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Goldstone to U.S. rabbis: Lieberman doesn't want Mideast peace talks
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The author of a damning report on Israel's winter offensive against Hamas in Gaza, Richard Goldstone, has said that Foreign Minster Avigdor Lieberman does not want there to be an Israeli-Palestinian peace process.

Goldstone, a South African Jurist, made the claim in a conference call
on Sunday with 150 U.S. rabbis from left-leaning organizations. He was speaking in reference to an Israeli assertion that the report would harm peace talks.
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"That just is a shallow, I believe, false allegation," he said. "What peace process are they talking about? There isn't one. The Israeli foreign minister doesn't want one at all."

Lieberman, a right-winger, has drawn fire for criticizing Israel's past efforts in seeking a peace agreement with the Palestinians.

Goldstone's report accused both Israel and Hamas of committing war crimes during the 3-week campaign, but mainly focused on alleged Israeli offenses. It set off an uproar in Israel, and Israeli officials have largely dismissed it as biased.

In the conference call - which was cosponsored by the Ta'anit Tzedek Jewish Fast For Gaza; Rabbis for Human Rights, North America; and the Brit Tzedek Rabbinic Cabinet - Goldstone reiterated the allegation in his report that Israel deliberately targeted Palestinian civilians.

"There is one thread running through, and that was to punish the people of Gaza," he told the rabbis. "It was a collective punishment. I don't believe that sufficient distinction was made between civilians and combatants."

The UN investigator, who has also served as chief prosecutor for the world body of war crimes in Rwanda and the former Yugoslavia, rejected statements that Hamas militants were in close proximity to witnesses the probe interviewed in Gaza, which is ruled by the Islamist militant group.

"Let me immediately refute with every conviction I can muster the mischievous and untruthful suggestion that there was any Hamas presence anywhere near the places near where we interviewed witnesses," Goldstone said. "It just isn't true - had it been so, I would have found it completely unacceptable."

