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A promise no Jewish liberal can ignore

After watching the debate this evening, I added some new remarks about it with parts of the feature I wrote Tuesday for the print edition.

Most children raised as Jews remain Jewish as adults, the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life found in its recent report, "U.S. Religious Landscape Survey." About 9 percent convert to another religion, and another 14 percent drop their religious affiliation altogether.

Although those numbers are high, they are lower than was previously thought. On the whole, some 44 percent of U.S. citizens change their religious affiliation as adults, an astounding figure that indicates Americans' religious fluidity. Even if one disregards shifts between the different Protestant denominations, the figure is still an impressive 28 percent.

I keep reminding myself of these numbers as I think about the constant noise made by people who are now trying to portray Senator Barak Obama as a Muslim. One has to conclude: If religious fluidity is such an American routine - then Obama's personal biography is even more representative of the American experience than anyone could have imagined.

Connecticut's Jewish senator Joe Lieberman is a steadfast supporter of John McCain, while the state's other senator, Chris Dodd, announced his support for Obama on Tuesday. During the Super Tuesday primaries, Connecticut Jews made up 9 percent of voters, and 61 percent of them voted for Obama - one of the most telling signs that Obama can pull the Jewish vote. However, this week was remarkable for those following the story of Obama and the Jews. This is the week in which the story became national news. Not that there's anything new to report. It is just the fact that the national media is suddenly paying more attention (it is an interesting story to watch, as readers of this column already know). Newsweek wrote about it this week. CNN had a short segment (I know because I was in it). And tonight, at the Democratic debate, a fairly long slice of the evening was dedicated to this issue.

Tim Russert started the debate by pressing Obama on the endorsement he got from the anti-Semitic African-American leader Louis Farrakhan. Obama said: "I have been very clear in my denunciations of Minister Farrakhan's anti-Semitic comments. I did not solicit this support."

Enter Hillary Clinton.

If anyone had any doubt that Hillary's campaign is trying to score points against Obama in the Jewish community - today she gave us the proof, publicly. "You asked specifically if he [Obama] would reject it [the endorsement] and there's a difference between denouncing and rejecting", she argued. Meaning - Obama is merely denouncing Farrakhan instead of rejecting the endorsement.

What was she trying to say - that Obama is somewhat anti-Semitic? Let's assume she was just thinking that Obama was playing politics and is trying not to offend Farrakhan's supporters while he denounces his views.

In any case, in this exchange Obama got the upper hand: "If the word 'reject' Senator Clinton feels is stronger than the word 'denounce', then I'm happy to concede the point and I would reject and denounce [Farrakhan]" he said.

Obama spoke about this same issue a few days ago as he was meeting a group of Jewish activists in Cleveland. Some who attended the event and do not belong to his camp said he was very convincing. "At his best," one of them said. But in the debate he was even better and was able to score again on the same topic, elaborating on something of great importance to Jewish liberals.

Just recently we were all watching The Jewish Americans series on PBS, in which the story of Jewish involvement in the civil rights movement was front and center - and the part describing how the bond between black Americans and Jewish Americans was breaking was almost puzzling.

Obama, talking about Farrakhan - and about anti-Semitism among African-Americans, which he also denounced in his speech on Martin Luther King Day - touched a sensitive nerve when he was talking about one possibility that's inherent to his candidacy: he has the chance to restore the alliance between blacks and Jews.

This will not necessarily get Obama the votes of every Jewish liberal in this country. But it is also one promise that no American liberal Jew can simply ignore.

