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Jurists tell Barak: Don't shell Gaza population centers
By Amos Harel
Tags: Gaza Strip, Israel News 

Israel should not use artillery fire to target rocket-launching militants in the Gaza Strip if the fire is aimed at populated areas, the defense establishment's legal adviser recently told Defense Minister Ehud Barak.

"Artillery fire is permissible only in relatively open areas," Ahaz Benari wrote in the legal opinion. "Artillery fire at urban areas is problematic, if the assessment is that the chance that the shell will hit the launchers is relatively low, while the risk that many civilians will be hurt is substantial."

Barak and Chief of Staff Gabi Ashkenazi have previously expressed doubts about an extensive Israel Defense Forces operation in Gaza now. Benari's opinion appears to be backed by leading military prosecution officials, though Attorney General Menachem Mazuz has yet to express a firm opinion on the matter. Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has promised to hold a cabinet meeting on the issue shortly.
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Benari wrote the legal opinion December 7, after cabinet ministers called for a reexamination of the steps Israel is using to counter Qassam fire. The opinion reviews international law on the matter and finds that while there is no wholesale ban on artillery fire at sites from which rockets were launched, the fire should be aimed at military targets and be able to distinguish between the target and civilians or civilian property.

The opinion also states that if damage to civilians or their property is expected as a result of the artillery fire, the IDF must make sure the damage is not much greater than the expected military benefit - an expression of the legal principle known as proportionality.

Meanwhile, Palestinian militants in Gaza fired seven Qassam rockets and mortar shells on southern Israel yesterday, causing no injuries. Defense officials said last night that even though Hamas leaders are saying the cease-fire with Israel will not be extended past Friday, the organization has not completely given up on continuing the lull.

The IDF developed a detailed procedure for artillery fire in Gaza in 2006, which approves shooting only in open areas and mandates that a distance be kept from buildings. But the IDF halted its use of artillery fire altogether after accidentally killing 18 Palestinian civilians in the Gaza town of Beit Hanun in November 2006, even though the artillery fire was meant to target open areas.

The legal opinion also addressed the creation of ghost towns in Gaza, involving the eviction of Gazans from their homes in areas Palestinian militants use for launching rockets, as an Israeli response to the rocket fire. Benari said international law allows Israel to warn the residents of the intended IDF artillery response and evacuate a particular area for a short time. But even then, he said, the IDF cannot engage in carpet bombing, which would lead to the intended massive destruction of property that does not constitute a legitimate target. He said Israel must also take into account that some civilians will remain in the area even if they are advised to leave.

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      1.   As if this makes any difference... 00:52  |  Silvienne 01/01/08
