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Posted: September 25, 2007

ANALYSIS: The clear loser from Ahmadinejad's visit is Israel

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's visit to Columbia University in New York on Monday resulted in one clear loser: Israel.

In his speech, Ahmadinejad took aim at Israel. If he managed to convince one person of his views on Israel and Zionism, then he has already gained. If he managed to persuade 50, then he has gained even more.

For months, Israel worked fervently to prevent what happened on the podium Monday. For the duration of his speech, Ahmadinejad produced a televised illusion: It is not Iran versus the world, but Iran versus Israel.

If he manages to convince enough people of this, the mirage could become reality and Israel would be isolated, and that is exactly what Ahmadinejad is trying to accomplish.

The visiting Iranian even berated his listeners for condemning him before they had given him a chance to speak. He patiently explained that their behavior was impolite. He went on to offer a thorough explanation of his Holocaust denial. All he wanted was to promote research in the field, he said. How could an enlightened university that supports freedom of expression oppose that?

The protesters outside only served to reinforce his claims, as many were Jews wearing skullcaps who carried signs protesting his Holocaust denial and calls to wipe Israel off the map. To many, this serves as further proof that Iran is only a problem for Israel, or at most for the Jews.

Ahmadinejad aimed precisely for that. "It's the Israelis, stupid" was his primary message. Forget about the "Palestinian problem," Ahmadinejad was telling his listeners. "Instead, we need to solve the Israeli problem - and finally bring peace to the Middle East." While he did not explicitly reiterate his calls for Israel's destruction, in practice, the message could not have been clearer.

The pro-Israel camp consoled itself with the knowledge that those who are familiar with the regional complexities, and with Tehran's antics, will surely realize the absurdity of Ahmadinejad's proposal.

But the average American is not familiar with the regional complexities. He is tired of the region's fighting. To him, Ahmadinejad's idea may sound tempting.

  1.   i don`t agree 01:08  |  Edith 25/09/07
  2.   the loser 01:11  |  Shmuelshachor 25/09/07
  3.   Wrong. The man sounded like the imbecile he really is... 01:11  |  common sense 25/09/07
  4.   Shmuel, you are dead wrong 01:18  |  michael 25/09/07
  5.   You are definitly sick Mr Rosner 01:21  |  Afflalo 25/09/07
  6.   Lets hope ppl wont be that gullible or ignorant 01:37  |  Dakkar 25/09/07
  7.   Average American 01:43  |  Mike 25/09/07
  8.   You`re way off Rosner 01:53  |  Frack off 25/09/07
  9.   further info is needed, otherwise this article is useless 01:56  |  Scot 25/09/07
  10.   ACHMINDEAJEAD speaks 01:57  |  Zyskandar A Jaimot 25/09/07
  11.   Mr.A is quite right,all historical events should be constantly 02:04  |  lakshmi 25/09/07
  12.   Shmuel Rosner is 100% Wrong 02:06  |  Shepherd 25/09/07
  13.   The clear loser was Amadinhejad 02:16  |  Murray of Montreal 25/09/07
  14.   buffoon 02:23  |  David 25/09/07
  15.   Israel always the victim 02:27  |  Ted Duncan 25/09/07
  16.   IF ONLY THE ZION.LOSERS COULD MENTION "GOD GAVE US THIS LAND." 02:28  |  VOICE of MOSHIACH))) 25/09/07
  17.   THE LAND GIVEN TO ISRAEL WAY BEFORE HOLOCAUST. SQUATTERS OUT! 02:32  |  VOICE of MOSHIACH))) 25/09/07
  18.   HANNAH. You are suffering a lot because of your stupidly 02:32  |  e.m 25/09/07
  19.   Part 2.HANNAH.The Zionism?s that served to the humanity 02:35  |  e.m 25/09/07
  20.   Mmmm? Er... Rosner! Let`s Just Say Vote For McCain! 02:40  |  Yosemite 25/09/07
  21.   Ahmadinajad is Good..... 02:41  |  Dovy 25/09/07
  22.   Mr A`s circus good for Israel 02:42  |  StevieT 25/09/07
  23.   Misconstruing free speech 02:52  |  Nathaniel 25/09/07
  24.   Misconstruing free speech 02:52  |  Nathaniel 25/09/07
  25.   My Sympathies Go Out To The Israeli People 03:00  |  Yosemite 25/09/07
  26.   Rosner You are 100% Wrong 03:01  |  Jane 25/09/07
  27.   islam 03:01  |  g 25/09/07
  28.   Rosner`s oversimplification 03:07  |  Michael 25/09/07
  29.   Changing minds, winning hearts by Ahmadinejad 03:12  |  Ed 25/09/07
  30.   Ahmadinejad is a MORON 03:17  |  J. Johnson 25/09/07
