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David Grossman / Gaza success proves Israel is strong, not right
By David Grossman
Tags: Gaza, Israel, Israel News 

Like the pairs of foxes in the biblical story of Samson, tied together by their tails, a flaming torch between them, so Israel and the Palestinians - despite the imbalance of power - drag each other along. Even when we try hard to wrest ourselves free, we burn those who are tethered to us - our double, our misfortune - as well as ourselves.

And so, amidst the wave of nationalist hyperbole now sweeping the nation, it would not hurt to recall that in the final analysis, this last operation in Gaza is just another stop along a trail blazing with fire, violence and hatred.

As satisfied as Israelis are that the technical weaknesses of the Second Lebanon War were corrected, we should be paying heed to another voice - the one that says the Israel Defense Forces' successes in the confrontation with Hamas do not prove that it was right to embark on such a massive campaign, and are certainly no justification for Israel's mode of operation in the course of the fighting. These military successes merely confirm that Israel is stronger than Hamas, and that under certain conditions it can be tough and cruel in its own way.
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When the guns become completely silent, and the full scope of the killing and destruction becomes known, to the point where even the most self-righteous and sophisticated of the Israeli psyche's defense mechanisms are overcome, perhaps then some kind of lesson will imprint itself on our brain. Perhaps then we will finally understand how deeply and fundamentally wrong our actions in this region have been from time immemorial - how misguided, unethical, unwise and above all, responsible, time after time, for fanning the flames that consume us.

Obviously, the Palestinians cannot be let off the hook for their crimes and mistakes. That would be tantamount to belittling and condescending to them, as if they were not mature adults with minds of their own, responsible for their own decisions and failures. The inhabitants of the Gaza Strip may have been "strangulated" in many ways by Israel, but even they have other options for protesting and drawing attention to their misery than the launching of thousands of rockets against innocent citizens in Israel.

We must not forget that. We cannot pardon the Palestinians or treat them forgivingly, as if it were obvious that whenever they feel put upon, violence will always be their sole response, the one they embrace almost automatically.

Yet even when the Palestinians act with indiscriminate violence, when they use suicide bombings and Qassam rocket fire, Israel is stronger than them, and it can have a tremendous impact on the level of violence in the conflict as a whole - and hence on calming it down and even bringing it to an end. The current confrontation has not shown that anyone in the Israeli leadership really grasps the critical significance of this aspect of the conflict in any fully conscious or responsible way.

One day, after all, we will seek to heal the wounds we inflict today. How will that day ever come if we do not understand that our military might cannot be the primary instrument for carving out a path for ourselves in this region? How will that day ever come if we fail to comprehend just how graveness is the responsibility that lies on our shoulders by dint of our complex and fateful relations, both past and future, with the Palestinians in the West Bank, the Gaza Strip and the Galilee?

When the clouds of colored smoke dissipate from the politicians' claims of sweeping and decisive victory; when we discover the actual achievements of this operation, and how far they are from what we really need in order to live a normal life here; when we finally admit that a whole country eagerly hypnotized itself, because it needed so badly to believe that Gaza would cure it of Lebanon-itis - maybe then we will settle accounts with those who, time after time, incite the Israeli public, whipping them into a frenzy of arrogance and a euphoria of power. Those who have taught us over the years to scoff at belief in peace and any hope for change in our relations with the Arabs. Those who have convinced us that the Arabs understand only force, and therefore that is the only language we can use in our dealings with them.

And because we have spoken to them for so long in that language, and that language alone, we have forgotten that there are other languages for speaking to human beings, even to enemies, even bitter foes like Hamas - languages that are as much our mother tongue as the language of planes and tanks.

We must speak to the Palestinians: That is the most important conclusion from the most recent round of bloodshed. We must speak also to those who do not recognize our right to exist here. Instead of ignoring Hamas at this time, we would do better to take advantage of the new reality that has been created by beginning a dialogue with them immediately, one that would allow us to reach an accord with the whole of the Palestinian people. We must speak to them and begin to acknowledge that reality is not one hermetic story that we, and the Palestinians, too, have been telling ourselves for generations. Reality is not just the story we are locked into, a story made up, in no small measure, of fantasies, wishful thinking and nightmares.

We must speak to them, and create, within this closed-off, deaf reality, the very possibility for speech. We must create this alternative, so mocked and maligned today, which in the tempest of war has almost no place, no hope, no believers.

