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The row over Obama's stance on Israel is a dispute between Jews

Those who seek to undermine Barack Obama's credibility with his Jewish and non-Jewish voters who feel strongly about the Israeli issue, frequently mention two names: Bob Malley and Zbigniew Brzezinski. Malley was a member on former U.S. president Bill Clinton's peace team, and Brzezinski was an advisor for an earlier U.S. president, Jimmy Carter.

If these people are Obama's friends, his detractors say, then he cannot be seen as a friend of Israel. A claim which invites scrutiny.

Malley is one of the few people who believe that the Israeli-American narrative for the reasons that caused the 2000 Camp David Summit to fail does not reflect reality. Clinton and Ehud Barak both agreed that former Palestinian Authority chairman Yasser Arafat was the primary person responsible for those Camp David talks breaking down.

Most members of Clinton's team agree with that statement. Not Malley. He thinks Israel - or Barak - and the U.S. - or Clinton - bear more of the responsibility for failure than they are willing to admit.

Malley is an advisor to Obama's campaign. Which means he is asked to present his opinion on various matters. He is not "The Advisor." Many others like him are asked to contribute their opinions. Most of Obama's position statements on the Israel issue do not bear Malley's fingerprints.

Malley favors dialogue with Hamas, whereas Obama says he opposes it. Obama receives flak from people in the left wing who argue that if he values Malley's opinion, then there is reason to suspect that it could influence his policy. Those who believe this influence would harm the Israeli interest have reason to be concerned about the consultations with Malley.

Those concerns are legitimate, but there were those who have gone beyond reasonable and legitimate discourse. They attributed dark motives to Malley, and they tried to dig up dirt on him. Malley's former associates from Clinton's peace team didn't like that.

In a joint statement that these associates distributed among circles that deal with the Middle East, they wrote that although they had differences of opinion with Malley - which is an understatement - they found some of what had been written about him to be a "vicious" attack on his character.

The statement was signed by the who's who of Israel-U.S. relations in the 1990s: former ambassadors Martin Indyk and Daniel C. Kurtzer, special envoy Dennis Ross, peace team member Aaron David Miller and former national security advisor Sandy Berger. It's no coincidence that they are all Jewish. This specific showdon over Obama's candidacy is a dispute between Jews.

As for Brzezinski, Obama's circle is saying he does not advise the candidate about Israel-related issues. But Brzezinski could not have placed such a restriction on himself. A few months ago, he associated himself with a group that is calling for dialogue with Hamas.

Even if he's no big expert of the Middle East, Brzezinski served as Jimmy Carter's advisor. He is suspected of fostering a chilly attitude toward Israel since his days with Carter, as all of the former president's advisors.

Obama's detractors were only too happy to find an article in the New York Sun recently which said Brzezinski went to visit Damascus to head a delegation from the RAND Corporation. The timing of the publication was somewhat embarrassing, as it coincided with the news of the assassination of Imad Mughniyah in Damascus.

But the people who informed the paper of the trip forgot to mention just one small detail: Brzezinski was scheduled to visit Israel, too, and not only Damascus.

