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Shmuel Rosner, Chief U.S. Correspondent Back to Rosner's Domain Biography | Email me
Posted: July 18, 2006

Martin Indyk

Martin Indyk, director of the Saban Center for Middle East Policy, served in several senior positions in the U.S. government, most recently as ambassador to Israel and assistant secretary of state for Near East affairs. He was also a founding executive director of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. He has published widely on Palestinian-Israeli peace and other topics in Middle East policy, and is now working on a study of the Clinton Administration's diplomacy in the region.

Indyk will address questions regarding the current crisis in Lebanon along with other issues dealing with Middle East negotiations. He will specifically deal with a paper he recently published with his colleague Tamara Cofman Wittes, called Dual Dilemmas: U.S. Policy Options for the Israeli-Palestinian Predicament.

Readers can send questions to rosnersdomain@haaretz.co.il.


Mr. Indyk

Many world leaders - including Kofi Annan, Tony Blair and the EU
Commission - have called for the deployment of an international force
of peacekeepers in southern Lebanon. However, I wonder how effective ground troops are while the conflict is fought mainly with rockets
(Fajr-3 having the capacity of covering at least 50 km) and air force.
What are the realistic prospects, if any, of an international force stopping the conflict?

Thanks,

Anna Momigliano
Rome, Italy



The idea of an international force that would be interposed between the warring sides makes no sense. It might hinder the Israel Defense Forces from operating in Lebanon since Israel would not want to be involved in a military confrontation with the countries that supplied the force (e.g. Britain and France). However, Hezbollah would have no such reservations. Just as they bombed the U.S. Marine Barracks at Beirut International Airport in 1983, so too would they likely attack the international force if it tried to stop their attacks on Israel.

However, an international force could play an important role once a ceasefire were agreed on and implemented. Such an agreement would likely provide for the Lebanese Armed Forces (LAF) to take control of southern Lebanon and to patrol the border between Lebanon and Israel. The Lebanese Prime Minister has already declared his intention of taking extending his government?s sovereignty to the south. And the Israeli Prime Minister has called for this as a necessary component of any ceasefire agreement. However, the LAF does not have sufficient capability to fulfill that mission and prevent Hezbollah from operating in the south. A combat-capable international force (in contrast to UNIFIL's observer role) would be needed to enhance the LAF's capabilities. Similarly, an international force could support the LAF's efforts to control Lebanon's borders to prevent the resupply of Hezbollah with rockets and missiles from Iran or Syria.

Although the United States would need to support and help pay for the force, it would be unwise and unnecessary for U.S. forces to participate. Instead, battle-hardened troops from countries like Australia, Britain, France and Canada could do the job effectively. But they could only play an effective role if the Lebanese government made a sovereign decision to invite them into Lebanon and the Israeli government acquiesced in the deployment.


Dear Ambassador

Our readers sent many questions but as time and space are limited I selected one to represent each issue.

On Syria: At the end of his first comment, Ambassador Indyk raised a
question: "How to get Hezbollah to acquiesce in the deal?" Since there are not many options, perhaps the best route is through Syria. What if third parties helped Israel and Syria strike a deal: Syria would
support the removal of Hezbollah from south Lebanon and its disarmament. Syria would also stop facilitating Iranian support for Hezbollah. In exchange, Israel and Syria would go back to the negotiating table with the aim of signing a peace treaty including full Israeli withdrawal from the Golan. Is that scenario possible?

Jeremy Pressman, Ph.D.
University of Connecticut


This is a logical way forward and the Syrians would actually love to have Condi come to Damascus and ask for their help. But there are two problems with your approach:

1. The Bush Administration has treated Syria like an enemy. It's not so simple for the President now to treat them like a friend in need.

2. And it would be a betrayal of the Cedar Revolution, for Bush would in effect be inviting Syria back into Lebanon to stabilize the situation.

What you're actually suggesting is that Bush give up on his "freedom drive" and return to traditional American diplomacy which sought stability and peace rather than democracy and regime change. I don't think Bush is willing to make such an about face because he actually believes his way is working.


