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Prime Minister Ehud Olmert addressing the cabinet during its weekly meeting in Jerusalem on Sunday. (Getty Images)
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Olmert: There's no such thing as 'Greater Israel' anymore
By Barak Ravid, Haaretz Correspondent and Reuters
Tags: West Bank 

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert on Sunday reiterated his position that the vision of Israel holding onto the West Bank and Gaza Strip as part of its sovereign territory was finished.

"Greater Israel is over. There is no such thing. Anyone who talks that way is deluding themselves," Olmert told the cabinet during its weekly meeting.

He added, though, that this had not always been his stance: "During Camp David I thought that [then prime minister] Ehud Barak's concessions were too much, and I told him as much.
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"I thought that land from the Jordan River through to the sea was all ours, but ultimately, after a long and tortured process, I arrived at the conclusion that we must share with those we live with, if we don't want to be a bi-national state."

Meanwhile on Sunday, Channel 2 reported that Olmert will meet Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas on Tuesday in a last ditch effort to reach agreement on a peace deal with the Palestinians before he steps down when his Kadima party chooses a successor on Wednesday.

Olmert will meet Abbas to try to conclude a U.S.-backed peace plan before President George W. Bush leaves office at the end of this year.

Israeli and Palestinian officials said the parties were working to arrange a meeting this week but that no final date had been set.

Although Olmert has promised to resign after the Kadima ballot, he could stay on as caretaker prime minister for weeks or months until his successor forms a new government.

The media reports said that apart from discussing ongoing issues, Olmert could tell Abbas about a new compensation plan for thousands of Jewish settlers willing to leave their homes in the occupied West Bank.

Sunday's cabinet session focused on the evacuation-compensation bill, which proposes offering NIS 1.1 million to families willing to move out of West Bank settlements.

During the meeting, Vice Premier Haim Ramon presented the cabinet with an outline of bill, which is estimated at a total cost of NIS 2.5 billion. The plan would offer settlers who choose to relocate to the Negev an additional 25 percent compensation and those who agree to move the Galilee region an additional 15 percent.

18 percent of the 60,000 settlers currently living in the West Bank have said they would be willing to relocate. A survey conducted by the Prime Minister's Office showed that more than 11,000 settlers living beyond the security barrier would agree to leave their homes.

Ramon told the cabinet members that, "The evacuation of residents of Judea and Samaria is an unavoidable step for those who believe in two states for two peoples - and that includes most of the Israeli public."

Ramon added that Israel's position in negotiations with the Palestinians and in the eyes of the international community would only be bolstered by an announcement that Israel wants to end its presence in the West Bank.

Shas party Chairman Eli Yishai voiced his opposition to the plan, saying "Whoever brings about the evacuation of settlers will lead to the evacuation of Jerusalem and to the eradication of the Jewish identity."

Yishai said that his ultra-Orthodox Shas would do everything in its power to prevent the proposal from being implemented. "This legislation is a colossal strategic mistake and presents Israel as lacking in principles. We still have not recovered from the cursed expulsion and there are people dragging us into further expulsion," he said, referring to Israel's 2005 disengagement from the Gaza Strip.

Public Security Minister Avi Dichter said: "This discussion is fundamentally flawed and problematic. It is a little like putting the cart before the horse. Even if homes are legally demolished, it will be hard to prevent them from being rebuilt, and it could get violent. Voluntary evacuation will only serve to weaken rather than strengthening Israel."


