  fk 18/09/06
  111.   ISLAM versus INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM 15:44  |  Alicia 18/09/06
  112.   to Margie & Khalid - new world 15:51  |  common leb 18/09/06
  113.   Throwing stones in a glass house 15:54  |  Proselyte 18/09/06
  114.   Pope is wrong 16:01  |  Lebanese Christian 18/09/06
  115.   #1: What about "truth..." 16:02  |  unclicked/unfooled 18/09/06
  116.   Islamic Response is Revealing 16:11  |  Scrolls 18/09/06
  117.   Ari ben Yisrael #18 16:12  |  ClearView 18/09/06
  118.   #71: quotes seem to be a delicate issue 16:13  |  Felix 18/09/06
  119.   Pope, Islam, Christianity 16:14  |  Dr. Ari Nir 18/09/06
  120.   Ronnie Wolman #90 16:20  |  Gabe1 18/09/06
  121.   To hussein 16:25  |  Tony 18/09/06
  122.   Another coded message! 16:33  |  Ronald McDonald 18/09/06
  123.   Satanic Verses? 16:33  |  david 18/09/06
  124.   What does violence mean? 16:35  |  Kapule David Mabuta 18/09/06
  125.   Cause & solution. 16:37  |  Pam 18/09/06
  126.   Indrajaya 16:38  |  Jasmine Murphy 18/09/06
  127.   So, don`t you think Jane 16:42  |  Mark Lincoln 18/09/06
  128.   The Silence of Words 16:43  |  Tony Anthony 18/09/06
  129.   Logic of our times... 16:43  |  bat yam 18/09/06
  130.   Antisemitism-Pope-converts-Azimov 16:49  |  Hanna 18/09/06
  131.   Christian violence 16:49  |  NEUTERED OBSERVER 18/09/06
  132.   Pope was wrong 16:49  |  the little flower 18/09/06
  133.   beersheva zeev 16:55  |  zadok the priest 18/09/06
  134.   #101:Jasmine, the whole world is obssessed with Israel... 17:05  |  frs 18/09/06
  135.   The Pope was deliberately provocative 17:06  |  Le Maudit Anglais 18/09/06
  136.   on Hussein #31 17:08  |  zeev 18/09/06
  137.   Fritz, Germany is a great tree 17:08  |  Federico Glez. 18/09/06
  138.   Christ challenged overzealous hypocrites to throw the stones. 17:10  |  simon 18/09/06
  139.   Prof liar: you must be really ignorant 17:16  |  Khalid 18/09/06
  140.   beersheva zeev re ami ayalon 17:18  |  zadok the priest 18/09/06
  141.   Benedict was right 17:18  |  Seth Halpern 18/09/06
  142.   Benedict the HYPOCRITE 17:21  |  jesse 18/09/06
  143.   Maybe The Pope Knows Something We Don`t Know? 17:21  |  Sam The Sham 18/09/06
  144.   #93b Indrajaya 17:23  |  filo 18/09/06
  145.   Lets be honest ... 17:24  |  mika 18/09/06
  146.   The Sword 17:37  |  Todd 18/09/06
  147.   Pope still very powerful 17:41  |  Jojo 18/09/06
  148.   when it comes to Islam, West brag about free speech 17:45  |  omolll 18/09/06
  149.   You see why your idea wouldn`t work Bradley?! 17:47  |  A Muslim 18/09/06
  150.   Mika... 17:51  |  Maral 18/09/06
  151.   Khalid 17:52  |  Ronald McDonald 18/09/06
  152.   So you`re saying what Fatima? That the Palestinians... 17:52  |  Jacob Blues 18/09/06
  153.   The Pope. The murdered nun. Latest news 17:53  |  KUTW 18/09/06
  154.   A lecture in Regensburg 17:59  |  Michael 18/09/06
  155.   Oh no, not violent at all 18:02  |  deborah 18/09/06
  156.   109. Gabe1 18:02  |  KUTW 18/09/06
  157.   #66 Judeophile 18:02  |  Boycott 18/09/06
  158.   And with your own words Khalid, we draw the problem 18:04  |  Jacob Blues 18/09/06
  159.   Is there anything that won`t offend Muslims ? 18:11  |  Michael Byrne 18/09/06