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  •   1.   Why I wont vote for Obama 13:12  |  Sidney 17/02/08
      2.   American Jews should WAKE UP! 13:42  |  Nechama 17/02/08
      3.   No to Obama, YES to McCain!!! 14:51  |  Isac 17/02/08
      4.   I will vote for Obama happily. 15:00  |  Aaron 17/02/08
      5.   obama 15:06  |  michel 17/02/08
      6.   Why Obama when Hillary and McCain a good friend. 15:08  |  r 17/02/08
      7.   Obama will be like Bush 15:12  |  Brod 17/02/08
      8.   OBAMA WILL BRING DOWN THE EMPIRE...NO WONDER THE LEFT-WING 15:22  |  OLMERT=CRIMINAL 17/02/08
      9.   McCain the only one with the guts to take out iran lunatics 15:23  |  dan 17/02/08
      10.   My Goodness 15:27  |  Angel 17/02/08
      11.   #4 Aaron. Do you care about the Jews at all? 15:40  |  Steven 17/02/08
      12.   Jews for Obama 15:43  |  G 17/02/08
      13.   On the surface Obama seems trustworthy but like Livni 15:45  |  Avi 17/02/08
      14.   OBAMA means the end for the WHITE HOUSE 15:46  |  ottomatik 17/02/08
      15.   I`m not voting for obama 15:52  |  Susam 17/02/08
      16.   Obama`s spiritual advisor: Rev. Jeremiah Wright 15:56  |  Avi 17/02/08
      17.   More on Jeremiah Write (Obama`s spiritual advisor) 16:18  |  Avi 17/02/08
      18.   To jews and Israels. This election is about USA not Israell 16:20  |  John 17/02/08
      19.   When will Obama clarify where he stands? 16:25  |  Avi 17/02/08
      20.   obama 16:38  |  Sanford Braun 17/02/08
      21.   John: Why do you visit Haaretz then? 16:45  |  Avi 17/02/08
      22.   Obama`s only appeal is his skin color 16:52  |  Rachel 17/02/08
      23.   Angel 16:55  |  Sanford Braun 17/02/08
      24.   Having done a bit of research on the topic Obama/Israel....... 16:58  |  Swiss (Dino) 17/02/08
      25.   18 To John the "fool." Precisely because this election is about 17:04  |  Pssd off American. 17/02/08
      26.   obama spells the end of Israel 17:29  |  assud 17/02/08
      27.   john & angel - learn u.s. politics 101 first, post here second 17:39  |  Michelle 17/02/08
      28.   OBAMA AND OLMERT ARE THREAT TO ISRAEL 17:41  |  RO 17/02/08
      29.   vote 4 Hillary or vote 4 cancer///republicans = pollution+ 17:42  |  Michelle 17/02/08
      30.   Obama for President 18:01  |  David Kass 17/02/08
      31.   Pre-Judgments and Biases 18:08  |  Darren 17/02/08
      32.   The Fact is 18:09  |  Danite 17/02/08
      33.   Obama is our next Pres despite all the racists 18:11  |  MLK 17/02/08
      34.   #29 Michelle/cancer 18:30  |  Rachel Cohen 17/02/08
      35.   Pssd Off American 18:38  |  Marcos 17/02/08
      36.   re #4 "I will vote for Obama happily" 18:40  |  Colin Wright 17/02/08
      37.   #17 Avi--nobody cares who supports Obama! 18:41  |  ballistic 17/02/08
      38.   I hope his policy will be rooted in justice for everybody 18:49  |  ballistic 17/02/08
      39.   Hi MLK,Obama has two chances,slim & none. 18:52  |  bill gordon 17/02/08
      40.   Bias for Israel is strategically wrong. 18:54  |  Howard 17/02/08
      41.   #36 Colin--democracy is wonderful isn`t it? 19:02  |  ballistic 17/02/08