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      1.   No land no peace 15:35  |  Sam 14/09/08
      2.   More Defeatest, Leftist Lies from the most Corrupt PM ever 15:39  |  Yael 14/09/08
      3.   If it is such a great plan, then offer it to all Israelis 15:45  |  Shlomo 14/09/08
      4.   Just wait for the next elections 15:47  |  Vitaly 14/09/08
      5.   if olmert had his way there would be no Israel 15:52  |  Arie 14/09/08
      6.   No such thing as `greater Israel` anymore 15:54  |  Nathan Phatti 14/09/08
      7.   This isn`t enough! 15:54  |  Keith T. 14/09/08
      8.   Evacuated settlements to be immediately occupied, guarded by Pals 15:58  |  Ivar 14/09/08
      9.   What WB Settlements is Olmert Speaking Of? 16:03  |  Ron 14/09/08
      10.   Who`s Deluding Themselves? 16:04  |  IW 14/09/08
      11.   Olmert still talking? 16:05  |  bernard ross 14/09/08
      12.   The Other Item 16:06  |  Ron 14/09/08
      13.   and jerusalem? 16:19  |  amihai 14/09/08
      14.   There never was a concept of a `Greater Israel`l 16:35  |  Dagma 14/09/08
      15.   ehud is looking to cash in himself 16:37  |  henry 14/09/08
      16.   Greater Israel will be established eventually 16:38  |  Nick Potzayid 14/09/08
      17.   strange country 16:39  |  Abba 14/09/08
      18.   Bi-National State is Israel goal? 16:43  |  John Allen 14/09/08
      19.   NO SUCH THING AS OLMERT ANYMORE 16:45  |  HENRY MANN 14/09/08
      20.   The U.S and Israel have ONE (troubling) thing in common 16:56  |  Swiss (Dino) 14/09/08
      21.   Words of an embittered man called Olmert..... 17:03  |  Dolly 14/09/08
      22.   How dumb is dumb? 17:05  |  Danite 14/09/08
      23.   olmert 17:23  |  zion 14/09/08
      24.   Pity Olmert getting started only so late in his career... 17:27  |  Esther 14/09/08
      25.   Mr Olmert 17:36  |  Abe Pollack 14/09/08
      26.   why relocate? 17:38  |  Don Quinne 14/09/08
      27.   To Danite 17:40  |  Otto 14/09/08
      28.   Money talks? 17:42  |  Danny SonehDat 14/09/08
      29.   The first step to Kadima redemption should be... 17:47  |  Esther 14/09/08
      30.   Winograd Commission Warned Against Kadima "Grevious Lack of Ratio 17:48  |  Joseph.E 14/09/08
      31.   where is all this money going to come from? 17:49  |  virginia orrall 14/09/08
      32.   that is a surprise! 17:50  |  ClearCut 14/09/08
      33.   Man. Running. Scared. 17:57  |  Johnboy 14/09/08
      34.   Defeatest and Helpless 18:08  |  Brod 14/09/08
      35.   As Qassam falls from Gaza, Olmert wants more Arab Launching Pads 18:10  |  Good Morning 14/09/08
      36.   #26 - responce 18:10  |  answers in nyc 14/09/08
      37.   what`s flawed is Avi Dichter`s support for international outlaws 18:14  |  Dutch 14/09/08
      38.   As with Sharon, he is developing a conscience at the end 18:16  |  Natallie Durson 14/09/08
      39.   Few nations can match the fundamental legitimacy that Israel has. 18:19  |  Jean Van Daem 14/09/08
      40.   #20 Dino, sharp observation 18:23  |  Mark B. 14/09/08
      41.   19 Henry Mann, Re The real defeatists 18:32  |  Dutch 14/09/08
      42.   The Picture of Olmert giving the above Speech 18:44  |  Natasha 14/09/08
      43.   # 40 Thanks very much Markie...... 18:44  |  Swiss (Dino) 14/09/08
      44.   Quinne - If the settlers don`t go, there is no 18:57  |  spyguy 14/09/08
      45.   WAKE UP!! 18:59  |  Jeff 14/09/08