On Lebanon: Is it too cynical to think that the Bush administration under neocon influence is looking ahead to subdue first Syria then Iran, and is quite happy that Hizbollah has lit a fuse for them? Or do we believe the tone of Bush's captured aside that if Hizbollah stops this "shit" it's all over?

Tony Serve


I think some in the administration would be happy for Israel to hit Syria as part of the agenda you allude to. However, the experience in Iraq has made the President and his Secretary of State more cautious. Nevertheless, this conflict could escalate to a confrontation between Syria and Israel whether the Bush Administration intended it or not. At that point, the U.S. would have to intervene and make it clear that if Syria and Iran were not willing to curb Hezbollah, Syria would suffer a huge battlefield defeat. I'm not recommending this course of action and I don't think Israel is up for it. But I suspect that if Syria and Iran thought the war was going to engulf Damascus they would act to extinguish the flames.


On the Palestinians: Given the decided tilt, starting under Clinton
and culminating under Bush, to a Likud-like outlook and positioning on Israeli Palestinian issues, the U.S. has lost substantially all of its
credibility with the Palestinian people as an honest broker seeking
peace and justice. Is it possible for the United States to recover any
of its credibility with the Palestinian people?

Mark Sherry


America's credibility with all the Arabs depends on its ability and willingness to influence Israel and to stand up to those who would prefer to make war rather than peace on Israel. As much as the Palestinians dislike America's pro-Israel stance they know that the only external power that can make a real difference to their fate is the United States.


On Iran: It is generally agreed that Iran has instigated the present
outbreak of fighting and is continuing to resupply Hezbollah. What, if
anything, can be done to ensure that Iran ceases to be capable of
doing this in the future?

Murray Teitel, Toronto


Tough question. At the moment, Iran thinks it can act with impunity, that it holds all the high cards in Iraq, in Lebanon, in the Palestinian arena, and on the nuclear issue. The United States, however, should be able to use this crisis to convince other powers that the problem is not just Iran's nuclear program, it's also its sponsorship of Hezbollah. The G-8's condemnation of Hezbollah was a useful move in this direction. But the notable absence of any finger-pointing at Iran suggests we still have a ways to go. When Iran is before the UN Security Council because of its unwillingness to negotiate over its nuclear program, its support for Hezbollah should also be on the agenda. Hopefully, China and Russia will eventually be convinced that the only way to get their attention is through sanctions. And if that doesn't work, I fear a confrontation will become inevitable.

Dear Ambassador

Being original in a week such as this one is not an option, so my first question will be the obvious one: What policy should the U.S. administration pursue in light of the ongoing crisis in Lebanon? Do you want to see the U.S. more heavily involved, and how can it help the parties get closer to a reasonable solution to this deteriorating situation?

Best

Rosner



The U.S. has to walk a fine line in this crisis. On one side, it must stand by Israel in the face of Hezbollah's unprovoked act of aggression. On the other side, it must support the government of Lebanon, which was democratically elected and is (with the exception of its Hezbollah ministers) pro-Western and anti-Syrian. Given Hezbollah's status as a terrorist organization, and the backing it enjoys from Iran and Syria, the United States cannot afford for Hezbollah to emerge victorious from this confrontation.

Instead, it needs to use the crisis to finish the job the Bush Administration first started when it sponsored UNSC Resolution 1559. That resolution called for the withdrawal of all foreign forces from Lebanon AND the disbandment and disarming of all militias. Bush and Chirac insisted on the implementation of the first requirement but they ignored the second. Just as in the case of the Road Map's requirement for the dismantlement of the infrastructure of Palestinian terror, the Bush administration preferred to believe that elections would produce governments in Lebanon and the Palestinian Authority that would then be able to dismantle the terrorist infrastructure. Instead, Hezbollah took advantage of the Lebanese elections to enter the government where it has wielded a veto over any attempt to disarm it. And we all know what happened in the Palestinian elections. So the Bush administration needs to use this crisis to make progress on the disarmament issue in Lebanon and the Palestinian territories. It should be clear by now that a failure to do so will doom Bush?s democratic adventure on both fronts.

