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Last update - 10:41 13/09/2009
EU sources: Terms set for renewal of Israel-PA talks
By Akiva Eldar
Tags: Israel News, Palestinians 

Negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians will resume next month on the basis of an understanding that the establishment of a Palestinian state will be officially announced in two years.

Palestinian and European Union sources told Haaretz that talks will initially focus on determining the permanent border between Israel and the West Bank.

Due to the Palestinians' reservations over establishing a state with temporary borders, as was proposed during the second stage of the road map, this step will probably be defined as "early recognition" of Palestine.
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It is understood that this will be accompanied by a public American and European declaration that the permanent border will be based on the border of June 4, 1967. Both sides may agree to alter the border based on territorial exchanges.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's refusal to discuss Jerusalem and the Palestinian refugees in the initial negotiation stages will not be allowed to delay the announcement of an independent Palestinian state.

Likewise, Netanyahu's demand that the Palestinians recognize Israel as the nation-state of the Jewish people, and that the Arab world embark on normalizing ties with Israel, will not constitute preconditions to an "early recognition" of Palestine.

A Palestinian source said Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas has decided that the chief negotiator at the Palestine Liberation Organization, Dr. Saeb Erekat, will lead the Palestinian negotiating team.

Abbas may also hold private meetings with Prime Minister Netanyahu at the same time, as he did with Netanyahu's predecessor, Ehud Olmert.

Netanyahu said last week in private talks that the differences with the Americans over the settlements now center on whether the freeze in construction will last nine months, as he is proposing, or a full year, which is what the Americans are asking.

The prime minister said he was confident that a compromise would be reached in the coming days, possibly during a meeting scheduled with U.S. special envoy to the Middle East, George Mitchell, who arrived in Israel last night.

An agreement with the Americans on the issue of settlement construction is expected to pave the way for a tripartite meeting in New York between Abbas, Netanyahu and U.S. President Barack Obama at the UN General Assembly.

Meanwhile, a senior diplomatic source said yesterday that the proposal of the European Union High Representative for the Common Foreign and Security Policy, Javier Solana, that the United Nations accept Palestine as a full member within two years, was made with the support at the highest levels of the U.S. administration.

The plan is based, among others things, on ideas President Shimon Peres recently put before Netanyahu and foreign leaders, including Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, as well as Mitchell and Spanish Foreign Minister Miguel Moratinos. During those conversations, Peres referred to the Prime Minister of the Palestinian Authority, Salam Fayyad, as a "Palestinian Ben-Gurion."

The Israeli president was referring to Fayyad's plan to build the infrastructure for a Palestinian state and to declare its independence as a state de facto, in two years.

Netanyahu has not yet commented on Fayyad's plan.