      46.   #26 Don Quinne 19:02  |  Space 14/09/08
      47.   smolmert 19:17  |  gavriel eskel 14/09/08
      48.   to #18 John - You Misunderstood - Israel is NOT looking... 19:19  |  B`Galil 14/09/08
      49.   #43 Dino, wish I could feel with you, but... 19:25  |  Mark B. 14/09/08
      50.   Ah well, Jean #39... 19:25  |  Esther 14/09/08
      51.   Kadima is a Danger to Israel 19:30  |  Joseph.E 14/09/08
      52.   finally 19:30  |  wh 14/09/08
      53.   Only 60,000 settlers in the West Bank !!!!! 19:46  |  Cynic #2 14/09/08
      54.   second try about numbers 19:47  |  S 14/09/08
      55.   #16 Nick Potzayid please do not sully Irelands name 19:48  |  Labhras 14/09/08
      56.   When more is less 20:05  |  Morris Valentine 14/09/08
      57.   third try, (second try flied out by itself): about numbers 20:05  |  S 14/09/08
      58.   To spyguy # 44 - Israel will give up Nothing! 20:49  |  Dagma 14/09/08
      59.   spyguy # 44 - so there will be no land for the Palestinians..... 21:10  |  Natasha 14/09/08
      60.   Better to see a GREAT country of Israel, than Greater Israel... 21:11  |  Smadar 14/09/08
      61.   Olmert says `We must share with those we live with`.... 21:35  |  netta 14/09/08
      62.   Otto 22:04  |  Danite 14/09/08
      63.   Olmert: There`s no such thing as `Greater Israel` anymore 22:23  |  Rodger Bowers 14/09/08
      64.   Olmert:there is no such thing as `Greater Israel` anmore 22:27  |  martin list, m.d. 14/09/08
      65.   Natallie #38 22:45  |  Esther 14/09/08
      66.   S #57....??? 22:57  |  Esther 14/09/08
      67.   Well, if Olmert says so, it must be true 23:00  |  I 14/09/08
      68.   When Olmert joined the Ant-semite Orchestra. 23:18  |  Akram Zekaria 14/09/08
      69.   60,000 settlers--actually it is 250,000 23:49  |  Labhras 14/09/08
      70.   no one cares how you arrived at your tortured decisions 23:51  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 14/09/08
      71.   Dagma & Natasha - The Palestinians are NOT 23:53  |  spyguy 14/09/08
      72.   There will soon be NO SUCH THING as PM Olmert 00:07  |  Yaakov K. 15/09/08
      73.   no such PM in power anymore but greater Israel lives always 00:26  |  Just D. Facts 15/09/08
      74.   Olmert is a Lame Duck Who Has No Moral Authority To Act. 00:32  |  Kern 15/09/08
      75.   Ther`s no such thing as an Olmert anymore! 00:58  |  Nat Weinstein 15/09/08
      76.   Israel is greater....but no thanks to OLDMERDE 00:59  |  jewish doctor 15/09/08
      77.   ISRAEL SOVEREIGNTY GONE THANKS TO OLDEMERDE GIVEAWAYS, ABANDONMEN 01:02  |  DAv zee 15/09/08
      78.   Fresh Canadian Oleh`s opinion... 01:11  |  Oren 15/09/08
      79.   Olmert is now wearing Depends! 01:14  |  Webster 15/09/08
      80.   Olmert will share the same premisses with I.Amir 01:20  |  Natasha 15/09/08
      81.   there can be no peace.. 01:24  |  wibism 15/09/08
      82.   there can be no peace.. 01:29  |  wibism 15/09/08
      83.   # 61 netta 02:24  |  Axel 15/09/08
      84.   #53 Israel is counting her chickens before they hatch 03:44  |  Johnboy 15/09/08
      85.   Natasha why do we need the US 04:53  |  antoine 15/09/08
      86.   The Land Belongs to the Tenacious 06:31  |  Steve 15/09/08
      87.   Israeli leader is right! 06:49  |  Mikko Sintunen 15/09/08
      88.   Israeli leader is right! 06:49  |  Mikko Sintunen 15/09/08