      42.   Ballistic who is your candidate? Osama? 19:03  |  fiona 17/02/08
      43.   Hey MLK - McCain wi kick his butt! 19:03  |  B`Galil 17/02/08
      44.   Who is Obama? 19:05  |  Denton 17/02/08
      45.   #39 Bill 19:06  |  ballistic 17/02/08
      46.   Stanford Braun 19:16  |  Angel 17/02/08
      47.   #26 Assud 19:17  |  ballistic 17/02/08
      48.   Michelle 19:21  |  Angel 17/02/08
      49.   Obama,Clinton,Brzenski,Carter 19:23  |  Connie 17/02/08
      50.   #20 Say Mr. Braun 19:25  |  ballistic 17/02/08
      51.   # 2 Nechama 19:30  |  Mat 17/02/08
      52.   I LIKE THIS "MORGAN FREEMAN" OF DEEP IMPACT 19:30  |  indrajaya 17/02/08
      53.   angel & rachel 19:39  |  michelle 17/02/08
      54.   Rob Malley is Even worse than imagined 19:46  |  Fred Bracht 17/02/08
      55.   Haaretz`s brainy `scrutinies`. 19:47  |  charles martel 17/02/08
      56.   Don`t Worry About Obama 20:05  |  Yosemite 17/02/08
      57.   Obama is pro-Israel 20:10  |  Gabriel 17/02/08
      58.   Disputes between Jews out in public not good 20:18  |  David Hoffman 17/02/08
      59.   #54 A Truly Pathetic Attempt!!! 20:40  |  David 17/02/08
      60.   Brezinsli is a raving antisemite and Israel hater 20:42  |  Liliane 17/02/08
      61.   Obama will remember those who launch negative attacks on him 20:49  |  Pablo B 17/02/08
      62.   ISRAEL ANOTHER WORD FOR JEW 21:09  |  TOBIA 17/02/08
      63.   jews are welcome to leave 21:13  |  billy jack 17/02/08
      64.   MLK ARE YOU SAYING 21:21  |  TOBIA 17/02/08
      65.   BALLISTIC YOU HAVE BIG PROBLEM 21:36  |  TOBIA 17/02/08
      66.   Let us cancell US elections, and have them in Israel 21:38  |  El-Birawi 17/02/08
      67.   re nechama#2 21:43  |  billy jack 17/02/08
      68.   obama and israel 21:44  |  harry f a kahn 17/02/08
      69.   billyjack 21:55  |  another billyjack 17/02/08
      70.   Liliane # 60 21:58  |  Jill 17/02/08
      71.   ballistic: is excatly what you are - you dont know me from beans 22:09  |  Avi 17/02/08
      72.   ballistic: is exactly what you are - you dont know me from beans 22:12  |  Avi 17/02/08
      73.   THE USI? 22:16  |  ISHMAEL ISHMAEL 17/02/08
      74.   Author Doesn`t Read News 22:19  |  Harold 17/02/08
      75.   OBAMA 22:25  |  JOJO (USA) 17/02/08
      76.   Billyjack is for Obama? And flying Confederate flag? 22:31  |  fiona 17/02/08
      77.   OBAMAII 22:33  |  JOJO (USA) 17/02/08
      78.   EL_BRAWL WHO ARE CITIZENS 22:45  |  TOBIA 17/02/08
      79.   Why get so excited, its only the Primaries..11 23:02  |  Stephen. 17/02/08
      80.   A vote for Obama=McCain for president 23:03  |  Gregor 17/02/08
      81.   re: billy jack 23:05  |  Efox 17/02/08
      82.   BILLY JACK #^63 23:06  |  TOBIA 17/02/08
      83.   oh rosner reads, harold. he`s just afraid. 23:14  |  Michelle 17/02/08
      84.   Fiona 23:28  |  Howdy 17/02/08
      85.   exactly, gregor. a vote fore obama is a vote for mccain. 23:33  |  michelle 17/02/08
      86.   Tobia !! # 82 23:34  |  Billy Joe 17/02/08
      87.   billy jackASSES dimlights 23:39  |  charles martel 17/02/08
      88.   Why Jews hate Obama 23:47  |  JR 17/02/08
