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Fatah: We'll sacrifice victims until Jerusalem is ours
By Haaretz Service and DPA
Tags: Jerusalem, Israel News, Fatah 

The status of Jerusalem as the future capital of a Palestinian state is a red line that no Palestinian leader is permitted to cross, President Mahmoud Abbas' ruling Fatah faction declared in the West Bank on Saturday.

According to Israel Radio, the Fatah general conference, which convened in Bethlehem for a three-day gathering, adopted a position paper which also states that the Palestinian national enterprise will not reach fruition until all of Jerusalem, including the outlying villages, come under Palestinian sovereignty.

Fatah, which rules the West Bank but was ousted from power in Gaza by the Islamist Hamas movement, also ruled out any interim agreements with Israel.
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"Fatah will continue to sacrifice victims until Jerusalem will be returned [to the Palestinians], clean of settlements and settlers," the paper states.

According to Israel Radio, the paper does not make a distinction between the eastern and western halves of the capital, nor does it distinguish between the territories within the Israeli side of the Green Line and the areas captured by Israel in the 1967 Six-Day War.

Abbas relected to lead Fatah
Mahmoud Abbas was re-elected on Saturday to lead Fatah by consensus at the party conference.

There was no vote taken because no other Fatah member challenged Abbas'
five-year rule of the party. Hundreds of delegates cheered and clapped as
Fatah leader Tayib Abdul Rahim announced that Abbas was chosen to lead the party.

Technically Abbas can only lead the party for five years, until a new
conference is announced, but this is the first time Fatah members have met in 20 years, so it isn't clear how long his mandate will last.

Also Saturday, Ahmed Qureia, also known as Abu Alla, told reporters that delegates meeting in Bethlehem would elect a new Central Committee and a Revolutionary Council on Sunday or Monday.

Qureia said the convention would hold the elections for both the Gaza Strip and the West Bank at the same time, adding that "some Gaza members will contest the elections."

He said the modalities of the election were still under discussion. Changes to Fatah's platform were being discussed during Saturday's sessions, he said.

Abbas Zaki, a Fatah representative from Lebanon said "100 candidates are running for membership of the Central Committee and 646 for the Revolutionary Council.

Voting by the some 2,500 delegates for the 18-member Central Committee, and 120-member Revolutionary Council had originally been expected to start on Saturday morning.

The convention is meeting for the first time in 20 years to elect a new leadership for the organization founded by Yasser Arafat.

However, Fatah rival Hamas, which has ruled the Gaza Strip since June 2007, banned scores of Fatah members there from traveling to the West Bank to attend the gathering.

On Friday, Central Committee member Nabil Shaath announced an agreement reached with the convention's leadership that would allow Gaza delegates to vote by telephone.

Fatah said in a statement that Hamas security forces had placed several Gaza convention delegates under house arrest and prevented them from leaving their homes.

It said that on Friday and Saturday, Hamas security personnel detained several Fatah leaders for questioning before releasing them. Hamas Interior Ministry spokesman Ihab al-Ghussein denied there were any detentions.

U.S. to demand Israel, Palestinian deal with borders

The U.S. administration will demand that Israel and the Palestinians address the issue of borders as the first step in the Middle East peace plan, senior Palestinian officials said Thursday.

Defense Minister Ehud Barak said Wednesday that Washington will present its new plan for a comprehensive Middle East peace soon.

The Americans will also outline proposals for an Israeli peace with Syria and Lebanon, the Palestinian officials said Thursday.

The American plan will not specify step-by-step actions for an Israeli-Palestinian solution, but will address final status issues - borders, Jerusalem and refugees.

The Americans will set a timetable of about a year and a half for the negotiations and demand the sides first solve the border issue, under the belief that this will lead to solutions for other issues, such as the settlements and water. After that the sides will discuss the other fundamental issues - Jerusalem and the refugees.

The negotiations between the Israelis and the Palestinians probably will be conducted in the presence of American officials, the sources said. The American administration is likely to present its plan before or during the UN General Assembly set for September.