      2.   The Only Thing`s Left Is To Surrender to Hamas 00:15  |  massaraksh 01/01/08
      3.   Who is the Pal`s legal advisor then? 00:17  |  Peter Williams 01/01/08
      4.   Worthless Israel, just pack up and move to the moon 00:47  |  Genuine Tosefta 01/01/08
      5.   let me get this straight. hamas can fire from a population center 00:47  |  ralph 01/01/08
      6.   Oy Vey to the Lawyers 00:04  |  Yankel 01/01/08
      7.   No limits to self-defense 00:06  |  Zachor Amalek 01/01/08
      8.   Send Benari to Sderot 00:12  |  Rabbi Yakov Lazaros 01/01/08
      9.   They shoot at my house, we shoot ar theirs. 00:37  |  Wise Saba 01/01/08
      10.   SILVIENNE You would love a shoot out amongst Pal civillians 00:41  |  PETER SM 01/01/08
      11.   HAMAS has an established record firing from Schools 00:43  |  PETER SM 01/01/08
      12.   international "law is a ass" 00:48  |  McQueen 01/01/08
      13.   Sylvienne 00:48  |  Brad 01/01/08
      14.   Instead of Oy Vey histrionics.... 00:51  |  Brad 01/01/08
      15.   Put this lawyer on the front lines 00:04  |  IW 01/01/08
      16.   Time to get this lunacy stopped 00:13  |  Ron 01/01/08
      17.   Silvienne crying again while supporting pals 00:17  |  Adrian de Klerk 01/01/08
      18.   Just pound the area just outside... 00:20  |  real vision 01/01/08
      19.   Horrors 00:24  |  Mark of Lewiston 01/01/08
      20.   The law clerks are the new generals of the IDF 00:27  |  Jim 01/01/08
      21.   . . . but the terrorists can shoot on civlians 00:33  |  Dan 01/01/08
      22.   Jurists tell Hamas: shell Israeli population centers 00:35  |  Dan 01/01/08
      23.   At least we will win the legal war when we float in the Mediterra 00:39  |  Dan 01/01/08
      24.   Thank you very much Ahaz Benari 00:42  |  Don Saliman 01/01/08
      25.   When will ISRAEL learn . . . you must fight fire with firre 00:43  |  Kobi 01/01/08
      26.   Gaza , largest prison in the world 00:13  |  an american 01/01/08
      27.   Jurists on Gaza 00:14  |  Davidoff 01/01/08
      28.   Bombing Gaza 00:27  |  Doug 01/01/08
      29.   Israel must defend its citizens without any other consideration! 00:35  |  Jean Van Daem 01/01/08
      30.   Who`s Decision? 00:37  |  RON 01/01/08
      31.   Law for Just One Side isn`t Law 00:49  |  Fred 01/01/08
      32.   The only legal benchmark Israel needs to heed is... 00:51  |  Dr. L. Brnd 01/01/08
      33.   Americans will not accept Israel`s violence in response toQassams 00:10  |  Dutch 01/01/08
      34.   The Law Unwittingly Sides with Terrorism 00:14  |  Scientist 01/01/08
      35.   An American, largest dupe in NY? 00:35  |  Joe Sittizen 01/01/08
      36.   Legal adviser from Chelm???? 00:40  |  You figure it out 01/01/08
      37.   Is legal adviser being passed the rap from Barak? 00:42  |  question 01/01/08
      38.   I vote for the second suggestion of #2. 00:45  |  Micchael 01/01/08
      39.   US Senator Lawyer Telling American Generals 00:50  |  Mark of Lewiston 01/01/08
      40.   Amazing he has to be told this 00:56  |  Clickfool 01/01/08
      41.   Oh Really Dr BRND? 00:58  |  Mark of Lewiston 01/01/08
      42.   #26 "an american" 00:10  |  Yonatan 01/01/08
      43.   #33 Dutch on "Americans" 00:12  |  Yonatan 01/01/08
      44.   roll on feb 11 2009 when israel stops this nonsense ! 00:23  |  victor hardman 01/01/08
      45.   It`s a good thing that these jurists weren`t advising 00:32  |  Zev 01/01/08