We must speak to them as part of a calculated strategy. We must initiate speech, insist on speech, let no one put us off. We must speak, even if dialogue seems hopeless from the start. In the long run, this stubbornness will contribute much more to our security than hundreds of planes dropping bombs on a city and its inhabitants.

We must speak out of understanding, born as we look out at the horrible devastation, as we grasp that the harm we are capable of inflicting on each other, each people in its own way, is so enormous and so destructive and so utterly senseless, that if we surrender to it and accept its logic, it will end up destroying us all.

We must speak, because what has happened in the Gaza Strip over the last few weeks sets up a mirror in which we in Israel see the reflection of our own face - a face that, if we were looking in from the outside or saw it on another people - would leave us aghast. We would see that our victory is not a genuine victory, and that the war in Gaza has not healed the spot that so badly needs a cure, but only further exposed the tragic and never-ending mistakes we have made in navigating our way.

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      2.   We did speak to them...many times 03:00  |  seisen 20/01/09
      3.   8 months? 03:08  |  Frank Benjamin 20/01/09
      4.   Powerful strong words 03:16  |  Michael 20/01/09
      5.   Never say never 03:18  |  Richard 20/01/09
      6.   David Grossman 03:19  |  Judy 20/01/09
      7.   David Grossman 03:19  |  Judy 20/01/09
      8.   BRILLANT! a MUST read for every israeli! 03:21  |  anna panna 20/01/09
      9.   Bravo!! 03:22  |  Carolina 20/01/09
      10.   Could not agree less!! 03:23  |  Nasri Barghouti 20/01/09
      11.   OH YEAH 03:24  |  PAU 20/01/09
      12.   Israel is strong and right as well, no doubt. 03:24  |  Johann 20/01/09
      13.   Here Here! 03:26  |  Seth 20/01/09
      14.   More BS from a Closed Minded Lefty 03:28  |  Tod Zuckerman 20/01/09
      15.   Not right to fight those that want Israel destruction..? 03:30  |  Romy 20/01/09
      16.   Israel 03:30  |  george 20/01/09
      17.   Israel is strong and right 03:32  |  Marty E. 20/01/09
      18.   Grossman has it all wrong... 03:32  |  marat 20/01/09
      19.   Pax Israel is not peace 03:33  |  Marko Grönroos 20/01/09
      20.   We must speak 03:33  |  Bruce Gelber 20/01/09
      21.   thank you david grossman 03:34  |  shani 20/01/09
      22.   Respectfully, your ideas about the conflict are stagnant 03:36  |  A Nice Fellow 20/01/09
      23.   David Grossman 03:38  |  Iamashamed 20/01/09
      24.   Israel is strong and right 03:40  |  Marty E. 20/01/09
      25.   Israel`s success in Gaza 03:41  |  Vittorio 20/01/09
      26.   wrong 03:41  |  David Scott 20/01/09
      27.   How would you "speak to them", Mr. Grossman? 03:44  |  Fortuna Benmayor 20/01/09
      28.   #4 Frank 03:48  |  Sam 20/01/09
      29.   "Success" 03:53  |  George 20/01/09
      30.   Gaza operation 03:54  |  Johann 20/01/09
      31.   Stating the Obvious 03:55  |  Zen 20/01/09
      32.   David Grossman 03:56  |  Connie 20/01/09
      33.   David Grossman 03:56  |  Connie 20/01/09
      34.   # 4 hey frank, he`s also the man who lost a son in lebanon... 03:58  |  eric 20/01/09
      35.   sounds good but ..... 03:58  |  Barry 20/01/09
      36.   Nice Article 04:03  |  Lebanese 20/01/09
      37.   israel success 04:04  |  Michael 20/01/09
      38.   Iran would never allow it 04:04  |  McQueen 20/01/09
      39.   Clearly, David does not live in Sederot 04:04  |  Zen 20/01/09
      40.   YES 04:04  |  mike 20/01/09