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      1.   Ha`aretz editor: "Israel DOES have a peace partner!" 13:38  |  Steve 08/08/09
      2.   proof 13:47  |  John 08/08/09
      3.   Let`s be exact and not make sweeping statements... 13:58  |  Esther 08/08/09
      4.   Incapable of compromise and capable of terror 14:00  |  Avi 08/08/09
      5.   No difference btwn Fatah and Hamas 14:03  |  Avi 08/08/09
      6.   "clean of settlers" 14:09  |  Niv 08/08/09
      7.   So there will never be peace 14:23  |  Gershon Reed 08/08/09
      8.   A challenge to BBS, BDS, Johnboy, CJ, etc etc etc 14:30  |  The Prophet 08/08/09
      9.   Forgetaboutit 14:38  |  JC 08/08/09
      10.   Having it all 14:40  |  sharon 08/08/09
      11.   Muslim obsession to own historical places of other people 14:50  |  Meo 08/08/09
      12.   All of Jerusalem, what about Amman as well. 14:58  |  Stephen. 08/08/09
      13.   Palestine a castle in a dream ! 15:13  |  Akram Zekaria 08/08/09
      14.   This comes one day after... 15:27  |  Walter 08/08/09
      15.   To Esther 15:36  |  Ed 08/08/09
      16.   Jerusalem 15:45  |  Shmuelshachor 08/08/09
      17.   Palestinians Never Learn, Just Sacrifice more Children 15:45  |  jerry jerusalem 08/08/09
      18.   U.S. keep out 15:45  |  howiej 08/08/09
      19.   Time for the Israeli Left to eat their hat ! 15:46  |  Akram Zekaria 08/08/09
      20.   Fatah`s boast- again 15:47  |  DT 08/08/09
      21.   to Ed from Geneva 16:12  |  Dan 08/08/09
      22.   Avi #4 16:15  |  JD 08/08/09
      23.   Fatah response insures Israels hold on Jerusalem 16:25  |  Alfredo 08/08/09
      24.   Pals want Judenrein Jerusalem 16:36  |  Richard S 08/08/09
      25.   Fatah:We`ll sacrifice the youth till they r dead 16:37  |  The Teacher/Instruct 08/08/09
      26.   Niv #6. Israel`s right-wing provocateurs who demand a virtually 16:40  |  Esther 08/08/09
      27.   Sacrifice Fatah! 16:44  |  Haaretz Fan 08/08/09
      28.   Ed, do you own an atlas? 16:45  |  Tzfonit 08/08/09
      29.   Posturing or real bottom line? 16:49  |  bronxite10 08/08/09
      30.   "We`ll sacrifice." Who will those bictims be? 16:49  |  Tzfonit 08/08/09
      31.   Time to drop Abbas-Fatah as a `partner`.. 16:50  |  Akram Zekaria 08/08/09
      32.   Return All of Jerusalem 16:50  |  Raffi 08/08/09
      33.   #3 Esther - Can`t you read? 16:51  |  Yonatan 08/08/09
      34.   Ed re Esther 16:51  |  ZISD 08/08/09
      35.   Fatah: We will never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. 16:52  |  flyingdoc57 08/08/09
      36.   All of Jerusalem: everyone`s position, isn`t it? 16:52  |  EGB 08/08/09
      37.   To Dan 17:01  |  Ed 08/08/09
      38.   #22 JD from hicktown South Dakota 17:01  |  Yonatan 08/08/09
      39.   Posturing 17:04  |  Leo 08/08/09
      40.   Time for Jews-&-Israel to do a serious thinking ... 17:04  |  Akram Zekaria 08/08/09
      41.   Jerusalem--what they mean 17:11  |  Raanan Geberer 08/08/09
      42.   Fatah & Abbas 17:13  |  Lola 08/08/09
      43.   Israelis deserve this-they`ve begged for this 17:13  |  Mark 08/08/09
      44.   jerusalem 17:14  |  mma 08/08/09
      45.   to #1 Steve 17:14  |  Cartman 08/08/09
      46.   Same old, Same old 17:16  |  Peace Games 08/08/09
      47.   Why do we waste our time... 17:17  |  Aish 08/08/09
      48.   Feed the Beast 17:17  |  Jane 08/08/09