      89.   Less, Less and Gone 06:53  |  MIke 15/09/08
      90.   Ok, Geniuses 08:26  |  I learned to read 15/09/08
      91.   johnboy the expert in sfa mixesthe past present and future 08:51  |  v.hardman 15/09/08
      92.   Mo matter what this Pygmy says: 09:01  |  Akram Zekaria 15/09/08
      93.   Thank you to Ronnie Ron`s cell mate 09:21  |  Ilan 15/09/08
      94.   no such thing as greater israel 09:49  |  anti-zionist 15/09/08
      95.   Olmert 10:02  |  Dan 15/09/08
      96.   didn`t this guy ever play monopoly or what? 10:05  |  old maid loser 15/09/08
      97.   So, did it seem to anyone else here that 10:12  |  Che Vive 15/09/08
      98.   No More 10:12  |  eva 15/09/08
      99.   Arabs are attempting to but it`s full of "israelis". 10:16  |  Fritz 15/09/08
      100.   87# Mikko Sinttunnen:How convinceing some times lies are ! 10:17  |  Akram Zekaria 15/09/08
      101.   SAM Where is the peace with land? Missiles from Jewfree Gaza 10:20  |  PETER SM 15/09/08
      102.   Israel needs to downsize 10:22  |  John 15/09/08
      103.   "ISLAMIC Reublic of Palestine from the river to the sea" OFFICIAL 10:23  |  PETER SM 15/09/08
      104.   NO ISRAEL.Iran and Hezballah! What are THEIR intentions?? 10:26  |  PETER SM 15/09/08
      105.   #57, S 10:28  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 15/09/08
      106.   How many Israelis still (secretly) support "Greater Israel" ??? 10:28  |  Swiss (Dino) 15/09/08
      107.   #16 Mick Potzayed 10:32  |  JIm 15/09/08
      108.   ANTI ZIONIST How much of your own money you putting up? 10:36  |  PETER SM 15/09/08
      109.   Olmert trying to be honest 10:42  |  Dan 15/09/08
      110.   Same folk say "There is not such thing as the Torah anymore" 10:45  |  Binyamin Dissen 15/09/08
      111.   JUST READ THESE POSTERS HERE 10:55  |  indrajaya 15/09/08
      112.   #91 Here we go again! 10:56  |  Johnboy 15/09/08
      113.   TOO BAD, OLMERT 11:12  |  indrajaya 15/09/08
      114.   #94 ITS EASIER ANTI ZIONIST TO DO THE SAME WITH ARABS 11:29  |  v.hardman 15/09/08
      115.   #60 Smadar 11:30  |  Jim 15/09/08
      116.   #71 spyguy 11:35  |  Jim 15/09/08
      117.   #84 Johnboy Egad! I has a teacher like that once! 11:52  |  Jim 15/09/08
      118.   #V. Hardman. "Time for Arabs to move to Arab countries.` 12:05  |  Maureen Ann 15/09/08
      119.   #90 I learned to read 12:06  |  Jim 15/09/08
      120.   #113 jb HAS HIS KNICKERS IN ATWIST AGAIN 12:07  |  v.hardman 15/09/08
      121.   INDRRAJAYA WHY NOT READ YOUR BROTHERS?? 12:17  |  PETER SM 15/09/08
      122.   #94 anti-zionist 12:21  |  Jim 15/09/08
      123.   JOHNBOY LAW the UN or anything else has never stopped your side 12:31  |  PETER SM 15/09/08
      124.   A visionary Prime Minister, who takes too long 12:42  |  The Observer 15/09/08
      125.   to 111 indrajaya, We are not hiding girl 12:54  |  JP 15/09/08
      126.   to 111 indrajaya, We are not hiding 12:55  |  JP 15/09/08
      127.   to 111 indrajaya, We are not hiding 12:55  |  JP 15/09/08
      128.   to 111 indrajaya, We are not hiding girl 12:55  |  JP 15/09/08
      129.   #20 Swiss (Dino), true indeed! 13:00  |  Ben Alofs 15/09/08
      130.   There`s no such thing? 13:05  |  Jim 15/09/08
      131.   Be Dam Va Eish Eit Peres-Olmert-Kadima Tzarikh Le Guaresh 13:08  |  Joseph.E 15/09/08
      132.   Olmert: there is no such thing as Israel 14:10  |  Jonathan S 15/09/08