      46.   Maybe if Israel would declare war there would be different rules 00:36  |  Beni 01/01/08
      47.   Jurists tell Barak: don`t be a terrorist. Simple as that. 00:43  |  Michael 01/01/08
      48.   Jurists have no say and should shut up 00:51  |  David Teich 01/01/08
      49.   Jurists tell Barak 00:55  |  Marlene 01/01/08
      50.   RE: #41 not hostile country? 00:16  |  David Scott 01/01/08
      51.   It should stand to reason the IDF can`t target a civilian society 00:17  |  Dutch 01/01/08
      52.   Mark of Lewiston 00:17  |  Peter Williams 01/01/08
      53.   jurists 00:39  |  colin 01/01/08
      54.   Benairi 00:41  |  Zelkha 01/01/08
      55.   So what do you do if you are fired upon and can`t fire back????? 00:58  |  DeI 01/01/08
      56.   #47 the simpleton michael and his experience in warfare ? 00:14  |  victor hardman 01/01/08
      57.   #48 More nonsense from the Teichster 00:19  |  Johnboy 01/01/08
      58.   In keeping with Islamic hospitality, Kassams must also include 00:23  |  German 01/01/08
      59.   SHELL GAZA WITH KREMBO 00:26  |  Alka Seltzer 01/01/08
      60.   Now that the American government will be run from Brussells` via 00:29  |  Jury duty 01/01/08
      61.   political correctness gone MAD 00:35  |  shoot back 01/01/08
      62.   madness 00:44  |  shoot from schools 01/01/08
      63.   Israel fighting "evil" with "evil"....????? 00:02  |  Swiss (Dino) 01/01/08
      64.   50 Vicky`s got her knickers in a twist again. 00:03  |  Michael 01/01/08
      65.   44 victor hardman Re roll on Feb 11 00:18  |  James 01/01/08
      66.   It`s A Matter Of Accuracy I Suppose (part 1) 00:23  |  Jeff Northridge 01/01/08
      67.   shell Gaza population 00:29  |  ROBERT 01/01/08
      68.   #58 michael and polite conversation with 00:35  |  victor hardman 01/01/08
      69.   60 Robert in Milan. Are you a fan of Mussolini then? 00:49  |  Michael 01/01/08
      70.   firing shell into open areas was and is a waste of energy 00:55  |  r 01/01/08
      71.   Lrgal opinion written by Eugene Ionesco? 00:56  |  17 01/01/08
      72.   It won`t make any difference 00:01  |  Chris Linthwaite 01/01/08
      73.   Michael 00:02  |  Steve 01/01/08
      74.   It`s A Matter Of Accuracy I Suppose (part 2) 00:10  |  Jeff Northridge 01/01/08
      75.   To Steve 67. Don`t be prejudiced. Do use your brain. 00:21  |  Michael 01/01/08
      76.   #60 No, Jeff, it isn`t. 00:25  |  Johnboy 01/01/08
      77.   Shysters dispute everything,that`s their life,but heeding them is 00:31  |  Absolute Sweden 01/01/08
      78.   one wonders why Chris Lightweight keeps exposing his ignorance 00:33  |  x-ray 01/01/08
      79.   What would the UK do if Birmingham were peppered with missiles? 00:37  |  x-ray 01/01/08
      80.   Leaders must be shellshocked more than its citizens 00:38  |  Shelly 01/01/08
      81.   Why does he have to tell him, he doesn`t fire back anyway for 9 y 00:46  |  name 01/01/08
      82.   The law never mattered before, why should it now? 14:53 00:53  |  BBSNews 01/01/08
      83.   Michael 00:54  |  Steve 01/01/08
      84.   ok to fire at Israelis but not Gazans 00:57  |  Michael Hessler 01/01/08
      85.   #14 Our Moral Code is Our Greatest Weakness and Greatest Strength 00:02  |  Noach 01/01/08
      86.   Mark of Lewiston - or keep his job 00:05  |  Mark Lincoln 01/01/08
      87.   Give Hamas the same advice 00:07  |  Realist 01/01/08
