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Russia declares itself ready to make peace with Georgia
By Barak Ravid and Amos Harel, Haaretz Correspondents and Reuters
Tags: Georgia, Israel, Iran, Russia

Russia declared itself ready to make peace with Georgia and United Nations officials confirmed Sunday that Georgia is prepared to negotiate with Russia by withdrawing troops from the breakaway province of South Ossetia and creating a safe travel zone.

The UN Security Council met Sunday for the fourth time in as many days trying to resolve a conflict that began when U.S.-allied Georgia tried to
control South Ossetia, then said its troops had retreated in the face of
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ussia's tanks and aircraft.

Council members broke off their three-hour meeting with plans to return either later in the day or Monday.

The U.S. was preparing a draft resolution that would have the council call for an immediate cease-fire and condemn the Russian action. France also had a draft text in the works. The U.S. and Europeans planned to huddle among themselves later Sunday.

Russia, which called the first meeting late Thursday night hours before its tanks rumbled into Georgia, will only act in self-defense said Russian Ambassador Vitaly Churkin.

"Let's state clearly that we are ready to put an end to the war, that we will withdraw from South Ossetia, that we will sign an agreement on non-use of force," Churkin proposed.

However, diplomats said major fighting continued in many areas. Russia also has deployed a naval squadron off the coast of Abkhazia, and its aircraft bombed the outskirts of Tbilisi, the Georgian capital.

Israel: We recognize Georgia's territorial sovereignty

The Foreign Ministry said earlier Sunday that it "recognizes the territorial integrity of Georgia," calling for a peaceful solution to the conflict that began raging with Russia late last week.

The ministry said in a statement it was following with concern the events of the past few days which saw heavy fighting between Russian and Georgian troops.

The statement came just as Georgia notified Russia that its troops have halted military action in South Ossetia, the site of the weekend battles, and was ready to start immediate negotiations with Russia on a cease-fire and ending hostilities.

Russia said shortly after that it had received a Georgian note declaring an end to its military activities South Ossetia, but said fighting was still proceeding in the area.

"We have been handed a note that from 5 A.M. Georgia stopped firing and is withdrawing forces from the conflict zone, but our information does not confirm the Georgian statement," Interfax news agency quoted Russia's Foreign Ministry sources as saying.

"There are indications that exchanges of fire are continuing and the Georgian forces have not been fully withdrawn from the conflict zone."

As the announcement was released, Russian forces took over the South Ossetian capital of Tbilisi and bombed a military airport on the outskirts of the city. Witnesses said that Tbilisi International Airport was also hit in the strike, 200 meters from a runway.

A few hours later, Russia's navy sank a Georgian boat carrying missile launchers after a skirmish at sea, news agencies quoted the defense ministry as saying.

Georgian boats had made two attempts to attack Russian ships which "returned fire, as a result of which one of the Georgian boats launching the attack sank," agencies quoted the ministry as saying.

The reports gave no indication which ships were involved in the incident or where it took place.

The navy earlier said Russian warships originally said to be near Georgian waters had put into Novorossiisk, a Russian Black Sea port to the north.

Israel's Foreign Ministry over the weekend recommended a complete halt to the sale of arms and any security-related equipment to Georgia in light of the recent fighting with Russian forces in the Caucasus.

This would be a further tightening of an arms boycott on Tbilisi around a year after a decision had been made in Jerusalem to limit exports to Georgia only to defensive equipment.

White House: Russia risking ties with U.S. in Georgia offensive

Meanwhile, the United States is preparing to submit a UN Security Council resolution later on Sunday condemning Russian military action against Georgia as unacceptable, a U.S. spokesman said.

The spokesman for the U.S. delegation at the United Nations told Reuters: "We will offer a resolution today that makes clear that the Russian actions in Georgia are unacceptable to the international community."

The White House earlier Sunday warned Russia to halt its attacks on Georgia or risk significant and enduring damage to its relationship with the United States.

Russia expanded its bombing blitz Sunday against neighboring U.S.-allied Georgia. Georgian troops pulled out of the capital of the contested province of South Ossetia under heavy Russian shelling.

The U.S. has called on Russia to stop its military offensive.