      41.   #2 what a joke, you have everthing upside down! 04:07  |  McQueen 20/01/09
      42.   You Idealists and Revisionists Disgust Me! PLEASE RESPOND!!! 04:10  |  20/01/09
      43.   Why doesn`t Grossman believe the arabs? 04:11  |  Eli 20/01/09
      44.   alas 04:15  |  annonymous 20/01/09
      45.   David Grossman 04:17  |  Joshua S. 20/01/09
      46.   "We must speak to them"? 04:17  |  Bennett 20/01/09
      47.   Talking to Hamas now is the right thing to do 04:17  |  Chaver Steve 20/01/09
      48.   The problem, David, is... 04:18  |  Palestinian 20/01/09
      49.   WRONG AS CAN BE. 04:20  |  ISAAC 20/01/09
      50.   Do not forget history:European Settlers took other people`s land 04:22  |  Sam 20/01/09
      51.   Israel was right before it was strong. 04:23  |  Johann 20/01/09
      52.   Seven years 04:24  |  daat y 20/01/09
      53.   Gaza 04:26  |  Maria Leonard 20/01/09
      54.   Sort of Fine and Good 04:27  |  Ron 20/01/09
      55.   Wake up Dear David 04:27  |  Patrick 20/01/09
      56.   I have a dream 04:28  |  DM 20/01/09
      57.   Speaking vs Listening 04:31  |  Giora 20/01/09
      58.   Grossman to Ask Hamas about the Jerusalem Reference in the Koran 04:41  |  Joseph.E 20/01/09
      59.   U.S. will press for negotiations 04:44  |  Publius 20/01/09
      60.   D. Grossman- Read #2 From Time Immemorial 04:44  |  Solomon 20/01/09
      61.   Gotta be right and strong in a sea of "peace loving" neighbours ! 04:46  |  Johann 20/01/09
      62.   nice quote from Samson 04:47  |  Jon 20/01/09
      63.   David Grossman 04:57  |  Adam 20/01/09
      64.   Mr Kami slipped up (#2) 05:00  |  joshua 20/01/09
      65.   rami kaed`s comments 05:01  |  Tarquin 20/01/09
      66.   End occupation, there will be peace! 05:05  |  Rizwan 20/01/09
      67.   well said 05:07  |  Paul 20/01/09
      68.   Grossman 05:08  |  Dennis 20/01/09
      69.   Mr. Grossman, have you ever heard of"war" 05:08  |  judith 20/01/09
      70.   Dear Mr. David Grossman; 05:16  |  Jeff Northridge 20/01/09
      71.   David Grossman`s article 05:20  |  S.A. 20/01/09
      72.   Israels sucess 05:24  |  Mark 20/01/09
      73.   talk to whom 05:24  |  Frederic H. Arnold 20/01/09
      74.   Israel`s here to stay!! 05:25  |  John 20/01/09
      75.   Terms and conditions 05:30  |  Hate`restz 20/01/09
      76.   Dear Palestinian (#16) 05:32  |  Obie 20/01/09
      77.   At the height of it all 05:33  |  Shimon Cleopas 20/01/09
      78.   Listen to your adversaries 05:33  |  Steve 20/01/09
      79.   A point that bears repeating (II) 05:34  |  Colin Wright 20/01/09
      80.   Listen to your enemies (continued) 05:38  |  Steve 20/01/09
      81.   Racist, arrogant Israelis won`t learn anything 05:39  |  peacelover 20/01/09
      82.   Grossman`s article 05:41  |  Treetop 20/01/09
      83.   SAME TUNE, DIFERENT PLAYER(BORING) 05:41  |  Jorge 20/01/09
      84.   Israel`s "success" 05:44  |  RS 20/01/09
      85.   Israel is a small country in need of true friends. 05:45  |  stella 20/01/09
      86.   Rizwan (#42) and "ending the occupation" 05:49  |  joshua 20/01/09
      87.   David Grossman proves the Left is wrong 05:56  |  Frank 20/01/09
      88.   Siesen is selfrighteous 05:56  |  Truth 20/01/09
      89.   Grossman: Talk To Them & Come Back With A Peace Agreement 05:57  |  Brad 20/01/09
      90.   "Obie" in Oberlin 05:58  |  Palestinian 20/01/09
      91.   Northidge and facts 05:59  |  Truth 20/01/09
      92.   How can such a smart man be so clueless? 06:00  |  Elad Lending 20/01/09
      93.   Joshua in New York 06:02  |  Ramzi, a Palestinian 20/01/09