  160.   #43, Marhaba, I agree with your analyis 100% 18:14  |  Sam 18/09/06
  161.   Short history 18:15  |  John 18/09/06
  162.   Lebanese Cristian 18:15  |  Lorenzo 18/09/06
  163.   #102 Jane 18:17  |  Boycott 18/09/06
  164.   92. Ronnie Wolman 18:19  |  KUTW 18/09/06
  165.   When is Violence Peaceful? 18:20  |  Tony Anthony 18/09/06
  166.   Khalid and Censors #124 18:20  |  Gabe1 18/09/06
  167.   Bradely Burston is right 18:26  |  ARA 18/09/06
  168.   to clickfool and Fatima 18:27  |  charles 18/09/06
  169.   Christian Minorities 18:28  |  Arab Christian 18/09/06
  170.   The followers of The Religion of Peace (TM) outrage 18:29  |  Mike Savage 18/09/06
  171.   Another view on the subject, op-ed from Germany 18:31  |  Jacob Blues 18/09/06
  172.   If I were in Palestinians` shoes... 18:33  |  ARA 18/09/06
  173.   Weird 18:38  |  Adina 18/09/06
  174.   Khalid # 124 The Incompleteness of Islam 18:40  |  Jeff Northridge 18/09/06
  175.   the mess that will come 18:46  |  Michele 18/09/06
  176.   Replacement theories and revisionism the root of religious evil 18:53  |  B 18/09/06
  177.   Santa, The Tooth Fairy, and the Easter Bunny 18:58  |  Haley 18/09/06
  178.   #133 Todd 19:00  |  Adina 18/09/06
  179.   Khalid, nobility and lies re #124 19:09  |  FOX 18/09/06
  180.   #52 -- to Elvis Scudbubble -- I agree with everything you said! 19:09  |  Pat 18/09/06
  181.   on Hussein #31 19:12  |  zeev 18/09/06
  182.   Free Speech.... 19:12  |  Pastor Phil 18/09/06
  183.   #108 -- to Lebanese Christian 19:12  |  Pat 18/09/06
  184.   Romario # 26 19:18  |  ChanahS 18/09/06
  185.   #146 - to ARA -- Good post! 19:18  |  Pat 18/09/06
  186.   Boycott-I Meant Muslims Should Grow Up Not Burston 19:20  |  Jane 18/09/06
  187.   Ralph 2 # 40 19:29  |  ChanahS 18/09/06
  188.   to Third World Jew #76 19:29  |  zeev 18/09/06
  189.   #150 - to ARA -- what I meant was 19:33  |  Pat 18/09/06
  190.   What if he said something similar about Jews? 19:33  |  Constantine 18/09/06
  191.   Freeing ourselves from self censorship 19:34  |  SD 18/09/06
  192.   Gee # 49 19:35  |  ChanahS 18/09/06
  193.   #159 Jane 19:42  |  Boycott 18/09/06
  194.   #108 lebanese christian 19:44  |  nancy 18/09/06
  195.   Jane #157 19:44  |  Gabe1 18/09/06
  196.   The Pope did us all a favor 19:54  |  Ali 18/09/06
  197.   The Pope, Truth, and Islam 19:54  |  The Raccoon 18/09/06
  198.   #101 I wish I could disagree with Indrajaya 20:02  |  hollingsworth 18/09/06
  199.   #172 Constantine fair question 20:08  |  FOX 18/09/06
  200.   Praise God for this one - Someone had to say it! 20:08  |  Virginia 18/09/06
  201.   Re: Khalid 20:12  |  Tony Shimon 18/09/06
  202.   An American Protestant`s Box of Horrors 20:14  |  Jim 18/09/06
  203.   since i am gay and jewish 20:15  |  justin- 18/09/06
  204.   Re 168 Who is to blame 20:18  |  Alan (the original) 18/09/06
  205.   Thank-you Pope Benedict 20:21  |  Connie 18/09/06
  206.   Re: curios 20:23  |  Tony Shimon 18/09/06
  207.   let`s not start quoting Luther, Savonarola etc. 20:25  |  Wiktor 18/09/06
  208.   To # 46 Richard in Tel Aviv 20:27  |  Jim 18/09/06
  209.   Constantine 20:28  |  Connie 18/09/06