      88.   My son the Def/Min Lawyer?(OY!) 00:12  |  Gideon Reader 01/01/08
      89.   Let`s see, your wife is worth - Mark of Lewiston 00:14  |  Mark Lincoln 01/01/08
      90.   Steve 80. Of course I condemn the qassams. 00:17  |  Michael 01/01/08
      91.   The Only Solution 00:21  |  Gil 01/01/08
      92.   But Qassam rockets are legal? 00:39  |  Rob 01/01/08
      93.   # 69 Michael 00:42  |  Robert 01/01/08
      94.   #79 x-ray 00:49  |  Chris Linthwaite 01/01/08
      95.   Johnboy # 72 Your Argument Fails (part 1) 00:54  |  Jeff Northridge 01/01/08
      96.   BBSNews, The law does matter and especially now in Gaza 00:00  |  dutch 01/01/08
      97.   Free Fire Zone 00:05  |  Jack 01/01/08
      98.   #91 Gil 00:08  |  Michael Hessler 01/01/08
      99.   Israel, don`t follow U S or Intl. Lawyers. 00:10  |  John Allen 01/01/08
      100.   No. 60 Jury duty 00:13  |  a wandering Jew 01/01/08
      101.   These kind of dessissions are the main reason 00:14  |  TOMY 01/01/08
      102.   Oh no, the gung-ho Americans have come online. 00:16  |  Michael 01/01/08
      103.   40 Clickfool, Re amazing... 00:17  |  Dutch 01/01/08
      104.   Michael 00:19  |  Steve 01/01/08
      105.   #91 GIL , great idea , but the lefties do not 00:20  |  TOMY 01/01/08
      106.   Lawyers. 00:21  |  John Allen 01/01/08
      107.   Johnboy #76 well put 00:28  |  Keith 01/01/08
      108.   Don`t bomb innocent peole,, 00:29  |  John Allen 01/01/08
      109.   Proportionality is not an issue . 00:36  |  TOMY 01/01/08
      110.   Johnboy # 72 Your Argument Fails (part 2) 00:37  |  Jeff Northridge 01/01/08
      111.   But Jeff (Northridge)...... 00:45  |  Persian Kitty 01/01/08
      112.   Dutch 00:51  |  Sean 01/01/08
      113.   #33 Dutch , Israel occupy Gaza ? 00:51  |  TOMY 01/01/08
      114.   What a load of crock 00:53  |  Ofer 01/01/08
      115.   Its all a big bluff. Nobody in Hamas is that crazy. 00:55  |  Stephen. 01/01/08
      116.   #39 Mark 00:55  |  John Allen 01/01/08
      117.   Steve 104 00:01  |  Michael 01/01/08
      118.   #41 Mark, wrong again. 00:03  |  John Allen 01/01/08
      119.   Jeff Northridge-#95 non sequitur 00:08  |  Roo 01/01/08
      120.   Generals defend country 00:12  |  Brod 01/01/08
      121.   #47 Michael 00:16  |  John Allen 01/01/08
      122.   "Jurists" 00:29  |  Shmuelshachor 01/01/08
      123.   #72, Chris the liar 00:34  |  David 01/01/08
      124.   John Allen 121. Read post 102. 00:48  |  Michael 01/01/08
      125.   Artillery fire MUST be used against gaza population centers 00:56  |  vik 01/01/08
      126.   Targeted killings of hamas operatives do the trick 00:08  |  17 01/01/08
      127.   Roo #119 wrong and ignorant 00:17  |  Gee 01/01/08
      128.   #123 David of Boston 00:25  |  Chris Linthwaite 01/01/08
      129.   Persian Kitty # 111 It`s Not Israel Who Is Prolonging Hostilities 00:37  |  Jeff Northridge 01/01/08
      130.   so are we giving hamas a guarantee 00:37  |  harzion 01/01/08
      131.   roo you are quite right 00:43  |  yirmi 01/01/08
      132.   lightweight makes assumptions that fit right in with his profile 00:44  |  x-ray 01/01/08
      133.   Typical 00:48  |  Alain 01/01/08
      134.   khassam is a rocket?? 00:52  |  STILLALIVE 01/01/08
      135.   Gee #127 00:54  |  Roo 01/01/08
      136.   108. Don`t bomb innocent peole 00:57  |  a wandering Jew 01/01/08
      137.   The problem with that 00:01  |  Angel 01/01/08