      94.   Quisling! 06:03  |  Rob 20/01/09
      95.   Israel`s leadership 06:05  |  RS 20/01/09
      96.   david grossman 06:07  |  hassan 20/01/09
      97.   Grossman - a real Israeli patriot 06:10  |  Dr David Zyngier 20/01/09
      98.   darura 06:10  |  knowledgeable 20/01/09
      99.   Poor David Grossman.... 06:15  |  Zeev 20/01/09
      100.   strong not right 06:16  |  shmuel 20/01/09
      101.   WHO did the IDF REALLY defeat? 06:18  |  Samy 20/01/09
      102.   #86 Joshua 06:20  |  Rizwan 20/01/09
      103.   Response to #33 06:25  |  searcher 20/01/09
      104.   David Grossman / Israel`s success in Gaza only proves it is stron 06:25  |  TRUDI BERGLIN 20/01/09
      105.   Deaf and Dumb 06:26  |  Jack 20/01/09
      106.   Gaza 06:28  |  John Maizels 20/01/09
      107.   Grossman 06:30  |  Ken 20/01/09
      108.   Re: "darura" 06:32  |  Deab 20/01/09
      109.   David Grossman 06:37  |  Paul 20/01/09
      110.   #78 Steve @ Colombus, Ohio....but they`ve indirectly recognized 06:39  |  Smadar 20/01/09
      111.   Why not the carrot and the stick, Mr. Grossman 06:42  |  David .Zukerman 20/01/09
      112.   Israel`s sucsess in Gaza 06:42  |  Amin Abusway 20/01/09
      113.   Grossman`s article 06:44  |  Emilio 20/01/09
      114.   And the winner is ... 06:47  |  Jeffrey 20/01/09
      115.   Truth # 91 Hamas Rejects A Two-State Solution 06:52  |  Jeff Northridge 20/01/09
      116.   Few lines from Hamas Principles. 07:01  |  Levi 20/01/09
      117.   David Grossman , why don?t you read up on jihad? 07:07  |  Mladen Andrijasevic 20/01/09
      118.   The IDF never stopped rockets, nor weakened Hamas 07:10  |  Kris Lazar 20/01/09
      119.   david grossman 07:10  |  paul 20/01/09
      120.   WISE WORDS FINALLY FROM A FELLOW HUMAN BEING 07:11  |  ANDRE STEINER 20/01/09
      121.   This time Israel was 100% right! 07:18  |  leftist 20/01/09
      122.   John Maizels 07:18  |  Connie 20/01/09
      123.   Destruction of Hamas 07:22  |  Jennifer Lowenstein 20/01/09
      124.   Allies are also tied to the rabid fox - the watch dog in the M.E. 07:23  |  Maureen Ann 20/01/09
      125.   Thank You David Grossman 07:25  |  Mouflleta 20/01/09
      126.   John Maizels 07:26  |  Brad 20/01/09
      127.   You are hurting Israel, not helping it 07:29  |  Northeasterner 20/01/09
      128.   David Grossman 07:30  |  rachel simson 20/01/09
      129.   Judy 07:34  |  saladin 20/01/09
      130.   To Haaretz 07:35  |  MrMe 20/01/09
      131.   Deranged Israeli Left wants dissolving of Israel 07:51  |  Absolute Sweden 20/01/09
      132.   Mistakes made by Both Sides 07:54  |  Jordanna 20/01/09
      133.   Take a chill Tod, this "close minded lefty" buried his son two 08:01  |  Jacob Blues 20/01/09
      134.   What have the Israelis won? 08:08  |  Progressive Observer 20/01/09
      135.   War Crimes ? 08:11  |  Bruce 20/01/09
      136.   WRONG WRONG WRONG 08:15  |  Emily 20/01/09
      137.   Gross Grossman 08:16  |  Ori 20/01/09
      138.   Israel`s success 08:25  |  Shimon 20/01/09
      139.   WE MUST TALK!??? 08:34  |  Avishai 20/01/09
      140.   David Grossman`s article, Jan. 20 08:44  |  Elaine Varady 20/01/09
      141.   He would have spoken to Hitler and pitied Dresden 08:46  |  ace 20/01/09
      142.   #48 - Palestinian 08:57  |  Gillian 20/01/09
      143.   # 126 to bruce re: war crimes? 08:58  |  eric 20/01/09
      144.   Sensible Words 08:59  |  Christopher Mahan 20/01/09
      145.   time immemorial 09:00  |  yonah 20/01/09
      146.   David Grossman SACRIFICED A SON - what did you give 09:01  |  Ellen 20/01/09
