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Olmert warns of binational state if no peace deal reached
By Shahar Ilan and Barak Ravid
Tags: palestinians, primary, olmert

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said Monday that the price of an agreement with the Palestinians would "move us very close" to an exchange of equal amounts of territory, and that this must be stated "honestly and courageously." The alternative to an agreement is a binational state, an idea, he said that "ever-growing segments of the international community are adopting."

Speaking at a meeting of the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee, Olmert said the agreement now being formulated would give
the Palestinians 100 percent of the West Bank, or territory of a similar area.
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"I'll still be here," he told committee members who said they wanted to take advantage of the opportunity to wish him good-bye, in light of the Kadima primary Wednesday, which is expected to result in his resignation.

According to Olmert, by the end of 2008, it should be possible to attain understandings with the Palestinians on three issues: borders, security and refugees. However Olmert stressed that the implementation of the understandings is conditioned on the application of the Bush road map and eradication of the Palestinian terrorist infrastructures, and so implementation will take place at a much later stage. "It is important to reach understandings, even if their implementation is delayed," he said.

With regard to the refugee issue, Olmert said "under no circumstances will there be a right of return, but we are willing to be part of an international mechanism that will deal with a solution to the problem. I share in expressing regret over what happened to the Palestinians in 1948 and also to the Jews who were deported from Arab countries."

Olmert also said: "We will be sorry for every day that goes by without an agreeement with the Palestinians, and the person saying this is one who once held different opinions and even fought for them." Olmert said the price of not reaching an agreement quickly would be "intolerable."

Olmert said that even exchanging equal territory with the Palestinians would be "less than what we will have to pay in the future."

According to Olmert's proposal, the Palestinians would receive 93 percent of the West Bank and the equivalent of another approximately 5.5 percent of territory, in the Negev adjacent to the Gaza Strip, in exchange for the large settlement blocs, which would be annexed to Israel. Olmert has also proposed an international compensation mechanism for Palestinian refugees and the symbolic return of a few thousand such refugees without
Israel recognizing the right of return or responsibility for the creation of the Palestinian refugee problem.

Olmert reportedly wants to postpone discussion of Jerusalem, and to hold talks on that subject in a broad international framework.

The prime minister told the committee that there is a concern over "the entrenchment of the narrative of a binational state, in which we will not be the majority. Ever-growing segments of the international community are adopting the idea of a binational state. I see a Jewish state as a condition for our existence."

Olmert said an agreement would lead to international recognition of Israel's borders in the context of a two-state solution.

With regard to talks with Syria, Olmert said "when there is a price and in return the disengagement of Syria from the axis of evil, the question is whether it is worth paying the price." Banging on the table to emphasize his point, Olmert said "the answer is yes." He added that a "responsible government will arrive at my answer, and an irresponsible government will reach opposite answers."

Olmert told the committee that if Israel could reach an agreement with Syria, it could also reach an agreement with Lebanon, despite risks, which a strong government could take upon itself.

In response to a question about his position on exchanges of territory and populations, he said: "I am not in favor of taking a million Arabs out of Israel." Olmert said that an agreement with the Palestinians would make it much easier to solve problems involving Israel's Arab citizens.

MK Yuval Steinitz (Likud) created a stir when he said, referring to the border route between the southern Gaza Strip and Egypt: "The person who gave up the Philadelphi Route is an idiot." Olmert's bureau said they understood Steinitz was referring to the prime minister. However Steinitz responded that he was referring to "a minister whose name I am not prepared to mention in order not to influence the primary."