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      1.   Goldstone again hits-the-nail-on-the-head... 12:03  |  Esther 20/10/09
      2.   goldstone has crossed the red line of jurisprudence 12:04  |  vhardman 20/10/09
      3.   Goldstone: Soft voice strong message 12:05  |  kibishi 20/10/09
      4.   Flawed principals 12:30  |  Paul 20/10/09
      5.   Mideast peace process 12:43  |  rm 20/10/09
      6.   Goldstone lost all credibility 12:48  |  Sammy 20/10/09
      7.   ESTHER did he interview Liberman first or is this like 12:52  |  PETER SM 20/10/09
      8.   Goldstone is an unfortunate dummy 12:53  |  Victor 20/10/09
      9.   #4 Give it a rest, Paul 12:58  |  Johnboy 20/10/09
      10.   Goldstone proves that he is merely a politician 13:00  |  Binyamin Dissen 20/10/09
      11.   kibishi hamas fatah do no have to be happy with the report 13:04  |  PETER SM 20/10/09
      12.   JOHNBOY how many dead kiddies if Hamas wore uniforms 13:13  |  PETER SM 20/10/09
      13.   politics too 13:17  |  rob 20/10/09
      14.   Nuts 13:21  |  Lola 20/10/09
      15.   If Hilary had Goldstone`s guts, there would be peace. 13:22  |  Michael 20/10/09
      16.   Goldston on Lieberman 13:22  |  Edward 20/10/09
      17.   Paul #4...just interested... did you take a cencus in Gaza...? 13:32  |  Esther 20/10/09
      18.   Takes zero guts to speak from the ivory tower 13:40  |  Binyamin Dissen 20/10/09
      19.   #15 michael exposed as a complete idiot 13:42  |  vhardman 20/10/09
      20.   Sad 13:43  |  John 20/10/09
      21.   What are people griping about? 13:43  |  harvey 20/10/09
      22.   How did he recognize Hamas people ? 13:56  |  David Plane 20/10/09
      23.   John naive boy so you give us a rest Part I 13:56  |  Aby 20/10/09
      24.   Goldstone has destoyed it Evet is irrelevant 14:01  |  Miche Norman Hod Has 20/10/09
      25.   Not only that Israel doesn`t want peace 14:02  |  dani.a 20/10/09
      26.   Lola #1,Goldstone saw such extreme devastation with his own eyes 14:21  |  Esther 20/10/09
      27.   John Part 3 14:32  |  Aby 20/10/09
      28.   PETER #7... Lieberman has expressed himself so openly... 14:33  |  Esther 20/10/09
      29.   Lieberman and Bibi are monsters 14:34  |  Anonymous 20/10/09
      30.   more to fear then .. 14:35  |  HM 20/10/09
      31.   PETER SM THANK YOU SIR. 14:35  |  Petra 20/10/09
      32.   Honest Moral Jews 14:35  |  American Patriot 20/10/09
      33.   Paul 4. OK to collectively punish Israel for Olmert and Bibi? 14:40  |  Michael 20/10/09
      34.   #16His comment came long after the report was in 14:40  |  harvey 20/10/09
      35.   And Goldstone isn`t interested in human rights 14:45  |  Joe Sittizen 20/10/09
      36.   What peace process? 14:52  |  Roo 20/10/09
      37.   Spot on, he`s right and Liberman has confirmed it a number 14:53  |  Ezra 20/10/09
      38.   #6, Sammy-Goldstone in highest tradition of Judiasm 14:53  |  Don Boston 20/10/09
      39.   And what does Hamas want 15:08  |  Jackie 20/10/09
      40.   Th problem with Goldstone`s allegations ... 15:13  |  Jasper 20/10/09
      41.   Johnboy Part 2 again 15:20  |  Aby 20/10/09
      42.   #1 - "flinching" 15:24  |  set it straight 20/10/09
      43.   Goldstone As A Jurist: Its all About Him! 15:28  |  Brad 20/10/09
      44.   Q 4 readers 15:29  |  Phillipe 20/10/09
      45.   Can you tell who is Hamas and who isn`t 15:39  |  gorm 20/10/09
      46.   What peace process? 15:46  |  Roo 20/10/09
      47.   To Benyamin Dissen 15:53  |  John 20/10/09
      48.   #34 Jasper 15:55  |  BDS 20/10/09
      49.   # 29 Honest Jews 16:05  |  Arab American 20/10/09
      50.   Michael blame Palies not Israel 16:10  |  Aby 20/10/09
      51.   Duh...i think lieberman said that himself more then a 100 times 16:11  |  joe 20/10/09
