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Posted: May 08, 2008

Obama and the Jews: is 61% enough?

1.

Barak Obama and his people should be happy about the headline attached to the new Gallup analysis: Obama Beats McCain Among Jewish Voters. But truly, that is a misleading headline. Even in his wildest dreams no McCain activist was hoping that his candidate will beat Obama fair and square among Jewish voters. American Jews are liberal Democrats. A Democratic nominee cannot conceivably lose most of the Jewish votes. In their dreams, the McCain people hope that their candidate will be able to pull out the almost 40% Ronald Reagan got from Jews back in 1980.

"Barack Obama is faring better than might be expected among Jewish voters" the poll says.

"Expected" by whom?

According to the new Gallup data he will only get 61% of the vote, and McCain will get 32%. That is 13% less for Obama than the percentage of Jewish Americans voting for John Kerry back it 2004, and 7% more for McCain than the number of Jewish Americans voting for Bush back in 2004. That can be, well, the difference between winning and losing Florida.

2.

"Jewish Democrats continue to favor Clinton, but by only a slim margin over Obama -- 50% to 43% in April, compared with 51% to 41% in March", the Gallup poll says. That is nice for Obama, as we observed back when the first poll was released. But not as nice as one might think: apparently, Jews who prefer Clinton are more prone to defect to the McCain camp if Obama becomes the nominee. That is why Obama is only leading McCain 61-32, and Clinton is leading McCain 66-27.

In other words: against Clinton, McCain will only be able to attract 2% more than Bush in 2004. That is quite remarkable considering the fact that McCain was never a nuisance to Jewish liberals to the extent Bush was and still is.

3.

"Obama's Jewish support is holding up" says the poll. That is true, and might seem somewhat surprising in light of recent events. Apparently, Jewish voters who supported Obama were not impressed by the Jeremiah Wright affair, and kept their loyalties intact. We do not know, though, if this affair was not the one driving Clinton supporters away from Obama and toward McCain, because the survey six weeks ago did not compare between the two Democrats and McCain.

4.

The Republican Jewish Coalition was quick to respond to this poll, saying that "The recent polling numbers demonstrate Obama's weakness among Jewish voters".

My hands are clean when it comes to Obama's popularity among Jews. I argued in the past against such claims, and wrote that "most of those believing that Obama has a real problem with the Jewish vote are those who want him to have such a problem".

Well, whether one likes it or not, there is a beginning of a proof now. Ironically, it comes from a poll that is markedly positive in tone in regard to Obama.

5.

After Clinton won the Jewish vote in Pennsylvania by a fairly large margin, I wrote that "Jews did not just vote for Clinton more than the average Pennsylvanian did; they voted for her in even greater relative margin of difference when one considers the community from which they come".

With the newly released poll, again, we should also look at comparisons and not just at the fresh data. And such comparison raises some questions.

For example: The Gallup pollsters explain that "Jewish Democrats continue to favor Clinton, but by only a slim margin over Obama -- 50% to 43% in April, compared with 51% to 41% in March". But this is not exactly consistent with the reported numbers they have published in March. Back then, they claimed that it was much closer: 48% to Clinton, 43% to Obama ? and that is why when we reported this survey we headlined our article "Jewish Democrats: Half pro-Clinton, half pro-Obama".

Strangely, Gallup does not explain the difference in numbers, and to some suspicious minds this might seem almost like a deliberate attempt by the good people of Gallup to report only the good news when it comes to Obama.