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      1.   Olmert`s only ideas are to give away israel 04:11  |  Jon 16/09/08
      2.   mert is giving what little peace Israel has left with his PIECE 04:14  |  glenna 16/09/08
      3.   Most Arabs left Palestine before the Arab invasion in May 1948 04:21  |  Steve 16/09/08
      4.   Palestinian fighters brought their wives with sacks for looting 04:21  |  Steve 16/09/08
      5.   In 1949, no one blamed Israel for the Palestinian refugees 04:23  |  Steve 16/09/08
      6.   What is a Binational state? 04:36  |  Sam 16/09/08
      7.   just olmert earning his pay from hamass 04:46  |  Arie 16/09/08
      8.   he makes Arafat look honest & Hamas look like friends of Israel 04:47  |  zionist forever 16/09/08
      9.   Swap the triangle region... 04:59  |  Gil 16/09/08
      10.   Always Do The Unexpected... 05:09  |  Yosemite 16/09/08
      11.   Another Alternative 05:20  |  Jew 16/09/08
      12.   Olmert talking straight 05:31  |  Paul 16/09/08
      13.   RE # 6 Sam i 05:32  |  GA 16/09/08
      14.   Well Think A Little Bit More... 05:45  |  Yosemite 16/09/08
      15.   above 05:57  |  Abraham Cohen 16/09/08
      16.   Get Rid Of Olmert Now, Israel 06:00  |  Jeff Northridge 16/09/08
      17.   The Jewish Homeland belongs to Jews only...democracy or not! 06:13  |  Chaim 16/09/08
      18.   Olmert 06:19  |  Rabbi Ashkenazi 16/09/08
      19.   "exchange of equal amounts of territory"? 06:20  |  Fish 16/09/08
      20.   If the majority of Israelis and Palestinians come to accept 06:31  |  Smadar 16/09/08
      21.   Olmert thinks Israel is a delicatessen 06:35  |  * BEN JABO 16/09/08
      22.   Transfer Is The Alternative: No Reward For Philistine Violence 06:35  |  Yishai Kohen 16/09/08
      23.   So, the talks are not going too well, hey Olmert? 06:35  |  Johnboy 16/09/08
      24.   Olmert supports a binational state 07:10  |  Meir Weinstein 16/09/08
      25.   I have a better idea... 07:11  |  Gili 16/09/08
      26.   Every hill in Samaria and every valley in Judea is part of ... 07:16  |  Jean Van Daem 16/09/08
      27.   OH, NO, OLMERT, NO SIR 07:17  |  indrajaya 16/09/08
      28.   "I`ll still be here" 07:20  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 16/09/08
      29.   That is only one possible alternative 07:23  |  Gregor 16/09/08
      30.   SO ONE CAN TALK ABOUT BINATIONAL BUT NOT TRANSFER! 07:24  |  Ben 16/09/08
      31.   "binational state is alternative" 07:24  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 16/09/08
      32.   The strategy of Israel`s WORST PM in its History! 07:27  |  Jacob 16/09/08
      33.   Olmert No One Wants To Hear from You Anymore 07:29  |  Dish It Out 16/09/08
      34.   international community ideas 07:33  |  Shmuelshachor 16/09/08
      35.   olmerde go home right now 07:49  |  BOB KING 16/09/08
      36.   WHEN is Olmert leaving - IF he is leaving at all........... 07:53  |  Dagma 16/09/08
      37.   What more can Olmert do to destroy Israel? 08:06  |  Dolly 16/09/08
      38.   #31 He`s trying to get Israeli heads out of the sand, Cipora 08:10  |  Johnboy 16/09/08
      39.   Olmert: Don`t accept peace & you`ll get the prize 08:19  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 16/09/08
      40.   Cipora Julianna Kohn 08:32  |  Daniel Leopold 16/09/08
      41.   It`s too late 08:35  |  ELIAS KHOURY 16/09/08
      42.   #38, JB 08:38  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 16/09/08
      43.   Ehud Olmert = The best Israeli PM ever...???? 08:43  |  Swiss (Dino) 16/09/08
      44.   Olmert is a moron 08:45  |  Frank 16/09/08
      45.   I`m NOT going Home...... 08:50  |  netta 16/09/08
      46.   Why does Abbas refuse and refuse and refuse? 08:53  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 16/09/08