      89.   Who knows, Obama story may shortly be sidelined 23:47  |  Barry K 17/02/08
      90.   Obama`s interesting advisors 23:52  |  Yakov 17/02/08
      91.   US Jews Should Vote For What is Best for America, Not Israel 23:59  |  Proud American Jew 17/02/08
      92.   Brezhinski Malley Susan Rice Dennis Kucinheh 23:59  |  Shalom Freedman 17/02/08
      93.   billy jack 00:05  |  sweis Melbourne 18/02/08
      94.   Be strong Obama 00:07  |  Jeremiah 18/02/08
      95.   81 fox in New Mexico 00:11  |  Oscar 18/02/08
      96.   Michelle, 85 00:14  |  David 18/02/08
      97.   Obama can help Isarel to a just peace 00:16  |  Joe W 18/02/08
      98.   Brod and delusions 00:26  |  Truths 18/02/08
      99.   PSS of American, USA paid for crimes 00:30  |  Truth 18/02/08
      100.   Wieseltier on Obama: Contentless 00:44  |  hg 18/02/08
      101.   Obama, as Chance the Gardener 00:45  |  FOX 18/02/08
      102.   #19 John --Washington - Let me remind you 00:50  |  * BEN JABO 18/02/08
      103.   Babbling Ballistic 00:51  |  FOX 18/02/08
      104.   I will vote for Obama 00:51  |  Josh 18/02/08
      105.   Obama is know by his associates and advisors 00:54  |  * BEN JABO 18/02/08
      106.   This is not our problem 00:54  |  Ofer Maimon 18/02/08
      107.   Avi, my friend and Ballisty 00:56  |  FOX 18/02/08
      108.   #52 indrajay - Morgan Freeman is like you, an actor 00:57  |  * BEN JABO 18/02/08
      109.   Michelle in jerusalem? 01:12  |  FOX 18/02/08
      110.   Under the table... 01:17  |  Webster 18/02/08
      111.   #84 Howdy 01:17  |  fiona 18/02/08
      112.   No matter, a vote for Clinton is also a vote for McCain. 01:30  |  Virginia 18/02/08
      113.   El-Birawi...you are on to something here... 01:34  |  Ofer Maimon 18/02/08
      114.   Hill or Cain NO BO 01:35  |  PK 18/02/08
      115.   THIS WHAT I AM AFRAID OF 01:46  |  TOBIA 18/02/08
      116.   why this Jew is voting for Obama 02:26  |  Michael 18/02/08
      117.   Is Obama really a christian or Islamic 02:32  |  Kyle 18/02/08
      118.   Farrakhan? 02:37  |  Elimelech 18/02/08
      119.   #80 Gregor in Canada 02:59  |  ballistic 18/02/08
      120.   brzezinski 03:01  |  blue 18/02/08
      121.   senator obama 03:03  |  blue 18/02/08
      122.   brezinski 03:30  |  jack 18/02/08
      123.   Obama and what he will do re: Iran 03:35  |  Darth Zaider (Ed) 18/02/08
      124.   Obamas own words 03:37  |  wil moon 18/02/08
      125.   Obama deserves the scrutiny..... 03:47  |  Dave from Chicago 18/02/08
      126.   Liberal American Jews don`t care about Israel... 04:28  |  Maria 18/02/08
      127.   Obama in this forum is not winning.... 04:34  |  Maria 18/02/08
      128.   Gabriel....He`s still campaigning that`s why 04:41  |  Maria 18/02/08
      129.   Michael....what did he mean by change? 04:45  |  Maria 18/02/08
      130.   Bransi 06:48  |  Richie 18/02/08
      131.   Check Obama.com on Israel 06:54  |  Alisa Golan 18/02/08
      132.   # 87, Kyle 06:57  |  Janet 18/02/08
      133.   LOOK AT ALL YOU ZIONISTS, HAHAHAHA 07:01  |  VIPER 18/02/08