  1.   EVERY CORNERS OF THE WORLD: OBAMA 10:38  |  indrajaya 27/02/08
  2.   Obama Sell Out the Jews 10:40  |  nic 27/02/08
  3.   American Jews Stop Harping On Obama 10:57  |  Martin 27/02/08
  4.   where is pew report??? 10:58  |  Rob of melbourne 27/02/08
  5.   John McCain does not need to say the `right` thing to get votes. 11:33  |  Pavel 27/02/08
  6.   leave us alone Indraya 11:35  |  joe 27/02/08
  7.   african-american interests 11:43  |  george 27/02/08
  8.   #5 Joe leave us alone Indraya 12:01  |  Warren 27/02/08
  9.   #6 George 12:02  |  Question Mark 27/02/08
  10.   Justice and Equality 12:03  |  Dror 27/02/08
  11.   President Obama 12:38  |  Ariel 27/02/08
  12.   Tiger Woods, Obama, America, Israel 12:58  |  Dov Ber 27/02/08
  13.   Liberal Jewish Democrats, where do you stand on "Israel"...???? 13:02  |  Swiss (Dino) 27/02/08
  14.   U.S. Democrats, where do you stand on "Israel" ??? (2) 13:15  |  Swiss (Dino) 27/02/08
  15.   There is one SHINING example of a true Jewish liberal democrat 13:37  |  Swiss (Dino) 27/02/08
  16.   blacks and jews 13:48  |  english jew 27/02/08
  17.   He will still rank at the bottom for Rosner`s panel 14:23  |  Smolanit 27/02/08
  18.   Rob here it is 14:25  |  Big Sooz 27/02/08
  19.   Wellstone - Swiss (Dino) 14 and 15 14:57  |  Galuteus Maximus 27/02/08
  20.   To Swiss Dino 14:58  |  Dr Eric 27/02/08
  21.   To Swiss Dino - Siding with Arafat is not Lideral!! 15:02  |  Dr Eric 27/02/08
  22.   Dr. Eric, yes we know all that and heres something for you 15:18  |  Yaakov Sullivan 27/02/08
  23.   # 19 Galuteus Maximus 15:34  |  Swiss (Dino) 27/02/08
  24.   Hear no evil 15:35  |  Gayle 27/02/08
  25.   Obama is a shining light. 15:38  |  The Equalizer 27/02/08
  26.   # 20 / # 21 Dr Eric on settlements 15:44  |  Swiss (Dino) 27/02/08
  27.   # 20 / # 21 Dr Eric on Jewish liberals in the U.S. 15:56  |  Swiss (Dino) 27/02/08
  28.   #14 Swiss 15:56  |  Question Mark 27/02/08
  29.   Dror 15:56  |  Dror`s Conscience 27/02/08
  30.   Ariel in TLV 16:00  |  Eitan 27/02/08
  31.   Martin 16:04  |  Eitan 27/02/08
  32.   WILL IT BE AMERICANS VERSES JEWS? 16:20  |  Mike 27/02/08
  33.   Swiss Dino&Yaakov Sullivan,swiss Dino,you are 100%right about the 16:41  |  lakshmi 27/02/08
  34.   conversions 16:41  |  Shmuelshachor 27/02/08
  35.   # 28 Question Mark, you (almost) have a point...... 16:47  |  Swiss (Dino) 27/02/08
  36.   Obama Speaks on Jewish Issues 16:56  |  JR 27/02/08
  37.   To the gullible liberal Jewish democrats 16:57  |  Honest Norm 27/02/08
  38.   # 28 Question Mark, by the way, Obama was indeed pro-Palestinian 17:03  |  Swiss (Dino) 27/02/08
  39.   HE KNOWS WHAT PEACE MEANS 17:32  |  indrajaya 27/02/08
  40.   # 33 lakshmi 17:38  |  Swiss (Dino) 27/02/08
  41.   American Jews and Blacks should be friends 17:41  |  American 27/02/08
  42.   o really george? mind telling me why 2/3 of the freedom riders 17:57  |  Amie 27/02/08
  43.   @9, ? george does not know what are you talking about, for him on 18:09  |  vladimir 27/02/08
  44.   "Enough is Enouigh" 18:19  |  Bodfish Stan 27/02/08
  45.   #40 Swiss 18:30  |  Question Mark 27/02/08
  46.   Obama can indeed bring Blacks and Jews together...... 18:43  |  Swiss (Dino) 27/02/08
  47.   jewish black allience can only exist on the left 18:51  |  mehmet 27/02/08
  48.   #8,Warren, do you think you are in Europe mate? 19:03  |  Katabalam 27/02/08