  31.   I was for letting him talk 03:18  |  Ron 25/09/07
  32.   Clear Lose 03:24  |  Dan Kottler 25/09/07
  33.   Speech 03:25  |  Philippe 25/09/07
  34.   Nice try.... 03:27  |  David James Vickery 25/09/07
  35.   Elegant, intelligent Ahmadinejad meets up with brutes 03:33  |  Hannah 25/09/07
  36.   Abadabadinajabber 03:36  |  Fred Harwell 25/09/07
  37.   I WAS THERE 03:37  |  New Yorker 25/09/07
  38.   Ahmadinejad`s speech 03:38  |  Carl Genberg 25/09/07
  39.   IT IS More Iran Against Israel...Than Iran Against The World. 03:38  |  Proud Pal Defender 25/09/07
  40.   Ahmadinejad is the loser 03:41  |  Alan 25/09/07
  41.   Ahmadinejad`s visit 03:44  |  Roger 25/09/07
  42.   CORRECTION: IT IS More Iran Against Israel... 03:44  |  Proud Pal Defender 25/09/07
  43.   HANNAH. You are suffering a lot because of your stupidly 03:44  |  e.m 25/09/07
  44.   Part 2.HANNAH.The Zionism?s who served to humanity 03:45  |  e.m 25/09/07
  45.   Totally Disagree 03:47  |  SA 25/09/07
  46.   Persuade? 03:49  |  Mike 25/09/07
  47.   Give me a break - no one takes him seriously 03:51  |  Rick 25/09/07
  48.   The only loser here is Ahmadinejad! 04:00  |  Al 25/09/07
  49.   To g 04:01  |  Neil 25/09/07
  50.   Albert Einstein 04:02  |  Harold 25/09/07
  51.   VOICE OF MOSHIACH IS A TOTAL LOSER 04:03  |  VOICE OF MY NUTS 25/09/07
  52.   What Twaddle 04:04  |  Mark Lincoln 25/09/07
  53.   Israel`s/Jews` QUASHING OF MODERATE VOICES In The U.S. 04:04  |  Proud Pal Defender 25/09/07
  54.   Holocaust denial 04:13  |  Neil 25/09/07
  55.   I`ve read stupid articles but this one deserves the Nobel Prize. 04:19  |  Mr. Ami Goldman 25/09/07
  56.   What was up with Bollinger? 04:21  |  Harold 25/09/07
  57.   To e.m # 11 04:25  |  Neil 25/09/07
  58.   Most Americans Understand He Is Killing US Soldiers in Iraq 04:26  |  Yoram 25/09/07
  59.   Shmuel Rosner is simply a PARANOID JEW... its laughable 04:32  |  amir 25/09/07
  60.   Um Shmuel, did you see the same speech? 04:34  |  Jacob Blues 25/09/07
  61.   Wrong Yet Gain, Al Jaaretz 04:41  |  Erik 25/09/07
  62.   Leftist Muslim alliance will cause global atomic war 04:42  |  bernard ross 25/09/07
  63.   murray of montreal 04:42  |  j 25/09/07
  64.   AmadManinJihad is President of IRant 04:44  |  Keith 25/09/07
  65.   In Iran we do not have Homosexuals 04:45  |  Realist 25/09/07
  66.   One for America 04:51  |  Ron 25/09/07
  67.   don`t worry Israel, America is behind You ;- ) 04:54  |  David P 25/09/07
  68.   He Came Off As Insane Not Credible 05:08  |  Rashi 25/09/07
  69.   #58 j 05:11  |  * BEN JABO 25/09/07
  70.   55Jacob Blues&58 J,the reference to gays also,I believe, 05:13  |  lakshmi 25/09/07
  71.   Ahmadinejad is not denying the Holocaust 05:13  |  Harold 25/09/07
  72.   NOBODY REALLY CARES and that`s the problem 05:20  |  Arik Silverman 25/09/07
  73.   Don`t be such an Israeli pessimist 05:23  |  David 25/09/07
  74.   LOL 05:25  |  Danite 25/09/07
  75.   Killing American soldiers in Iraq 05:29  |  Harold 25/09/07
  76.   Holocaust Denial - Edward Said 05:32  |  john 25/09/07
  77.   16&17: Interested Bystander 05:39  |  Hannah 25/09/07
  78.   Bush Comparison 05:42  |  Marc 25/09/07
  79.   Why not answer Ahmadinejad`s points? 05:46  |  Jon 25/09/07
  80.   We are not his audience 05:47  |  Gordon 25/09/07
  81.   What is all this about? 05:51  |  Andre 25/09/07
  82.   24,jane 05:52  |  Interested Bystander 25/09/07
  83.   50, mark lincoln 05:57  |  Interested Bystander 25/09/07
  84.   Edith # 1 06:01  |  Philippe 25/09/07
  85.   Mike # 7 06:04  |  Philippe 25/09/07
  86.   Al # 48 06:09  |  Philippe 25/09/07
  87.   God gave the land to abraham,isaac,and jacob. 06:13  |  maria 25/09/07
  88.   Dangerous dictator - but grain of truth 06:13  |  M 25/09/07
  89.   Ahmadinejad 06:18  |  Bretware 25/09/07
  90.   Rosner, as usual, sees the glass half empty 06:19  |  dana 25/09/07
  91.   AS opposed to virtually every other assessment... 06:22  |  Stan 25/09/07
  92.   voice of nuts.....the holy bible is quick and powerful 06:25  |  maria 25/09/07
  93.   AND THE CLEAR WINNER WOULD BE.... 06:28  |  indrajaya 25/09/07
  94.   Most American gentiles--- 06:28  |  Madrid 25/09/07
  95.   Courage man!! 06:31  |  Niva dos santos 25/09/07
  96.   neil...you don`t understand. 06:31  |  maria 25/09/07
  97.   BIG LOSER - THE LEFT 06:32  |  GZLives 25/09/07
