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Posted: June 06, 2007

Nuclear military option on the Republican table

The third Republican debate was still no more than a prelude to the real show - the one including not just Thompson the governor, but also Thompson the actor. Nevertheless, It provided for some interesting moments related to issues of concern to this blog. My notes from the second Democratic debate, earlier this week ("Mr. Baker, your services no longer needed"), can be read here.

Iran

Rudi Giuliani questioned the strange declaration by Joe Biden in the Democratic debate about the number of years before Iran has a useable nuclear device ready. Biden said there's still a decade before Iran has the lethal capability, Giuliani begged to differ.

Other than that, the tough rhetoric from the first Republican debate repeated itself with even more zeal. The candidates, well, some of them, are not just leaving the military option on the table - but rather the tactical-nuclear option. Four of the ten candidates were asked, all four said yes. Hunter, Gilmore, Giuliani, Romney will consider using tactical nuclear weapons, or so they say. Republicans, generally speaking and in theory only until proved otherwise, are ready to talk to Iran but also ready to bomb it.

Israel 1

My beloved country was first mentioned less than ten minutes into the debate. The Middle East, explained former Virginia Governor Jim Gilmore is an important region the US should take care of because of "our interest in Israel, our interest in energy". What's that supposed to mean? I don't exactly know (to be fair, here's the full quote: I think the true business is this: The interests of the United States is in creating as much stability as possible in the Middle East. There is a very great danger to this country: our interests in Israel, our interests in energy and in other ways. There is a giant danger of the Middle East becoming an unstable place). Two minutes following Gilmore it was Senator McCain mentioning Israel by way of explaining why the US should not abandon Iraq. Five minutes later, it was Senator Brownback reminding the viewers that Israel was the country threatened by Iran (Ahmadinejad just this past week called for the destruction of Israel).

Bottom line: too much, too soon. As I already wrote, Israel gains nothing by being mentioned constantly in this race.

Israel 2

What's with this question about "Britain and Israel" letting homosexuals serve openly in the army? Do they want to ruin Israel's reputation in the eyes of its great right-wing-evangelical-Christian-Republican supporters?

Why not a question about "our great ally Israel who does not have a separation of church and state and does have mandatory bible classes at its state-run schools"?

