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Last update - 14:31 08/03/2009
U.S. turns up heat on Israel over settlements
By Barak Ravid, Haaretz Correspondent
Tags: Barack Obama, Israel News 

Israel is under increased pressure from the United States over settlement construction. In the past month, since Barack Obama was sworn in as U.S. president, Israel has received four official complaints from members of the new administration regarding various issues linked to West Bank settlements.

A senior government official in Jerusalem told Haaretz that the complaints represent a gradual increase in American pressure vis-a-vis settlement activity. "This is going to be one of the main issues that the Obama administration will be dealing with in the coming weeks and months," the official said. "It is not going to be easy to argue with them."


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he American complaints were relayed to Jerusalem via senior officials in the State Department as well as the National Security Council, which seek clarifications and explanations from Israel.

The four separate complaints relate to the demolition of Palestinian-owned homes in East Jerusalem, reports of Israeli plans to construct additional housing in the E1 area, between Maaleh Adumim and Jerusalem, the relocation of the illegal outpost at Migron to a new, as-yet unbuilt neighborhood of the Adam settlement and to plans to build thousands of new residential units in the settlement of Efrat.

"Thus far," the Israeli official said, "the issue has been raised by senior officials, but it is going to go higher up the hierarchy. It is a safe bet that special envoy George Mitchell will raise the matter when he makes his next visit to the Middle East in a few weeks, after the Netanyahu government is sworn in."

There was an additional embarrassing incident between Jerusalem and Washington over the weekend, against the backdrop of comments by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton against the demolition of Arab homes in East Jerusalem. Clinton said during her visit to Ramallah that house demolitions "do not help the peace process" and violate the spirit of the road map.

Jerusalem Mayor Nir Barkat responded by briefing foreign correspondents. According to the Washington Post, Barkat described Clinton's comments as "a lot of air" and claimed that Clinton had been misled by the Palestinians. "I totally reject the criticism," Barkat said. "It is a lot of air. There is no substance. Maybe it is because there is a new administration in the States. I am not willing to say the houses will remain houses. It is the wrong signal to send to people who break the law," he added.

In response to Barkat's criticism, the U.S. Embassy in Tel Aviv and sources close to Clinton were quick to relay strongly-worded protests to the Prime Minister's Office; they described Barkat's comments as "an insult" to the Secretary of State. On Friday afternoon, in a highly unusual step, the PMO issued a clarification in which Barkat claimed that his comments were taken out of context and that the articles in the U.S. press were 'inaccurate and incorrect."

According to the Prime Minister's Office, Barkat even claimed that his comments were not directed at Clinton but rather at the false Palestinian arguments. "We regret any implication that Secretary of State Clinton was in any way being criticized," read the statement. Clinton met briefly with Barkat during her visit to Israel last week, despite her aides' concerns that meeting with him could land her in hot water because of the disputed status of Jerusalem.

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      1.   Don`t listen to the US 01:29  |  Texan 08/03/09
      2.   don`t pay any attention to him, he is anti-semitic 01:40  |  david 08/03/09