  98.   New Yorker 06:33  |  Connie 25/09/07
  99.   a victory, not defeat 06:33  |  Larry 25/09/07
  100.   The clear loser from Ahmadinejad`s visit is Israel 06:34  |  David 25/09/07
  101.   Ted Duncan 06:37  |  Connie 25/09/07
  102.   Rosner - Quick To Draw Emotional Conclusions 06:42  |  Eli 25/09/07
  103.   And so Indie .. what conclusions can you draw 06:48  |  GZLives 25/09/07
  104.   Arik silverman 06:52  |  Connie 25/09/07
  105.   He Got Both Barrels 07:01  |  Brenda 25/09/07
  106.   # 103, GZ LIVES 07:06  |  indrajaya 25/09/07
  107.   Haaretz has passed its sell-by date with its `analyses` 07:11  |  Jake 25/09/07
  108.   37/ "New Yorker" good post! I agree 07:25  |  Kevin 25/09/07
  109.   There`s Only One way to Stop These......... 07:30  |  R 25/09/07
  110.   Ahmad at our expense.... 07:42  |  Esther 25/09/07
  111.   to olmert & campanies 07:43  |  imad 25/09/07
  112.   It`s not the messenger...... 07:44  |  Esther 25/09/07
  113.   ROSNER IS TOTALLY WRONG 07:48  |  David 25/09/07
  114.   Jews and snake-eyes 07:53  |  Mark 25/09/07
  115.   Rosner DEAD WRONG 07:53  |  B`Galil 25/09/07
  116.   "Interested Bystander" What Planet Are YOU on? 07:55  |  Daniel 25/09/07
  117.   COMPLETE OPPOSITE!!! 08:10  |  Eddie 25/09/07
  118.   Especially for Shmuel Rosner 08:18  |  Jim 25/09/07
  119.   Another Average American 08:31  |  Bill 25/09/07
  120.   There is no loser 08:32  |  MiddlStanian 25/09/07
  121.   Ahmadinejad 08:39  |  Suzy Cohen 25/09/07
  122.   # 103, GZ LIVES (2nd TRY, EDITED) 08:46  |  Indrajaya 25/09/07
  123.   Rosner put his foot in his mouth yet again 09:34  |  Joe 25/09/07
  124.   Clear Loser is Israel - but not because of Ahmadinejad 09:37  |  Steve 25/09/07
  125.   Interested bystander 09:40  |  Sarah 25/09/07
  126.   #112 about bystander 09:46  |  Sarah 25/09/07
  127.   #94, Madrid 09:48  |  Hannah 25/09/07
  128.   `reitereate` ? 09:51  |  Yair 25/09/07
  129.   Ahmadinejad is a provocator but he is a courageous man 10:13  |  Al 25/09/07
  130.   Rosner puts his foot in his mouth yet again 10:28  |  Joe 25/09/07
  131.   Israels supporters acted like losers 10:37  |  Natallie Durson 25/09/07
  132.   another lying lunatic exposed not a word about peace 10:37  |  victor hardman 25/09/07
  133.   To # 76 Holocaust Denial - Edward Said 10:39  |  Hypocrisy Monitor 25/09/07
  134.   Most posters do not understand Rosner 10:43  |  David Hoffman 25/09/07
  135.   The clear loser from Ahmadinejad`s visit is Israel - 10:44  |  S 25/09/07
  136.   Hannah lightweight 10:46  |  H 25/09/07
  137.   # 103, GZLIVES 10:48  |  indrajaya 25/09/07
  138.   Dear Mr. Ahmadinejad - from America 10:58  |  Stan Windjammer 25/09/07
  139.   Ahmadinejad 11:00  |  Joe Rosen 25/09/07
  140.   For Edith #1 anf Imad #107 11:05  |  Esther 25/09/07
  141.   A. should pick up a few conservative and evangelical votes anyway 11:14  |  Michael 25/09/07
  142.   Ahmad simply showed his true face 11:18  |  Esther 25/09/07
  143.   "will you cease this outrage at once" 11:19  |  lakshmi 25/09/07
  144.   Ahmadinejad is the loser 11:22  |  Serge 25/09/07
  145.   To Harold- on Einstein 11:22  |  Gabe 25/09/07
  146.   As most columns by Mr Rosner, a complete insult of the 11:24  |  Andreas 25/09/07
  147.   88 M,some clarifications,the Arabs in 1948 rejected the Partition 11:25  |  lakshmi 25/09/07
  148.   Bollinger`s Rudeness 11:27  |  Walid 25/09/07
  149.   Ranting lunatic ? 11:28  |  SAM 25/09/07
  150.   Really? The clear loser from Ahmadinejad`s visit is Israel? 11:31  |  S 25/09/07
  151.   MR. Rosner clueless and paranoid 11:31  |  DAVID HOWARD 25/09/07
  152.   Iran rocks 11:34  |  Stan Windjammer 25/09/07
  153.   Excellent post, David # 73; says it all 11:38  |  Uri 25/09/07
  154.   Rosner is RIGHT 11:38  |  RobertK 25/09/07
  155.   How can Rosner be so wrong? 11:40  |  Sidney 25/09/07
  156.   WHY DID AHMADINEJAD WON? 11:43  |  TrippleJump 25/09/07
  157.   Invalid analysis 11:45  |  Isaac 25/09/07
  158.   Ahmadinejad on Palestine 11:46  |  Chris 25/09/07
  159.   You have a Mis Understanding 11:46  |  The Director 25/09/07
  160.   Rosner does Israel a disservice 11:48  |  Shalom Freedman 25/09/07
  161.   #121, Esther, excellent post 11:57  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 25/09/07
  162.   Who says Irans Prez evil? 11:58  |  Clint 25/09/07
  163.   # 118 Esther 12:03  |  Edith 25/09/07