      134.   OBAMA WILL MAKE A GOOD PRESIDENT 07:12  |  Muhammud al-Swain 18/02/08
      135.   # 80, GREGOR (HILLARY WOULD BE AN EASY TARGET) 07:21  |  indrajaya 18/02/08
      136.   Sworn inn,to Maria on #95 07:28  |  Shmuelshachor 18/02/08
      137.   Hysterical 07:33  |  Angel 18/02/08
      138.   Malley, a SCREAMING APPEASER,v often took the pro terrorist line 07:39  |  O.R. R.N. 18/02/08
      139.   ALL THE CANDIDATES REPRESENT CHANGE 07:46  |  US Citizen 18/02/08
      140.   @24, swiss, if you are pro israeli what about hitler???? 09:36  |  vladimir 18/02/08
      141.   #92 Yes Maria, charity does start at home!! 09:52  |  ballistic 18/02/08
      142.   #93 Oh Maria, really!! 09:56  |  ballistic 18/02/08
      143.   #87 Kyle, do you believe Christians don`t lie? 09:58  |  ballistic 18/02/08
      144.   @12, you mean nazi jews for obama?????? 10:01  |  vladimir 18/02/08
      145.   #71 Avi, I thought I answered you, but 10:04  |  ballistic 18/02/08
      146.   #95 Maria, that is a lie! 10:07  |  ballistic 18/02/08
      147.   John wake up 10:09  |  Piotr 18/02/08
      148.   @63, billi jack i will happily assasinate you and your family 10:13  |  vladimir 18/02/08
      149.   Enough of Anti-Obama scare tactics 10:22  |  Noah 18/02/08
      150.   ballistic, she`s right on 1 thing - obama is not winning HERE 10:25  |  Michelle 18/02/08
      151.   #116 Michael - CA Some Jews voted for Hitler 12:11  |  * BEN JABO 18/02/08
      152.   obama`s advisors and hamas 12:43  |  elliot 18/02/08
      153.   elliott, curious as to what you have to say -- 13:16  |  Michelle 18/02/08
      154.   #123 Darth 15:16  |  ballistic 18/02/08
      155.   #88 Good post JR!! 15:25  |  ballistic 18/02/08
      156.   Obama = Carter 15:27  |  PJ 18/02/08
      157.   #hi Michelle 15:54  |  ballistic 18/02/08
      158.   !51 Hey Ben Jabo--don`t worry; you said Obama 16:03  |  ballistic 18/02/08
      159.   SAy PJ--it`s all about Iran`s oil, isn`t it? 16:07  |  ballistic 18/02/08
      160.   #136 Say Shmuelshachor 16:12  |  ballistic 18/02/08
      161.   #148 Vladimir 16:13  |  ballistic 18/02/08
      162.   #118 - Elimelech 17:55  |  MichaelF 18/02/08
      163.   #9 - dan 18:02  |  MichaelF 18/02/08
      164.   The Real Problem with Obama is. . . . 18:04  |  MichaelF 18/02/08
      165.   Obama is no friend to America or Israel!! 18:53  |  Amy 18/02/08
      166.   #162 Elimelech 20:47  |  ballistic 18/02/08
      167.   #165 Amy 20:52  |  ballistic 18/02/08
      168.   Ballistic....I just don`t get it...why do Americans like you... 20:56  |  Maria 18/02/08
      169.   To all Obama`s Supporters 21:00  |  Maria 18/02/08
      170.   Ballistic....God`s standard is a foolish idea to you 21:04  |  Maria 18/02/08
      171.   #107 Say Fox, I love you too!!! 21:19  |  ballistic 18/02/08
      172.   Ballistic...there`s a rumor also that he didn`t want 21:24  |  Maria 18/02/08
      173.   Al-Swain....If Obama is really a Christian and knows his Bible... 21:27  |  Maria 18/02/08
      174.   #103 Golly Fox; I didn`t see your post until now. 22:01  |  ballistic 18/02/08
      175.   BTW Fox; I don`t hail from Vegas! 22:02  |  ballistic 18/02/08