      3.   Words are good, but they are also cheap..... 01:42  |  Swiss (Dino) 08/03/09
      4.   Israel answers only to ------NO ONE 01:56  |  JR 08/03/09
      5.   anything fair is against the interest of Israel 02:07  |  pm99 08/03/09
      6.   Re: Don`t listen to the US Name by Texan 02:11  |  Tom 08/03/09
      7.   Settlement activity 02:38  |  Yaakov 08/03/09
      8.   Better kiss off that 3 billion in social welfare--for starters. 02:45  |  Labhras 08/03/09
      9.   No problem you can complain but Israel will build it, 02:50  |  e.m Jordan is Palse 08/03/09
      10.   Obama IS NOT pro Isarel......Don`t get fooled 02:51  |  Davey Crockett 08/03/09
      11.   Don`t listen to USA but continue to take their $$ 02:59  |  Igor 08/03/09
      12.   Texan (1), How old are you? 03:01  |  Magnus K. 08/03/09
      13.   To Swiss (bigot # 3)...A bonafide expert on cheap talk. 03:02  |  flyingdoc57 08/03/09
      14.   Time for an amicable divorce, no alimony 03:03  |  Hanna 08/03/09
      15.   It`s for the best 03:04  |  Simha 08/03/09
      16.   I wonder what is going on behind the scenes 03:12  |  FK 08/03/09
      17.   # 9 03:15  |  Axel 08/03/09
      18.   Defiance 03:22  |  Joan 08/03/09
      19.   Obama IS NOT pro Israel......Don`t get fooled 03:29  |  `Doc` Holiday 08/03/09
      20.   re: Igor 03:31  |  UsedToPostHere 08/03/09
      21.   Did I Not Say So? 03:32  |  crlman 08/03/09
      22.   re: Hanna 03:32  |  UsedToPostHere 08/03/09
      23.   Sorry for the US 03:40  |  Jill 08/03/09
      24.   us president 03:42  |  chris scott 08/03/09
      25.   US and settlements 03:45  |  Clausewitz 08/03/09
      26.   If Israel wants to be part of UN 03:48  |  N. Pressimone 08/03/09
      27.   Don`t worry Israelis: Talk is cheap... 03:58  |  peacelover 08/03/09
      28.   Igor...who are earning a lot of money in the USA 04:03  |  MMM 08/03/09
      29.   Israel 04:08  |  Ed 08/03/09
      30.   Israel was never told illegal means no 04:11  |  Barbero 08/03/09
      31.   w/o the USA the zio state wont last a day 04:18  |  listen up 08/03/09
      32.   #2 david and the President? 04:23  |  maoriboy 08/03/09
      33.   This is the one thing which can really hurt relations 04:31  |  Morris Valentine 08/03/09
      34.   Divorce - Yes! 04:34  |  Mark 08/03/09
      35.   to #2 04:35  |  Matt 08/03/09
      36.   david As it should be 04:36  |  American in NY 08/03/09
      37.   Homes Are Good For Peace 04:38  |  Baruch Gold 08/03/09
      38.   Texan, you`re right. 04:47  |  Student 08/03/09
      39.   Could more settlements eventually force Israel to ...? 04:48  |  Samuel Prime 08/03/09
      40.   Don`t listen to American Republicans 04:56  |  Ty 08/03/09
      41.   PEOPLE LOST HOMES IN USA, BUT IN ISRAEL... 04:58  |  indrajaya 08/03/09
      42.   #6 #12 04:58  |  Texan 08/03/09
      43.   Jokers like #1 Texan posting all over US forums 05:01  |  newageblues 08/03/09
      44.   US AID $ 05:12  |  Texan 08/03/09
      45.   Stop Building in Occupied Mexico 05:12  |  Baruch Gold 08/03/09
      46.   re: Could more settlements eventually force Israel to ...? 05:12  |  Mark 08/03/09
      47.   oh yes all that money from the US, well not so much.... 05:14  |  Paul Freedman 08/03/09
      48.   #33, Samuel Prime, a lot of people think ... 05:23  |  newageblues 08/03/09
      49.   Unless we close the purse strings--- 05:38  |  American 08/03/09
      50.   Continue Ayosh construction 05:43  |  Chaim Aschlocher 08/03/09
      51.   #42 It`s completely absurd 05:44  |  kibblets 08/03/09
      52.   Stop pressuring Israel 05:45  |  Darryl 08/03/09
      53.   re #2 05:50  |  Colin Wright 08/03/09
      54.   Clinton 05:58  |  Robert 08/03/09
      55.   Israeli/Palestinian and American demographics 06:08  |  D.P. 08/03/09
      56.   What IF 06:16  |  Mark Lincoln 08/03/09