  210.   Constantine 20:28  |  Connie 18/09/06
  211.   The pope is indeed a confused man 20:29  |  Sylvia 18/09/06
  212.   Pope 20:29  |  Fed Up 18/09/06
  213.   To Indrajaya and all who read his talkbacks 20:34  |  Ucok 18/09/06
  214.   Karim # 100 20:35  |  ChanahS 18/09/06
  215.   Public Letter to muslim communities worldwide 20:38  |  A christian 18/09/06
  216.   TO Maral 20:40  |  Mika 18/09/06
  217.   redundant 20:41  |  Tova 18/09/06
  218.   Fk # 104 20:41  |  ChanahS 18/09/06
  219.   The appropriate measure from the appropriate figure 20:43  |  TonyL 18/09/06
  220.   The truth is beautiful 20:48  |  Michael 18/09/06
  221.   Sick 20:54  |  Jim 18/09/06
  222.   Why Are Khalid, Hollingsworth And Indrajaya Given Free Reign? 20:54  |  Sam The Sham 18/09/06
  223.   To Mark Lincoln 20:58  |  deborah 18/09/06
  224.   #58, zeev 21:03  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 18/09/06
  225.   TOVA TUKA! (does that make sense?) 21:03  |  marios polycarpou 18/09/06
  226.   #5 -- to Khalid -- When did the Holocaust really start? 21:05  |  Pat 18/09/06
  227.   #200 -- to Justin - 2%? 21:07  |  Pat 18/09/06
  228.   ChanahS #190 21:10  |  Gee 18/09/06
  229.   #199 -- Jim 21:11  |  Pat 18/09/06
  230.   I think its working pretty well, a Muslim 21:16  |  Jacob Blues 18/09/06
  231.   NO Marios 21:17  |  Danite 18/09/06
  232.   #169, zeev: the question to be asked is not of G-d, but of humans 21:19  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 18/09/06
  233.   Provocative indeed, Le Maudit 21:21  |  Jacob Blues 18/09/06
  234.   Pope was not wrong 21:24  |  Passerby 18/09/06
  235.   Islam needs intense self -examination(3rd try) 21:25  |  Howard 18/09/06
  236.   to Tova # 214 . You`re interpreting the speech as face value. 21:30  |  Marhaba 18/09/06
  237.   re Pope`s remarks 21:35  |  Spike 18/09/06
  238.   To: # 147 21:36  |  Jim 18/09/06
  239.   # 147 21:36  |  Jim 18/09/06
  240.   p.s. 21:38  |  Spike 18/09/06
  241.   The Pope should apologize when he 21:44  |  Pat 18/09/06
  242.   The Pope did himself is dis-favour 21:47  |  Fadi 18/09/06
  243.   #1 Clickfool - you`re joking, of course 21:49  |  Yonatan 18/09/06
  244.   # 229 Pat 21:50  |  Jim 18/09/06
  245.   #239: religion and politics separated, at least in Europe 21:51  |  Felix 18/09/06
  246.   Naaa Marios my friend #225 21:57  |  Ari ben Yisrael 18/09/06
  247.   Michael # 196 The Failure of Religion 21:58  |  Jeff Northridge 18/09/06
  248.   Think before you open your mouth! 21:59  |  ans jansen-meurs 18/09/06
  249.   #190 -- to Constantine -- apples and oranges 22:00  |  Pat 18/09/06
  250.   #211: Not every sophisticated belief-system is irrational 22:01  |  Felix 18/09/06
  251.   to Danite #231 22:02  |  Ari ben Yisrael 18/09/06
  252.   Pope Ben-Oït XVI... Sounds jewish, no ? LOL 22:02  |  Yankelowitz 18/09/06
  253.   Omoll # 148 22:05  |  ChanahS 18/09/06
  254.   # 235 Howard 22:07  |  Jim 18/09/06
  255.   To HaAretz 22:11  |  Jim 18/09/06
  256.   Cipora Julianna Kohn # 232 Anthropocentrism 22:12  |  Jeff Northridge 18/09/06
  257.   #226 Pat from California 22:14  |  Jimmy 18/09/06
  258.   #106 Wrong Analysis, Mr. Karim 22:17  |  Katya 18/09/06
  259.   Dear Danite... 22:18  |  marios polycarpou 18/09/06