      47.   The masks are falling.....even here on Haaretz Talkback !!! 09:00  |  Swiss (Dino) 16/09/08
      48.   #40, Daniel Leopold 09:07  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 16/09/08
      49.   Dino`s `brain capacity` 09:18  |  ho ho ho 16/09/08
      50.   Binational state is not dangerous to Jews, 09:24  |  Vital 16/09/08
      51.   Olmert - Give away what`s yours to give 09:31  |  Zev 16/09/08
      52.   Who`s afraid of a binational State 09:36  |  Beni 16/09/08
      53.   #47, Dino 09:40  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 16/09/08
      54.   # 31 to cipora re: "binational state" 09:48  |  eric 16/09/08
      55.   Cipora-#48-Olmert is a "has been" but his words may be prophetic 09:48  |  Daniel Leopold 16/09/08
      56.   Cipora-#48-Olmert is a "has been" but his words may be prophetic 09:48  |  Daniel Leopold 16/09/08
      57.   CIPORA # 48 - Let us not forget...... 09:49  |  Dagma 16/09/08
      58.   If a "bi national" state means that ... 09:52  |  Jew 16/09/08
      59.   #54, eric 10:17  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 16/09/08
      60.   Shallow thinking to go with his shallow character 10:25  |  Dr. L. Brnd 16/09/08
      61.   #55, Daniel Leopold and Dagma 10:26  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 16/09/08
      62.   Cyprus anyone?! 10:30  |  Zev Davis 16/09/08
      63.   # 31 to cipora re: one more thing 10:46  |  eric 16/09/08
      64.   See What Left After Iran War 10:50  |  Mark of Lewiston 16/09/08
      65.   #42 Yep, head in the sand.... 10:55  |  Johnboy 16/09/08
      66.   NO such thing.Just Arab rule with 6 million imported Arabs 10:55  |  PETER SM 16/09/08
      67.   Olmert is rephrasing the threat of Arab League 2007 Ryadh-Saudia 10:56  |  Joseph.E 16/09/08
      68.   Get Rid Off Kadima Defeatist Policies , 11:02  |  Joseph.E 16/09/08
      69.   The Power Behind the Throne...... 11:15  |  Dagma 16/09/08
      70.   so he`s allowed to say it.... 11:21  |  SD 16/09/08
      71.   # 61 to cipora re: olmert 11:26  |  eric 16/09/08
      72.   JOHNBOY Echoes of Apartheid."Islamic Republic Of Palestine from 11:37  |  PETER SM 16/09/08
      73.   eric #63 11:38  |  S 16/09/08
      74.   #73, S, and not to mention 12:08  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 16/09/08
      75.   Having anoher bad day at the office Jeff N 12:20  |  Labhras 16/09/08
      76.   Fatah option Condi-Olmert fiction that doesn`t exist in reality 12:21  |  G Marcus 16/09/08
      77.   Olmert?s post eulogy delivered by himself 12:24  |  H.H.M. 16/09/08
      78.   Olmert has it right and the zealots dont like it 12:46  |  Labhras 16/09/08
      79.   Deeds not words 12:48  |  Shaloom 16/09/08
      80.   #26 The Belgian immigrant singing himself into a trance again 12:59  |  Ben Alofs 16/09/08
      81.   Transfer is the alternative if no peace deal reached 12:59  |  peter 16/09/08
      82.   Olmert has courage to tell it like it is, in the face of fanatics 13:12  |  Ivar 16/09/08
      83.   # 81 peterchen, our "armchair-soldier" in Canada..... 13:17  |  Swiss (Dino) 16/09/08
      84.   HOW TO TRY OUT THE BINATIONAL STATE IDEA 13:25  |  Ian 16/09/08
      85.   #75 LABARSE OF AMERICA CHECKS IN AT BREAKFAST 13:27  |  v.hardman 16/09/08
      86.   Is Olmert Challenging the State of Israel....? 13:32  |  Dagma 16/09/08
      87.   Do not give away your birthright 13:36  |  lady from USA 16/09/08
      88.   #81 Getting desperate, Peter? Better read Johnboy (##23 and 38). 13:36  |  Ben Alofs 16/09/08
      89.   EXCHANGE OLMERT for JONATHAN POLLARD! 13:44  |  Dreyfuss 16/09/08
      90.   West Bank Arabs killed more Jews than Gaza did 13:45  |  lady from USA 16/09/08
      91.   Dino is getting very sour 13:51  |  ho ho ho 16/09/08
      92.   Yosemite 13:51  |  lady from USA 16/09/08
      93.   We found out that Olmert has `no ideas` too late 13:59  |  Ilan 16/09/08