      138.   INSANE! I`m a lawyer too....... 00:04  |  David 01/01/08
      139.   Why bother having elections? Bagatz can decide everything for us 00:05  |  Omri 01/01/08
      140.   #125 Vik 00:10  |  Space 01/01/08
      141.   SO BANG AN INJUNCTION ON HAMAS AND ISLAMIC JIHAD 00:11  |  Ian 01/01/08
      142.   4 year olds are not terrorists 00:15  |  Dave Duncan 01/01/08
      143.   roo "just like i said" 00:17  |  sasoon 01/01/08
      144.   War in the Post Napoleon Age 00:17  |  UsedToPostHere 01/01/08
      145.   Barak is an idiot for asking a lawyer how to fight a war 00:18  |  IW 01/01/08
      146.   re: Genuine Tosefta 00:18  |  UsedToPostHere 01/01/08
      147.   #13, Brad, don`t you see.... 00:30  |  Silvienne 01/01/08
      148.   Lawyers also advised Clinton not to take Bin Laden. 00:37  |  Yacov 01/01/08
      149.   #16, Ron... 00:40  |  Silvienne 01/01/08
      150.   #129, Jeff Northridge, you must be reading something else... 00:46  |  Silvienne 01/01/08
      151.   Shelling Sderot and Ashkelon is okay 00:46  |  peter 01/01/08
      152.   142,D.D.:NOT HAMAS TERRORISTS...... 00:47  |  Ian 01/01/08
      153.   #17, Adrian de Klerk... 00:50  |  Silvienne 01/01/08
      154.   The Self-Styled "Lawyers" in the TB... 00:02  |  JP 01/01/08
      155.   132 x-ray, an answer for you 00:16  |  Gerald 01/01/08
      156.   jurists opinions. 00:18  |  hiram janover 01/01/08
      157.   international law 00:20  |  rm 01/01/08
      158.   Silvienne -- Allow me to help 00:21  |  Angel 01/01/08
      159.   To: Dave Duncan 00:25  |  Angel 01/01/08
      160.   52 Peter Williams - Following US and Int`l Law 00:34  |  Mark of Lewiston 01/01/08
      161.   To: John Allen 00:36  |  Angel 01/01/08
      162.   To An American - Don`t Forget to Blame Egypt As Well 00:49  |  Lee 01/01/08
      163.   an american - have you ever visited gaza and Sudan? 00:55  |  David Israel 01/01/08
      164.   50 David Scot - Freedom of Expression 00:58  |  Mark of Lewiston 01/01/08
      165.   Angel the topic was how Israel defends itself 00:01  |  Dave Duncan 01/01/08
      166.   Silvienne # 150 I`m Reading The Law. What Are You Reading? 00:09  |  Jeff Northridge 01/01/08
      167.   yirmi sasoon #131 00:09  |  Roo 01/01/08
      168.   99 John Allen`s Milosevic Strategy 00:10  |  Mark of Lewiston 01/01/08
      169.   To: Mark of Lewiston 00:18  |  Angel 01/01/08
      170.   What`s acceptable to Duncan 00:22  |  SDHD 01/01/08
      171.   Jeff Northridge - Part I 00:28  |  Persian Kitty 01/01/08
      172.   Memo: ALL OF GAZA IS A "POPULATION CENTER" 00:32  |  peacelover 01/01/08
      173.   Jeff Northridge - Part II 00:36  |  Persian Kitty 01/01/08
      174.   116 John Allen 00:45  |  Mark of Lewiston 01/01/08
      175.   To: Dave Duncan 00:46  |  Angel 01/01/08
      176.   yirmi sasoon #131 00:50  |  Roo 01/01/08
      177.   118 John Allen - The Rummy-Milosevic Approach 00:53  |  Mark of Lewiston 01/01/08
      178.   #164 Mark of L on freedom of expression 00:57  |  peter 01/01/08
      179.   International Law is very clear on this point 00:08  |  Yaman Salahi 01/01/08
      180.   138 David - Are You a JAG? 00:08  |  Mark of Lewiston 01/01/08
      181.   Shelling Gaza 00:18  |  Jim 01/01/08
      182.   PROTECT YOURSELVES 00:20  |  jane 01/01/08
      183.   Bush`s bush 00:21  |  Jose Marcio 01/01/08
      184.   4 year olds are not terrorists 00:23  |  YES Dave BUT 01/01/08