      133.   We Must Not Repeat Gaza Disengagement , We Must Oust Kadima 14:11  |  Joseph.E 15/09/08
      134.   Arabs Presence in Israel is liable to lead to subversion , 14:17  |  Joseph.E 15/09/08
      135.   INDRAJAYA WHY NOT READ YOUR BROTHERS INSTEAD 14:29  |  PETER SM 15/09/08
      136.   JOHNBOYSINCE when did your side worry about Mandate,UN or Law?? 14:35  |  PETER SM 15/09/08
      137.   #87 Sintunen 14:39  |  Alicia 15/09/08
      138.   Nat Weinstein 14:46  |  Yakov 15/09/08
      139.   Olmert: 14:49  |  Ralph 15/09/08
      140.   @Natallie Durson 14:52  |  Ralph 15/09/08
      141.   Indrajaya re posts in caps--leave that to those with no message 15:19  |  Labhras 15/09/08
      142.   petersm ever tried posting in lowercase 15:24  |  Labhras 15/09/08
      143.   No Word of God, no peace 15:41  |  lady from USA 15/09/08
      144.   Bush pressure got to Olmert 15:51  |  lady from USA 15/09/08
      145.   Abba 15:55  |  lady from USA 15/09/08
      146.   Swiss(Dino) 16:01  |  lady from USA 15/09/08
      147.   Johnboy # 84 My World View 16:13  |  Jeff Northridge 15/09/08
      148.   Swiss (Dino) #106 16:27  |  Gil 15/09/08
      149.   Swiss (Dino) #106 16:28  |  Gil 15/09/08
      150.   To Abba in New York 16:33  |  Jackie 15/09/08
      151.   Don Quinne asks 16:38  |  Jackie 15/09/08
      152.   Yawn, Olmert say somethng new? 16:48  |  peter 15/09/08
      153.   Olmert Don`t you dare sell my birthright 16:55  |  Big Sur 15/09/08
      154.   Jerusalem 16:58  |  Big Sur 15/09/08
      155.   60,000, 250,000 nope, 500,000 halutzim 16:58  |  peter 15/09/08
      156.   Everyone talks 17:05  |  Jackie 15/09/08
      157.   Rodger Bowers 17:06  |  lady from USA 15/09/08
      158.   Dear Peter Amein to that 17:20  |  Robert/Montreal 15/09/08
      159.   #142 Big Sir and Jerusalem Amein to that 17:22  |  Robert/Montreal 15/09/08
      160.   #146 Lady of USA 17:25  |  Big Sur 15/09/08
      161.   Political Movement? 17:29  |  zaz 15/09/08
      162.   Johnboy # 84 My World View (part 2) 17:33  |  Jeff Northridge 15/09/08
      163.   #1 Sam - You`re almost correct 17:46  |  * BEN JABO 15/09/08
      164.   #118 Maureen Ann - Look at a map, why don`t you 17:51  |  * BEN JABO 15/09/08
      165.   Jeff Northridge is sulking... 17:54  |  Ibrahim 15/09/08
      166.   Israel’s “Right” To The Land? 17:56  |  Mike 15/09/08
      167.   Jeff Northridge`s World View... 18:01  |  Ibrahim 15/09/08
      168.   #155 iBRAHIM, sorry you are wrong. 18:06  |  Big Sur 15/09/08
      169.   #36 Answer in NYC 18:06  |  ballistic 15/09/08
      170.   Esther/Cipora Amazing NO ONE WONDERS ABOUT THE WRONG ARTICLE MATH 18:15  |  S 15/09/08
      171.   #86 Steve 18:19  |  ballistic 15/09/08
      172.   #163 Ballistic - Can`t see straight 18:40  |  * BEN JABO 15/09/08
      173.   #166 BalisticThe So Called Squatters and US involvement 18:45  |  Big Sur 15/09/08
      174.   # 129 Ben Alofs 18:50  |  Swiss (Dino) 15/09/08
      175.   # 142 lady from USA 18:55  |  Swiss (Dino) 15/09/08
      176.   # 145 Gil, please don`t be ridiculous...... 19:00  |  Swiss (Dino) 15/09/08
      177.   Ibrahim # 155 Who`s Sulking? 19:17  |  Jeff Northridge 15/09/08
      178.   peter and the Halutzim: the proud Pioneers 19:21  |  Settler Babe 15/09/08
      179.   # 177 jeff 19:30  |  Axel 15/09/08