      94.   a binational state is not something to be afraid of 14:00  |  Edith 16/09/08
      95.   #88 its time for dr ben to see a doctor 14:15  |  v.hardman 16/09/08
      96.   Lady From USA 14:41  |  Yosemite 16/09/08
      97.   #94 Edith 14:44  |  EZ 16/09/08
      98.   Edith 14:47  |  x-ray 16/09/08
      99.   How about Pals giving up their rockets first 14:51  |  Nach 16/09/08
      100.   How about Pals giving up their rockets first 14:51  |  Nach 16/09/08
      101.   #95 Victor Hardman, my prescription for you.. 14:52  |  Ben Alofs 16/09/08
      102.   Why apologize???? 14:55  |  Robert 16/09/08
      103.   hay our relatives 14:56  |  shaloom 16/09/08
      104.   To Daniel Leopold and Johnboy 14:58  |  lady from USA 16/09/08
      105.   94 15:27  |  zionist forever 16/09/08
      106.   The reason why Jews live in Israel Judea and Samaria 15:33  |  Settler Babe 16/09/08
      107.   NO to Palestinian State 15:39  |  lady from USA 16/09/08
      108.   Dr. L. Brnd has the best solution 15:44  |  lady from USA 16/09/08
      109.   eric 15:49  |  lady from USA 16/09/08
      110.   A Binational State 15:52  |  Yaakov Sullivan 16/09/08
      111.   Joseph.E`s idea is great. 15:56  |  lady from USA 16/09/08
      112.   And whom spent his entire administration? 16:00  |  Mark Lincoln 16/09/08
      113.   eric 16:02  |  lady from USA 16/09/08
      114.   S is right 16:04  |  lady from USA 16/09/08
      115.   lady from USA #107 16:05  |  examiner 16/09/08
      116.   ONLY 2 STATE SOLUTION: ISRAEL AND JORDAN 16:09  |  Joel Stein 16/09/08
      117.   Labhras 16:10  |  lady from USA 16/09/08
      118.   Edith # 94 There Is No Such Thing 16:12  |  Jeff Northridge 16/09/08
      119.   peter is right 16:17  |  lady from USA 16/09/08
      120.   Swiss (Dino) 16:26  |  lady from USA 16/09/08
      121.   If its a CHOICE between bi-national or transfer! 16:28  |  Yasif 16/09/08
      122.   There is not a single doubt in the minds..... 16:51  |  Dagma 16/09/08
      123.   AntiSemitism and Leftism 16:53  |  Brod 16/09/08
      124.   Yaakov Sullivan # 110 Incorrect Assumptions 16:53  |  Jeff Northridge 16/09/08
      125.   Olmert - one more day. 17:06  |  bat yam 16/09/08
      126.   Welcome back, Yaakov! The one and only Yaakov Sullivan. 17:11  |  Ben Alofs 16/09/08
      127.   Every Hill in "Samaria"..... 17:19  |  Abe Simhony 16/09/08
      128.   Antisemitism and leftism 17:34  |  Abe Simhony 16/09/08
      129.   Johnboy in Australia when were you in the ME? 17:36  |  Big Sur 16/09/08
      130.   #26 Jean Van Damn, reference Judea and Samaria 17:39  |  Big Sur 16/09/08
      131.   Jeff Northridge on Hostile Aliens 17:40  |  Yaakov Sullivan 16/09/08
      132.   Abbas said palestine would never recognise a jewish state 17:41  |  zionist forever 16/09/08
      133.   #47 Swiss Dino really? what side is that? 17:44  |  Big Sur 16/09/08
      134.   The name of Israel will be Palestine again in 25 years 17:49  |  Tulip 16/09/08
      135.   To bat yam # 125 - Olmert ......? 17:50  |  Dolly 16/09/08
      136.   81 Peter of Montreal - Lay that Out for Us 17:54  |  Mark of Lewiston 16/09/08
      137.   # 91 ho ho ho 17:54  |  Swiss (Dino) 16/09/08
      138.   #133 Tulip Sorry girl You are wrong Israel will be maintained 18:00  |  Big Sur 16/09/08
      139.   22 Yishai - Lay Out Your Plan 18:01  |  Mark of Lewiston 16/09/08
      140.   BI-NATIONAL STATE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED 18:02  |  DENNIS MI VI 16/09/08
      141.   # 132 Big Sur, very easy..... 18:10  |  Swiss (Dino) 16/09/08
      142.   #110 Yaakov Sullivan 18:13  |  Big Sur 16/09/08
      143.   THe best solution 18:19  |  igco 16/09/08
      144.   #131 Canada England USA Australia all recognise E Jerusalem 18:28  |  Big Sur 16/09/08
      145.   It`s really an obligation to sign an accord.... 18:35  |  Smadar 16/09/08