      185.   Persian Kitty to JN. 00:27  |  Roo 01/01/08
      186.   169 Angel - Fully Aware 00:30  |  Mark of Lewiston 01/01/08
      187.   In the old days the enemy was decimated 00:31  |  then vs. now 01/01/08
      188.   Sderot, not IDF should fire back to wherever Quassams come from 00:37  |  Robert 01/01/08
      189.   Linthwaite 00:44  |  Philippe 01/01/08
      190.   #6 Yankel 00:47  |  Jim 01/01/08
      191.   178 Peter - Ignoring the Advice 00:48  |  Mark of Lewiston 01/01/08
      192.   #180 - David is right on target (sorry for the pun) 00:48  |  JP 01/01/08
      193.   Jurists tell Barak Dont Shell Gaza 00:48  |  Oskar Prager 01/01/08
      194.   lawyers never should be allowed to set strategy 00:55  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 01/01/08
      195.   Imagine a U.S. jurist saying same during chinese and korean war 00:56  |  he`d be committed 01/01/08
      196.   Mark of Lewiston 00:01  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 01/01/08
      197.   FOR THOSE INTERESTED 00:05  |  Mark of Lewiston 01/01/08
      198.   Stephen in Geneve 00:15  |  Persian Kitty 01/01/08
      199.   122 Shmuelshachor 00:18  |  Jose Marcio 01/01/08
      200.   CFOOL he wants to know the law and that amazes you? 00:23  |  PETER SM 01/01/08
      201.   189/191 Cipora - Got One Thing Right 00:23  |  Mark of Lewiston 01/01/08
      202.   #201, Mark 00:43  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 01/01/08
      203.   #191 Mark of L ignoring arab terror 00:55  |  peter 01/01/08
      204.   Persian Kitty # 171 & 173 The List Of Hezbollah Martyrs 00:10  |  Jeff Northridge 01/01/08
      205.   Roo #135 00:14  |  Gee 01/01/08
      206.   Jurists 00:16  |  The Teacher/Instruct 01/01/08
      207.   David in Boston and Jeff Northridge 00:35  |  Persian Kitty 01/01/08
      208.   #189 Philippe 00:36  |  Chris Linthwaite 01/01/08
      209.   #66 Jeff Northridge GPS or PPD guided? 00:42  |  Jim 01/01/08
      210.   #82 BBSNews 00:53  |  Jim 01/01/08
      211.   It is obvious that BBSNews has no clue. 00:25  |  Jerusalem Jew 01/01/08
      212.   Mark of L`s perverse notions 00:27  |  peter 01/01/08
      213.   #92 Rob "divide and conquer" Israeli style 00:40  |  Jim 01/01/08
      214.   Jeff Northridge 00:47  |  Persian Kitty 01/01/08
      215.   Gee #203 00:49  |  Roo 01/01/08
      216.   #114 Ofer 00:50  |  Jim 01/01/08
      217.   Gee #203 00:09  |  Roo 01/01/08
      218.   #1 Silvienne, perhaps you did not quite get it 00:32  |  Jake 01/01/08
      219.   President Truman and his international legal team 00:32  |  Ibrahim Shvonce 01/01/08
      220.   Silvienne - It shouldn`t make any difference 00:43  |  *BEN JABO 01/01/08
      221.   To McQueen in NYC 00:01  |  Otto Rand 01/01/08
      222.   #102 Michael, enough of the disingenuous ranting 00:11  |  Jake 01/01/08
      223.   Mark of Lewiston - you just don`t get it 00:44  |  Mark Lincoln 01/01/08
      224.   202 Cipora - They do Need Revision 00:03  |  Mark of Lewiston 01/01/08
      225.   Persian Kitty # 214 War Is Hell--What Did You Expect? 00:18  |  Jeff Northridge 01/01/08
      226.   Agree 00:19  |  American 01/01/08
      227.   191 Peter - Adopting Jihad and Hamas Tactics 00:28  |  Mark of Lewiston 01/01/08
      228.   Oh I do have a clue Jerusalem Jew... 00:35  |  BBSNews 01/01/08
      229.   What do you think would happen .... 00:37  |  Sean 01/01/08