      57.   indrajaya 06:17  |  Texan 08/03/09
      58.   Baruch Gold @42 06:17  |  Hugh Slaman 08/03/09
      59.   I am with Texan 06:19  |  Eli 08/03/09
      60.   What can Uncle Sugar Do? 06:20  |  Mark Lincoln 08/03/09
      61.   #34 Homes ARE good for peace, totally agree! 06:21  |  hala 08/03/09
      62.   Re: #42 "occupied Mexico" 06:23  |  David 08/03/09
      63.   Time some one turn the heat on the Palestinians ! 06:26  |  Akram Zekaria 08/03/09
      64.   Obama will only last 4 years 06:26  |  Chiribim 08/03/09
      65.   There is no other nation in the world 06:29  |  Mark Lincoln 08/03/09
      66.   Newageblues - `With the Terrorists?` 06:37  |  Mark of Lewiston 08/03/09
      67.   One good turn deserves another 06:43  |  Mark 08/03/09
      68.   Wrong signal 06:51  |  John 08/03/09
      69.   America`s Best Interests are a Secure Israel, Obama`s straying 06:51  |  david 08/03/09
      70.   Time to realize: The Fatah Charter that calls for the elimination 06:54  |  Jehudah Ben-Israel 08/03/09
      71.   Israel ilegal settlements. 06:55  |  Maria Gonzales 08/03/09
      72.   And Lieberman`s going to be foreign minister... 06:56  |  Colin Wright 08/03/09
      73.   #53 David re #42 "occupied Mexico" 06:58  |  hala 08/03/09
      74.   Complaints 07:03  |  Anthony 08/03/09
      75.   #42 lost it 07:05  |  HH 08/03/09
      76.   If You`re Going To Freeze `Em, Then Freeze `Em All 07:07  |  Jeff Northridge 08/03/09
      77.   Right 07:07  |  John 08/03/09
      78.   Iran the threat? 07:19  |  John 08/03/09
      79.   WAS THE HOUSE OF RABIN`S ASSASSIN DESTROYED ? 07:20  |  facts 08/03/09
      80.   #62 Mark of Lewiston, very funny but on second thought 07:22  |  Mark B. 08/03/09
      81.   shameful 07:24  |  mike 08/03/09
      82.   Every single inch of land west of the Jordan belongs to the jews. 07:29  |  Yisrael Yitchock 08/03/09
      83.   #72, hey Jeff 07:33  |  jake 08/03/09
      84.   re baruch gold #42 07:33  |  billy jack 08/03/09
      85.   #55 Eli, as an outsider I see the Confederation once again lost 07:37  |  Mark B. 08/03/09
      86.   61~ Mark Lincoln Addicted in blaming Israel ! 07:39  |  Akram Zekaria 08/03/09
      87.   Let`s wait and see 07:40  |  rm 08/03/09
      88.   worry about the heat coming from syria 07:43  |  Mark 08/03/09
      89.   oh right ofcourse 07:43  |  rm 08/03/09
      90.   Mark Lincoln, dependence on saudi oil 07:46  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 08/03/09
      91.   #30, Morris Valentine 08:03  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 08/03/09
      92.   The settlements. 08:10  |  Jean Van Daem 08/03/09
      93.   #55 and #59 Hugh and Hala 08:13  |  Baruch Gold 08/03/09
      94.   To hell with Obama, we will conrinue to build on our land. 08:15  |  Wise Saba 08/03/09
      95.   # 73 hey jeff...lol... 08:18  |  eric 08/03/09
      96.   Texan # 1 08:18  |  Al 08/03/09
      97.   #62 Mark Lincoln on Saudi OIL and Israel 08:20  |  Mark B. 08/03/09
      98.   #79 is a racist comment 08:20  |  David 08/03/09
      99.   #81, #59 Billy Jack and David 08:22  |  Baruch Gold 08/03/09
      100.   # 48 hey kibblets; consider this... 08:23  |  eric 08/03/09
      101.   I agree Jeff 08:24  |  rm 08/03/09
      102.   # 10 hey texican 08:29  |  eric 08/03/09
      103.   #8 labarse of arabia and the irish lack of an economy 08:37  |  v hardman 08/03/09
      104.   # 25 to mmm re: who`s making the money 09:07  |  eric 08/03/09
      105.   To Russian drunk Igor #11 09:09  |  Tumbalalaike 08/03/09
      106.   David - he`s the President of the US, not Israel! 09:15  |  Palestinian Brit 08/03/09
      107.   Only difference between BHO & GWB - BHO can finish his sentences. 09:15  |  common sense 08/03/09
      108.   Baruch Gold - don`t you mean.... 09:17  |  Palestinian Brit 08/03/09