  260.   # 217 Tova. AND HOW APPROPRIATE YOUR NAME!! re: redundant. 22:21  |  Kathy 18/09/06
  261.   Methinks Jim, that you speak a bit to hastily 22:27  |  Jacob Blues 18/09/06
  262.   You would have censored the Pope ... 22:33  |  Abe 18/09/06
  263.   IS THIS HOW JEWS REPAY THESE PEOPLE?????????????????????????????? 22:33  |  Jacob 18/09/06
  264.   I would not characterize it as a favor, but an obligation 22:34  |  TonyL 18/09/06
  265.   # 190 Constantine 22:39  |  ChanahS 18/09/06
  266.   # 153 KUTW. THE POPE, I HAD HEARD ABOUT THE NUN YESTERDAY.READ ,, 22:39  |  Kathy 18/09/06
  267.   War of clones 22:40  |  Michel 18/09/06
  268.   SD # 191 22:40  |  ChanahS 18/09/06
  269.   marhaba #236 22:41  |  natan 18/09/06
  270.   Fadi 242 22:42  |  deborah 18/09/06
  271.   To: # 245 Felix 22:47  |  Jim 18/09/06
  272.   Tony Shimon # 206 22:48  |  ChanahS 18/09/06
  273.   Wake up call to western leaders 22:50  |  Warrior 18/09/06
  274.   To Mr.Bradley Burston. A SPECIAL SHANA TOVA TO YOU... 22:51  |  Kathy 18/09/06
  275.   Separate Islam from state of Muslims worldwide 22:51  |  Daniel 18/09/06
  276.   Pope # 212 22:52  |  ChanahS 18/09/06
  277.   Message: Truth And Only the Truth? 22:55  |  Bernie Lewis 18/09/06
  278.   POPE 22:58  |  J 18/09/06
  279.   Shana Tova U Metuka Le Kulam 22:59  |  Daniel 18/09/06
  280.   Whenever 23:04  |  Edith 18/09/06
  281.   Hussein from Birut 23:05  |  David Israel 18/09/06
  282.   translations for fk 23:06  |  NR 18/09/06
  283.   PROPHETS 23:10  |  DON 18/09/06
  284.   Pope Did Us All A Favor 23:11  |  Dennis Provda 18/09/06
  285.   To: #226 Pat 23:16  |  Jim 18/09/06
  286.   Fadi #242 23:18  |  ChanahS 18/09/06
  287.   Jewish Criticism of the Pope = Stupid/Cowardly 23:24  |  Tod Zuckerman 18/09/06
  288.   Khalid, but which book is the most popular in the Arab World? 23:26  |  Jake 18/09/06
  289.   Missing the Popes Point 23:26  |  LMB 18/09/06
  290.   Deb...#270 23:28  |  Fadi 18/09/06
  291.   GO TO READ ON www.chick publication/Onlinereadings/The prophet. 23:30  |  ELIAS 18/09/06
  292.   #286 ChanahS 23:31  |  Fadi 18/09/06
  293.   266 Kathy 23:32  |  KUTW 18/09/06
  294.   R-E-S-P-C-T; find out what it means to me... 23:34  |  Jacob Blues 18/09/06
  295.   to Khalid #5 23:39  |  Dave 18/09/06
  296.   Pope article shuffle 23:40  |  Efox 18/09/06
  297.   THIS CATHOLIC Is Offended By The Pope`s HYPOCRISY! - 1 23:41  |  Proud Pal Defender 18/09/06
  298.   Todd Zuckerman: Your Post Is Right On the Mark 23:45  |  Bernie Lewis 18/09/06
  299.   Dennis Provda: Don`t Waste Your Time 23:48  |  Bernie Lewis 18/09/06
  300.   Richard and all Jews 23:49  |  Maureen Ann 18/09/06
  301.   To Dennis 284 23:49  |  Michel 18/09/06
  302.   An answer to FADI, "HOW DID JOSHUA BIN NOON CONQUER CANAAN? 23:53  |  ELIAS 18/09/06
  303.   The Pope did us all a favor part 1 23:54  |  Susan 18/09/06
  304.   The Pope did us all a favor part 2 23:56  |  Susan 18/09/06
  305.   Holocaust 23:56  |  Jew from NY 18/09/06
  306.   What a Sorry Spectacle It Is! 23:56  |  Bernie Lewis 18/09/06
  307.   297. Proud Pal Defender; HYPOCRACY 23:58  |  KUTW 18/09/06
  308.   To Hussein #31 00:00  |  Bob 19/09/06