      52.   Goldstone, We all don`t want to live with Hamas 16:17  |  fredyr 20/10/09
      53.   So it`s all politically motivated and biased 16:17  |  McQueen 20/10/09
      54.   Thanks God 16:29  |  Avi 20/10/09
      55.   Too right Edward@ 16:30  |  The Judge 20/10/09
      56.   Goldstone (Goldstein) A Judge or a Politician? 16:32  |  Gil 20/10/09
      57.   Goldstone (Goldstein) A Judge or a Politician? 16:32  |  Gil 20/10/09
      58.   Re # Paul: Youjust justified attacks on Israeli civilians 16:34  |  Apa 20/10/09
      59.   Pals want Jerusalem+ROR.Netanyahu said NO to both 16:41  |  Sam 20/10/09
      60.   BDS 16:43  |  Jasper 20/10/09
      61.   Goldstone 16:49  |  Yariv 20/10/09
      62.   o.k you win.lieberman craves peace 16:50  |  1001 nights 20/10/09
      63.   Exceeding Scope 16:55  |  Fred 20/10/09
      64.   Who paid to play? 17:13  |  a wandering Jew 20/10/09
      65.   I`m convinced! Lieberman is... 17:24  |  Phillipe 20/10/09
      66.   Esther, it was a war 17:28  |  Lola 20/10/09
      67.   Too Much of Goldstone 17:29  |  Ron 20/10/09
      68.   PETER SM 17:55  |  Goldstone 20/10/09
      69.   Gil Goldstone is not a politician.A judge acts according to what 17:56  |  The Judge 20/10/09
      70.   In brief Sam# 59 Goldstone is getting far too much attention 18:06  |  The Judge 20/10/09
      71.   To #45 18:12  |  Col [Res] Cohen 20/10/09
      72.   But Hamas and PA with their oh so loving... 18:24  |  Eli 20/10/09
      73.   Thank goodness Israel took care in minimising 18:35  |  r cummings 20/10/09
      74.   GOldstone 100% right about Lieberman and Gaza 18:40  |  Dolphin 20/10/09
      75.   Goldstone Ignorant About HAMAS But Expert In Israel`s Politics! 18:44  |  massaraksh 20/10/09
      76.   Goldstone investigated cast-lead, not judged it. 18:48  |  Rod 20/10/09
      77.   Yariv, it doesn`t work like that 18:49  |  r cummings 20/10/09
      78.   As if we needed confirmation about Goldstone! here it is 18:56  |  Jewish State 20/10/09
      79.   In every generation there is a "Goldstone" 18:59  |  Tzvi 20/10/09
      80.   Judge and jury??? 19:12  |  r cummings 20/10/09
      81.   True Words Spoken by Goldstone 19:13  |  Vladek 20/10/09
      82.   r cummings 19:14  |  Yariv 20/10/09
      83.   Peter SM - IDF has killed far more Pal kids 19:28  |  Don Boston 20/10/09
      84.   There cannot be peace 19:28  |  Fritz T. 20/10/09
      85.   Johnboy`s obtuse statements about regulations 19:29  |  SDHD 20/10/09
      86.   What should be the Rabbi`s answer 19:32  |  Benzaquen 20/10/09
      87.   To Yariv 19:34  |  r cummings 20/10/09
      88.   What should be the Rabbi`s answer 19:34  |  Benzaquen 20/10/09
      89.   SDHD in effect recognises the war crime 19:41  |  r cummings 20/10/09
      90.   Beg to differ r,cummins.Goldstone calls himself a "Judge" 19:41  |  The Judge 20/10/09
      91.   R Cummings 19:45  |  Yariv 20/10/09
      92.   Cummings -- blathering 19:55  |  SDHD 20/10/09
      93.   peter sm 12 19:57  |  potobac 20/10/09
      94.   benjamin dissen 18 20:00  |  potobac 20/10/09
      95.   Potobac attempts to equate Hamas with Jewish fighters 20:03  |  SDHD 20/10/09
      96.   Goldstone is a sad example 20:04  |  robert 20/10/09
      97.   joe sittizen 35 20:07  |  potobac 20/10/09
      98.   Don Boston about kids 20:09  |  SDHD 20/10/09
      99.   Goldstone - an inconvenient ally... 20:10  |  dudi 20/10/09
      100.   SDHD, Israel is not the first country to have to 20:12  |  r cummings 20/10/09
      101.   Cummings and silly equivocations 20:22  |  SDHD 20/10/09
      102.   SDHD and side-stepping issues 20:44  |  r cummings 20/10/09
      103.   Israel`s rejection of peace 20:48  |  Ibrahim 20/10/09
      104.   dudi, your logic fails 20:52  |  Ibrahim 20/10/09
      105.   Cummings inventing fictitious issues 20:55  |  SDHD 20/10/09