      109.   Jeff - why so selective? 09:21  |  Palestinian Brit 08/03/09
      110.   Hey Zionists!! You Ain`t Seen Nothin` Yet!! 09:22  |  chet 08/03/09
      111.   this stance by the united states is LONG overdue! 09:27  |  eric 08/03/09
      112.   OBAMA IS NOT AN AMERICAN CITIZEN = NOT THE PRESIDENT! 09:34  |  US Marine 08/03/09
      113.   G-d will turn up the heat on Obama Hussein until he pops! 09:34  |  You have been warned 08/03/09
      114.   Proof that The Israeli Electorate threw Kadima OUT at right time 09:36  |  EL 08/03/09
      115.   #27 so true 10:00  |  arik 08/03/09
      116.   Barkat was right the first time. Wrong to apologize. 10:06  |  Raymond in DC 08/03/09
      117.   Palestinians love Israelis, Americans and Europeans 10:11  |  Mo 08/03/09
      118.   very good. 10:13  |  Chris 08/03/09
      119.   98 Baruch Gold and Eastern Israel 10:14  |  Ardi 08/03/09
      120.   Israel needs to stop settlement expansion 10:15  |  Jay 08/03/09
      121.   #47 Paul Freedman 10:20  |  Jim 08/03/09
      122.   Here is the solution 10:23  |  Palestinian 08/03/09
      123.   #13 flyingdoc57 10:26  |  alan 08/03/09
      124.   Where`s George W.Bush when Israel needs him? 10:27  |  Clickfool 08/03/09
      125.   For David # 2 10:30  |  Clickfool 08/03/09
      126.   Good Jazz cigarettes, hey, Baruch Gold? #37 10:33  |  Clickfool 08/03/09
      127.   Why be silent about Fatah`s Charter...?? 10:34  |  Jehudah Ben-Israel 08/03/09
      128.   It`s worse than that, David in Boston # 62 10:39  |  Clickfool 08/03/09
      129.   A suggestion for "US Marine" # 112 10:41  |  Clickfool 08/03/09
      130.   #52 Darryl 10:43  |  Jim 08/03/09
      131.   It won`t matter for decades 10:47  |  Yamin Salahi 08/03/09
      132.   Setlements 10:48  |  Achcar 08/03/09
      133.   Palestinian # 122, your solution?? 10:59  |  Westwell 08/03/09
      134.   #70 Jehudah Ben-Israel 11:06  |  Jim 08/03/09
      135.   #82 Yisrael Yitchock 11:20  |  Jim 08/03/09
      136.   Hurtful US laissez faire towards Israel?s Settlements Enterprise 11:24  |  Ivar 08/03/09
      137.   #94 Wise Saba 11:31  |  Jim 08/03/09
      138.   common sense 11:32  |  pierre C 08/03/09
      139.   My "Jewishness" is born from the fact.. 11:33  |  H 08/03/09
      140.   Cipora #91 11:41  |  S 08/03/09
      141.   #114 EL 11:50  |  Jim 08/03/09
      142.   Jeff Northridge same old bla bla bleat. 11:56  |  Labhras 08/03/09
      143.   Hang in there Israel, he`s a one term president at most. 12:00  |  Nechama 08/03/09
      144.   Turning up heat is necessary unfortunately 12:00  |  Leon Blaustein 08/03/09
      145.   Reject the signals? Yes, I agree. 12:11  |  Johnboy 08/03/09
      146.   SETTLEMENTS 12:12  |  zoe 08/03/09
      147.   #140 S 12:13  |  Jim 08/03/09
      148.   Don`t worry about America 12:15  |  Nechama 08/03/09
      149.   #45 Baruch Gold 12:30  |  Pro Peace 08/03/09
      150.   #76 Jeff waves his magic wand. 12:31  |  Johnboy 08/03/09
      151.   #139 "My Jewishness..." 12:31  |  Nechama 08/03/09
      152.   to H 12:34  |  rm 08/03/09
      153.   U.S.: First,remove your illegal settlements on the Indian land! 12:35  |  Goose 08/03/09
      154.   Friends sometimes disagree. 12:47  |  17 08/03/09
      155.   obama and israel 13:11  |  bobbyg 08/03/09
      156.   Goose #153: We let all the native Americans vote. 13:32  |  Hanna 08/03/09
      157.   #151 Nechama 13:38  |  H 08/03/09
      158.   Barak Hussein Obama`s 13:56  |  Chris Linthwaite 08/03/09
      159.   #41 Indrajaya 14:01  |  yomama 08/03/09
      160.   Hebron belongs to Jews? 14:18  |  Manelarab 08/03/09
      161.   The replies on this post from pro-Israels 14:35  |  Mandelarab 08/03/09
      162.   Testing the waters 14:45  |  Zev 08/03/09