      49.   ZISD #34: Correction 17:18  |  Steve 08/08/09
      50.   After reading this 17:21  |  Jennifer 08/08/09
      51.   Palestinians are their own worst enemy 17:22  |  Mark Jeffery Koch 08/08/09
      52.   Hey Ed in Switzerland 17:27  |  Jennifer 08/08/09
      53.   Ed #34... having lived, studied, worked in J`lem for 50yrs... 17:29  |  Esther 08/08/09
      54.   Rest assured 17:30  |  Arie 08/08/09
      55.   To jerry jerusalem 17:40  |  sharon 08/08/09
      56.   #19 17:47  |  sharon 08/08/09
      57.   jerusalem 17:47  |  ernie 08/08/09
      58.   Boisterous Fatah Leaders Bow Out of Personal Sacrifice Yet Again 17:48  |  Lavi 08/08/09
      59.   O.K. BSNews. The article`s been up for a while. Time to add fuel 17:56  |  flyingdoc57 08/08/09
      60.   "to sacrifice victims" means "to arrange terror attacks". What is 17:59  |  Vittorio 08/08/09
      61.   Obama declared that Jersualem remains undivided capital of Israel 18:05  |  r 08/08/09
      62.   to #52 18:09  |  David 08/08/09
      63.   53-Esther "there is no down to earth" with the Palestinians.. 18:30  |  Akram Zekaria 08/08/09
      64.   FlyingDoc #59 18:37  |  Steve of Mevaserret 08/08/09
      65.   Brothers and sisters. What I didn`t say. 18:49  |  H 08/08/09
      66.   Ed Ed, Ed 18:50  |  Dan 08/08/09
      67.   A thoroughly discredited Obama now owes Israel a public apology! 18:56  |  Dr. L. Brnd 08/08/09
      68.   62. Well you do have Iran , saudi arabia, N korea 19:00  |  Simon 08/08/09
      69.   Fig-leaf Filastin 19:01  |  Morris Valentine 08/08/09
      70.   Jerusalem 19:10  |  Vladislav Sandler 08/08/09
      71.   To Steve of Mevaserret Zion (# 64). Thanks for the support. 19:12  |  flyingdoc57 08/08/09
      72.   #2 proof you`re wrong. 19:13  |  Yasir 08/08/09
      73.   What`s another 50 years? 19:15  |  dyinglikeflies 08/08/09
      74.   Jew free Jerusalem 19:23  |  Halster 08/08/09
      75.   There we go: complete accord 19:24  |  Colin Wright 08/08/09
      76.   Inviting compromise 19:27  |  Adam 08/08/09
      77.   #62 David 19:35  |  Jennifer 08/08/09
      78.   #57 Ernie, just for the correctness, instead 19:37  |  Ardi 08/08/09
      79.   re: #50/Jennifer 19:37  |  EGB 08/08/09
      80.   See how far the Pals have come in 60 years 19:39  |  Joe Frazier 08/08/09
      81.   A challenge to BBS, BDS, Johnboy, CJ, etc etc etc 19:59  |  *BEN JABO 08/08/09
      82.   #33 Yonatan 20:03  |  JD 08/08/09
      83.   Jerusalem: 2 capitals for 2 countries--all else is schtick 20:06  |  Dolphin 08/08/09
      84.   ?Palestinian? interest in the Temple Mount starts in 1967. 20:07  |  B. Gold 08/08/09
      85.   #38 What has the EU Definition of antisemitism 20:07  |  Ardi 08/08/09
      86.   RE: 34 - ZISD - You`re Wrong 20:32  |  Eli Wapniarski 08/08/09
      87.   what peace? 20:34  |  Cesare 08/08/09
      88.   dont cry afterwards over these victims 20:37  |  vik 08/08/09
      89.   to 55 and others, kids are the future 20:38  |  Jerry jerusalem 08/08/09
      90.   Decleration of War 20:44  |  Jason 08/08/09
      91.   Fatah: Go sacrifice yourselves. 20:47  |  Poma 08/08/09
      92.   Obama anti Israel & love arab policies are backfiring 20:50  |  zionist forever 08/08/09
      93.   Isnt this the position Israel is taking? 20:54  |  Dave Duncan 08/08/09