  49.   # 9 Question Mark re:George..Well Said.How Quickly People Forget. 19:34  |  JOSH 27/02/08
  50.   Mehmet - Turk oppression of Kurds has an end too 19:35  |  Jewboy 27/02/08
  51.   # 45 Question mark (1) 19:46  |  Swiss (Dino) 27/02/08
  52.   If Obama Would Make Alan Keyes Secretary Of Defense... 19:48  |  Yosemite 27/02/08
  53.   # 45 Question mark (2) 20:04  |  Swiss (Dino) 27/02/08
  54.   # 32 Mike WILL IT BE AMERICANS VERSES JEWS? 20:14  |  JOSH 27/02/08
  55.   #51 Swiss 20:22  |  Question Mark 27/02/08
  56.   # 8 Warren OOPS! While I agree With You about Indonesians 20:27  |  JOSH 27/02/08
  57.   Swiss dodo 20:35  |  Danite 27/02/08
  58.   )Swiss) Dino, very true words on "kosher-test" 20:51  |  Mark B. 27/02/08
  59.   Taqiyya! ANTI-ISRAEL OBAMA Raised Funds for ISLAMIC Causes (1) 20:55  |  Linda Rivera 27/02/08
  60.   Keyes/Obama and Sec State 20:56  |  John Isenhower 27/02/08
  61.   Eitan #30 20:56  |  Ariel 27/02/08
  62.   Taqiyya! ANTI-ISRAEL OBAMA Raised Funds for ISLAMIC Causes (2) 20:58  |  Linda Rivera 27/02/08
  63.   Jews bahaving cowardly again. 21:19  |  Dr. Pupikman 27/02/08
  64.   Barak Hhussein oBAMA 22:07  |  Avram 27/02/08
  65.   Ariel in TLV 22:09  |  Eitan 27/02/08
  66.   # 59 And #62 Linda Rivera.re:Obama and the Connection etc.Thanks 22:17  |  JOSH 27/02/08
  67.   arnie #42 & vladimir #43 22:20  |  george 27/02/08
  68.   Rosner-- the true oBAMA girl! 22:20  |  Avram 27/02/08
  69.   # 67 george..What has Al Jolson To Do With Blacks..But READ ON! 22:39  |  JOSH 27/02/08
  70.   # 64 and # 68 Avram..Barak Hussein oBAMA,NOT! 22:51  |  JOSH 27/02/08
  71.   rosner should be oBAMAS second wife. They are allowed four! 22:52  |  Avram 27/02/08
  72.   # 55 Question Mark 22:56  |  Swiss (Dino) 27/02/08
  73.   #67 george 23:00  |  Question Mark 27/02/08
  74.   # 57 Danite 23:08  |  Swiss (Dino) 27/02/08
  75.   Black Antisemitism 23:09  |  Liberal American Jew 27/02/08
  76.   Obama or Hitlery: shining light? 23:16  |  kay 27/02/08
  77.   josh #69 23:16  |  george 27/02/08
  78.   Avram in SF #64 23:17  |  CHGODMK 27/02/08
  79.   Avram in SF #71 23:20  |  CHGODMK 27/02/08
  80.   question mark #73 23:22  |  george 27/02/08
  81.   # 58 Mark B. 23:27  |  Swiss (Dino) 27/02/08
  82.   Obama going for Yiddish lessons 23:34  |  Lili Wachsman 27/02/08
  83.   #10 Dror 23:40  |  ballistic 27/02/08
  84.   George 23:41  |  Question Mark 27/02/08
  85.   Jews and blacks in USA 23:43  |  Avram 27/02/08
  86.   liberal american jew #74 23:43  |  george 27/02/08
  87.   #23 Swiss (Dino) Wellstone vote on Jerusalem 23:44  |  Galuteus Maximus 27/02/08
  88.   # 58, By the way, Markie, if you google........ 23:45  |  Swiss (Dino) 27/02/08
  89.   #16 English Jew 23:46  |  ballistic 27/02/08
  90.   Denouncing or rejecting... 23:51  |  Esther 27/02/08
  91.   question mark #80 23:55  |  george 27/02/08
  92.   @86 Dino my man 00:01  |  Mark B. 28/02/08
  93.   george, continued 00:05  |  Question Mark 28/02/08
  94.   Black-Jewish Relations - From A Black-Jew`s POV 00:05  |  Natan Or 28/02/08
  95.   Black-Jewish Relations - From A Black-Jew`s POV 00:07  |  Natan Or 28/02/08
  96.   Democrats vote for Hillary before it is too late! 00:08  |  Doug 28/02/08
  97.   # 86 Galuteus Maximus 00:12  |  Swiss (Dino) 28/02/08
  98.   Sen. Obama is not a product of the American slavery institution. 00:13  |  avigdor 28/02/08