Jim Jeffrey, President George W. Bush's deputy national security adviser, said the U.S. has made it clear that, "If the disproportionate and dangerous escalation on the Russian side continues, that this will have a significant long-term impact on U.S.-Russian relations."

Meanwhile, Russia on Sunday accused Western countries and media of a biased pro-Georgian position in the conflict in South Ossetia and
said this might hamper future relations with Moscow.

"Western countries behaved strangely in the first hours of aggression towards South Ossetia, they were silent," Deputy Foreign Minister Grigory Karasin told a news conference.

"This raises very serious questions about sincerity and their attitude towards our country and will of course be taken into account in the future when we hold talks and talk about global issues," Karasin said.

Earlier Sunday, Georgia's interior ministry said that the country had withdrawn its forces from breakaway South Ossetia, where they had been fighting Russian troops for control.

The pullout followed three days of fighting in a Georgian push to take control of the pro-Moscow enclave from separatists, which prompted Russia to pour troops into South Ossetia and launch air strikes inside Georgia.

A Georgian military convoy carrying troops and towing heavy artillery was seen withdrawing from South Ossetia through the village of Ergneti, just inside Georgian-controlled territory south of the separatist capital Tskhinvali.

"They have been withdrawn, completely," Georgian interior ministry spokesman Shota Utiashvili told Reuters.

A Kremlin spokesman said: "We saw media reports and are now examining the real situation".

Israel fears Russia would retaliate against Jerusalem

Israel's recommendation to halt defense sales to Georgia stems from concern that Russia would choose to retaliate against Jerusalem for its continued military support of Georgia by lifting restrictions on its arms transfers to Iran and Arab states.

"Israel needs to be very careful and sensitive these days," said a senior political source. "The Russians are selling many arms to Iran and Syria and there is no need to offer them an excuse to sell even more advanced weapons."

The source noted that Israel is particularly interested in the transfer of advanced S-300 anti-aircraft missiles to Iran, and therefore Jerusalem must show restraint in its arm sales to Georgia.

"The day we will want to prevent a future deal with Iran, our hands must be clean," the source said.

Last Wednesday discussions were held at the Foreign Ministry on the crisis in South Ossetia. At the end of the meeting a decision was made to recommend to the Defense Ministry that Israel would avoid the sale of any military equipment to Georgia because the country was now a "combat zone."

The Foreign Ministry also recommends that the issue be revisited after the situation stabilizes and the fighting ceases.

But a final decision on the matter will be made by the Defense Ministry in the coming days.

About six months ago, the Defense Ministry imposed significant limitations on the arms transfers from Israel to Georgia, in view of the growing friction between Tbilisi and Moscow.

The decision followed strong protests by Russian officials over the growing involvement of retired Israeli military and security experts, and the increased procurement by Georgia of Israeli technology and hardware.

According to instructions issued by the office charged with supervising military sales abroad, all sales of offensive equipment were stopped, but defensive equipment and advisers were allowed.

Existing contracts were not canceled, but a long list of new contracts whose negotiations had been completed were not approved.

The decision resulted in protests by Israeli arms exporters, and since then the defense ministry has issued restrictions on the role Israeli advisers can play in Georgia.

One of the firms involved announced on Saturday that all its personnel have been evacuated from Georgia.

Israel is not considered to be one of the main arms suppliers of Georgia. The scope of the defense deals between the two countries stands at $200 million. The two largest suppliers to Georgia are the United States and France.

However, the security ties between the two countries have received a great deal of media attention, in part because of the capture, on film, of a Russian jet downing an Israeli-made drone in Georgian service, and the role that senior retired Israeli officers have played as advisers to the Georgian security forces.