      163.   Palestinian Brit # 109 Not All Of It Is In Dispute 14:49  |  Jeff Northridge 08/03/09
      164.   S #140 14:55  |  Esther 08/03/09
      165.   Barkat is Full of HOT air 16:49  |  Shelly 08/03/09
      166.   We are not friends of Israel Anymore 16:51  |  S. THomas 08/03/09
      167.   to Baruch Gold #45 16:57  |  zeev 08/03/09
      168.   Washington has no choice. 16:57  |  Stephen. 08/03/09
      169.   To CJK (#91) 17:09  |  Morris Valentine 08/03/09
      170.   JEWISH REFUGEES Must be Compensated in LAND & Finances 17:13  |  Linda Rivera 08/03/09
      171.   Eric of NM ...offended because it`s true 17:15  |  Maria 08/03/09
      172.   Question: What the US owns to Israel to give it billions ? 17:16  |  Serenity 08/03/09
      173.   Labhras # 142 They Are Not Mutually Exclusive 17:18  |  Jeff Northridge 08/03/09
      174.   Manelarab...Hebron was given to Caleb 17:20  |  Maria 08/03/09
      175.   Barkat must Speak up for Israel & the FREE WORLD 17:20  |  Linda Rivera 08/03/09
      176.   To 17, re friends disagreeing (#154) 17:21  |  Morris Valentine 08/03/09
      177.   Yo Texan #44 17:22  |  Persian Kitty 08/03/09
      178.   #28 Um..Yes MMM right on the button.. 17:35  |  Josh 08/03/09
      179.   Obama does not have Israel`s best interest at heart 17:39  |  Saad Khatib 08/03/09
      180.   #64 Chiribim..Obama will only last 4 years..IF at the.. 17:53  |  Josh 08/03/09
      181.   President of whom and where 17:55  |  Harry 08/03/09
      182.   Texan 17:57  |  Jo 08/03/09
      183.   US has its own problems to deal with 18:03  |  Daniel 08/03/09
      184.   U.S. turns up heat on Israel over settlements 18:16  |  Neil 08/03/09
      185.   # 33 Morris Valentine Los Angeles 18:25  |  Juan Pico 08/03/09
      186.   To Baruch Gold #93 18:25  |  D.P. 08/03/09
      187.   to CJ Kohn #91 18:28  |  zeev 08/03/09
      188.   The United States 18:28  |  Chris Linthwaite 08/03/09
      189.   To Baruch Gold, #93 18:33  |  D.P. 08/03/09
      190.   #103 V hardman aka Paul Harris --Irish economy 18:49  |  Labhras 08/03/09
      191.   Israel and land grabs 19:03  |  Frances Greenfield 08/03/09
      192.   Heat over nothing 19:17  |  Brod 08/03/09
      193.   shocked 19:21  |  yuval 08/03/09
      194.   Words will not be enough 19:29  |  Janice 08/03/09
      195.   #1 Jew hating cabinet? 19:34  |  Janice 08/03/09
      196.   #15 19:37  |  Lavrentii 08/03/09
      197.   To #112 19:43  |  liam 08/03/09
      198.   Texan # you are ignorant of the facts 19:47  |  American in NY 08/03/09
      199.   Brod for the 100th time it is not Israel,s land 19:55  |  Labhras 08/03/09
      200.   182 - I agree 19:56  |  Ty 08/03/09
      201.   # 1Texam People such as you give the US such a bad reputation 19:57  |  Sarah 08/03/09
      202.   US interest in the illegal settlments 19:59  |  John Crow 08/03/09
      203.   Settlements:Legal or Not 20:16  |  Moshe 08/03/09
      204.   to Palestinian #122 - Here is the answer (2nd try) 20:24  |  zeev 08/03/09
      205.   Labhras #188 20:25  |  Brod 08/03/09
      206.   #173 Neil Spot on..And Your comments: 20:25  |  Josh 08/03/09
      207.   Settlements:Legal or Not 20:29  |  Moshe 08/03/09
      208.   #184 Dear Janice.About all those Jews you mentioned: 20:31  |  Josh 08/03/09
      209.   #189 and #182 20:36  |  Tyra 08/03/09
      210.   #172 Morris Valentine 21:03  |  Daybreak 08/03/09
      211.   Palestinians and peace 21:21  |  David Negev 08/03/09
      212.   # 209 Tyra, The real reason why you and your fellow 21:23  |  Sarah 08/03/09
      213.   #176 Morris Valentine..I suggest you read "Daybreak" on this.. 21:28  |  Josh 08/03/09
      214.   to Brod #205 - right you are 21:36  |  zeev 08/03/09
      215.   #202 John Crow..my how you in reality crow like.. 21:39  |  Josh 08/03/09
      216.   Isreal aid..bye bye 21:48  |  Basel 08/03/09