      176.   Report on Obama suppressed by Media 22:37  |  Brod 18/02/08
      177.   Obama would make Jimmy Carter look great 00:26  |  Mike 19/02/08
      178.   The people who are voting for Obama are... 01:03  |  Maria 19/02/08
      179.   Are you young mother living in the States? 01:16  |  Maria 19/02/08
      180.   Stop the Israeli `slow genocide` of the Palestinians 01:27  |  greg 19/02/08
      181.   Obama hoo ish chacham v`tzadik 02:37  |  Lisa 19/02/08
      182.   greg#172 03:11  |  Brod 19/02/08
      183.   I Don`t Know What This Row Is All About 03:22  |  Yosemite 19/02/08
      184.   #181 Lisa Zeh Lo Nachon 06:26  |  * BEN JABO 19/02/08
      185.   Jews voting for Obama 07:16  |  Sam 19/02/08
      186.   #168 Dearest Maria 07:55  |  ballistic 19/02/08
      187.   #173 Maria, Maria, Maria 08:05  |  ballistic 19/02/08
      188.   #!70 Maria 08:21  |  ballistic 19/02/08
      189.   #176 Brod; the media doesn`t ignore 08:23  |  ballistic 19/02/08
      190.   #178 Maria 08:26  |  ballistic 19/02/08
      191.   #172 Maria, why do you believe rumors? 08:31  |  ballistic 19/02/08
      192.   #184 But, but, say Ben Jabo 08:44  |  ballistic 19/02/08
      193.   Whining 17:01  |  David Bennison 19/02/08
      194.   Ballistic, when black is ugly 17:07  |  FOX 19/02/08
      195.   #194 Kakur over there in Israel 19:29  |  ballistic 19/02/08
      196.   #194 Kakur con`t 19:35  |  ballistic 19/02/08
      197.   Camp David 20:11  |  nfa 19/02/08
      198.   Ballistic, you are dull 20:52  |  FOX 19/02/08
      199.   # 192 Hey ballistic.re:*BEN JABO.You do Not Understand Hebrew!. 03:05  |  JOSH 20/02/08
      200.   PUT A BOWTIE ON OBAMA AND PRESTO ANOTHER 03:15  |  Petra 20/02/08
      201.   Barak Hussein Obama 05:21  |  Nechama 20/02/08
      202.   David Kass 05:35  |  David M 20/02/08
      203.   charles mantel 05:46  |  Winner 20/02/08
      204.   Malley and Zbig; Abunima and Khalidi 05:52  |  Howard Richman 20/02/08
      205.   vladimir 05:56  |  Boris 20/02/08
      206.   Obama 06:00  |  Nechama 20/02/08
      207.   #199 Josh - Just to let you know 06:47  |  * BEN JABO 20/02/08
      208.   #11 Steven. 07:16  |  Chet 20/02/08
      209.   A vote for Obama 08:02  |  Chet 20/02/08
      210.   A vote for Obama 08:04  |  Chet 20/02/08
      211.   #11 Steven - Do You Care About The U.S.? 09:23  |  Jeffrey 20/02/08
      212.   #200 Say Petra 09:33  |  ballistic 20/02/08
      213.   #134 -- You`ll learn how wrong you are. 09:33  |  Jeffrey 20/02/08
      214.   Say Josh/Ben Jabo 09:37  |  ballistic 20/02/08
      215.   Hey, Ben Jabo, say!!! You are a transparent liar. 09:51  |  ballistic 20/02/08
      216.   Chet and Steve!! 09:58  |  ballistic 20/02/08
      217.   Say Karkur; well thanks for the compliment! 10:03  |  ballistic 20/02/08
      218.   Oops, Karkur; my apology! Post was for FOX. 10:06  |  ballistic 20/02/08
      219.   Ballistic, Barrack means Lightening in both... 11:18  |  FOX 20/02/08
      220.   So funny to see Jews scared here :))) 14:50  |  The Russian 20/02/08
      221.   Ballistic 15:30  |  Chet 20/02/08