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      1.   halt arms sales to Georgia 04:34  |  bernardkoushner 10/08/08
      2.   Clean Hands? 04:37  |  Refugee 10/08/08
      3.   Paranoid Policy 04:39  |  John Isenhower 10/08/08
      4.   Freeze diplomatic relations with Russia 04:42  |  Morris Valentine 10/08/08
      5.   Russia wont Stop selling Arms to Evil Dictators 04:47  |  Fred 10/08/08
      6.   Attention, calling the lost & found department 04:54  |  Bill 10/08/08
      7.   Israel must remain neutral 05:00  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 10/08/08
      8.   Russian genocide 05:07  |  Robert Newlander 10/08/08
      9.   Stupid Tzipi, now it is time to pressure Russia even more 05:29  |  Genuine Tosefta 10/08/08
      10.   merkavas blow up by russian anti tank weapons 05:30  |  paulo2005 10/08/08
      11.   Oops we didn`t know 05:35  |  Guy From NYC 10/08/08
      12.   Russia Should Fear Supporting The Fabrication of ArabPal State 06:08  |  Joseph.E 10/08/08
      13.   What about a trade off 06:19  |  Robert 10/08/08
      14.   #4 Ahamd 06:30  |  Chet 10/08/08
      15.   Joseph.E 06:36  |  Chet 10/08/08
      16.   To CJK (#8) 06:44  |  Morris Valentine 10/08/08
      17.   SELL ARMS TO GRUZIYA 06:45  |  Gil Zemach 10/08/08
      18.   Long Live Russia..We won`t succumb to Talmudic hegemony 07:06  |  Ivan 10/08/08
      19.   #5, Morris Valentine 07:08  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 10/08/08
      20.   FO Halts arms sales to Georgia 07:52  |  I.Kemp 10/08/08
      21.   To CJK (#15): Some provoking 07:54  |  Morris Valentine 10/08/08
      22.   Deja vu ! Encore! 08:10  |  Philippe 10/08/08
      23.   Halt Arms Sales? 08:11  |  Yosemite 10/08/08
      24.   Sell Georgia everything that Russia sells our enemies 08:11  |  Nothing More 10/08/08
      25.   It is NOT up to Israel 08:12  |  MiddleStanian 10/08/08
      26.   It doesn`t matter what Russia does Ivan, it will succumb 08:19  |  Genuine Tosefta 10/08/08
      27.   #17, Morris Valentine 08:27  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 10/08/08
      28.   Absurd nonsense: arms sales to BOTH sides must cease! 08:50  |  Ivar 10/08/08
      29.   Jews in Israel 08:53  |  Palestinian Brit 10/08/08
      30.   War Games are spreading...... 09:04  |  Dagma 10/08/08
      31.   better take care of your allies 09:06  |  moshe 10/08/08
      32.   In Defense of Liberty 09:07  |  Hans 10/08/08
      33.   how about dealing with reality and russian mafia 09:14  |  victor hardman 10/08/08
      34.   Georgia and Munich agreement. 09:44  |  Vital 10/08/08
      35.   to #30 - the size of israel 09:55  |  Will 10/08/08
      36.   wartime is the best time to sell arms 10:09  |  zionist forever 10/08/08
      37.   #7 Cipora Julianna Kohn 10:41  |  Chris Linthwaite 10/08/08
      38.   Another defeat for another US-ally 11:35  |  MiddleStanian 10/08/08
      39.   TO NO 7 CIPORA. 12:12  |  DANNY. 10/08/08
      40.   Lithwaite 12:16  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 10/08/08
      41.   #37 middleStanian 12:19  |  J. B. 10/08/08
      42.   Russia built Bushehr Iranian power plant and prevents sanctions 12:38  |  Sima 10/08/08
      43.   The "advisers" did a bangup job. 12:39  |  ManintheMiddle 10/08/08
      44.   38. MiddleStanian: the war was started by Russia 12:50  |  KUTW 10/08/08
      45.   Oh No! Morris Valentine #4 12:50  |  S 10/08/08
      46.   8. Robert Newlander: Russian genocide 12:52  |  KUTW 10/08/08
      47.   Chris Linthwaite #37 - No need to scream from roof tops 13:04  |  S 10/08/08