      146.   #138 Big Sur 18:41  |  Tulip 16/09/08
      147.   # 111 lady from USA 18:42  |  Joseph.E 16/09/08
      148.   Stop warning, and go home already, please. 18:43  |  Fortuna Benmayor 16/09/08
      149.   Swiss - as always, a"my way or you`re against peace" approach 18:44  |  Arie 16/09/08
      150.   Yaakov Sullivan # 131 My Replies (part 1) 18:49  |  Jeff Northridge 16/09/08
      151.   I agree with 140. Actually it`s already happening 18:53  |  SD 16/09/08
      152.   Zionist forever 18:54  |  lady from USA 16/09/08
      153.   For Margie in Tel Aviv 18:55  |  Asaf 16/09/08
      154.   Only at the end, do they speak truth 19:02  |  John 16/09/08
      155.   For Cipora # 48 19:02  |  Asaf 16/09/08
      156.   For Margie in Tel Aviv # 49 19:08  |  Asaf 16/09/08
      157.   bi national state 19:15  |  AMIHAI 16/09/08
      158.   bi national state 19:17  |  AMIHAI 16/09/08
      159.   #124 Jeff Northridge 19:18  |  Boycott 16/09/08
      160.   SD 19:25  |  lady from USA 16/09/08
      161.   binational wont work 19:27  |  arik 16/09/08
      162.   Olmert & Kadima have no mandate to commit Israel to anything. 19:33  |  Chaim 16/09/08
      163.   Olmert out NOW 19:35  |  Jonathan 16/09/08
      164.   Jeff Northridge Is Simply Incorrect 19:35  |  Yaakov Sullivan 16/09/08
      165.   Asaf 19:44  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 16/09/08
      166.   Yaakov Sullivan # 131 My Replies (part 3) 19:46  |  Jeff Northridge 16/09/08
      167.   Asaf on Cipora and the like 19:51  |  Yaakov Sullivan 16/09/08
      168.   # 119 / # 120 lady from USA 19:53  |  Swiss (Dino) 16/09/08
      169.   See This, Mark of Lewiston: I`m Not Re-Inventing The Wheel 20:03  |  Yishai Kohen 16/09/08
      170.   Bi-National? My bad 20:03  |  Yaakov Sullivan 16/09/08
      171.   #38 johnboy is the eu prepared to go all the way? 20:05  |  duncan 16/09/08
      172.   # 149 Arie, little test, will you subscribe..... 20:07  |  Swiss (Dino) 16/09/08
      173.   #81 Ben Alofs plays with videogameboy 20:08  |  peter 16/09/08
      174.   # 149 Arie, by the way, what`s the alternative to Olmert...??? 20:15  |  Swiss (Dino) 16/09/08
      175.   Let`s Split South, Central, and North America evenly 20:18  |  Jonathan 16/09/08
      176.   Jeff Northridge-wrong once again 20:19  |  Yaakov Sullivan 16/09/08
      177.   A binational state? The Arabs will not want it 20:36  |  Dogboy 16/09/08
      178.   I fully agree, Margie in Tel Aviv # 165 20:43  |  Asaf 16/09/08
      179.   #132 zionist forever playing the word game 20:47  |  Ben Alofs 16/09/08
      180.   #171 swiss dino, #3 reasons to vote for netanyahu 20:58  |  duncan 16/09/08
      181.   duncan on "defensible borders" #178 21:07  |  Yaakov Sullivan 16/09/08
      182.   #177: "Thank you, you couldn`t have said it better." 21:07  |  Andreas 16/09/08
      183.   #171 swiss dino 21:09  |  duncan 16/09/08
      184.   #145 Big Sur and embassies; sorry to break your bubble... 21:13  |  Ben Alofs 16/09/08
      185.   The Rwanda Approach 21:16  |  Scharker Yid 16/09/08
      186.   #174 Jonathan 21:17  |  Boycott 16/09/08
      187.   It`s back spewing again #170 21:24  |  Yaakov Sullivan 16/09/08
      188.   Easy solutions to Arabs´("Pals") existential problem 21:28  |  Alicia 16/09/08
      189.   #46 Margie asks why Abbas refuses 21:30  |  Labhras 16/09/08
      190.   #181 yakov 21:38  |  duncan 16/09/08
      191.   #150 - Jeff Northridge - u need to read this 21:38  |  A Bethlehemite 16/09/08
      192.   Israel is a binational state with two borders 21:39  |  American in NY 16/09/08
      193.   # 180 duncan, 3 reasons why I would not vote for Netanyahu.... 21:43  |  Swiss (Dino) 16/09/08
      194.   #179 ben alofs 21:47  |  duncan 16/09/08
      195.   Yaakov Sullivan # 175 Occupations 21:55  |  Jeff Northridge 16/09/08