      147.   the point was to prove that israel is strong 09:05  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 20/01/09
      148.   To Talk to Hamas is to validate Hamas claims and terror 09:19  |  Joseph.E 20/01/09
      149.   Palestinians cannot pardon Israel for killing 09:20  |  Peace 20/01/09
      150.   Arabs and jews 09:23  |  Paul 20/01/09
      151.   Where is the Arab David Grossman? 09:25  |  Shmuel 20/01/09
      152.   Fortuna Benmayor - we cannot speak to Hamas? 09:32  |  sh 20/01/09
      153.   David, IT DOESN`T MATTER, as long as they don`t terrorise 09:35  |  Harvey 20/01/09
      154.   Grossman and the absurd 09:35  |  DT 20/01/09
      155.   IDF 09:42  |  Can 20/01/09
      156.   Strong but not right?... 09:51  |  E.C. 20/01/09
      157.   Israel is strong 09:51  |  Steven 20/01/09
      158.   stubbornness 09:52  |  Thore 20/01/09
      159.   "PEACE"Canada.Never heard of the Maalot massacre? 09:55  |  PETER SM 20/01/09
      160.   right words 09:56  |  raoul 20/01/09
      161.   Rising above worship of force 10:03  |  Tzfonit 20/01/09
      162.   The state of Israel (and Israelis) 10:03  |  Natallue Durson 20/01/09
      163.   #34 10:04  |  Frank 20/01/09
      164.   YOU JUST CAN`T EDUCATE SOME PEOPLE 10:05  |  Fauna 20/01/09
      165.   #148 - sh 10:08  |  Gillian 20/01/09
      166.   Hamas has been weakened, but Israel has lost the respect...... 10:11  |  Swiss (Dino) 20/01/09
      167.   Israel is strong - and up coming elections 10:12  |  Steven 20/01/09
      168.   YOU ARE RIGHT, ELLEN from Arad. 10:13  |  Fauna 20/01/09
      169.   David Grossman needs to learn History 10:13  |  Hank Shrier 20/01/09
      170.   Ellen in Arad, how right you are. 10:15  |  Tzfonit 20/01/09
      171.   #148, sh, they are not angry 10:19  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 20/01/09
      172.   Hamas tortures PA men at this moment. Lets talk to Hamas or not? 10:23  |  arthur 20/01/09
      173.   Cipora 10:56  |  sh 20/01/09
      174.   I don`t think they will want to hear you ! 11:07  |  tristan 20/01/09
      175.   ofcourse we should talk to hamas 11:10  |  schnitzler 20/01/09
      176.   Talking 11:18  |  Serge 20/01/09
      177.   to 66 Dino 11:25  |  Dani 20/01/09
      178.   nice article but 11:25  |  just a man 20/01/09
      179.   Grossman needs to change Israel`s whole understanding of itself 11:26  |  Michael 20/01/09
      180.   Grossman is only partly right 11:27  |  Jack 20/01/09
      181.   I can only agree with David Grossman 11:32  |  Charles 20/01/09
      182.   Theory versus Reality??? 11:38  |  Aviva 20/01/09
      183.   Europeans settlers n. 50 11:52  |  john and the TRUTH! 20/01/09
      184.   69 Judith 11:55  |  john and the TRUTH! 20/01/09
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      186.   #175 Michael 12:01  |  Boycott 20/01/09
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      189.   article 12:08  |  Jewgirl 20/01/09
      190.   Oh please!!!! 12:09  |  Dhimmi Hendrix 20/01/09
      191.   # 10, Barghouti, you are right only 12:18  |  Amos 20/01/09
      192.   A Genuine Peace Movement Cannot be Zionist 12:24  |  Traude 20/01/09
      193.   #175 Michael in UK.. 12:27  |  Hastaroth 20/01/09
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      196.   Brave article, sir. 12:37  |  Muir 20/01/09
      197.   Speak to them! 12:42  |  T Melo 20/01/09
      198.   palestinians have other modes of comunication 12:42  |  rachelle 20/01/09
      199.   Trapped 12:47  |  dario navarra 20/01/09
      200.   MICHAEL How long did Brits take to make peace with the IRA? 12:49  |  PETER SM 20/01/09