      48.   #39, DANNY 13:05  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 10/08/08
      49.   Russia: 83-tons Uranium to Iran -- the Mother of All Weapons 13:13  |  Ovadiah ben Avraham 10/08/08
      50.   Israel excercizing caution or showing spinelessness? 13:17  |  AliciaYasmeen 10/08/08
      51.   Israel shows its lack of backbone 13:28  |  Steven Grumman 10/08/08
      52.   In Doubt 13:57  |  Gibe 10/08/08
      53.   Continue selling 14:47  |  Sabra 10/08/08
      54.   I see that Georgia`s Defence Minister 15:29  |  Chris Linthwaite 10/08/08
      55.   Don`t blame the salesman of the silverware for a bad meal 15:32  |  r 10/08/08
      56.   A warning word from Russia 16:04  |  Sergei 10/08/08
      57.   US child stamps its feet and holds its breath 16:10  |  spyguy 10/08/08
      58.   54- Chris Linthwaite, he problaby moved from Israel and becomes 16:32  |  JP 10/08/08
      59.   #58 JP 16:55  |  Chris Linthwaite 10/08/08
      60.   Urgent offer for exchanging Slowman 17:10  |  Beijing Zoo 10/08/08
      61.   That part of the world 17:34  |  Mrs. Shocked from US 10/08/08
      62.   Really Cipora, Israeli arms sales to Georgia is our business... 17:59  |  BBSNews 10/08/08
      63.   Next showdown Arabs-Israel 18:01  |  American 10/08/08
      64.   #38 Middlestanian....Russians are right about 18:06  |  Lynn 10/08/08
      65.   # 62 BBS....so what 18:10  |  Lynn 10/08/08
      66.   IVAN...it isn`t YOUR country 18:15  |  Lynn 10/08/08
      67.   Joseph E; "Jerusalem could...have U.S. antiballistic....". 18:18  |  Gray 10/08/08
      68.   It`s all about the dollars$$$$$ 18:28  |  9 mm = Never again 10/08/08
      69.   To CJK (#20) 18:29  |  Morris Valentine 10/08/08
      70.   It is a big deal Lynn. a really big deal... 18:31  |  BBSNews 10/08/08
      71.   georgia 18:36  |  azad 10/08/08
      72.   To S (#45) 18:36  |  Morris Valentine 10/08/08
      73.   Thanks for #62, BBS News; "When the light unto nations is... 18:40  |  Gray 10/08/08
      74.   A warning lesson for Israel 18:42  |  Jonathan S 10/08/08
      75.   @69 Morris Valentine 18:48  |  Mark B. 10/08/08
      76.   the small should stand together 18:49  |  Leon from Germany 10/08/08
      77.   to 70 B BS news you said the truth in this case 18:49  |  JP 10/08/08
      78.   Georgia 18:52  |  Bruce Rubin 10/08/08
      79.   My Take After Some Thought 19:04  |  Yosemite 10/08/08
      80.   It Works Both Ways, Don`t Ask Israel to Stop Next Time 19:07  |  Dish It Out 10/08/08
      81.   Sudetenland, revisited 19:10  |  Nathaniel 10/08/08
      82.   2 Refugee,my exact thought! 19:16  |  lakshmi 10/08/08
      83.   JP, it has nothing to do with some myth compendium... 19:17  |  BBSNews 10/08/08
      84.   What goes around.... 19:19  |  Gray 10/08/08
      85.   Georgia`s Territorial Integrity 19:37  |  Can 10/08/08
      86.   BBSNews, tell me what you believes instead attacking others creed 19:40  |  JP 10/08/08
      87.   There`s no comparison Nathaniel... 19:45  |  BBSNews 10/08/08
      88.   Georgia 19:48  |  Bruce Rubin 10/08/08
      89.   BBS news you maybe are a litlle ceptic here. 19:50  |  JP 10/08/08
      90.   BBS news Its more than coincidences in reality those myths 19:52  |  JP 10/08/08
      91.   QUESTION: WHY ISRAEL IN THIS ? 19:53  |  Historian 10/08/08
      92.   illogical thinking on Georgia 19:56  |  American 10/08/08
      93.   Jonathan S., Saakasvili is a fool 20:04  |  Mark B. 10/08/08
      94.   Here`s The Deal 20:06  |  Jeff Northridge 10/08/08
      95.   # 94 jeff 20:19  |  Axel 10/08/08