Achieving that objective is complicated by the fact that the U.S. does not have a lot of leverage over Hezbollah. Having insisted that Syria leave Lebanon, it cannot now turn to Syria to disarm Hezbollah. And the Iranians do not take the United States seriously given our problems in Iraq and our failure to extract any price for its repeated flouting of the demands of the international community when it comes to their nuclear program.

So the only real American leverage is through Israel's use of force. But that is a blunt instrument. Hezbollah hides behind civilians which means that the more force Israel uses to attack Hezbollah targets, the more Lebanese civilians die. And the longer Israel's bombardments go on, the more Lebanese become angry with Israel rather than Hezbollah. And at a certain point in the not too distant future, the international outcry may become so great that the Bush Administration is forced to abandon the effort and to insist instead that Israel stop.

Therefore, the Bush Administration needs to lay the groundwork now for a diplomatic initiative that will kick in when Israel has succeeded in denting Hezbollah's capabilities. That initiative would need to have the following elements:

  • An end to rocket attacks on Israel
  • An end to Israeli attacks on Lebanon
  • The removal of Hezbollah forces from the South
  • Their replacement with the Lebanese Armed Forces backed by a capable international force
  • Implementation of UNSC Resolution 1559
  • The return of the kidnapped Israeli soldiers.

    This list probably sounds familiar. That's because most of it was enunciated by Prime Minister Ehud Olmert in the Knesset on Monday.

    However, most of those points were also enunciated by the G-8 leaders in their statement on Sunday.

    Interestingly, they were also enunciated in a little-noticed speech by Lebanese Prime Minister Siniora on Saturday. However, the Lebanese Prime Minister added another point which Israelis should pay attention to. He offered:

  • A return to the Israel-Lebanon Armistice Agreement of 1949.

    What Siniora appeared to be saying by referencing that agreement is that he is prepared to deal directly with Israel and enter into what would be tantamount to a non-belligerency pact.

    In other words, even now, as the conflict escalates, the foundations of a diplomatic solution are being laid by responsible players on all sides.

    One question remains, however. How to get Hezbollah to acquiesce in the deal?

    Mr. Indyk
    Is there any chance that the Lebanese government will be able to
    exercise its authority in southern Lebanon?

    Thanks
    Marwan Madi



    I believe that only when the Lebanese government does exercise its authority in southern Lebanon will this crisis come to an end. What will that require?

    · First, the will to do it. In that context, Prime Minister Siniora deserves high praise for the courage he has repeatedly shown during this crisis. In each of his public statements, he has made clear that the Lebanese government must establish its authority in southern Lebanon.

    · Second, the capability to do it. In that regard, the Lebanese Armed Forces will need considerable assistance because they do not now have the capability to control southern Lebanon and prevent Hezbollah from reestablishing its military positions there.

    · Third, the support of the Lebanese people for the deployment. This is likely to be forthcoming if it has the backing of the United Nations Security Council and the Arab world and is presented to them as the road to their salvation. However, Lebanese Shiite communities in southern Lebanon that have depended for years on Hezbollah will need to be reassured that their concerns will be taken care of by the Lebanese government.

    · Fourth, the cooperation of Israel. This means that if a problem arises, such as a Hezbollah incursion into Israel, the government of Israel will have to delay its response until the Lebanese Government has had an opportunity to deal with the problem.

    Ultimately, one of the lessons of this crisis, in common with a lesson from the Gaza crisis, is that when Israel withdraws from Arab territory, there needs to be a responsible government with a capable military that fills the vacuum it leaves behind. If the government on the other side is too weak, then the international community needs to provide the backing that enables it to exercise its authority and prevent the cross-border attacks that precipitated these two crises.