      94.   Akram#63... some good Jews are as misled and pig-headed... 20:57  |  Esther 08/08/09
      95.   Yipee! 20:58  |  cooper 08/08/09
      96.   Talking Mr. Ed 21:22  |  Ki`emli 08/08/09
      97.   PA TV Celebrates Most Murderous Terror Attack in Israeli History 21:22  |  David Kelso 08/08/09
      98.   When will Israel allow Palestine to exist. J`lem is Pals Capital! 21:25  |  Toronto 08/08/09
      99.   It is just propaganda, the next elections... 21:26  |  Fritz Teich 08/08/09
      100.   I think that I figured out the Palestinian strategy 21:32  |  Ki`emli 08/08/09
      101.   73-Esther 21:36  |  Akram Zekaria 08/08/09
      102.   Esther, isn`t Nicosia enough for you? 21:56  |  Zev Davis 08/08/09
      103.   Where ARE you Obama!!!! 21:59  |  marat 08/08/09
      104.   #68 Jerry Jerusalem 22:16  |  sharon 08/08/09
      105.   When will Haaretz admit that ALL of Fatah is a `faction`? 22:18  |  steve from Raleigh 08/08/09
      106.   Fatah 22:22  |  Josiah J. Ben David 08/08/09
      107.   Esther (#73). It takes a sick mind to write what you wrote. 22:25  |  flyingdoc57 08/08/09
      108.   East and West Jerusalem? 22:37  |  Paul Freedman 08/08/09
      109.   Arabs try to steal Jerusalem again. Just say no 22:41  |  David 08/08/09
      110.   He is starting out form the same position as Nutty yahoo 23:19  |  Labhras 08/08/09
      111.   Terror is in the eye of the beholder. 23:32  |  GG 08/08/09
      112.   Pals aren`t mature to have a statehood. If inseveral months HAMAS 23:35  |  Vittorio 08/08/09
      113.   Cowards 00:07  |  Good 09/08/09
      114.   Splitting a tiny city into capitals of 2 States 00:15  |  ZISD 09/08/09
      115.   # 28 - Zfonit 00:56  |  Morag 09/08/09
      116.   Goodbye Future Islamic Republic Of Palestine (IRP) 01:19  |  Jeff Northridge 09/08/09
      117.   history has proven 01:43  |  wheather arab or jew 09/08/09
      118.   Under International Law - Israel has no right to Jeruselem 01:49  |  Marc Leb 09/08/09
      119.   Just like Israel. 02:00  |  Ryan 09/08/09
      120.   Fatah`s sacrifice 02:03  |  Josiah J. Ben David 09/08/09
      121.   re: #92/Zionist forever 02:34  |  EGB 09/08/09
      122.   This has nothing to do with Jerusalem 03:03  |  Arie 09/08/09
      123.   Yep, they are real partners in peace alright. Sheesh 03:12  |  Not stupid 09/08/09
      124.   Realpolitic to Ed 03:15  |  Nevada_len, South Fl 09/08/09
      125.   And they wonder why no one cares they`re still stateless 03:56  |  Gina 09/08/09
      126.   #107 flyingdoc57.... re : Esther 04:18  |  allang 09/08/09
      127.   Esther you do indeed redeem my faith that there... 04:46  |  BBSNews 09/08/09
      128.   #118..allang 04:55  |  Malone 09/08/09
      129.   Israel most stand up for her self 05:23  |  Jason 09/08/09
      130.   To allang (# 118). Re: Esther 06:05  |  flyingdoc57 09/08/09
      131.   No return to Auschwitz Borders 06:07  |  Shtarka 09/08/09
      132.   Brilliant public relations move.... 09:26  |  Chappaqua neighbor 09/08/09
      133.   Palastinian State Jericho Capital 12:43  |  Alfred 09/08/09
      134.   "prophet" - all of the stolen land goes back... 15:16  |  BBSNews 09/08/09
      135.   Ping-pong withJerusalem? Not a thread I want to be in... 15:41  |  S 09/08/09
      136.   #15 - Ed 17:36  |  Deborah 09/08/09
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