      96.   JP, I believe in human rights for all... 20:19  |  BBSNews 10/08/08
      97.   Bush 20:24  |  D S 10/08/08
      98.   Israel supports Stalin`s plan 20:34  |  Al 10/08/08
      99.   #94 Jeff Northridge, there is one thing you forget 20:38  |  Mark B. 10/08/08
      100.   Morris Valentine # 4 _ A Wonderful Idea 20:44  |  Eli 10/08/08
      101.   Russia may transfer S-300 anti-aircraft missiles to Iran 20:46  |  Joseph.E 10/08/08
      102.   great, now recognize irans soverignty 20:52  |  mi v 10/08/08
      103.   # 74 jonathan s 20:52  |  Axel 10/08/08
      104.   In the world of the grown ups 20:55  |  Tosefta 10/08/08
      105.   Russia 20:55  |  Roxy 10/08/08
      106.   #55 Wow *r* Yours is the most sensible post here. 21:20  |  anonymous 10/08/08
      107.   HAARETZ! Tbilisi is the GEORGIAN Capital not 21:21  |  Kris Lazar 10/08/08
      108.   # 55 r 21:31  |  Axel 10/08/08
      109.   By their attack on South Ossetia, Georgia volunteered 21:36  |  Kris Lazar 10/08/08
      110.   Mr. Assad 21:36  |  Axel 10/08/08
      111.   Livni throws a bone at Sabakashvili. 21:36  |  Andreas 10/08/08
      112.   Axel # 95 _ I Agree With You. But How Do You 21:49  |  Eli 10/08/08
      113.   #27 Cipora Julianna Kohn 22:05  |  Hans 10/08/08
      114.   # 101 joseph 22:26  |  Axel 10/08/08
      115.   the most stupid thing 22:29  |  moises 10/08/08
      116.   To Tosefta (#104) 22:29  |  Morris Valentine 10/08/08
      117.   #113, Hans 23:03  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 10/08/08
      118.   Mark B. # 99 The Price Of Oil 23:05  |  Jeff Northridge 10/08/08
      119.   Casualties, present and future 23:18  |  Gray 10/08/08
      120.   Russia`s naked aggression 23:18  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 10/08/08
      121.   BS & Gray 23:52  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 10/08/08
      122.   Like Israel`s "naked aggression" against Lebanon Cipora? 23:53  |  BBSNews 10/08/08
      123.   GRAY (#84) stop your Ranting 23:59  |  Gil 10/08/08
      124.   # 68 9 mm = Never again.It`s all about $$$ And Power Too 00:16  |  K 11/08/08
      125.   get smart israel and warn russia you will divulge 00:38  |  russia & iran nukes 11/08/08
      126.   Yes Tosefta, a "gentlemans agreement" between Russia and Israel 00:41  |  Mark B. 11/08/08
      127.   #120 C J K Paraphrazing and Quotation.. 01:11  |  K 11/08/08
      128.   Ciporra; About "Obsessions" 01:24  |  Gray 11/08/08
      129.   #117 Cipora Julianna Kohn 01:25  |  Mark B. 11/08/08
      130.   Hello Gil; No thank you. 01:36  |  Gray 11/08/08
      131.   #100 Eli And To MV..Worth Thinking About.. 01:41  |  K 11/08/08
      132.   Cipora; #120; About that "Naked aggression" thing... 01:45  |  Gray 11/08/08
      133.   Where`s the Light Brigade 01:45  |  Mark of Lewiston 11/08/08
      134.   #129, Mark B 01:51  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 11/08/08
      135.   #127, K, I agree, as so often 02:01  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 11/08/08
      136.   #129 Mark B..How True,really How True.. 02:10  |  anonymous 11/08/08
      137.   A NEW NAZI REGIME 02:35  |  Commosense 11/08/08
      138.   #137 Commonsense A NEW NAZI REGIME 03:11  |  anonymous 11/08/08
      139.   CJK # 7 Neutrality is only permissable for Jews? 03:14  |  American in NY 11/08/08
      140.   What do we say to people who dare to utter the 03:33  |  Labhras - 11/08/08
      141.   137/8 How Many Hitlers Can there Be????? 03:45  |  Mark of Lewiston 11/08/08
      142.   I just finished reading a book by Susan Nathan 03:45  |  Labhras 11/08/08