      180.   PM E. Olmert & "Greater Israel" dream 19:58  |  Ricardo Kolbe 15/09/08
      181.   Swiss (Dino) West Coast Jews 20:03  |  David Israel 15/09/08
      182.   Rewarding Theft? 20:39  |  Gray 15/09/08
      183.   #16, Nick Of Quebec 20:44  |  Gary 15/09/08
      184.   Axel # 179 Cartography Is The Crux Of The Matter 20:46  |  Jeff Northridge 15/09/08
      185.   Swiss (Dino) #176 For your knowledge only 20:50  |  Gil 15/09/08
      186.   Swiss (Dino) #176 For your knowledge only 20:50  |  Gil 15/09/08
      187.   A Second Home, OK; But A Second Country.....? 20:53  |  Gray 15/09/08
      188.   Democracy and power (cf. #20) 20:54  |  Leo 15/09/08
      189.   Totally irresponsible Olmert 21:00  |  Shalom Freedman 15/09/08
      190.   Dan, Trying to be honest?! 21:03  |  Zev Davis 15/09/08
      191.   Nathalie, Sharon?! Know where he is now? 21:08  |  Zev Davis 15/09/08
      192.   Very true Gray 21:13  |  Patriot 15/09/08
      193.   # 181 David, I really don`t wanna sound like Mr.know-it-all..... 21:14  |  Swiss (Dino) 15/09/08
      194.   # 184 jeff 21:25  |  Axel 15/09/08
      195.   # 185 Gil, thanks very much for your "news"..... 21:31  |  Swiss (Dino) 15/09/08
      196.   Swiss (Dino) As you have relatives in SFO I have in Switzerland 21:58  |  David Israel 15/09/08
      197.   Here on the San Francisco Bay Area 22:17  |  Scharker Yid 15/09/08
      198.   #106 Dino. There`s no secret. Most of us refuse to cede our land. 22:19  |  Chaim 15/09/08
      199.   Olmert the 1.3 million Arabs in Israel alliance is to Hamas, Iran 22:28  |  Ken Jurist 15/09/08
      200.   #171 Ballistic - The Hollow Drum 22:29  |  * BEN JABO 15/09/08
      201.   #150 Pakistan and "Islamic" 22:30  |  Abba 15/09/08
      202.   Gray - How did the USA come into being? 22:36  |  * BEN JABO 15/09/08
      203.   #187 Gray - How about four wives 22:39  |  * BEN JABO 15/09/08
      204.   There never was. Israel was always small. Judea and Samaria... 22:47  |  Realist 15/09/08
      205.   Swiss (Dino) No, No you are never a Rookie 22:51  |  Gil 15/09/08
      206.   Swiss (Dino) 2nd try 22:55  |  David Israel 15/09/08
      207.   Bennie JABO; Give me a call when.... 23:05  |  Gray 15/09/08
      208.   Dino we pardon the partner of your sister 23:13  |  other Jews 15/09/08
      209.   GRAY"THEFT" ?? It`s the Arabs that refused to recognise borders!! 23:22  |  PETER SM 15/09/08
      210.   Olmert The Idiot 23:46  |  Michael Gorinsky 15/09/08
      211.   SAY Ballistic did you know they targetted the British army 23:47  |  PETER SM 15/09/08
      212.   #201 Ben Jabo. Hebrew word for co-wives - `tzara.` 23:53  |  Maureen Ann 15/09/08
      213.   #205 Peter SM 23:55  |  ballistic 15/09/08
      214.   A few things... 23:56  |  Czarkazem13 15/09/08
      215.   Realist # 202 I`m Not So Sure About That 00:08  |  Jeff Northridge 16/09/08
      216.   GRAY that there are no recognised borders was at Arab insistence 00:11  |  PETER SM 16/09/08
      217.   #200 BJ, say, why don`t you join the 21st century? 00:12  |  ballistic 16/09/08
      218.   B.ALOFS While Hamas has a military "solution" of Jihad for it all 00:16  |  PETER SM 16/09/08
      219.   Olmert would have been correct if he was negotiating with himself 00:23  |  TonyL 16/09/08
      220.   #203 Gray - What I did, probably more than you 00:32  |  * BEN JABO 16/09/08
      221.   The Rome was not built in one day 00:44  |  TonyL 16/09/08