  164.   #128 sam dwells in cloud cuckoo land 12:07  |  victor hardman 25/09/07
  165.   the left got what it wanted 12:08  |  lars 25/09/07
  166.   Is there any point in leaving posts between 6.00am and 11.00am? 12:10  |  Clickfool 25/09/07
  167.   walid`s rudeness 12:11  |  peter 25/09/07
  168.   Ted Duncan/LIAR 12:11  |  Petra 25/09/07
  169.   What happened yesterday 12:12  |  Chris Linthwaite 25/09/07
  170.   Bollinger`s wasted opportunity 12:12  |  Michael 25/09/07
  171.   #dana - typical paranoic mind frame 12:18  |  Reuben 25/09/07
  172.   nada serves up another goose-egg 12:19  |  peter 25/09/07
  173.   new yorker he`s an idiot and so are you!! 12:21  |  Petra 25/09/07
  174.   The clear loser from Ahmadinejad`s visit is Israel? second try 12:26  |  S 25/09/07
  175.   Political Correctness and Ahmadinejad 12:26  |  Daybreak 25/09/07
  176.   lakshmi 12:26  |  Sarah 25/09/07
  177.   What is bad for Israel ... 12:31  |  Edith 25/09/07
  178.   16 ...17... voice of mosiach 12:33  |  ravi 25/09/07
  179.   Yitzhak 12:34  |  Jerusalem 25/09/07
  180.   58... yoram 12:36  |  ravi 25/09/07
  181.   Rosner:that what happens when one becomes a party operative. 12:41  |  17 25/09/07
  182.   67....david 12:41  |  ravi 25/09/07
  183.   Hannah # 77 12:42  |  ChanahS 25/09/07
  184.   # 35 Hannah I agree with you 12:43  |  Edith 25/09/07
  185.   117 12:46  |  Mike 25/09/07
  186.   73 david 12:46  |  ravi 25/09/07
  187.   Lakshmi - COPY PASTE, COPY PASTE 12:47  |  Gil 25/09/07
  188.   # 122 lakshmi -.the fragrant exciting and glamorous ahmedinejad" 12:48  |  17 :) 25/09/07
  189.   IT IS ISrael VS Iran 12:48  |  Jerry 25/09/07
  190.   response to Mr. Rosners article 12:49  |  norman gensolin 25/09/07
  191.   CONNIE, BRAVO BABE!!!!!!! AND AMEN 12:50  |  Petra 25/09/07
  192.   The Looser: Israel PR 12:53  |  Buzaglow 25/09/07
  193.   mr.Ahmedinajad makes some good points 12:53  |  dani.a 25/09/07
  194.   Typical Haaretz inaccuracies. That is not Bollinger... 12:56  |  bat yam 25/09/07
  195.   Moderator you may not like what I write 12:58  |  Edith 25/09/07
  196.   Ahmadinejad`s visit 13:03  |  Mike 25/09/07
  197.   I expect Ahmadinejad will defect from Iran with his family soon 13:11  |  Susanna/Shoshanna 25/09/07
  198.   All Dictators turn on the charm and entice the gullible 13:11  |  Josh 25/09/07
  199.   he lost 13:14  |  sam 25/09/07
  200.   Iran`s nuclear ambition 13:14  |  Jason 25/09/07
  201.   ahmadinejad`s visit to Columbia 13:17  |  Richard Witty 25/09/07
  202.   You`re blind too 13:19  |  Chet Bowen 25/09/07
  203.   Edith - insults to muslims? 13:23  |  Maimon 25/09/07
  204.   completely agree 13:25  |  Robert 25/09/07
  205.   Iran had the U.S. on our knees after taking our U.S diplomats 13:26  |  Susanna/Shoshanna 25/09/07
  206.   hannah and her ugly sisters 13:26  |  alan 25/09/07
  207.   winners and losers 13:28  |  a wandering Jew 25/09/07
  208.   Nobody is a loser 13:29  |  Yang 25/09/07
  209.   #121, Esther, excellent post 13:30  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 25/09/07
  210.   Edith Bunker and New York Mike are proof that 13:30  |  Trembling Palestine 25/09/07
  211.   this american stands by israel...NFM 13:36  |  Melanie 25/09/07
  212.   Ahmadinejads visit 13:38  |  adrian moff 25/09/07
  213.   on average american 13:38  |  Igor D. 25/09/07
  214.   Mr Bollinger, yours is the lowest-brow kind of disgrace 13:39  |  zmogus 25/09/07
  215.   Brilliant speach!! A breath of fresh air... 13:40  |  Joe Wagner 25/09/07
  216.   Glad we heard him 13:41  |  American 25/09/07
  217.   Ahmadinejad promoted Israel`s implosion 13:43  |  Israel-lover 25/09/07
  218.   Nothing but lies and hypocracy in his speech! 13:43  |  Roxana from Iran 25/09/07
  219.   Ahmedijad the clear winner 13:44  |  saladin 25/09/07
  220.   as long as palestinian problem is not resolved 13:44  |  Igor D. 25/09/07
  221.   Ahmadi is Right to much expent 13:44  |  Fahad 25/09/07
  222.   Who was ahmedinijad aiming his message at? 13:44  |  Chris Linthwaite 25/09/07
  223.   WALID @127 13:45  |  G A B E 1 ALWAYS 25/09/07
  224.   ANALYSIS: The clear loser from Ahmadinejad`s visit is Israel 13:46  |  Lee 25/09/07
  225.   holocust denial 13:47  |  saladin 25/09/07
  226.   Ignorant Americans? 13:47  |  Deborah 25/09/07
  227.   Nuclear Weapons - Us, Them and We 13:48  |  John Doe 25/09/07