      143.   #Cipora Juliana Cohn. Gas and oil and `democracy.` 03:53  |  Maureen Ann 11/08/08
      144.   Is South Ossetia the Sudetenland of the 21st century? 04:12  |  Voice of Reason 11/08/08
      145.   #139 American in NY 04:16  |  Green Grass 11/08/08
      146.   LIKE THE US CONDEMNATION OF RUSSIA WILL DO ANY GOOD;IT`S JUST A 04:49  |  glenna 11/08/08
      147.   LINTHWAITE Kazerashvilli born,educated&lived mostly in Georgia.& 04:49  |  PETER SM 11/08/08
      148.   MAUREEN GAS & OIL in the hands oif dictators 04:54  |  PETER SM 11/08/08
      149.   #4 This is a joke, I hope Morris..... 05:01  |  Johnboy 11/08/08
      150.   AMERICAN in NY Since when is CJK "Jews"??? 05:15  |  PETER SM 11/08/08
      151.   Labhras; You should know by now.... 05:36  |  Gray 11/08/08
      152.   #148 PeterSM "Oif"ull dictator." Sure is! Sasskashvilli! 05:54  |  Maureen Ann 11/08/08
      153.   JOHNBOY Do you laugh at useful idiots demanding nukes for Iran? 06:24  |  PETER SM 11/08/08
      154.   To Johnboy (#149) 06:38  |  Morris Valentine 11/08/08
      155.   MAUREEN Georgia(not the US state) has NO significant oil.! 06:40  |  PETER SM 11/08/08
      156.   Cipora, why the willingness to not grant South Ossetia autonomy? 06:42  |  BBSNews 11/08/08
      157.   Cipora; Think first.... 07:20  |  Gray 11/08/08
      158.   #PeterSM. The Republic of Georgia AND Israel, no significant oil. 07:28  |  Maureen Ann 11/08/08
      159.   Morris Valentine # 154 To Johnboy _ Excellent Post. Thank You!!! 07:32  |  Eli 11/08/08
      160.   Maureen Ann - an expert at nothing 07:40  |  fiona 11/08/08
      161.   Sudetenland without the mustache 07:41  |  Ilan 11/08/08
      162.   Kathy # 131 _ Slavic Dislike and Mistrust of Moslems 08:09  |  Eli 11/08/08
      163.   SMOKE SCREEN 2nd atmpt. 08:39  |  THE TEACHER/INSTRUCT 11/08/08
      164.   MAUREEN.So now its a pipeline is it?Georgia can join any group it 09:04  |  PETER SM 11/08/08
      165.   Morris V. #154: Playground Rhetoric vs Global Carnage 09:11  |  Gray 11/08/08
      166.   LETS SEE IT FROM THE IRAQI POINT OF VIEW 09:17  |  indrajaya 11/08/08
      167.   # 7 to cipora re: "neutrality" 09:22  |  eric 11/08/08
      168.   #162 PeterSM. Cheney. 09:31  |  Maureen Ann 11/08/08
      169.   GRAY" Israel unprovoked"?? 1.Arab war of annihilatio 09:53  |  PETER SM 11/08/08
      170.   # 135 to cipora re: recent russian activity 09:59  |  eric 11/08/08
      171.   MAUREEN..Anything except unprovoked Russian attack on Georgia 10:12  |  PETER SM 11/08/08
      172.   # 113 to hans re: "In Germany, first they came for..." 10:35  |  eric 11/08/08
      173.   #170 eric 10:48  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 11/08/08
      174.   # 156 to bbsnews re: your twist of cipora`s views 11:49  |  eric 11/08/08
      175.   # 168 maureen ann 15:08  |  THE TEACHER/INSTRUCT 11/08/08
      176.   The Trouble With Putin.To All Here. 16:12  |  KATHY 11/08/08
      177.   I`ll stand with autonomous South Osseitia eric... 17:51  |  BBSNews 11/08/08
      178.   Questions 19:27  |  Armand 11/08/08
      179.   To Gray (#165) 22:28  |  Morris Valentine 11/08/08
      180.   Russia and Israel are natural allies 03:54  |  American in NY 12/08/08
      181.   # 177 to bbsnews re: cipora and s.ossetia (2nd try) 12:03  |  eric 12/08/08
      182.   # 173 to cipora re: agreement 12:46  |  eric 12/08/08
      183.   Arms to Georgia - DONT BLINK 13:05  |  Aaron 12/08/08
      184.   Why is Israel in this? Oil & $ 13:30  |  Aaron 12/08/08
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