      222.   Steven in the US 16:07  |  Craig 20/02/08
      223.   Steven # 11 16:10  |  Cheryl 20/02/08
      224.   #212 SAy Ball less tic 17:07  |  Petra 20/02/08
      225.   To Russian 18:24  |  PS 20/02/08
      226.   American jews should vote based on who is good for USA 19:06  |  omolll 20/02/08
      227.   #224 Petra 19:27  |  ballistic 20/02/08
      228.   "Much ado about nothing" 19:35  |  a wandering Jew 20/02/08
      229.   Petra and Ballistic -- You`re Peas In a Pod 19:58  |  Jeffrey 20/02/08
      230.   You must watch Obama carefully 20:16  |  Gayle 20/02/08
      231.   Do you want to vote for Obama? 20:26  |  Shalom - U.S.A. 20/02/08
      232.   #229 Jeffrey 20:32  |  ballistic 20/02/08
      233.   No, 230 Gayle 21:01  |  a wandering Jew 20/02/08
      234.   The anti-Obama smears having NOTHING to do with Israel`s security 21:17  |  Richter 20/02/08
      235.   before watching Sens. Obama, Clinton, and McCain, watch this .... 22:26  |  avigdor 20/02/08
      236.   # 229 Jeffrey.Sorry not Petra,but Ballistic Yes! 22:32  |  Fed-Up 20/02/08
      237.   #234 Richter - Brooklyn 23:26  |  * BEN JABO 20/02/08
      238.   #235 Say, Ben Jabo--Richter is right on---you 00:04  |  ballistic 21/02/08
      239.   Obama and Israel 00:20  |  Al Ramy 21/02/08
      240.   The row over Obama`s stance on Israel is a dispute between Jews 00:42  |  A Levy 21/02/08
      241.   #236 A. Levy 02:54  |  * BEN JABO 21/02/08
      242.   #234-2 Richter - Brooklyn 03:37  |  * BEN JABO 21/02/08
      243.   I will vote for Obama, because I am voting for the USA! 05:07  |  sal-usa 21/02/08
      244.   BILLY JACK 06:13  |  TOBIA 21/02/08
      245.   Obama will not stand with Israel in a crisis 09:23  |  Tobie 21/02/08
      246.   Democratic voters here R Dumb 10:54  |  FOX 21/02/08
      247.   obama 10:57  |  sdc 21/02/08
      248.   Why I will vote for Obama 17:37  |  hulkhogan 21/02/08
      249.   Hey Hulk, Like I said you dumb 19:17  |  FOX 21/02/08
      250.   Karkur 21:32  |  disgusted american 21/02/08
      251.   God meets clinton 23:10  |  Avram 21/02/08
      252.   #242 Ben Jabo 23:27  |  disgusted american 21/02/08
      253.   #234-3 Richter - Brooklyn 23:54  |  * BEN JABO 21/02/08
      254.   #252 Digusted & Uninformed American 00:19  |  * BEN JABO 22/02/08
      255.   the real issue with Obama 00:54  |  David Hoffman 22/02/08
      256.   Ben Jabo--you are apparently 00:56  |  disgusted american 22/02/08
      257.   2nd TRY -Poor Ole Ballistic - Truth Hurts and she can`t take it 02:41  |  * BEN JABO 22/02/08
      258.   Ballistic - Truth is unknown to her- Another Example 02:54  |  * BEN JABO 22/02/08
      259.   Ballistic Encouraged Big Bad John 04:57  |  * BEN JABO 22/02/08
      260.   #256 american I am disgusted with you 05:01  |  * BEN JABO 22/02/08
      261.   #253 Ben Jabo 07:24  |  Richter 22/02/08
      262.   Close your eyes, hold your nose, mark your ballot 10:56  |  ghostoflutherblisset 22/02/08
      263.   #261 Richter - Easy question, you refused to answer 16:25  |  * BEN JABO 22/02/08
      264.   #258 Ben Jabo 18:15  |  disgusted american 22/02/08