  228.   #130 victor hardman 13:49  |  SAM 25/09/07
  229.   Ahmadinejad 13:50  |  bob 25/09/07
  230.   #43, 44, e.m to Hannah. 13:54  |  zmogus 25/09/07
  231.   Ahmadinejad 13:55  |  Anthony D. Godwin 25/09/07
  232.   ravi of chandigarh 14:00  |  pundit 25/09/07
  233.   Ahmadinejad is right 14:04  |  Kamal 25/09/07
  234.   Gabe1 Always 14:05  |  Walid 25/09/07
  235.   Simple Test 14:08  |  Vague Liberal Fool 25/09/07
  236.   Deborah 14:10  |  Walid 25/09/07
  237.   Loser Ahmadinejad 14:10  |  mike 25/09/07
  238.   Freedom shined it`s lovely glow on Ahmad Ass 14:11  |  The Equalizer 25/09/07
  239.   Picture caption wrong 14:12  |  dh 25/09/07
  240.   Shmuel is RIGHT 100% 14:15  |  Alan 25/09/07
  241.   ANALYSIS: The clear loser from Ahmadinejad`s visit is Israel 14:16  |  DBOWES 25/09/07
  242.   the shameless ravi and lakshmi 14:17  |  sonia gandhi 25/09/07
  243.   I am an "average" American 14:17  |  Nancy Ramsey 25/09/07
  244.   Bollinger wins Rosey O`Donnel cheap shot award 14:20  |  Natallie Durson 25/09/07
  245.   Israel stifling free debate again 14:20  |  Ash 25/09/07
  246.   Is Rosner British? 14:21  |  Niall 25/09/07
  247.   ravi and lakshmi 14:22  |  sonia gandhi 25/09/07
  248.   Edith 149 lekker slaapje 14:23  |  Rani Habelgi 25/09/07
  249.   Shmuel Rosber is WRONG! 14:24  |  Eric 25/09/07
  250.   you will loose isreal 14:25  |  Joseph DeBlaker 25/09/07
  251.   #80 - Gordon 14:25  |  Deborah 25/09/07
  252.   Let`s face it ... 14:27  |  Easygofar 25/09/07
  253.   # 138 ChanahS " hereg naki " 14:30  |  Joseph E . 25/09/07
  254.   #11 - lakshmi has ZERO credibility 14:31  |  Maurice 25/09/07
  255.   ravi and lakshmi 14:32  |  sonia gandhi 25/09/07
  256.   Rosners Blog 14:33  |  Gary Bradley 25/09/07
  257.   Ahmadinejad WAS LAUGHED AT! 14:38  |  Jon 25/09/07
  258.   No. 152 ????? 14:40  |  a wandering Jew 25/09/07
  259.   my name is ravi-lakshmi 14:47  |  ravi-lakshmi 25/09/07
  260.   ravi-lakshmi 14:50  |  ravi lakshmi 25/09/07
  261.   Hannah #35 and the elegance of liars 14:51  |  Jon 25/09/07
  262.   Was the Lobby mollified? 14:54  |  Tosefta 25/09/07
  263.   #206 Rani Habelgi 15:02  |  Edith 25/09/07
  264.   #70 - lakshmi tries to spin his lies 15:02  |  Maurice 25/09/07
  265.   fragrant exciting and glamorous ahmad 15:10  |  lakshmi clone 25/09/07
  266.   to Esther & campany 15:10  |  Imad 25/09/07
  267.   Andreas - a little tip for you 15:11  |  Israeli 25/09/07
  268.   BOLLINGER`S Attack On Ahmadinejad Brought HIM Into Question. 15:11  |  Proud Pal Defender 25/09/07
  269.   proof of the power of the Jewish Lobby 15:14  |  peter 25/09/07
  270.   Need for Holocaust analysis 15:15  |  AM 25/09/07
  271.   # 242 Tosefta mi Tveria - Quite reasonable assessment - I agree. 15:16  |  17 25/09/07
  272.   Bollinger Pandering to Zionists. 15:16  |  Labhras 25/09/07
  273.   He raised his standing 15:17  |  George 25/09/07
  274.   # 242, TOSEFTA 15:17  |  indrajaya 25/09/07
  275.   average ignorant american argument and Rosner`s paranoia 15:18  |  mehmet 25/09/07
  276.   134Walid,agreed bollinger was a bore & a boor,but disagree that 15:33  |  lakshmi 25/09/07
  277.   Adorno on Goebels 15:35  |  Armando de Boutfique 25/09/07
  278.   #264labarse sees sense but not before the final para. 15:35  |  victor hardman 25/09/07
  279.   to Anthony D. Godwin # 219 15:36  |  easygofar 25/09/07
  280.   to Dovy 15:37  |  Observer 25/09/07
  281.   CONNIE & PETRA: absolutely! 15:40  |  Nechama 25/09/07
  282.   Labhhras 15:40  |  17 25/09/07
  283.   FREE SPEECH 15:46  |  Aarom 25/09/07
  284.   Joe Palestinian from Tejas Occupied MARS 15:51  |  GZLives 25/09/07
  285.   #209, Dutch`s undertudy Zmogus 15:52  |  Sidney 25/09/07
  286.   Yoram - Most americans understand, we should be in Iraq 15:53  |  NOW 25/09/07
  287.   #276 - lakshmi now blames the translator! 15:53  |  Maurice 25/09/07
  288.   islam 15:54  |  anonymous 25/09/07
  289.   Brownie You`re Doing a Hell of a Jon" 15:56  |  GZLives 25/09/07
  290.   # 37 15:57  |  Shana 25/09/07
  291.   Connie - OH Connie! 15:57  |  New Yorker 25/09/07
  292.   Jewish Americans=Israeli-Americans 15:57  |  dan 25/09/07
  293.   There is a smoke screen between israeli people and the world outs 15:58  |  Igor 25/09/07
  294.   Kevin 15:59  |  New Yorker 25/09/07
  295.   Mr Bollinger 15:59  |  Good Stuff 25/09/07
  296.   #35 Hannah 16:01  |  John Allen 25/09/07