      201.   Jennifer Lowenstein # 123- Thanks 13:07  |  Kameel 20/01/09
      202.   Unfortunately the left is still in the wishful thinking mode 13:10  |  Zev 20/01/09
      203.   DAVID GRASSMAN GAZA SUCCESS. 13:12  |  Monty Pogoda 20/01/09
      204.   Johann from Helsinki 13:15  |  Jake 1948 20/01/09
      205.   Hastaroth and PSM. Early Zionists were mainly Europeans. 13:17  |  Michael 20/01/09
      206.   Let`s talk about your leaders! 13:21  |  john and the TRUTH! 20/01/09
      207.   MIGHT IS RIGHT 13:24  |  Avi 20/01/09
      208.   Stop the hand wringing... 13:25  |  Erastus CoupeDeVille 20/01/09
      209.   There is no "Fife and Drum" parade here ! 13:27  |  TW 20/01/09
      210.   israel is not the problem... 13:34  |  david 20/01/09
      211.   Gaza 13:35  |  Dunia 20/01/09
      212.   MICHAEL Early Arabs were killing Non Zionist Jews 13:36  |  PETER SM 20/01/09
      213.   Israel is not right, Marty E. 13:53  |  AT 20/01/09
      214.   I have a dream 13:55  |  N 20/01/09
      215.   David Grossman 14:03  |  Harry 20/01/09
      216.   if violence is bad and dialogue impossible...whats the solution?? 14:06  |  Natalie 20/01/09
      217.   Very poor translation. 14:10  |  m. Smith 20/01/09
      218.   #34 eric...nobody ever, nevers or always 14:12  |  Lynn 20/01/09
      219.   Northridge if Hams is duping 14:13  |  Truth 20/01/09
      220.   Peter Sm and seklective history 14:15  |  Truth 20/01/09
      221.   Peter Sm and Jews in Palestine 14:21  |  Truth 20/01/09
      222.   innerbeauty 14:31  |  indojaya 20/01/09
      223.   sustained peace 14:51  |  wounded 20/01/09
      224.   Wrong, Jeffrey in Denver 15:17  |  Sean 20/01/09
      225.   @rizwan 15:22  |  natalie 20/01/09
      226.   grossman` article proves... 15:32  |  open eyes 20/01/09
      227.   Comfort 15:58  |  Tamara 20/01/09
      228.   ROMAN EMPIRE WAS STRONG AS WELL 16:08  |  indrajaya 20/01/09
      229.   David Grossman`s article 20.1.09 16:17  |  Shlomo Homossany 20/01/09
      230.   Shock and Awe vs accomplishing something worthwhile 16:25  |  Mark Lincoln 20/01/09
      231.   ##220 and 221 16:38  |  David Zukerman 20/01/09
      232.   of course, he is right 16:38  |  Chris Yamin 20/01/09
      233.   Silence is Golden 16:49  |  Jack 20/01/09
      234.   #228 16:52  |  David Zukerman 20/01/09
      235.   mr.Grosman-naive or stupid or blind? 16:52  |  Yaffit 20/01/09
      236.   On achieving peace 16:57  |  David Zukerman 20/01/09
      237.   #228 INDY...Rome is the still there 17:00  |  Lynn 20/01/09
      238.   Zichron, #2 17:10  |  hat 20/01/09
      239.   David Grossman 17:26  |  Carly 20/01/09
      240.   David Grossman`s article 17:33  |  Benedict Birnberg 20/01/09
      241.   DAVID GROSSMAN LACKS ANSWERS 17:38  |  Rich 20/01/09
      242.   #205 Michael....Peres has already said that 17:41  |  Lynn 20/01/09
      243.   Thank goodness for sanity 17:42  |  Sorrel 20/01/09
      244.   Mr Grossman,please take note of the following. 17:54  |  David Nigel Braham 20/01/09
      245.   Israel no longer the victim 18:16  |  Leila 20/01/09
      246.   David Grossman, gaza success 18:25  |  Ruth Fruchtman 20/01/09
      247.   Leftists like Grossman believe that Arabs are right; we are wrong 18:32  |  Naomi 20/01/09
      248.   Israel "proved" what we already knew 18:38  |  Clickfool 20/01/09
      249.   palestinian options 18:42  |  joe hill 20/01/09
      250.   Grossman`s delusion 18:59  |  Jonas Tucker 20/01/09
      251.   #226 the naked truth 19:01  |  H.H.M 20/01/09
      252.   #230, Jack...and the bully is..... 19:08  |  Silvienne 20/01/09