  99.   Avram in SF 00:23  |  Natan Or 28/02/08
  100.   Obama and Israel 00:23  |  Erin Corrigan 28/02/08
  101.   natan or #93 & 94 00:23  |  george 28/02/08
  102.   Ballistic 00:44  |  CHGODMK 28/02/08
  103.   #78 CHGODMK re:Avram..Well dear man Prove it to us.. 00:51  |  JOSH 28/02/08
  104.   Avigdor re: Obama 00:52  |  CHGODMK 28/02/08
  105.   avigdor #98 00:52  |  george 28/02/08
  106.   avigdor #98 00:52  |  george 28/02/08
  107.   # 99 Natan AND TO ALL YOUR RESPONSES:GOD BLESS YOU!. 01:36  |  JOSH 28/02/08
  108.   HAARETZ PLEASE SEND MY BEST WISHES TO NATAN OR.FOR HIS WISE WORDS 02:30  |  JOSH 28/02/08
  109.   He knows what peace means 02:51  |  Helena 28/02/08
  110.   Reject vs Denounce: The power of words 03:30  |  Nate Tattinger 28/02/08
  111.   #52 Yosemite 04:04  |  ballistic 28/02/08
  112.   #60 No to Keyes!!! 04:07  |  ballistic 28/02/08
  113.   Avidor; Obama has been in the US 04:10  |  ballistic 28/02/08
  114.   To Isenhower on Rumsfeld 04:12  |  Simon 28/02/08
  115.   #103 Nate re Obama`s denoucement 04:18  |  ballistic 28/02/08
  116.   ,How Mean to Omit my Response to #101 george.re; Natan Or.. 04:21  |  JOSH 28/02/08
  117.   Obama and Farrakhan 04:25  |  Simon 28/02/08
  118.   THE REAL REASON 61% OF CONNECTICUT JEWS VOTED FOR OBAMA 05:21  |  PhiloEvraios 28/02/08
  119.   As an Obama supporter, I know what is good for Israel 05:31  |  omolll 28/02/08
  120.   nate #103 & ballistic #106 06:07  |  george 28/02/08
  121.   Plain and Simple Any Black Person Should not associate with Jews 06:26  |  Aaron 28/02/08
  122.   All Obama can do... 07:11  |  James 28/02/08
  123.   Sen. Obama DOES NOT trace his heritage to the white slave holders 08:10  |  avigdor 28/02/08
  124.   THE LAST POLL FOR OBAMA 08:17  |  indrajaya 28/02/08
  125.   Too Bad Alan Keyes Isn`t Running Because... 08:40  |  Yosemite 28/02/08
  126.   Rumsfeld 08:51  |  Yosemite 28/02/08
  127.   #14 Swiss (dino) 09:11  |  Straight shooter 28/02/08
  128.   Yaakov sullivan 09:24  |  No Dope 28/02/08
  129.   # 127 Straight shooter 10:40  |  Swiss (Dino) 28/02/08
  130.   #125 Yoosemite 14:27  |  ballistic 28/02/08
  131.   JOSH 15:25  |  CHGODMK 28/02/08
  132.   Avigdor 15:29  |  CHGODMK 28/02/08
  133.   Rosner claiming Obama was Muslim? 17:16  |  MB 28/02/08
  134.   avigdor 19:28  |  george 28/02/08
  135.   I never thought it would happen! 20:48  |  Mark B. 28/02/08
  136.   Marxist or socialist? 20:57  |  Ethel 28/02/08
  137.   #120 George---I agree with your great post! 22:55  |  ballistic 28/02/08
  138.   #102 CHGODMK 23:03  |  ballistic 28/02/08
  139.   Ballistic 00:22  |  CHGODMK 29/02/08
  140.   Jewish Liberalism 00:38  |  Bob Shapiro 29/02/08
  141.   #125 Yosemite--McCain born in PANAMA!!!! 00:39  |  ballistic 29/02/08
  142.   Blacks and Jews relationships 00:46  |  Bob Shapiro 29/02/08
  143.   ANTI-BALLISTIC SHIELD 01:39  |  Patrick Warner 29/02/08
  144.   Can Obama restore alliance? I hope not. 03:06  |  Paul Easton 29/02/08
  145.   Sen. Obama, as a calculated and normal politician, has allowed 07:53  |  avigdor 29/02/08
  146.   "ballistic" : woman, it is still time for you to convert, learn 08:07  |  avigdor 29/02/08
  147.   #136 Say Patrick; are you another 09:09  |  ballistic 29/02/08
  148.   #135 CHGODMK 09:15  |  ballistic 29/02/08
  149.   #136 Patrick Warner 16:52  |  George 29/02/08