      106.   Ibrahim claims Israel rejected peace 20:56  |  SDHD 20/10/09
      107.   Ibrahim`s choices 21:02  |  SDHD 20/10/09
      108.   Goldstone is a heroic Jews 21:20  |  Marc Leb 20/10/09
      109.   SDHD 21:34  |  Apa 20/10/09
      110.   SDHD`s "key players" during the Clinton negotiations... 21:36  |  Ibrahim 20/10/09
      111.   SDHD, thinking is required. 21:38  |  Ibrahim 20/10/09
      112.   SDHD--do shut up--Northern Ireland-andGaza are very much the same 21:43  |  Labhras 20/10/09
      113.   SDHD you got it wrong ---again read one of the main 21:48  |  Labhras 20/10/09
      114.   SDHD---Irgun/Stern/Lehi--also had that choice 21:51  |  Labhras 20/10/09
      115.   Goldstone is deluded 21:57  |  Manny 20/10/09
      116.   Goldstone`s nakedly political comments 21:58  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 20/10/09
      117.   Palestinians rejected peace? nonsense 22:13  |  Joe 20/10/09
      118.   JohnBOY (#9) 300+ dead kiddies (Plus how many JohnBOY) 22:18  |  Gil 20/10/09
      119.   Peace or War 22:21  |  Natalie 20/10/09
      120.   one way to counter goldstone lies 22:25  |  michael 20/10/09
      121.   SDHD is a lost cause 23:07  |  r cummings 20/10/09
      122.   Circular argument 23:14  |  Kevin 20/10/09
      123.   Kol hakavod, judge Goldstone ! Stand tall 23:18  |  Admirer 20/10/09
      124.   Paul 23:31  |  Hugh 20/10/09
      125.   Goldstone 23:42  |  Hugh 20/10/09
      126.   ???rabbis?? 00:21  |  david 21/10/09
      127.   Goldstone 00:34  |  Sarah 21/10/09
      128.   Russia, China, Iran, Saudi - All Incite, Sacrifice Pal/Isra blood 02:02  |  how-stupid-r-leaders 21/10/09
      129.   Lieberman is right. No peace till Pals acknowledge Israel 04:12  |  Jason 21/10/09
      130.   gallstone and the rabbis 04:16  |  Shmuelshachor 21/10/09
      131.   Mr. Goldstone is correct 04:53  |  John Q. Public 21/10/09
      132.   BOSTON notkilling enough Israeli children notdue to lack of tryin 06:35  |  PETER SM 21/10/09
      133.   Goldstone the narcissist 06:37  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 21/10/09
      134.   I didn`t know Hamas wears name tags! 07:09  |  Disgusted 21/10/09
      135.   #77 r cummings 09:23  |  Der Zweifler 21/10/09
      136.   Goldstone the Narcissist?Agreed a 100 % 14:13  |  James 21/10/09
      137.   Hugh@109 Goldstone must be either a dreamer or? 14:31  |  James 21/10/09
      138.   To John Q. Public@126 Which Goldstone are you referring? 14:56  |  James 21/10/09
      139.   Just think if Goldstone wasn`t a Zionist Jew 15:20  |  Joe 21/10/09
      140.   michael @118 Quite true and an easy option but why? 16:04  |  James 21/10/09
      141.   peter sm 12 16:14  |  potobac 21/10/09
      142.   Cipora the narcissist 16:57  |  Ibrahim 21/10/09
      143.   James, another expert on narcissism 16:59  |  Ibrahim 21/10/09
      144.   Apa`s question 17:04  |  SDHD 21/10/09
      145.   Ibrahim forgets other key players 17:05  |  SDHD 21/10/09
      146.   Labrhat`s version of history 17:06  |  SDHD 21/10/09
      147.   #9 johnboy`s HYPOCRISY is EXPOSED - - - by johnboy 17:10  |  CK Tan 21/10/09
      148.   Now the real Goldstone stands up. 17:28  |  Manny 21/10/09
      149.   Aby #41 18:09  |  Bilin 21/10/09
      150.   SDHD, yes, please read Malley. 19:35  |  Ibrahim 21/10/09
      151.   More unhelpful remarks from Goldstone 07:05  |  hmpierson 22/10/09
      152.   Go A Head Goldstone,don`t be afraid 08:58  |  ahyar 22/10/09
      153.   Honest 09:16  |  ahyar 22/10/09
      154.   collective puhishment 20:07  |  Ralph Osbon 22/10/09
      155.   what is life? 23:48  |  cristian 23/10/09
      156.   Lieberman/Goldstone doesn`t want Mideast peace talks? 05:28  |  John B 25/10/09
      157.   Labhras, #113 08:25  |  Michael Davison 25/10/09
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