  309.   To Hussein #31 00:00  |  Bob 19/09/06
  310.   Sheesh Michel! 00:02  |  Bernie Lewis 19/09/06
  311.   Who is promoting violence? 00:06  |  Noblehouse 19/09/06
  312.   muslim response 00:06  |  citizen zero 19/09/06
  313.   #302 Joshua bin No one / Elias 00:12  |  Jimmy 19/09/06
  314.   256. Jeff Northridge 00:15  |  KUTW 19/09/06
  315.   THIS CATHOLIC Is Offended By The Pope`s HYPOCRISY! - 2 00:17  |  Proud Pal Defender 19/09/06
  316.   # 261 Jacob Blues 00:25  |  Jim 19/09/06
  317.   TO DAVE # 295 RE KHALID 00:25  |  Eli 19/09/06
  318.   secret jewish code 00:25  |  citizen zero 19/09/06
  319.   RESPECT 00:33  |  Nasser 19/09/06
  320.   a coded message to all who understand it 00:34  |  eva 19/09/06
  321.   The Pope is Right 00:34  |  Kimberly 19/09/06
  322.   pope in Germany 00:34  |  Adam 19/09/06
  323.   36. Khalid 00:34  |  KUTW 19/09/06
  324.   Foolishness of Clickfool 00:35  |  Nassarah 19/09/06
  325.   It`s the Truth 00:38  |  Nari 19/09/06
  326.   266 Kathy 00:39  |  KUTW 19/09/06
  327.   Bradley--Regarding LEADERS...I Disagree! 00:39  |  Proud Pal Defender 19/09/06
  328.   pope 00:40  |  tom 19/09/06
  329.   Response to Khalid 00:42  |  Barbiri 19/09/06
  330.   Dear Daniel from Mexico... 00:46  |  marios polycarpou 19/09/06
  331.   Reply to Most wars today... 00:48  |  Kimberly 19/09/06
  332.   "Secret Jewish Codes" 00:51  |  Sheileah 19/09/06
  333.   Fadi #290 00:54  |  deborah 19/09/06
  334.   THE POPE 00:56  |  W CHURCHILL 19/09/06
  335.   pope did us a favor 01:20  |  scott 19/09/06
  336.   Hi KUTW - Hope you got my thanks from the last thread? 01:22  |  Virginia 19/09/06
  337.   THE POPE IS APPEASING LOW INSTINCTS 01:23  |  wahbi 19/09/06
  338.   Pope Benedikt 16: forget trip to Turkey, see Mt. Sinai and HL 01:32  |  Aaron 19/09/06
  339.   # 11 Bruce. Critical thinking.... 01:33  |  Kathy 19/09/06
  340.   Popes comments strategic 01:33  |  brent 19/09/06
  341.   Nasser-What does Jihad mean to you? 01:38  |  Virginia 19/09/06
  342.   The Pope read a very old respons 01:41  |  tgreen 19/09/06
  343.   1 corinthians 16:22 01:43  |  Rob 19/09/06
  344.   # 103 Yazan. The Quran`s sayings.... 01:47  |  Kathy 19/09/06
  345.   THIS CATHOLIC Is Offended By The Pope`s HYPOCRISY! - 2 01:48  |  Proud Pal Defender 19/09/06
  346.   Impressed 01:55  |  Bob M 19/09/06
  347.   Dear NR from Beer Sheva.. 01:56  |  marios polycarpou 19/09/06
  348.   # 127 Mark Lincoln. JUST A FEW WORDS,, 01:58  |  Kathy 19/09/06
  349.   To all PACIFIERS WAKE up 02:00  |  Canadian 19/09/06
  350.   Bradley--Regarding LEADERS...I Disagree! 02:02  |  Proud Pal Defender 19/09/06
  351.   Tod Zuckerman #287 02:12  |  Gee 19/09/06
  352.   to Cipora J. Kohn #224 02:14  |  zeev 19/09/06
  353.   DON*283 CORRECTION RE: PROPHETS ?? 02:16  |  Bill. 19/09/06
  354.   #5 Khalid Amayreh--"the Pope erred" 02:20  |  hala 19/09/06
  355.   Reply to ALL wars today. 02:21  |  Virginia 19/09/06
  356.   PROOF IN THE PUDDING 02:23  |  Gavriel 19/09/06
  357.   The hunt for scientists (if you think the earth is round, etc.) 02:34  |  Rob 19/09/06
  358.   #279 and un prospero an(tilde on the `n`!)o nuevo to Daniel 02:36  |  hala 19/09/06
  359.   benedict XVI 02:41  |  ed mc callum 19/09/06