  150.   US whites found a shortcut to jump start the "great experiment" 17:55  |  avigdor 29/02/08
  151.   BALLISTIC 19:22  |  Patrick Warner 29/02/08
  152.   PETTY DISLIKES FOR JEWS 20:29  |  TOBIA 29/02/08
  153.   #140 Hey George 21:59  |  ballistic 29/02/08
  154.   Say Patrick--what happened to your Ballistic shield, mate? 22:23  |  ballistic 29/02/08
  155.   To # 13 (swiss Dino) 22:36  |  martin list, m.d. 29/02/08
  156.   Patrick cont 22:58  |  ballistic 29/02/08
  157.   Patrick con`t 23:10  |  ballistic 29/02/08
  158.   Patrick con`t -last 23:28  |  ballistic 29/02/08
  159.   BALLISTIC 01:13  |  Patrick Warner 01/03/08
  160.   BALLISTIC 01:16  |  Patrick Warner 01/03/08
  161.   # 140--George 01:41  |  Patrick Warner 01/03/08
  162.   BTW Patrick 02:04  |  ballistic 01/03/08
  163.   #54 JOSH 02:50  |  Center 01/03/08
  164.   #60 Say John 03:03  |  ballistic 01/03/08
  165.   BALLISTIC 03:19  |  Patrick Warner 01/03/08
  166.   #!58 Patrick 04:10  |  ballistic 01/03/08
  167.   #158 Say Patrick 04:20  |  ballistic 01/03/08
  168.   BTW Patrick--it wasn`t Oral Roberts 04:22  |  ballistic 01/03/08
  169.   Hillary is not Bill 09:24  |  Mark Leaman 01/03/08
  170.   Say Avigdor 10:31  |  ballistic 01/03/08
  171.   #145 Say Avigdor 10:51  |  ballistic 01/03/08
  172.   Say Shmuelshachor down in Rio! 11:20  |  ballistic 01/03/08
  173.   BALLISTIC 15:27  |  Patrick Warner 01/03/08
  174.   # 163 Center..Now if You had Read My Post Properly 19:11  |  JOSH 01/03/08
  175.   !73 Patrick--3rd try for 1 word post! 20:41  |  ballistic 01/03/08
  176.   Balloistic # 176 ---Racism re: 175 21:28  |  Patrick Warner 01/03/08
  177.   Say Josh, you post nonsense 22:19  |  ballistic 01/03/08
  178.   Ballistic 00:30  |  TOBIA 02/03/08
  179.   Ballistic 03:42  |  Moshe Finklestein 02/03/08
  180.   #152 Tobia 05:33  |  ballistic 02/03/08
  181.   #179 Moshe 05:40  |  ballistic 02/03/08
  182.   BALLISTIC 08:34  |  Patrick Warner 02/03/08
  183.   #179 Moshe 16:08  |  ballistic 02/03/08
  184.   #182 Say there Patrick 16:33  |  ballistic 02/03/08
  185.   BALLISTIC 18:14  |  Patrick Warner 02/03/08
  186.   #185 Patrick-2nd post 18:49  |  ballistic 02/03/08
  187.   Hello Haaretz!! 19:08  |  ballistic 02/03/08
  188.   Patrick, asst. posts. 19:56  |  George 02/03/08
  189.   BALLISTIC #186 21:12  |  Patrick Warner 02/03/08
  190.   # 188 George 21:19  |  Patrick Warner 02/03/08
  191.   Patrick 21:31  |  ballistic 02/03/08
  192.   190 PATRICK 21:45  |  George 02/03/08
  193.   # 187 BALLISTIC NOT YET 22:48  |  Patrick Warner 02/03/08
  194.   Dror in Haifa 00:12  |  Lisa 03/03/08
  195.   #192 Patrick 00:31  |  ballistic 03/03/08
  196.   GEORGE 01:32  |  Patrick Warner 03/03/08
  197.   Patrick 04:18  |  ballistic 03/03/08
  198.   A Sparkling Collection! 06:39  |  Mikail 03/03/08
  199.   Patrick; I sent a longer answer hours 08:22  |  ballistic 03/03/08
  200.   BALLASTIC 09:52  |  Patrick Warner 03/03/08
  201.   BALLASTIC 10:10  |  Patrick Warner 03/03/08
  202.   BALLASTIC 16:04  |  Patrick Warner 03/03/08
  203.   Yes Patrick, yes!!! 22:19  |  ballistic 03/03/08
  204.   BALLASTIC 23:27  |  Patrick Warner 03/03/08
  205.   #199 Patrick 00:44  |  ballistic 04/03/08
  206.   A PROMISE 02:19  |  tip top 08/05/08
  207.   promise 02:43  |  duke 08/05/08
  208.   ignore 02:47  |  lido 08/05/08


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