      230.   Peter, answer Mark of L`s question... 00:45  |  BBSNews 01/01/08
      231.   Jeff Northridge - War is Hell? 00:27  |  Persian Kitty 01/01/08
      232.   Jeff Northridge - Part II 00:33  |  Persian Kitty 01/01/08
      233.   #153 silvienne - your right its an easy expalination 00:50  |  Adrian de Klerk 01/01/08
      234.   To: Otto 00:11  |  Angel 01/01/08
      235.   #64, Michael to Victor Hardman... 00:14  |  Silvienne 01/01/08
      236.   Hague Conventions and Geneva Protocols 00:17  |  Angel 01/01/08
      237.   #220, Ben Jabo.... 00:18  |  Silvienne 01/01/08
      238.   #218, Jake, possibly... 00:21  |  Silvienne 01/01/08
      239.   Oy Vey to the Victims, Yankel and Brad? 00:47  |  Whiskey Rivers 01/01/08
      240.   #224, Mark, revising the laws of war 00:06  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 01/01/08
      241.   # 207 Persian Kitty 00:21  |  The Teacher/Instruct 01/01/08
      242.   57: JB`s language deficit shows again 00:14  |  David Teich 01/01/08
      243.   237-8: Silvienne back and clueless, the usual... 00:19  |  David Teich 01/01/08
      244.   Persian Kitty # 231 & 232 It Was In An Haaretz Article 00:55  |  Jeff Northridge 01/01/08
      245.   #237 Silvienne - Etal is the Keyword 00:21  |  * BEN JABO 01/01/08
      246.   Silvienne - Didn`t you know? 00:26  |  *BEN JABO 01/01/08
      247.   #233, Adrian de Klerk sidesteps my question.... 00:44  |  Silvienne 01/01/08
      248.   #245, Ben Jabo... 00:53  |  Silvienne 01/01/08
      249.   #246, Ben Jabo... 00:56  |  Silvienne 01/01/08
      250.   Lintwhaite #208 00:41  |  Philippe 01/01/08
      251.   re: Mark of Lewiston 00:13  |  UsedToPostHere 01/01/08
      252.   Bibi...Where are you?? 00:50  |  Joe 01/01/08
      253.   #242 4th try to respond to David Teich 00:58  |  Johnboy 01/01/08
      254.   252: Bibi, Joe? He`ll just tax Sderot`s 00:16  |  David Teich 01/01/08
      255.   #248 2nd try SILVIENNE 00:14  |  *BEN JABO 01/01/08
      256.   #245-2 PART 2 Silvienne 00:18  |  *BEN JABO 01/01/08
      257.   #249 2ND TRY Silvienne - At last you finally admit it 00:23  |  *BEN JABO 01/01/08
      258.   Silvienne ran again, Ben Jabo 00:25  |  David Teich 01/01/08
      259.   What about the truth is bothering the censors this time? 00:26  |  David Teich 01/01/08
      260.   228: BBS and his lies are always good for a laugh (4th try) 00:27  |  David Teich 01/01/08
      261.   #260 That`s pretty funny, David Part 1 00:39  |  Johnboy 01/01/08
      262.   261: JB gets it wrong again 00:02  |  David Teich 01/01/08
      263.   #249 SILVIENNE..Never learns..Why not? 00:24  |  Ross 01/01/08
      264.   #262 That`s a laugh too, David. 00:12  |  Johnboy 01/01/08
      265.   264: JB`s avoidance is the true funny bit 00:29  |  David Teich 01/01/08
      266.   JB gets it wrong again, p2 (2nd try) 00:29  |  David Teich 01/01/08
      267.   #265 David, there is no difference 00:53  |  Johnboy 01/01/08
      268.   #266 2nd try to point out the bizarre "logic" of David 00:11  |  Johnboy 01/01/08
      269.   267: Yet again, JB refuses to address facts 00:26  |  David Teich 01/01/08
      270.   JB and David` 00:21  |  Alan from LA 01/01/09
      271.   I despair 00:52  |  Joan 01/01/09
      272.   #270 It just flies over your head, doesn`t it, Alan? 00:42  |  Johnboy 01/01/09
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