      222.   Reply to Abe Pollack in New York (Post No. 25) 00:52  |  Johnny Weintraub 16/09/08
      223.   # 196 Chaim 01:06  |  Swiss (Dino) 16/09/08
      224.   #184 No Jeff, legality is the crux of the matter. 01:32  |  Johnboy 16/09/08
      225.   just shut up and go 01:36  |  rich 16/09/08
      226.   Dino 106 01:53  |  sharon 16/09/08
      227.   What`s Wrong With Binationalism 02:13  |  Adam Astan 16/09/08
      228.   Ibrahim-#167-re-education camps? 02:29  |  Daniel Leopold 16/09/08
      229.   #147, #162 Give the sanctimony a rest, Jeff. 02:31  |  Johnboy 16/09/08
      230.   Adam Astan-#227-What`s wrong with binationalism? 03:30  |  Daniel Leopold 16/09/08
      231.   Johnboy # 224 You`re On Legal Quicksand, Mate 04:06  |  Jeff Northridge 16/09/08
      232.   Ballistic Arabs named everything in a lot of places they invaded. 05:03  |  PETER SM 16/09/08
      233.   #231 No, Jeff, legally I am on firm footing. Part 1 05:51  |  Johnboy 16/09/08
      234.   #231 No, Jeff, legally I am on firm footing. Part 2 06:15  |  Johnboy 16/09/08
      235.   232. Peter pre history 06:24  |  Max 16/09/08
      236.   PETER SM - You have "lost it". 06:36  |  PADDY 16/09/08
      237.   Markie and Dino.........and now I believe in the Anti-American 06:38  |  Lynn 16/09/08
      238.   #212 Maureen Ann - I see you`ve been reading 06:44  |  * BEN JABO 16/09/08
      239.   #217 2ND TRY Ballistic - I`m in the 21st century 06:48  |  * BEN JABO 16/09/08
      240.   Johnboy # 233 No, I Don`t Get It 07:01  |  Jeff Northridge 16/09/08
      241.   #232 Peter SM 07:05  |  ballistic 16/09/08
      242.   BEN J. & Peter sm: With the same, tiresome... 07:08  |  Gray 16/09/08
      243.   PADDY YOU lost it.! During the Arab war of annihilation. 07:11  |  PETER SM 16/09/08
      244.   Johnboy # 234 You`re Wrong Again 07:37  |  Jeff Northridge 16/09/08
      245.   GRAY Insults,lies(trained,paid,trolls???) do not an argument make 08:14  |  PETER SM 16/09/08
      246.   BALLISTIC the" gig was up "when Arabs refused partition&chose war 08:17  |  PETER SM 16/09/08
      247.   Daniel Leopold why don`t you look at the good examples 08:17  |  Adam Astan 16/09/08
      248.   #194 Axel 3rd World Struggle For Legitimavy 08:35  |  Jim 16/09/08
      249.   #212 Maureen Ann 09:42  |  Jim 16/09/08
      250.   #227 Adam Astan 10:04  |  Jim 16/09/08
      251.   #230 Daniel Leopold 10:19  |  Jim 16/09/08
      252.   #234 Johnboy 10:30  |  Jim 16/09/08
      253.   Jim, the Arabs conquered Jerusalem in . . . 11:00  |  Zev Davis 16/09/08
      254.   #240 That much is obvious, Jeff 11:23  |  Johnboy 16/09/08
      255.   #240 Follow the bouncing ball again, Jeff 11:44  |  Johnboy 16/09/08
      256.   #244 Perhaps you need to actually read the Plan, Jeff 11:55  |  Johnboy 16/09/08
      257.   # 237 Lynn 12:38  |  Swiss (Dino) 16/09/08
      258.   # 226 sharon (2nd try) 13:57  |  Swiss (Dino) 16/09/08
      259.   Sigh 18:18  |  ERSB 16/09/08
      260.   Sin and conspiracy!!! 20:14  |  Paul 16/09/08
      261.   The sad truth though! 20:16  |  Paul 16/09/08
      262.   ASSTrisks Ben Jibberish # 207 re Gray 187 cant have it both ways 03:31  |  American in NY 17/09/08
      263.   @262 American ?? in NY 05:43  |  * BEN JABO 18/09/08
      264.   #262-2 American?? in NY 20:52  |  * BEN JABO 19/09/08
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