      253.   Is it Better to Be Wrong & Strong Than Right & Weak? 19:11  |  massaraksh 20/01/09
      254.   Israel and Hamas. Moral equals 19:14  |  Roo 20/01/09
      255.   Grossman 19:19  |  Dr Jerald 20/01/09
      256.   for you: david grossman, mo chara 19:26  |  maureen 20/01/09
      257.   Listen to your enemies 19:29  |  Steve 20/01/09
      258.   What is he smoking? 19:32  |  Steve 20/01/09
      259.   Pure Leftist Garbage 19:34  |  Yaakov Hillel 20/01/09
      260.   Respected Mr Grossman I do understand 19:35  |  Ines 20/01/09
      261.   Grossman/Gaza 19:38  |  g 20/01/09
      262.   MICHAEL,UK ......God said: 19:43  |  Maria 20/01/09
      263.   Re# 3 .... 8 months ??? 8 years !!! 19:49  |  Ines 20/01/09
      264.   Hey Folks....the only solution to the problem is for 19:53  |  Maria 20/01/09
      265.   cont: Garbage 19:54  |  Yaakov Hillel 20/01/09
      266.   Re # Michael... You live in California... 19:59  |  Ines 20/01/09
      267.   Indrajaya ....don`t compare Israel from the 19:59  |  Maria 20/01/09
      268.   Re 3 Migth is not right 20:02  |  Ines 20/01/09
      269.   Re # 206 or may be ... Your leaders..not ours 20:04  |  Ines 20/01/09
      270.   why only now you are speaking 20:05  |  ana 20/01/09
      271.   Today Marks Beginning of End of Zionism 20:10  |  Jeremiah Cohen 20/01/09
      272.   # 232, MARIA 20:17  |  indrajaya 20/01/09
      273.   Like watering a plant 20:25  |  David 20/01/09
      274.   Whjat success? 20:26  |  Bill 20/01/09
      275.   Re# 175 Israel will talk to Hamas when 20:30  |  Ines 20/01/09
      276.   This war showed the world the "real Israel"!! 20:35  |  Noora 20/01/09
      277.   #243, #238, Preach on, oh sister Maria... 20:35  |  Silvienne 20/01/09
      278.   Basic Human behaviour 20:36  |  Ines 20/01/09
      279.   Proportional response 20:37  |  Nuts 20/01/09
      280.   242 - Ines. Occupation & greed is the root of all evil. 20:41  |  Yair 20/01/09
      281.   ISrael strong, not right 20:45  |  H Wipprecht 20/01/09
      282.   Re: darura 20:47  |  knowledgeable 20/01/09
      283.   Garbage 3 20:49  |  יעקב הלל 20/01/09
      284.   Out of touch 20:53  |  Mike Malkovitch 20/01/09
      285.   #246 - Jeremiah Cohen. Amen, brother! 20:54  |  Kaspar 20/01/09
      286.   Indrajaya...oh really! 20:55  |  Maria 20/01/09
      287.   Pseudo intelectual mastru... 21:00  |  TOMY 20/01/09
      288.   #44 In what world do you live in? 21:01  |  Bruni 20/01/09
      289.   Stop repeating history! 21:05  |  Bill 20/01/09
      290.   Maria #244..... God said: 21:10  |  ave 20/01/09
      291.   yes! 21:23  |  ne 20/01/09
      292.   Israeli/Palestinian Civil War 21:30  |  Fred Schumacher 20/01/09
      293.   #265 WRONG It showed the real face 21:38  |  patrizio 20/01/09
      294.   #262, ANA 21:44  |  maureen 20/01/09
      295.   The Article 22:17  |  Eduardo 20/01/09
      296.   TRUTH.Eichman did NOT visit Palestine by Jewish invitation 22:22  |  PETER SM 20/01/09
      297.   Ave...haven`t you noticed in this computer age... 22:24  |  Maria 20/01/09
      298.   Reality 22:26  |  Yaakov Hillel 20/01/09
      299.   #166 Swiss, you make me laugh by saing 22:32  |  TOMY 20/01/09
      300.   Israel is both, right and strong. 22:32  |  Norma 20/01/09
      301.   Response to this article P1 22:49  |  TonyL 20/01/09
      302.   True, beautifdul, touching 23:01  |  Uzi 20/01/09
      303.   David Grossman, ONE or lagoyim ! 23:03  |  David 20/01/09
      304.   Response to this article P2 23:05  |  TonyL 20/01/09
      305.   Israel spoke to Hamas loud and clear this time 23:06  |  Aryeah245 20/01/09