  1.   THE END OF SECULAR POLITICS IN THE US 09:13  |  indrajaya 06/06/07
  2.   Indonesia 09:41  |  Natjus 06/06/07
  3.   America - nuclear terrorist 09:55  |  Clickfool 06/06/07
  4.   # 2, NATJUS 09:58  |  indrajaya 06/06/07
  5.   #2 Natjus 10:01  |  Dav 06/06/07
  6.   Nuking or Diplomacy? 10:06  |  Scientist 06/06/07
  7.   # 6, SCIENTIST 10:28  |  indrajaya 06/06/07
  8.   jitters 11:22  |  Observer 06/06/07
  9.   the bellicosity of America and Israel 11:40  |  Tami 06/06/07
  10.   Romney looked like a serious Republican contender last night 13:39  |  Ronnie Wolman 06/06/07
  11.   NOBODY FROM THE DEMS EITHER 14:01  |  indrajaya 06/06/07
  12.   Republican candidates 14:33  |  Brod 06/06/07
  13.   Its about time the U.S. takes action against a REAL THREAT 14:38  |  Dr. David I. Gross 06/06/07
  14.   The Republicans just don`t get it! 14:47  |  MichaelF 06/06/07
  15.   yes we have them but we haven`t used them 14:56  |  dear cluck fool 06/06/07
  16.   For David L.Gross, a fan of Karl Rove # 13 14:59  |  Clickfool 06/06/07
  17.   as a christian zionist,moderate republican, 15:12  |  terry 06/06/07
  18.   Nuke Option on Iran 15:15  |  Larry53 06/06/07
  19.   Nuclear Option 15:19  |  Larry53 06/06/07
  20.   The Way To Go 15:36  |  Steven 06/06/07
  21.   Evidence of just how the lunatic fringe has 15:38  |  Mark Lincoln 06/06/07
  22.   #14 Steven 15:57  |  John Allen 06/06/07
  23.   That`s Why I`ll Vote Republican .... 15:58  |  Terry 06/06/07
  24.   15 Mark Lincoln - The Problem for Primary Voters 16:18  |  Mark of Lewiston 06/06/07
  25.   Talking about using nuclear weapons . . . 16:55  |  Geoff 06/06/07
  26.   re:Nuclear military option on the Republican table 17:00  |  DK 06/06/07
  27.   to #21-the rep looney is easy to spot 17:01  |  terry 06/06/07
  28.   # 13 17:19  |  Forest Gump 06/06/07
  29.   #13 17:37  |  Sheila 06/06/07
  30.   The reason for the NPT, and how Iran works in. Part 1 17:40  |  Boaz 06/06/07
  31.   The reason for the NPT, and how Iran works in. Part 2 17:41  |  Boaz 06/06/07
  32.   The reason for the NPT, and how Iran works in. Part 3 17:41  |  Boaz 06/06/07
  33.   23 Terry - You`re Right about One Thing 18:07  |  Mark of Lewiston 06/06/07
  34.   Iran and Nuclear Weapons 18:33  |  Joachim Martillo 06/06/07
  35.   Threat to Peace 18:39  |  Maria 06/06/07
  36.   Nuclear threat 18:45  |  Maria 06/06/07
  37.   #20 - Terry 18:46  |  MichaelF 06/06/07
  38.   sure Tami, and your heros are taciturn and angelic 18:52  |  Michael Korn 06/06/07
  39.   #12 - Brod 18:54  |  MichaelF 06/06/07
  40.   Ripping the foundation out from under the NPT 19:15  |  Pablo B 06/06/07
  41.   What a boring manicheism by Clickfool and others. 19:23  |  Mireya Siquieros 06/06/07
  42.   Bravo Republicans ! 19:27  |  Fortuna Benmayor 06/06/07
  43.   Correction to my earlier post 19:34  |  MichaelF 06/06/07
  44.   Clickfool`s Pavilions and Oblivions 19:36  |  Ronnie Wolman 06/06/07
  45.   Fortuna: The Mania at Times 19:44  |  Ronnie Wolman 06/06/07
  46.   # 6, congratulations! 21:03  |  Shalom 06/06/07
  47.   i`ll be voting republican! 21:26  |  Igor D. 06/06/07
  48.   # 14, christian zionist 21:34  |  Shalom 06/06/07
  49.   THE END OF SECULAR POLITICS IN THE US 21:44  |  Paul 06/06/07
  50.   RE: as a christian zionist,moderate republican, 21:52  |  Paul 06/06/07
  51.   The nuclear endgame 21:55  |  Michael Grossman 06/06/07
  52.   Everybody in the Muslim world knows...#7 22:15  |  Karl 06/06/07
  53.   Nuclear Military Option 22:33  |  P. J. Casey 06/06/07
  54.   pursue both options, but be prepared for that which is necessary 22:40  |  Leon 06/06/07
  55.   Tami 23:25  |  Sarah 06/06/07
  56.   what about Israel nuke? 23:34  |  ex-Israeli 06/06/07
  57.   The Next President Will Not Be Republican 23:42  |  Jane 06/06/07
  58.   Iran and Options: ex-Israeli 00:06  |  CHGODMK 07/06/07
  59.   re:ex-Israeli 00:32  |  Efox 07/06/07
  60.   If they make it an us or them situation 00:34  |  Efox 07/06/07
  61.   CHGODMK: Chicken and Scrambled Eggs 02:42  |  Ronnie Wolman 07/06/07
  62.   GAY RIGHTS MAKE ISRAEL LOOK PROGRESSIVE, NOT BAD 04:01  |  Eli 07/06/07
  63.   indrajaya, Who would you like to see be the next Am. Predisent? 04:29  |  Virginia 07/06/07
  64.   Really, really, clueless people 05:43  |  Aaron Levitt 07/06/07
  65.   To the Fool - Well GOLLLY BE 05:58  |  Dr David I. Gross 07/06/07
  66.   Run Forest Run 06:04  |  Dr David I. Gross 07/06/07
  67.   Ex- Israelie - stay in BOSTON 06:11  |  Dr David I. Gross 07/06/07
  68.   All that`s wrong with American society today 06:11  |  Garrick 07/06/07
  69.   taboo against using nuclear weapons is valuable 06:21  |  Bush hater 07/06/07
  70.   Ronnie, None of Them Are Gonna Make It 07:04  |  Bernie 07/06/07
  71.   Isn`t It Clear to Everyone 07:10  |  Bernie 07/06/07
  72.   # 49, PAUL 08:01  |  indrajaya 07/06/07
  73.   # 49, PAUL 08:01  |  indrajaya 07/06/07
  74.   re: Eli 08:01  |  Efox 07/06/07
  75.   re: Bush hater 08:08  |  Efox 07/06/07
  76.   re: Bernie 08:10  |  Efox 07/06/07
  77.   # 63, VIRGINIA 08:13  |  indrajaya 07/06/07
  78.   TO GEOFF #25 08:28  |  Steve Beikirch 07/06/07
  79.   Russia and China 09:12  |  DA 07/06/07
  80.   Gays deserve human rights. Period. 17:24  |  AV 07/06/07
  81.   Nuke talk reveals weakness 20:09  |  John 07/06/07
  82.   re: EFOX 20:58  |  Eli 07/06/07
  83.   Israeli fanatacism 23:33  |  Oracle 07/06/07
  84.   ex-Israeli, you just did it yourself 23:58  |  Jake 07/06/07
  85.   To the fool - you can fool some ot the people......... 03:37  |  Dr David I. Grosss 08/06/07
  86.   Efox makes it sound like Ahmadinejad won a free and fair election 12:00  |  newageblues 08/06/07


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