  297.   Labhras and Lakshmi 16:02  |  Walid 25/09/07
  298.   Say E M At #18 and 19 16:02  |  ballistic 25/09/07
  299.   I believe Ahmadinejad when he says.. 16:03  |  indrajaya 25/09/07
  300.   No Walid, Ahmadinejad evaded answers all on his own 16:05  |  Jacob Blues 25/09/07
  301.   freedom of speech 16:06  |  . 25/09/07
  302.   Honesty? Joe Wagner 16:09  |  Jacob Blues 25/09/07
  303.   Bollinger`s accomplishment yesterday 16:09  |  GZLives 25/09/07
  304.   New Yorker Christianity 16:11  |  Mark T 25/09/07
  305.   #292 Another anti-Semitic ignoramus 16:14  |  Sidney 25/09/07
  306.   Tanks john 16:15  |  Dirk 25/09/07
  307.   # 299, FAKE INDRAJAYA 16:15  |  indrajaya 25/09/07
  308.   Ahmadinejad`s visit 16:17  |  Rick Durocher 25/09/07
  309.   Ah Walid, that old Jews and money routine 16:19  |  Jacob Blues 25/09/07
  310.   eradication of Israel 16:20  |  tomas j mangold 25/09/07
  311.   Denial 16:21  |  Sam 25/09/07
  312.   Roxana from Iran 16:22  |  Jasmine from Israel 25/09/07
  313.   Connie on American apathy 16:23  |  Observer 25/09/07
  314.   Ahmadinejad is NO threat 16:27  |  emad matahin 25/09/07
  315.   Iran KILLS gays... that`s why there are no open homosexuals there 16:28  |  Nannette 25/09/07
  316.   Windjammer .... lolol - you took this from a mag ad in Florida? 16:28  |  GZLives 25/09/07
  317.   Tomas J Mangold 16:32  |  Truths 25/09/07
  318.   Observer`s self-serving nonsense 16:36  |  Truths 25/09/07
  319.   Ain`t necessarily so... 16:37  |  M 25/09/07
  320.   Hysterical Zionists? I think not 16:37  |  GZLives 25/09/07
  321.   The Visit 16:43  |  P. J. Casey 25/09/07
  322.   WE LOVE OUR PRESIDENT... AND HE IS RIGHT 16:43  |  Nadia 25/09/07
  323.   Ahmadinejad is now radioactive on the Left 16:43  |  GZLives 25/09/07
  324.   #218 - Roxana from Iran 16:44  |  Maurice 25/09/07
  325.   #137 S Windjammer 16:44  |  Observer 25/09/07
  326.   Lies by "Truths" 16:46  |  17 25/09/07
  327.   141-gays 16:48  |  Observer 25/09/07
  328.   Mr "Truth" and HIS Truth ... 16:51  |  GZLives 25/09/07
  329.   # 322 Nadia "WE LOVE OUR PRESIDENT" 16:52  |  17 25/09/07
  330.   Ahmadinejad and Iran running scared 16:54  |  CHick 25/09/07
  331.   Ahmadenijad´s Wonderland sounds better than mine? 16:54  |  Alice of Wonderland 25/09/07
  332.   This Guy`s Too Stupid to Be President of a Country! 16:55  |  MIKE 25/09/07
  333.   Walid #148 Not a matter of rudeness 16:56  |  Tzfonit 25/09/07
  334.   Look who`s talking........... 16:58  |  Philip 25/09/07
  335.   Jacob Blues 17:00  |  Walid 25/09/07
  336.   Maurice 17:03  |  Walid 25/09/07
  337.   #182-Ravi 17:03  |  Observer 25/09/07
  338.   The Ahmadinejad Historical Analogy 17:07  |  Sandman 25/09/07
  339.   Chris Linthwaite # 169 17:07  |  ChanahS 25/09/07
  340.   # 312 17:08  |  Roxana from Iran 25/09/07
  341.   Isreal, the problem. 17:08  |  jacob 25/09/07
  342.   Clear Loser is Iran 17:09  |  Mike 25/09/07
  343.   very good analysis 17:13  |  A 25/09/07
  344.   Roxana 17:14  |  Israeli 25/09/07
  345.   17 re Lebhras 17:16  |  Israeli 25/09/07
  346.   ANALYSIS: The clear loser from Ahmadinejad`s visit is Israel 17:17  |  Mathieu Asselin 25/09/07
  347.   ANALYSIS: The clear loser from Ahmadinejad`s visit is Israel 17:19  |  Jack Kay 25/09/07
  348.   Walid,some points,the recent reports indicate that Dubiya is 17:23  |  lakshmi 25/09/07
  349.   # 276 Lakshmi 17:25  |  ChanahS 25/09/07
  350.   #324 17:26  |  Roxana from IRAN 25/09/07
  351.   318-truths 17:27  |  Observer 25/09/07
  352.   Labarse et al 17:27  |  ChanahS 25/09/07
  353.   The Speech changed Many Minds 17:32  |  GZLives 25/09/07
  354.   EVIL IS FREE 17:32  |  Irani 25/09/07
  355.   eradication of Palestinians 318 17:32  |  Mark T 25/09/07
  356.   No homosexuals changed many minds 17:34  |  GZLives 25/09/07
  357.   Walid 297 17:35  |  ChanahS 25/09/07
  358.   M settlement 319 17:36  |  Mark T 25/09/07
  359.   Nuclear power 17:38  |  mathieu asselin 25/09/07
  360.   Nile to Euphrates Delusions 17:39  |  Double Click 25/09/07
  361.   Chicken Little Was Right! 17:39  |  Mark Lincoln 25/09/07
  362.   Truth (NOT) # 317 17:40  |  ChanahS 25/09/07
  363.   TRUTH (NOT) 318 17:42  |  ChanahS 25/09/07
  364.   Shmuel`s sad schmoozing 17:43  |  D.R. Zukerman 25/09/07
  365.   Nadia in Teheran 17:44  |  ChanahS 25/09/07
  366.   #18 em in sf 17:45  |  Labhras 25/09/07