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  1.   Who CARES??? 02:34  |  William 08/05/08
  2.   Obama and the Jews 05:16  |  Truesdell 08/05/08
  3.   Why Obama isn`t Jewish Favorite 05:23  |  sherry 08/05/08
  4.   Obama support 05:24  |  Larry 08/05/08
  5.   Is it because he`s black 05:26  |  Sara 08/05/08
  6.   Democrats and the Jewish Vote 05:29  |  Dan R 08/05/08
  7.   Obama To Sara #5 05:47  |  Gregg 08/05/08
  8.   obama and jewish voters 05:55  |  stefan zelba 08/05/08
  9.   Both Sherry and Sara are fake posters 05:56  |  I 08/05/08
  10.   US Jews bombarded with anti-Obama smears 05:58  |  Obama Mama 08/05/08
  11.   Obama has no real love for Israel 06:00  |  Jeff 08/05/08
  12.   To #11: So? In fact, this could be a good news - for Israel. 06:32  |  Jozef 08/05/08
  13.   Obama will rule America! 06:32  |  Pastor Emmanuel 08/05/08
  14.   Obama Mama is right 06:42  |  sherry 08/05/08
  15.   Americans are sick of the Middle East 06:45  |  Purple Flakes 08/05/08
  16.   #9 Who`s the fake? 06:54  |  sherry 08/05/08
  17.   Obama`s Jews ? It Saddens Me Any of Us Would Support Him 07:16  |  Tod Zuckerman 08/05/08
  18.   Decisions, decisions 07:33  |  Morris Valentine 08/05/08
  19.   Strussian Zionists 07:48  |  Kosher 08/05/08
  20.   jewish liberal democrats for hillary 08:02  |  emily lewis 08/05/08
  21.   16 Sorry Sherry, you ARE no fake but you are a true antisemite 08:05  |  I 08/05/08
  22.   #1 Hey Dummy, jews care how jews vote!! 08:10  |  Abraham Saks 08/05/08
  23.   JEWS FOR OBAMA 08:21  |  Mona 08/05/08
  24.   #17 Todd Zuckerman - Your ignorance should sadden you! 08:28  |  Obama Mama 08/05/08
  25.   Is 61% enough? Why does it matter? 09:28  |  Natallie Durson 08/05/08
  26.   McCain is Decency. Obama Not! 09:48  |  S. Bole 08/05/08
  27.   THIS WONDER BOY OBAMA 09:49  |  indrajaya 08/05/08
  28.   # 19 - I A "true" anti-semite? 09:50  |  Natallie Durson 08/05/08
  29.   Rev. Wright Fright 10:07  |  Gabriel 08/05/08
  30.   23Natalie You just represent the Terror organizations, Hamas 10:24  |  I 08/05/08
  31.   # 15, PURPLE FLAKES 10:27  |  indrajaya 08/05/08
  32.   The "Israel-firsters", fact or fiction.....????? 10:51  |  Swiss (Dino) 08/05/08
  33.   #21, Durson, since it does not matter 10:57  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 08/05/08
  34.   #29, Dino, lesson in reality and in democracy 11:25  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 08/05/08
  35.   # 32 Kohn - American mideast interests 12:06  |  Natallie Durson 08/05/08
  36.   # 33 Cipora Julianna Kohn 12:06  |  Swiss (Dino) 08/05/08
  37.   #24, people who are interested to know about this 12:14  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 08/05/08
  38.   #35, Durson 12:25  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 08/05/08
  39.   Dino, you obviously did not understand "democracy" 12:35  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 08/05/08
  40.   #18, Morris Valentine, is he lying? 12:40  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 08/05/08
  41.   In The End It Won`t Be About The Middle East 12:55  |  Yosemite 08/05/08
  42.   # 38 Kohn - The mideast oil trade 13:39  |  Natallie Durson 08/05/08
  43.   Natallie Durson: Most Jews are Against the War in Iraq 14:33  |  Ronnie Wolman 08/05/08
  44.   Yes he can! lose the Jewish vote, he has already. 14:37  |  r 08/05/08
  45.   Ronnie Wolman 14:48  |  Natallie Durson 08/05/08
  46.   It is time for a person of color to rule America 14:54  |  Rabbi Toni Jutner 08/05/08
  47.   Natallie Durson:Its not Simply their Own Issues 15:09  |  Ronnie Wolman 08/05/08
  48.   Hey ObamaMama 16:22  |  HulkHogan 08/05/08
  49.   Who cares about the Jewish vote? 16:23  |  Tosefta 08/05/08
  50.   # 28 Natallie Durson - ypu do not qualify to be anti-semite 16:24  |  17 08/05/08
  51.   Most US Jews are Political Morons 16:24  |  MIKE 08/05/08