      196.   # 183 duncan 22:03  |  Swiss (Dino) 16/09/08
      197.   169 Yishai - A Serious Proposal, but Unworkable 22:15  |  Mark of Lewiston 16/09/08
      198.   #140 dennis the menace airs his impractical dreams 22:20  |  v.hardman 16/09/08
      199.   Mark of Lewiston: Benny Elon`s Plan Is Very Workable 22:32  |  Yishai Kohen 16/09/08
      200.   Just remember this, all who doubt Israel 22:36  |  Big Sur 16/09/08
      201.   #165 Margie in Tel Aviv 22:38  |  Smadar 16/09/08
      202.   FREEZE EVERYTHING NOW TILL MERT GOES HOME 22:41  |  RW 16/09/08
      203.   duncan, simply put.... 22:41  |  yaakov sullivan 16/09/08
      204.   #132 Mr Alofs only right if it suits his needs 22:41  |  Big Sur 16/09/08
      205.   B.ALOFS Do not like population transfer?Not even Hamas ethnic 22:44  |  PETER SM 16/09/08
      206.   179 22:47  |  zionist forever 16/09/08
      207.   #172:responses Part 1 22:48  |  Arie 16/09/08
      208.   #172 Responses-Part 2 22:50  |  Arie 16/09/08
      209.   #138big Sur sorry little guy you are wrong Israeli population 22:52  |  Labhras 16/09/08
      210.   #170/#187- 22:53  |  Yaacov Sullivan 16/09/08
      211.   What ever happened to Arab Palestine? 22:53  |  Jeremy 16/09/08
      212.   To Swiss [Dino] 186 If you had the honour to be Israeli 22:55  |  Dolly 16/09/08
      213.   #203 Mr Sullivan Israel Continues to steal their land"? 22:57  |  Big Sur 16/09/08
      214.   #144 Big Sur--dont you ever get it right--Canda does NOT 23:03  |  Labhras 16/09/08
      215.   Lahbras and her high hopes 23:03  |  Big Sur 16/09/08
      216.   Not in Jail Yet? Gag this man, lock him up, throw away the key! 23:24  |  Baruch Gold 16/09/08
      217.   214 that is why Canada offered to send its embassy to Jerusalem 23:26  |  Big Sur 16/09/08
      218.   # 207 / # 208 Arie, let me show you my Israel "expertise"...... 23:30  |  Swiss (Dino) 16/09/08
      219.   Smadar 23:31  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 16/09/08
      220.   # 73 to "S" re: today 23:33  |  eric 16/09/08
      221.   Israel, when will you learn? 23:35  |  Karla 16/09/08
      222.   #215 Big Sur give me credible facts not contents of your head 23:38  |  Labhras 16/09/08
      223.   #196 swiss 23:38  |  duncan 16/09/08
      224.   A binational state cannot be forced on Israel 23:39  |  Joe Frazier 16/09/08
      225.   # 212 Dolly, I see you like "macho-men"....... 23:41  |  Swiss (Dino) 16/09/08
      226.   Alternative to olmert-easy answer 23:41  |  Arie 16/09/08
      227.   #2132 Big Sur stick to the point. 23:44  |  Labhras 16/09/08
      228.   #212 Dolly what honour--it is the most disliked 23:48  |  Labhras 16/09/08
      229.   #196 swiss dino 23:55  |  duncan 16/09/08
      230.   Big Sur # 144 America does not recognize East Jerusalem as Israel 23:55  |  American in NY 16/09/08
      231.   # 109 to lady from usa re: muslims/jews 23:56  |  eric 16/09/08
      232.   No Land for peace – NATHANYAHU FOR PM 23:58  |  RW 16/09/08
      233.   Labrhas - Tsk tsk 00:00  |  Elihu 17/09/08
      234.   Irish rubbernecker pointing fingers 00:04  |  peter 17/09/08
      235.   Labhras – you are so disrespectful to yourself. 00:11  |  Huh? 17/09/08
      236.   # 113 to lady from usa re: international community 00:12  |  eric 17/09/08
      237.   #116 Joel Stein 00:48  |  Courcey 17/09/08
      238.   #144 Big Sur 00:55  |  Boycott 17/09/08
      239.   #220 Huh aint you got a name--Huh 00:59  |  Labhras 17/09/08
      240.   #211 Jeremy 01:05  |  Boycott 17/09/08
      241.   Lets face it 01:15  |  Yaman Salahi 17/09/08
      242.   199 Yishai Kohen - After the War 01:51  |  Mark of Lewiston 17/09/08
      243.   to Big Sur #144 - ill informed 02:22  |  zeev 17/09/08
      244.   eric,222, You sound like a child.."my brother can beat up yours" 02:45  |  The Equalizer 17/09/08