      265.   #258 Poor Ben Jabo 18:22  |  disgusted american 22/02/08
      266.   #264 - Disgusted American - no wonder 21:02  |  * BEN JABO 22/02/08
      267.   #265 Disgusted American you should be 21:03  |  * BEN JABO 22/02/08
      268.   Ben Jabo---you are lost, old buddy! 22:13  |  disgusted american 22/02/08
      269.   So, Ben Jabo, like your good friend Ahmadinejad... 22:18  |  Richter 22/02/08
      270.   Disgusting American #250 22:35  |  FOX 22/02/08
      271.   Obama fights like a girl 22:42  |  FOX 22/02/08
      272.   @267 Ben Jabo 23:27  |  disgusted american 22/02/08
      273.   #269 2nd TRY Richter 06:38  |  * BEN JABO 23/02/08
      274.   Ben Jabo, I will not submit to your Nazi style Jew test 09:28  |  Richter 23/02/08
      275.   #274 Richter - You are a fraud 13:54  |  * BEN JABO 23/02/08
      276.   #259 Say Ben Jabo, I don`t see any post 21:56  |  ballistic 23/02/08
      277.   #274 Richter 00:49  |  ballistic 24/02/08
      278.   #271 Fox 00:58  |  ballistic 24/02/08
      279.   #266 B Jabber, you are full of it! 01:02  |  ballistic 24/02/08
      280.   #279 2nd TRY - Ballistic - first you must be trained 00:49  |  * BEN JABO 25/02/08
      281.   #280 Ben Jabo, first you must take your meds! 17:43  |  ballistic 25/02/08
      282.   Consequences for Bush/USA...and Obama 21:14  |  Woody 26/02/08
      283.   #281-2 Ballistic - In case you missed it 03:00  |  * BEN JABO 27/02/08
      284.   What is a "parashah"?? 05:31  |  Silvienne 27/02/08
      285.   #45, ballistic... 05:40  |  Silvienne 27/02/08
      286.   #65, TOBIA... 05:43  |  Silvienne 27/02/08
      287.   jews 01:01  |  Gabriel 28/02/08
      288.   #286 Silvienne - Six Israeli`s dancing?? 07:21  |  * BEN JABO 28/02/08
      289.   #287, Ben Jabo... 08:50  |  Silvienne 28/02/08
      290.   #289 Silvienne - 2nd try 20:58  |  ballistic 28/02/08
      291.   #289 Silvienne - You can`t quote what you haven`t seen 01:32  |  * BEN JABO 29/02/08
      292.   #290, Ben Jabo...well, I should`ve known it... 08:01  |  Silvienne 29/02/08
      293.   #290 Silvienne re Ben Jabber`s post 08:21  |  ballistic 29/02/08
      294.   #290, Ben Jabo & #291, ballistic... 16:23  |  Silvienne 29/02/08
      295.   #292 Silvienne - Endless conspiracy theories, no facts 01:42  |  * BEN JABO 01/03/08
      296.   #292-2 Silvienne - I went to the link you gave 01:51  |  * BEN JABO 01/03/08
      297.   Silvienne - Just to let you know 03:12  |  * BEN JABO 01/03/08
      298.   #295, #296, Ben Jabo... 08:04  |  Silvienne 01/03/08
      299.   #297, Ben Jabo... 08:05  |  Silvienne 01/03/08
      300.   #298 Silvienne - Just a report, 2nd hand news 03:43  |  * BEN JABO 02/03/08
      301.   #298 & 299 2ND TRY Silvienne 03:45  |  * BEN JABO 02/03/08
      302.   obama spelled backwards reads doom 16:22  |  david 13/03/08
      303.   among jews; not between 00:08  |  Morris 18/03/08
      304.   Jewish values = Republican values 00:48  |  MOYSH 18/03/08
      305.   Brzezinski - a foreign policy disaster. 04:01  |  Rob 11/04/08
      306.   obama and jewish vote 18:20  |  issac James 20/01/09


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