  •   1.   Honest Broker 14:41  |  Amer 18/07/06
      2.   Another galvanized yankee 16:37  |  Veritas 18/07/06
      3.   A Lebanese Christian 16:50  |  Hala 18/07/06
      4.   lebanon 17:43  |  robert halsey 18/07/06
      5.   to Veritas 17:49  |  Munzer 18/07/06
      6.   The Lebanese Christian 17:51  |  An Iraqi 18/07/06
      7.   TO: "Another galvanized yankee" 17:51  |  Robert Flaum 18/07/06
      8.   Finally, A non-Ideologue 18:07  |  Mark of Lewiston 18/07/06
      9.   real question is how to realize the no-brainer list of demands 18:37  |  Bruce 18/07/06
      10.   Indyk Should Remove the Mask 18:37  |  Sam 18/07/06
      11.   An alternative plan that could create a new dynamic 18:45  |  Bruce 18/07/06
      12.   What the IDF can, and can`t, achieve 18:53  |  Canuck 18/07/06
      13.   #2 "Veritas" 18:57  |  Jeff 18/07/06
      14.   To Iraqi in London #6 19:08  |  Suha 18/07/06
      15.   #1 The world is not silent, Amer in Dubai 19:55  |  Max Zinger 18/07/06
      16.   lebanon 20:17  |  benny benjamin 18/07/06
      17.   To: Honest broker 20:20  |  Eli 18/07/06
      18.   Eli, read Entry #3 First 20:57  |  SAM 18/07/06
      19.   Lebanese Christian 21:12  |  Amir 18/07/06
      20.   #10: self-delusion 21:37  |  Paul Freedman 18/07/06
      21.   mark of lewiston you on the other hand 21:48  |  zadok the priest 18/07/06
      22.   question to SAM 00:03  |  Caesar 19/07/06
      23.   One question remains, however. 00:15  |  AMT 19/07/06
      24.   21 Zadok - You`re Mistaken 01:20  |  Mark of Lewiston 19/07/06
      25.   #17 Eli and his Geneva Convention analysis 02:24  |  Peace Seeker 19/07/06
      26.   lebanon 03:54  |  Lisa Javner 19/07/06
      27.   To Lebanese Christians 04:29  |  Faysal Itani 19/07/06
      28.   #20 Paul Freedman 04:45  |  Peace Seeker 19/07/06
      29.   Martin Indyk`s and UN Resolutions 05:05  |  Peace Seeker 19/07/06
      30.   Olmert Says Iran 06:18  |  Andrew 19/07/06
      31.   21 Zadok - 2nd attempt 07:02  |  Mark of Lewiston 19/07/06
      32.   To: Peace Seeker 07:29  |  John 19/07/06
      33.   human shields 07:33  |  Ohev Shalom 19/07/06
      34.   Dear Amer, an explanation 07:49  |  Ohev Shalom 19/07/06
      35.   Dear Amer, an explanation 07:49  |  Ohev Shalom 19/07/06
      36.   Veritas and Indyk 16:46  |  John S 19/07/06
      37.   why are you arguing about indyk 16:58  |  anna 19/07/06
      38.   Veritas 19:01  |  BS meter 19/07/06
      39.   Peace (sic) Seeker 19:46  |  BS meter 19/07/06
      40.   #28--good for you 21:18  |  Paul Freedman 19/07/06
      41.   targeted?? 22:03  |  Andrew 19/07/06
      42.   To all the Veritas bashers 23:51  |  Veritas 19/07/06
      43.   Lebanon - Israel 01:41  |  Gemma Menigatti 20/07/06
      44.   Ambassador Indyk 04:34  |  Paul 20/07/06
      45.   Gemma 05:11  |  John S 20/07/06
      46.   International Force - 1 18:58  |  Mark of Lewiston 20/07/06
      47.   International Force - 2 19:14  |  Mark of Lewiston 20/07/06
      48.   John S #45 21:57  |  Veritas 20/07/06
      49.   #10 it is wrong and unfair to call - 12:31  |  Rachel Mizner 21/07/06
      50.   It is clear why Martin Indyk is an `ex" 12:18  |  Mark Lincoln 22/07/06
      51.   Veritas # 48 23:25  |  BS meter 22/07/06
      52.   " Hamas` disinterest in negotiations with Israel" 14:57  |  Quoted 23/07/06
      53.   When has a nation so strong fought so long to lose much to so few 23:46  |  Knave Dave 02/09/06
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