      217.   Settlements 21:52  |  Joe Kerr 08/03/09
      218.   Maria 21:53  |  Janice 08/03/09
      219.   # 190 Labrhas....300 pound bomb 21:58  |  Lynn 08/03/09
      220.   Janice...quotes Hamas word for word 21:59  |  Lynn 08/03/09
      221.   Labhras # 199 The IHCJ 22:19  |  Jeff Northridge 08/03/09
      222.   Lynn on voting 22:19  |  Janice 08/03/09
      223.   Too late... it is done! 23:43  |  Murat 08/03/09
      224.   Jeff wake up. 23:45  |  Labhras 08/03/09
      225.   no problem now.hope aircondition on may 1st. 00:00  |  barkat caravan 09/03/09
      226.   #212 00:05  |  Tyra 09/03/09
      227.   #VPaulHardmanHarris. Perhaps you shouls resort to caps lock. 00:07  |  Maureen Ann 09/03/09
      228.   MV #169 00:22  |  Esther 09/03/09
      229.   #163 Jeff Northridge attempts to be *reasonable*!!! 00:58  |  Johnboy 09/03/09
      230.   to David Negev #211 01:05  |  zeev 09/03/09
      231.   The average American Joe is less fearful than Israel leaders 01:13  |  u need gumption 09/03/09
      232.   #210 Daybreak 01:15  |  Johnboy 09/03/09
      233.   Go west young man was the U.S. call back then 01:15  |  Say sorry 09/03/09
      234.   #173 Jeff Northridge tries a sleight-of-hand. 01:28  |  Johnboy 09/03/09
      235.   To Juan Pico (#185): Backward view 01:41  |  Morris Valentine 09/03/09
      236.   US Responce 03:01  |  Kenneth Hougland 09/03/09
      237.   settlements? 03:15  |  max 09/03/09
      238.   #182 and #189 - Sorry, I did not mean you two 03:31  |  Tyra 09/03/09
      239.   time to increase heat on the US for the settling Mexico 03:32  |  z, the monarchist 09/03/09
      240.   Hanna (#156) makes a great point 03:35  |  David 09/03/09
      241.   RIGHT ON #98 03:41  |  CryingforPals 09/03/09
      242.   Cipora Koghn # 91 03:43  |  American in NY 09/03/09
      243.   "No such people as the Palestinians" 03:49  |  David 09/03/09
      244.   #228 Johnboy 04:11  |  Moshe 09/03/09
      245.   #228 Johnboy 04:26  |  Moshe 09/03/09
      246.   3 things to do 04:41  |  david 09/03/09
      247.   to Juan Pico #185 04:45  |  zeev 09/03/09
      248.   Keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep Building, Don`t Stop 04:46  |  Victor 09/03/09
      249.   to David #233 05:07  |  zeev 09/03/09
      250.   #234 You missed by a mile, Moshe 05:48  |  Johnboy 09/03/09
      251.   Johnboy # 228 Israel Is Not In Violation Of TheLaws Of Occupation 05:57  |  Jeff Northridge 09/03/09
      252.   Re: "US interest has to be considered" 06:31  |  Miron 09/03/09
      253.   z, the monarchist # 232 We Purchased 55% of Mexico 06:40  |  Jeff Northridge 09/03/09
      254.   Mrs. Clinton 08:35  |  Marty Edwards 09/03/09
      255.   Settlements 08:43  |  Marty Edwards 09/03/09
      256.   All of Israel is a Settlement 11:35  |  Shmuel 09/03/09
      257.   #245 Yet another attempt to point this out to Moshe 13:20  |  Johnboy 09/03/09
      258.   #250 &257 Johnboy 14:01  |  Moshe 09/03/09
      259.   #258 Oh, right back atcha` Moshe Part 1 14:31  |  Johnboy 09/03/09
      260.   #258 Oh, back atcha` Moshe Part 3 14:51  |  Johnboy 09/03/09
      261.   #251 My 1,001st attempt to reply to Jeff 14:56  |  Johnboy 09/03/09
      262.   #260 Johnboy 18:16  |  Moshe 09/03/09
      263.   #259 Johnboy 18:41  |  Moshe 09/03/09
      264.   # 171 now why would i be offended, maria? (4rth try) 22:00  |  eric 09/03/09
      265.   #263 Says who, Moshe? 23:02  |  Johnboy 09/03/09
      266.   #262 When *does* a war begin, Moshe? 2nd try 00:53  |  Johnboy 10/03/09
      267.   #262 2nd try to point this out, Moshe 01:28  |  Johnboy 10/03/09
      268.   to Shmuel #256, in Herzliah - 5th try 10:29  |  zeev 10/03/09
      269.   # 188 CHRIS USA ALREADY DID THAT 16:51  |  Petra 05/04/09
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