  52.   MORE than enough...he needs to worry about getting the Hispanic 16:32  |  american 08/05/08
  53.   Use the election to make best case for Israel 16:44  |  David Hoffman 08/05/08
  54.   The Jewish Vote is Over-Rated 16:46  |  MIKE 08/05/08
  55.   Obama 17:04  |  patty 08/05/08
  56.   Question to Natallie 17:22  |  wondering 08/05/08
  57.   US support for Israel 17:36  |  christa 08/05/08
  58.   To CJK (#40) 17:54  |  Morris Valentine 08/05/08
  59.   Who cares about the Jewish vote? 18:41  |  Tosefta 08/05/08
  60.   Natallie Durson: Lip Service 19:03  |  CHGODMK 08/05/08
  61.   who CARES!!?!? 19:04  |  Clark 08/05/08
  62.   Peace? America isn`t the answer 19:15  |  Bill Rose 08/05/08
  63.   #11 - Jeff 19:30  |  MichaelF 08/05/08
  64.   #15 - Purple Flakes 19:34  |  MichaelF 08/05/08
  65.   #31 - indrajaya 19:38  |  MichaelF 08/05/08
  66.   Obama and the Jews 19:59  |  Yoshihiro Takemitsu 08/05/08
  67.   #44 R 20:06  |  kathy 08/05/08
  68.   Response to #24 - Obama Mama 20:06  |  Tod Zuckerman 08/05/08
  69.   # 23 Right on--- World has paid enough compensation 20:13  |  Bobby 08/05/08
  70.   obama and the jews 20:33  |  jamie 08/05/08
  71.   Yoshihiro Takemitsu 20:34  |  CHGODMK 08/05/08
  72.   obama and the jewsj 20:44  |  jamie 08/05/08
  73.   Yosemite 20:57  |  CHGODMK 08/05/08
  74.   Obama 21:04  |  Dany 08/05/08
  75.   Yes, we can get Jewish votes 21:47  |  Omolll 08/05/08
  76.   #71 Jamie 21:53  |  kathy 08/05/08
  77.   #54 Patty---"Brainwashed" 22:00  |  kathy 08/05/08
  78.   Dany in Israel 22:04  |  CHGODMK 08/05/08
  79.   #72 Danny 22:05  |  kathy 08/05/08
  80.   Bogus numbers intended to do Damage Control 22:09  |  Candida 08/05/08
  81.   No way for Barack.............. 23:03  |  NS 08/05/08
  82.   Obama unelectable 23:20  |  Garette 08/05/08
  83.   I care.... 23:47  |  Gray 08/05/08
  84.   #5 sara 00:06  |  wh 09/05/08
  85.   IF 00:15  |  wh 09/05/08
  86.   I care.... 00:22  |  Gray 09/05/08
  87.   Swiss (Dino) - #32 00:56  |  David Isarel 09/05/08
  88.   Superficial Hillary Clinton. 01:39  |  Maureen Ann 09/05/08
  89.   #80 NS 01:59  |  kathy 09/05/08
  90.   #85 Right on Gray!!!! Tell them once again. 02:00  |  kathy 09/05/08
  91.   CHGODMK # 71 What About The Veterans` Vote? 02:00  |  Jeff Northridge 09/05/08
  92.   Obamaphobia 02:05  |  CHGODMK 09/05/08
  93.   US needs to stop giving taxpayers money to the Jews #23. 69. 02:33  |  Shahid 09/05/08
  94.   Obama and the Jews - is it because he`s black? 02:36  |  Nick in Virginia 09/05/08
  95.   #61 - Who cares about the Jewish Vote 02:41  |  Nick in Virginia 09/05/08
  96.   # 10 US Jews bombarded with anti-Obama smears 02:44  |  Jeff 09/05/08
  97.   Not so smart, really.... 02:46  |  DB 09/05/08
  98.   mccain 03:29  |  tiina tavela 09/05/08
  99.   Garette #81 -- That`s what they said about Regan in `80 04:04  |  bbl 09/05/08
  100.   Maureen Ann -- You are going to be quite disappointed 04:12  |  bbl 09/05/08
  101.   Shahid 15/100 of a penny per dollar is irrelevant 04:14  |  bbl 09/05/08
  102.   Finally someone gets it! 04:32  |  Beverly 09/05/08
  103.   YIKES! Obama Heavenly Choice-What? as the Anti-Christ 04:34  |  Sam W. 09/05/08
  104.   Thanks Kathy #89 Not this veteran, Jeff#90 04:46  |  Gray 09/05/08
  105.   Jeff Northridge #90 re: One Vet`s Bet 04:56  |  CHGODMK 09/05/08
  106.   Continued from earlier post... 05:01  |  Gray 09/05/08
  107.   Jeff in Windsor, Canada #95 05:12  |  CHGODMK 09/05/08
  108.   obama and the jews 05:31  |  jamie 09/05/08
  109.   "liberal democrats" 05:34  |  Shmuelshachor 09/05/08
  110.   #68 Todd Zuckerman -On stereotypes 05:37  |  Obama Mama 09/05/08
  111.   to sara on #6 05:41  |  Shmuelshachor 09/05/08
  112.   obama and the jews 05:48  |  jamie 09/05/08
  113.   #48 To the Non-Credible Hulk 05:55  |  Obama Mama 09/05/08
  114.   Obama 05:56  |  Dany 09/05/08