      245.   to CJ Kohn #74 02:53  |  zeev 17/09/08
      246.   to CJ Kohn #42 03:34  |  zeev 17/09/08
      247.   # 73 to "S" re: today (2nd try) 04:03  |  eric 17/09/08
      248.   A Bethlehemite # 191 That Is An UNGAR 05:07  |  Jeff Northridge 17/09/08
      249.   # 73 to "S" re: today (2nd try) 06:11  |  eric 17/09/08
      250.   #231-232, zeev 08:39  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 17/09/08
      251.   clueless eric 08:58  |  x-ray 17/09/08
      252.   to Steve #4 - not a bad idea - (2nd try) 08:59  |  zeev 17/09/08
      253.   ANY `America` recognises all of Jerusalem as Israel 09:00  |  x-ray 17/09/08
      254.   Big day for Labhras 09:04  |  x-ray 17/09/08
      255.   #248 Jeff hops on his hobby-horse again. 09:25  |  Johnboy 17/09/08
      256.   settler babe? isn`t that a paradox 10:00  |  david thanos 17/09/08
      257.   # 244 to the...ehemm..."equalizer" re: stupid analogies 10:00  |  eric 17/09/08
      258.   Mark Lincoln #112, survey says Olmert? 10:02  |  ELIAS KHOURY 17/09/08
      259.   Big Sur and Northridge smoking some good stuff 10:06  |  ELIAS KHOURY 17/09/08
      260.   jeff northridge and his so called recognition 10:10  |  stavros 17/09/08
      261.   Bethlehemite, get a life! 10:19  |  Zev Davis 17/09/08
      262.   either one state or split the country in half 10:52  |  Ricky Marino 17/09/08
      263.   He`s NOT representing Jews with these words, the madman 10:54  |  Harvey 17/09/08
      264.   #255 johnboy 12:38  |  duncan 17/09/08
      265.   to CJ Kohn #250 13:42  |  zeev 17/09/08
      266.   #256, zeev 14:09  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 17/09/08
      267.   #246, zeev 14:16  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 17/09/08
      268.   eric 14:46  |  lady from USA 17/09/08
      269.   eric again 14:47  |  lady from USA 17/09/08
      270.   Swiss(Dino) 15:01  |  lady from USA 17/09/08
      271.   #259 zeev, so which county is it ? 19:44  |  duncan 17/09/08
      272.   #262 ricky, education is the key to peace 19:59  |  duncan 17/09/08
      273.   #264 duncan; looking for law in all the wrong places 05:05  |  Johnboy 18/09/08
      274.   to CJ Kohn #266 - part 1 08:11  |  zeev 18/09/08
      275.   to CJ Kohn #266 - part 2/2 08:13  |  zeev 18/09/08
      276.   to duncan #271 - news for you 08:15  |  zeev 18/09/08
      277.   to duncan #272 08:16  |  zeev 18/09/08
      278.   #`s 251 & 253 x-ray re: definition: 09:39  |  eric 18/09/08
      279.   to CJ Kohn #267 09:59  |  zeev 18/09/08
      280.   #264 Trying again to respond, duncan 10:11  |  Johnboy 18/09/08
      281.   #273, zeev 10:31  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 18/09/08
      282.   #278, zeev 12:25  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 18/09/08
      283.   #279 johnboy 13:15  |  duncan 18/09/08
      284.   #276 zeev, the allianace is strong 13:23  |  duncan 18/09/08
      285.   to CJ Kohn #280 14:05  |  zeev 18/09/08
      286.   to CJ Kohn #282 15:55  |  zeev 18/09/08
      287.   to duncan #284 16:44  |  zeev 18/09/08
      288.   #285 zeev 22:46  |  duncan 18/09/08
      289.   #286 zeev, is this a contradiction ? 22:50  |  duncan 18/09/08
      290.   #283 johnboy p2 22:58  |  duncan 18/09/08
      291.   #273 johnboy 23:08  |  duncan 18/09/08
      292.   zeev 23:55  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 18/09/08
      293.   #290 johnboy p3 02:00  |  duncan 19/09/08
      294.   to duncan #289 - part 2/2 03:22  |  zeev 19/09/08
      295.   #290 Coulda`, shoulda`, woulda`, duncan 04:46  |  Johnboy 19/09/08
      296.   #290 duncan, again... 04:54  |  Johnboy 19/09/08
      297.   to duncan #288 - part 1- news for you again 04:55  |  zeev 19/09/08
      298.   to duncan #288 - part 2/2 04:57  |  zeev 19/09/08
      299.   #291 duncan asks some more questions 05:44  |  Johnboy 19/09/08