      306.   #192: Wrong! Theodor Herzl has left a legacy of peace 23:09  |  Markus Grafenburg 20/01/09
      307.   I still can not get it out of my mind 23:16  |  Aryeah245 20/01/09
      308.   Mr Grossman, you anticipated Obama 23:17  |  Celia Ladeira Mota 20/01/09
      309.   Grossman 23:25  |  Pat 20/01/09
      310.   Maria..on dumb Sheep 23:30  |  ave 20/01/09
      311.   Neither side is right and neither side has won. 23:39  |  Betty 20/01/09
      312.   Might does not make right 23:43  |  L Parker 20/01/09
      313.   #254 Roo...I was absolutely right 23:47  |  Lynn 20/01/09
      314.   Thank`s to you Mr David Grossman 23:49  |  JR 20/01/09
      315.   Whar Obama says about Power and GAZA 23:52  |  Obamaniac 20/01/09
      316.   Response - Proportional response 23:57  |  Aryeah245 20/01/09
      317.   Dear David, I wonder to hear from you: 23:58  |  kaled 20/01/09
      318.   Grossman on Gaza 00:03  |  Bill 21/01/09
      319.   #173, sh, confusing anger and hatred 00:05  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 21/01/09
      320.   Response - Mr Grossman, you anticipated Obama 00:11  |  Aryeah245 21/01/09
      321.   # 237, LYNN 00:16  |  indrajaya 21/01/09
      322.   Response - Neither side is right and neither side has won. 00:24  |  Aryeah245 21/01/09
      323.   Palestinians 00:24  |  Momzer 21/01/09
      324.   L.PARKER this is self criticism.When can we expect any 00:39  |  PETER SM 21/01/09
      325.   Freedom of Palestine 00:43  |  Obama 21/01/09
      326.   # 299 TOMY and his New York "fantasy-world"..... 00:48  |  Swiss (Dino) 21/01/09
      327.   Reply to Peter SM 00:49  |  Truth 21/01/09
      328.   # 177 Dani, sorry, but I tried to respond you 2 times..... 00:51  |  Swiss (Dino) 21/01/09
      329.   For Clickfool #248 00:59  |  leo 21/01/09
      330.   Lynn-you were wrong then 01:09  |  Roo 21/01/09
      331.   QUICK ANSWER FROM A LEFTIST IDEALIST 01:13  |  Alex 21/01/09
      332.   Because of apologetics like you 01:21  |  Alfred 21/01/09
      333.   David Grossman 01:56  |  Andrea Cohen 21/01/09
      334.   Israel was right. Grossman is wrong. 02:11  |  Nechama 21/01/09
      335.   thank you Mr Grossman 02:19  |  MP 21/01/09
      336.   Aryeah245, your post is devoid of reality... 02:39  |  BBSNews 21/01/09
      337.   #166 swiss dino 02:45  |  duncan 21/01/09
      338.   Israel claims about 500 terrorists dead 02:58  |  Mark Lincoln 21/01/09
      339.   Can`t succeed with weapons 04:08  |  Waseem 21/01/09
      340.   BS News, familiar aroma 04:38  |  Jasper 21/01/09
      341.   There`s no conversation without Palestinian unity 04:59  |  John 21/01/09
      342.   TRUTH You have totally omitted not replied. 05:14  |  PETER SM 21/01/09
      343.   M.Lincoln There is NO justification for Hamas fighting from homes 05:45  |  PETER SM 21/01/09
      344.   Amen 05:49  |  american 21/01/09
      345.   I have stopped talking to my Israeli and Jew friends 06:04  |  Epsilon Eridani 21/01/09
      346.   For Mark Lincoln # 338 06:13  |  leo 21/01/09
      347.   A new aroma of change jasper... 06:37  |  BBSNews 21/01/09
      348.   # 332 to alfred in sydney 07:43  |  eric 21/01/09
      349.   move forward Israel 08:07  |  steve wall 21/01/09
      350.   # 306 Markus Grafenburg 08:21  |  Traude 21/01/09
      351.   congrats to Ha`aretz 08:58  |  Lorraine 21/01/09
      352.   #171 Cipora - Yours, is cold truth in a hot bath of confusion 09:40  |  S 21/01/09
      353.   What should we speak about? 14:34  |  Annie 21/01/09
      354.   #327 Swiss , if you would of walk in Spain 17:59  |  TOMY