  115.   Jews only 2% of US electorate so who cares about them 05:58  |  Shahid 09/05/08
  116.   OBAMA AND THE JEWS 06:22  |  jamie 09/05/08
  117.   Dany Boy in Haifa, Israel #110 06:36  |  CHGODMK 09/05/08
  118.   Shahid: "Jews..." #111 06:41  |  CHGODMK 09/05/08
  119.   69 Bobby World has paid more compensation to Pals 06:59  |  I 09/05/08
  120.   PEOPLE JUST DON`T GET IT 07:41  |  indrajaya 09/05/08
  121.   To Shahid (#111): Civics lesson 08:23  |  Morris Valentine 09/05/08
  122.   Strangely, Gallup does not explain the difference in numbers, 08:36  |  a wandering Jew 09/05/08
  123.   Obama will win because he is anti-christ 08:37  |  jeremiah 09/05/08
  124.   No. 15 Would you fight for democracy? 08:46  |  a wandering Jew 09/05/08
  125.   mccain "defections" apply to both candidates among all voters 09:40  |  eric 09/05/08
  126.   #93 I hope so too! 10:38  |  Bruni 09/05/08
  127.   Jeremiah -- Get over yourself 13:18  |  bbl 09/05/08
  128.   Obama and the Jews 16:32  |  Jaime Eisen 09/05/08
  129.   #109 Shmuelshachor 16:36  |  kathy 09/05/08
  130.   THat is balderdash,completely !! 17:07  |  Ted Greenfield 09/05/08
  131.   to Kathy #129 18:48  |  Jamie 09/05/08
  132.   to Kathy #129 FLOATING IN SPACE!!! 18:54  |  Jamie 09/05/08
  133.   If Israel-firsters bring down Obama, democrats will remember 19:18  |  Pablo B 09/05/08
  134.   to "pastor" emmanuel on #13 19:25  |  Shmuelshachor 09/05/08
  135.   to BROWN FLAKES ON #15 19:31  |  Shmuelshachor 09/05/08
  136.   Barry Hussein 19:32  |  Jay 09/05/08
  137.   OBAMA AND THE JEWS---PUTZ PART 2 21:14  |  jamie 09/05/08
  138.   Sara do not listen to Nick from Virginia 21:54  |  s_charles 09/05/08
  139.   #132 Jamie, sorry to disappoint you! 22:17  |  kathy 09/05/08
  140.   Pablo B no.133--Your comments are nonsense. 23:49  |  a wandering Jew 09/05/08
  141.   Jews For Obama 00:34  |  Paul Fingerhut 10/05/08
  142.   ASK MUSLIMS ABOIT DUEL LOYALITY 00:51  |  TOBIA 10/05/08
  143.   WH 01:51  |  TOBIA 10/05/08
  144.   Kathy, Kathy, Kathy #139 STILL IN SPACE!!! 04:14  |  Jamie 10/05/08
  145.   66: there is a Jewish Vote, get use to it. 06:28  |  AngryJewGirl 10/05/08
  146.   Voting is overrated 06:35  |  AngryJewGirl 10/05/08
  147.   141 Wrigth was mainly on the $ 06:42  |  AngryJewGir. 10/05/08
  148.   I`m Jewish and I`m not voting for Obama 06:44  |  Channah 10/05/08
  149.   11: Obma has no real nothing 06:49  |  AngryJewGirl 10/05/08
  150.   obama the bomb 07:00  |  moses 10/05/08
  151.   Reply to 117 07:48  |  Dany 10/05/08
  152.   #21 Any Outside Interest 08:57  |  sherry 10/05/08
  153.   #144 Jaimie--it helps to stay current 10:21  |  kathy 10/05/08
  154.   Obama and the Jews 18:49  |  David Allen 10/05/08
  155.   Response to "Who CARES" 19:01  |  David Allen 10/05/08
  156.   sherri 19:04  |  David Allen 10/05/08
  157.   Jews are not loyal Americans 20:20  |  John 10/05/08
  158.   Jews don`t care about issues important to AMERICANS 20:32  |  John 10/05/08
  159.   Why Obama Isn`t Jewish Favorite 22:19  |  Basel 10/05/08
  160.   John in NYC: Do You Eat with That Mouth? #157 00:15  |  CHGODMK 11/05/08
  161.   The Jewish vote 03:13  |  4baer 11/05/08
  162.   Jewish Superiority??? 10:56  |  Torrance 11/05/08
  163.   Sara # 5 16:05  |  JordanisPalestine 11/05/08
  164.   #46 Rabbi Toni Jutner 16:09  |  JordanisPalestine 11/05/08
  165.   Paul Fingerhut #141 16:15  |  JordanisPalestine 11/05/08
  166.   Sherry #142 16:17  |  JordanisPalestine 11/05/08
  167.   Obama 2008 22:56  |  Sanda 11/05/08
  168.   Two of the Most Racist Races 12:18  |  Gno Kidding 12/05/08
  169.   Israeland Jews America`s Friend??? 19:39  |  Erbut Haarat 12/05/08
  170.   #169- you cant be serious 09:49  |  Gary 14/05/08
  171.   Jewish vote? 10:09  |  Sara 03/07/08
  172.   More meaninless inaccurate polls! 03:31  |  David 09/07/08


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