  367.   Freedom to Palestinian, Floridian and Alaskian people 17:46  |  17 25/09/07
  368.   #339 ChanahS 17:46  |  Chris Linthwaite 25/09/07
  369.   erradications of palestinians 17:49  |  mathieu 25/09/07
  370.   WHAT HOLOCAUST - Moslems? 17:53  |  Alice of Wonderland 25/09/07
  371.   Mike #332 17:55  |  D.R. Zukerman 25/09/07
  372.   INDRAYAJA: please read Roxana´s letter #218 17:56  |  enlightening 25/09/07
  373.   For Labhras, on the unedifying grovelling of Bollinger # 272 17:58  |  Clickfool 25/09/07
  374.   Protective Sheild 18:03  |  Javid Iran 25/09/07
  375.   Mehmet the most intelligent 18:03  |  David Israel 25/09/07
  376.   holocaus denying 18:04  |  math 25/09/07
  377.   #282 17 18:07  |  Labhras 25/09/07
  378.   Know Thy Enemy 18:08  |  Rob 25/09/07
  379.   anonymous - # 288 18:08  |  David Israel 25/09/07
  380.   Jacob Blues 18:09  |  Walid 25/09/07
  381.   Why do I have to chose sides? 18:16  |  Joe 25/09/07
  382.   #352 Chomping Channah 18:18  |  Labhras 25/09/07
  383.   LABHRAS - Re # 282 17 18:20  |  17 25/09/07
  384.   What message was sent by this speech? 18:22  |  Clickfool 25/09/07
  385.   Tzfonit 18:23  |  Walid 25/09/07
  386.   Clickfool # 373 18:27  |  ChanahS 25/09/07
  387.   #384 - Clickfool 18:28  |  MichaelF 25/09/07
  388.   376 - math 18:30  |  MichaelF 25/09/07
  389.   Oh, come on, Shmuel! Would yo uthink about this? 18:34  |  Denton 25/09/07
  390.   Clear loser....all oppressed Muslims 18:34  |  The Equalizer 25/09/07
  391.   Joe # 381 18:34  |  ChanahS 25/09/07
  392.   To those who dismiss Ahmadinehad as an idiot 18:37  |  MichaelF 25/09/07
  393.   Labarse 382 18:38  |  ChanahS 25/09/07
  394.   #384 Chana 18:39  |  Mexicali 25/09/07
  395.   So? 18:39  |  Colin Wright 25/09/07
  396.   ChanahS 18:39  |  Walid 25/09/07
  397.   Can`t anybody see what is happening here... 18:41  |  Brad 25/09/07
  398.   re #8 `You`re way off Rosner` 18:42  |  Colin Wright 25/09/07
  399.   Let´s keep on mind that the Pals have a country: Jordan since-47! 18:45  |  Alice of Wonderland 25/09/07
  400.   I`m sorry to say but Israel 18:46  |  Kris 25/09/07
  401.   ROSNER 18:46  |  JOJO 25/09/07
  402.   ChanahS 18:46  |  Walid 25/09/07
  403.   rob 378 18:48  |  alan 25/09/07
  404.   MichaelF 18:49  |  math 25/09/07
  405.   beware of false prophets 18:49  |  Kris 25/09/07
  406.   #336 - Walid 18:53  |  Maurice 25/09/07
  407.   Walid #385 Our Nuclear Power and A`s 18:53  |  Tzfonit 25/09/07
  408.   Ahmedenijad - Rosner`s Blog 18:54  |  Gopal 25/09/07
  409.   Another question 18:55  |  Observer 25/09/07
  410.   Chris L. - keep this in mind, too 18:55  |  Polybios 25/09/07
  411.   ROXANA FROM IRAN 18:56  |  JOJO 25/09/07
  412.   #299, Indrajaya 18:57  |  Roxana from IRAN 25/09/07
  413.   Kris, I see you`re Austrian 18:59  |  Israeli 25/09/07
  414.   Polybios 18:59  |  Chris Linthwaite 25/09/07
  415.   # 18, #19 18:59  |  Kris 25/09/07
  416.   History ended in Wonderland (Alice #399) 19:01  |  Tosefta 25/09/07
  417.   MichaelF 19:02  |  math 25/09/07
  418.   JOJO # 401 19:03  |  David Israel 25/09/07
  419.   Shmuel Rosner`s article 19:03  |  Hector Fattorini 25/09/07
  420.   Guess who`s coming to dinner 19:04  |  Jacob Blues 25/09/07
  421.   SALADIN 19:05  |  JOJO 25/09/07
  422.   Dinner preparations, part II 19:05  |  Jacob Blues 25/09/07
  423.   MATH 19:08  |  JOJO 25/09/07
  424.   DAVID ISRAEL 19:12  |  JOJO 25/09/07
  425.   Ahmadinejad`s visit to Columbia 19:13  |  Anne Adams 25/09/07
  426.   Chanta #391 19:14  |  Joe 25/09/07
  427.   Tosefta 262 19:15  |  Chas, 25/09/07
  428.   If Mohammed was a profit then why should Jews be scapegoats 19:16  |  Michael Korn 25/09/07
  429.   Describe this loser! 19:18  |  Paul 25/09/07
  430.   Alan 403 19:19  |  Rob 25/09/07
  431.   The clear loser from Ahmadinejad`s visit is Israel 19:19  |  W McCALMAN 25/09/07
  432.   New Yorker 19:20  |  Connie 25/09/07
  433.   Thats incorrect! 19:20  |  Paul 25/09/07
  434.   #11 lakshmi - Indian famine lie 19:21  |  Yonatan 25/09/07
  435.   #393 Chomping Channah 19:22  |  Labhras 25/09/07
  436.   OBSERVER #313 19:22  |  Connie 25/09/07
  437.   Rabshaqah 19:22  |  Paul 25/09/07
  438.   JOJO 423 what about the cluster bombs? 19:22  |  Michael 25/09/07
  439.   Mexicali # 394 19:27  |  ChanahS 25/09/07
  440.   # 399 Alice in Wonderland re- "Apartheid" 19:27  |  17 25/09/07
  441.   Walid to Chanah S # 402 19:27  |  Lynn 25/09/07