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      2.   What part of "based on" don`t you understand, Johnboy? 03:20  |  The Prophet 13/09/09
      3.   Abbas Changed His Mind? 03:21  |  Mark of Lewiston 13/09/09
      4.   I`m glad to have lived long enough to see this... 03:24  |  BBSNews 13/09/09
      5.   Zero chance of this happening 03:51  |  Bob 13/09/09
      6.   Will You Partition Jerusalem? 03:52  |  Binyamin 13/09/09
      7.   "Terms Set" For Talks By Whom? 03:59  |  Jeff Northridge 13/09/09
      8.   What is EU and PA have no power over Israel. 04:33  |  Jason 13/09/09
      9.   Bibi also going to give the keys to his house to Hamas 04:47  |  Sam 13/09/09
      10.   A whiff of hypocrisy in the air 04:51  |  Morris Valentine 13/09/09
      11.   Sweet Dreams 05:12  |  Steve of Mevaserret 13/09/09
      12.   #7 Jeff, here is what the UNSC can do 05:20  |  Johnboy 13/09/09
      13.   gaza 05:37  |  vik 13/09/09
      14.   happy day! 05:43  |  Space 13/09/09
      15.   #7, Jeff Nothridge 05:45  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 13/09/09
      16.   #12, johnboy 05:59  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 13/09/09
      17.   Wow, Johnboy (#12), that`s quite the vivid imagination. 06:10  |  flyingdoc57 13/09/09
      18.   TO Jeff Northridge #7 06:13  |  Steve Beikirch 13/09/09
      19.   Wonderful because at minimum it will liquidate embedded settlemen 06:49  |  Ivar 13/09/09
      20.   Johnboy`s analysis has Cipora nervous... 06:56  |  BBSNews 13/09/09
      21.   Trouble ahead 07:07  |  Jasper 13/09/09
      22.   Know-It-All from College Station (#18) 07:07  |  Steve of Mevaserret 13/09/09
      23.   #16 Cipora 07:43  |  Space 13/09/09
      24.   Why waste time - Let them proclaim their state yesterday. 08:10  |  17 13/09/09
      25.   Any accomodation of peaceful coexistence must include: 08:18  |  Eitan 13/09/09
      26.   Palestinian to Venezuela 08:31  |  Pro Soldier 13/09/09
      27.   Jeff Northridge/Cipora Kohn - Whose Terms? 08:38  |  Mark of Lewiston 13/09/09
      28.   Renewal that word is so vague RIGHT ??? 08:44  |  M. S. 13/09/09
      29.   #21, Space 08:53  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 13/09/09
      30.   #27, Mark 08:59  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 13/09/09
      31.   pals return 09:05  |  Gili 13/09/09
      32.   recognizing Palestine 09:21  |  Palestinian 13/09/09
      33.   announcing an announcement 09:22  |  dyspeptic sceptic 13/09/09
      34.   #17 You read, but you don`t understand, flyingdoc57 09:23  |  Johnboy 13/09/09
      35.   #16 Pardon me, Cipora? 09:26  |  Johnboy 13/09/09
      36.   Eitan #25, your plan reminds me of one thing 09:27  |  ELIAS KHOURY 13/09/09
      37.   Time for Israel to say "NO" 09:41  |  IW 13/09/09
      38.   If true, then that is indeed a basis for starting negotiations... 09:46  |  Swiss (Dino) 13/09/09
      39.   #16 It makes no difference, Cipora. 09:47  |  Johnboy 13/09/09
      40.   I couldn`t have put it any better, Eitan 25. And I would consider 10:00  |  Yardenah 13/09/09
      41.   Spinning like an Iranian centrifuge 10:11  |  Realist 13/09/09
      42.   Ouch! 10:38  |  Joseph Conrad 13/09/09
      43.   two years? 11:30  |  Yaron 13/09/09
      44.   EU 11:36  |  shimi 13/09/09
      45.   this sounds as flawed as Oslo, w/the difference that - 12:19  |  ivo 13/09/09
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      47.   #6 14:19  |  Harold 13/09/09
      48.   Israel shoud: "Just say NO" 15:23  |  Nancy Reagan 13/09/09
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      50.   declaration of "Palestinian" state 16:59  |  Gavriela 13/09/09
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      52.   Correction to my post #35 18:51  |  ELIAS KHOURY 13/09/09
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      54.   Jews are not cuttles for sell ! 22:00  |  Akram Zekaria 13/09/09
      55.   Gaza, Israel and Jordan are Palestinian States 22:13  |  z, the monarchist 13/09/09
      56.   32~ palestinian "recognizing palestine" : 00:47  |  Akram Zekaria 14/09/09
      57.   Prime consideration 02:25  |  Jim 14/09/09
      58.   I`ll Believe It When I See It 03:01  |  Hugh 14/09/09
      59.   #49 Where you go wrong, Duncan 03:01  |  Johnboy 14/09/09
      60.   I`ll Believe It When I See It 03:03  |  Hugh 14/09/09
      61.   UN admission of Palestine alongside Israel 03:37  |  newageblues 14/09/09
      62.   #53, Ramzi Jaber, that was well said but would you let 03:51  |  newageblues 14/09/09
      63.   Ramzi Jaber`s Choices 04:01  |  Jasper 14/09/09
      64.   Early Recognition of Palestine 06:57  |  Reid 14/09/09
      65.   Johnboy - No one wants to isolate a suicidal nuclear power 07:34  |  Reid 14/09/09
      66.   Ramzi Jabar on the right track 07:58  |  Reid 14/09/09
      67.   ISRAEL WOULD BE WIZE 08:38  |  to beg Palistinians 14/09/09
      68.   newageblues #58: it changes nothing - 10:20  |  ivo 14/09/09
      69.   Jim #55: we`ve been here before - 10:33  |  ivo 14/09/09
      70.   Eitan 25 - You do not seem to realize the 12:09  |  r cummings 14/09/09
      71.   #49 Oh, no doubt Israel can do lots of things, duncan 16:37  |  Johnboy 14/09/09
      72.   # 49 duncan 20:56  |  Axel 14/09/09
      73.   #71 johnboy 22:24  |  duncan 14/09/09
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      75.   #1 johnboy 23:03  |  duncan 14/09/09
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