  360.   Nasser #305 02:41  |  TonyL 19/09/06
  361.   Death Penalty in Afghanistan!!!!! 02:43  |  rhodoman 19/09/06
  362.   Marios 02:47  |  Danite 19/09/06
  363.   Rob #315 - I`m not sure the point? 02:52  |  Virginia 19/09/06
  364.   What Do Ahmadinejad And The Pope Have In Common? 02:54  |  Sam The Sham 19/09/06
  365.   The Pope 02:56  |  Dr. Brian 19/09/06
  366.   The speach the Pope didn`t make 03:05  |  Akram Zekaria 19/09/06
  367.   Here`s A Secret Jewish Code! 03:05  |  Sam The Sham 19/09/06
  368.   #257 - Jimmy from Glasgow 03:07  |  Pat 19/09/06
  369.   clickfool-#33-the secret Jewish code? 03:09  |  Daniel Leopold 19/09/06
  370.   The Pope is screwing Palestine and we fell for it! 03:10  |  Palestinian Prince 19/09/06
  371.   Nuke the Pope he hurt Muslim feelings 03:10  |  raul 19/09/06
  372.   marios polycarpou-#225-thank you 03:17  |  Daniel Leopold 19/09/06
  373.   Arab Christian #169, you`re forgetting who they really worship 03:18  |  Palestinian Prince 19/09/06
  374.   #285 -- to Jim -- where the Holocaust really began 03:19  |  Pat 19/09/06
  375.   Proud Pal Defender 03:19  |  Gina 19/09/06
  376.   #190, of course not Constantine 03:20  |  Palestinian Prince 19/09/06
  377.   #287 - Todd Zuckerman - I totally agree with you! 03:20  |  Pat 19/09/06
  378.   Daniel -- thanks 03:25  |  Gina 19/09/06
  379.   What did the Persian scholar reply? 03:28  |  Honi 19/09/06
  380.   2nd:The speach the Pope didn`t make 03:29  |  Akram Zekaria 19/09/06
  381.   in BB`s favor 03:31  |  igli 19/09/06
  382.   # 302 Elias 03:44  |  Jim 19/09/06
  383.   # 103 Yazan The Quran`s sayings...Omissions 03:51  |  talldarkandhandsome 19/09/06
  384.   time for Hollywood to film a "documentary" 03:52  |  abu zaitoon 19/09/06
  385.   OPINIONS CHANGING 04:01  |  TOBIA 19/09/06
  386.   # 299 04:06  |  Jim 19/09/06
  387.   Apology 04:24  |  Jim 19/09/06
  388.   #328 No problems 04:25  |  Criss-Argentina 19/09/06
  389.   To Elias 04:27  |  Criss-Argentina 19/09/06
  390.   NASSAR 04:33  |  TOBIA 19/09/06
  391.   The Pope did us all a favor 04:34  |  Darius 19/09/06
  392.   To Yisrael and Yerushalaim 04:40  |  Jim 19/09/06
  393.   PALASTANIAN PRINCE 04:41  |  TOBIA 19/09/06
  394.   Preparation for Armegeddon 04:48  |  American Prophet 19/09/06
  395.   #327 Gina - Abandoning Islam 04:53  |  Ted 19/09/06
  396.   Splitting religious hairs, Jim 05:04  |  Jacob Blues 19/09/06
  397.   # 322 Sydney 05:06  |  Jim 19/09/06
  398.   To Khaled 05:08  |  hanoi 19/09/06
  399.   Time to face the mirror, Nasser 05:10  |  Jacob Blues 19/09/06
  400.   Historic wisdom about Islam, the Persian/Iranian View 05:17  |  John Isenhower 19/09/06
  401.   #314..why do you disagree Deb? 05:22  |  Fadi 19/09/06
  402.   #331 Honi 05:24  |  Fadi 19/09/06
  403.   Now .....What can we do for you......??? 05:26  |  BamBoo 19/09/06
  404.   To: # 332 Akram Zekaria 05:28  |  Jim 19/09/06
  405.   MOON GOD 05:32  |  PJ 19/09/06
  406.   # 63 & # 24 Peter SM 05:36  |  Aussie RA 19/09/06
  407.   neutered observer 05:49  |  maria 19/09/06
  408.   Nice, nice 05:49  |  none 19/09/06
  409.   Pope`s remarks 05:51  |  Gordon 19/09/06
  410.   Muslim world? Where is the Muslim world? 05:58  |  J`d