  442.   Rosner is almost always wrong, and this is no exception. 19:28  |  Jak Black 25/09/07
  443.   Khameini should have been the one invited 19:30  |  Lynn 25/09/07
  444.   Freedom of speech: 1 Iranian Prez:0 Cuni:0 Israel:0 19:31  |  Michael Korn 25/09/07
  445.   Walid (#396) 19:32  |  Gil 25/09/07
  446.   O` How the Palestinians forget thier involment with Hitler 19:32  |  Sandman 25/09/07
  447.   Colin WRONG # 395 19:33  |  ChanahS 25/09/07
  448.   US and Israel mirror each other in Democracy! 19:36  |  Joe 25/09/07
  449.   JOJO - Israel committed crimes against humanity 19:36  |  Math2 25/09/07
  450.   Walid 402 19:37  |  ChanahS 25/09/07
  451.   # 398 Colin 19:37  |  Lynn 25/09/07
  452.   todays articleby Shmuel Rosner 19:37  |  Kha 25/09/07
  453.   For Chanah S # 386 19:39  |  Clickfool 25/09/07
  454.   Chris L - no comparison 19:39  |  Polybios 25/09/07
  455.   Connie - OH Connie! 19:44  |  New Yorker 25/09/07
  456.   lakshmi,you see amadman coming off as the winner because of 19:44  |  terrornator 25/09/07
  457.   #383 17 19:45  |  Labhras 25/09/07
  458.   Thank you Sandman #446. Good post 19:47  |  Michael Korn 25/09/07
  459.   jojo 19:48  |  math 25/09/07
  460.   #438 19:48  |  JOJO 25/09/07
  461.   For MichaelF # 387 19:49  |  Clickfool 25/09/07
  462.   Who is the looser 19:54  |  Abu Yusuf 25/09/07
  463.   Sandman , do you think Ahmadi makes sense at all ? 19:55  |  Elinor 25/09/07
  464.   michael in the uk,when your enemy is willing to hide behind women 19:56  |  terrornator 25/09/07
  465.   # 383 17 Labhras 19:56  |  17 25/09/07
  466.   Law of the Jungle (Lo Tov-17 #440; re Alice in Wonderland) 19:57  |  Tosefta 25/09/07
  467.   #373 Clickfool 19:58  |  Kevin 25/09/07
  468.   Walid 396 19:59  |  ChanahS 25/09/07
  469.   israel gains 19:59  |  Iche Behr 25/09/07
  470.   connie # 432 i doubt if newyorker is really a newyorker, 19:59  |  terrornator 25/09/07
  471.   There are homosexuals in Iran...... 20:01  |  Dave from Chicago 25/09/07
  472.   Ahmadinejad`s inconsistencies 20:01  |  Richard 25/09/07
  473.   jojo sorry 20:03  |  math 25/09/07
  474.   Gopal 408 re Lakshmi 20:03  |  ChanahS 25/09/07
  475.   America is a constitutional Demo. Israel is not! 20:05  |  Big Dif. 25/09/07
  476.   #382 Labrhas 20:06  |  Kevin 25/09/07
  477.   # 90 dana. if that is the case Hear What Some Americans feel!! 20:08  |  KATH` 25/09/07
  478.   irish rubbernecker fails history 20:08  |  peter 25/09/07
  479.   Kevin do give us your full name and address 20:09  |  Jasmine Murphy 25/09/07
  480.   Legend of the Mufti and the Holocaust (Sandman #446) 20:10  |  Tosefta 25/09/07
  481.   jojo 20:13  |  mat 25/09/07
  482.   Chris L # 414 20:13  |  ChanahS 25/09/07
  483.   # 102 Eli....Rosner-Quick To Draw Emotional Conclusions.My 2 P`th 20:15  |  KATH` 25/09/07
  484.   math 417 20:16  |  ChanahS 25/09/07
  485.   Hector Fattorini # 419 20:17  |  ChanahS 25/09/07
  486.   terrornator 20:19  |  New Yorker 25/09/07
  487.   # 466 Tosefta/Stalin of Jungle/My friend 20:21  |  17 25/09/07
  488.   Wrong, wrong, wrong!!! 20:23  |  David 25/09/07
  489.   # 142 Esther. Yes,the True face of A Monster.I am Putting ADDENDU 20:23  |  KATH` 25/09/07
  490.   Israel & Palestinians Are the loser Thank to Bush ! 20:23  |  Sami Abdul 25/09/07
  491.   426 Joe 20:26  |  ChanahS 25/09/07
  492.   Really, Tosefta, I expect better from you (#480) 20:26  |  Polybios 25/09/07
  493.   One sided rubbish story 20:28  |  J 25/09/07
  494.   achmedinejad speech 20:28  |  Deborah Horner 25/09/07
  495.   YOU ARE WRONG 20:29  |  SHALOM 25/09/07
  496.   chanahS part II 20:29  |  math 25/09/07
  497.   ChanahS let me know is you need more proff 20:31  |  math 25/09/07
  498.   My Holocuast Problems 20:32  |  michael santomauro 25/09/07
  499.   Hannah, you are a simpleton 20:33  |  David 25/09/07
  500.   The ONLY ONES who would agree with Rosner 20:33  |  Pathfinder. 25/09/07
  501.   columbia speech 20:35  |  Deborah Horner 25/09/07
  502.   terrornator 464 you`re the reason we`re losing the war on terror 20:35  |  Michael 25/09/07
  503.   Labarse # 435 20:36  |  ChanahS 25/09/07
  504.   No Wlid, you have your facts confused 20:38  |  GZLives 25/09/07
  505.   new yorker,you need to remember one thing,when it comes to 20:40  |  terrornator 25/09/07
  506.   ChanahS more media control 20:40  |  math 25/09/07