      300.   #290 duncan, on the 2nd question you ask 05:56  |  Johnboy 19/09/08
      301.   to duncan #289 - part 1 (2nd try) 06:17  |  zeev 19/09/08
      302.   #293 duncan asks a plethera of questions 06:38  |  Johnboy 19/09/08
      303.   duncan 06:56  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 19/09/08
      304.   # 269 to lady from usa re: the future 08:46  |  eric 19/09/08
      305.   to duncan - on CJ Kohn #303 11:41  |  zeev 19/09/08
      306.   #302 johnboy 13:03  |  duncan 19/09/08
      307.   #295 johnboy 19:29  |  duncan 19/09/08
      308.   #299 johnboy, place of residence 19:30  |  duncan 19/09/08
      309.   #300 johnboy 19:32  |  duncan 19/09/08
      310.   #297, 298 zeev 19:43  |  duncan 19/09/08
      311.   #294 zeev what the Palestinians want 19:45  |  duncan 19/09/08
      312.   #294 zeev, is there a difference 19:50  |  duncan 19/09/08
      313.   to duncan #311 23:11  |  zeev 19/09/08
      314.   to duncan #310 00:25  |  zeev 20/09/08
      315.   #306 A nonsensical question, duncan 06:27  |  Johnboy 20/09/08
      316.   #307 A very unwise suggestion, duncan 10:03  |  Johnboy 20/09/08
      317.   #308 A distinction without a difference, duncan 10:15  |  Johnboy 20/09/08
      318.   #309 No, read his interview again, duncan 10:28  |  Johnboy 20/09/08
      319.   to duncan - more on #310 11:56  |  zeev 20/09/08
      320.   to duncan #312 (3rd try) 12:46  |  zeev 20/09/08
      321.   #315 johnboy, sucessor states 02:03  |  duncan 21/09/08
      322.   317 johnboy, place of residence 02:32  |  duncan 21/09/08
      323.   #313 zeev 02:54  |  duncan 21/09/08
      324.   #332 The UN didn`t ask them for their consent, duncan 10:45  |  Johnboy 21/09/08
      325.   #318 johnboy morris the universalist ethicist (2nd try) 13:11  |  duncan 21/09/08
      326.   #273 johnboy un sec 242 13:18  |  duncan 21/09/08
      327.   #319 zeev false analogy to sa 13:46  |  duncan 21/09/08
      328.   to duncan #323 - 3rd try 18:13  |  zeev 21/09/08
      329.   #328 zeev fatah constituition. 19:43  |  duncan 21/09/08
      330.   #316 johnboy legislate on ror (2nd try) 20:09  |  duncan 21/09/08
      331.   to duncan #327 - part 1 21:54  |  zeev 21/09/08
      332.   to duncan #327 - part 2 21:55  |  zeev 21/09/08
      333.   to duncan #327 - part 3/3 21:56  |  zeev 21/09/08
      334.   #325 duncan and "moral ethnic cleansing" 04:12  |  Johnboy 22/09/08
      335.   #326 Perhaps you`d better read 242, duncan 04:17  |  Johnboy 22/09/08
      336.   #330 No, duncan, it does not. 04:25  |  Johnboy 22/09/08
      337.   #324 duncan and the hebrew version of 242 04:37  |  Johnboy 22/09/08
      338.   to duncan #329 - 2nd try 05:04  |  zeev 22/09/08
      339.   #334 johnboy, morris ethics 12:32  |  duncan 22/09/08
      340.   #335 johnboy un 242 12:33  |  duncan 22/09/08
      341.   #336 johnboy, refugees 12:36  |  duncan 22/09/08
      342.   #340 Not true, duncan 01:42  |  Johnboy 23/09/08
      343.   #337 johnboy west bank status 02:36  |  duncan 24/09/08
      344.   #342 johnboy on caragon on 242 02:38  |  duncan 24/09/08
      345.   331-333 zeev p1 02:42  |  duncan 24/09/08
      346.   #338 zeev fatah covenant not been abrogated 02:45  |  duncan 24/09/08
      347.   #343 You`re not going to like this, duncan.... 06:00  |  Johnboy 24/09/08
      348.   #343 What *are* you talking about, duncan? 06:04  |  Johnboy 24/09/08
      349.   #344 duncan, round and round we go 06:18  |  Johnboy 24/09/08
      350.   #344 And we keep going back to the beginning... 06:35  |  Johnboy 24/09/08
      351.   #321 I`ll try again to reply to this, duncan 06:49  |  Johnboy 24/09/08
      352.   #346 Got to butt in here, duncan 07:03  |  Johnboy 24/09/08
      353.   #347 johnboy terra nullius has widespread support 23:17  |  duncan 24/09/08
      354.   #348 johnboy palestinian claim to wb 23:19