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Revisiting the possibility of a Rice ticket in 2008

Marcus Mabry, author of Twice as Good: Condoleezza Rice and Her Path to Power, told CFR that "it would be very hard for" U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to "turn down" the chance to run for president or vice president. Mabry, Newsweek magazine's chief of correspondents, says that Republican insiders are already eyeing Rice, particularly as a possible VP candidate.

I mentioned Mabry's book a couple of weeks ago, writing about the relations between President Bush and Rice and comparing them to those of Prime Minister Olmert and Foreign Minister Livni. "The U.S. secretary of state serves the president as long as the president wants him or her; the Israeli minister is an independent creature who can suggest to the prime minister that he resign from his job."

But even more interesting in the context of a possible Rice ticket is her relations with Israel. And in this case, slowly but gradually, Rice is the one now playing the traditional role of state secretary: representing the more hopeful (or naive) party in the administration, the one that's still thinking there's a chance for a breakthrough in the Israeli-Arab peace process. The so-called "benchmarks" suggested by her people - and rejected by Israel - were one form of the recently growing distance between Rice's position and Israel's.

The possibility of a Rice ticket is not a new one. When we started our Israel Factor project Rice was one of the ranked candidates until we dropped her from the list (we thought there were no signs that she was going to run). And she wasn't doing very well - our panel watched her opinions and actions evolve and didn't like it. In mid-January we asked: Why did The Israel Factor panelists downgrade Rice? The answer was complicated, but worth repeating:

"We presented the panel with a series of questions that could explain the drop in their estimation [of Rice] and we asked them to reply with a number from 1 to 5 (1 shows that the issue had no influence and 5 shows that it had a great deal of influence on the change in the grade). Various panelists gave different answers about what's bothering them, so there is no alternative but to assume that Rice is just a miserable victim of circumstances. The panelists who are worried by the possibility of American pressure on the Palestinian issue lowered her grade because they believe that some of her statements show she is over-committed to the establishment of a Palestinian state. Others, who really have no diplomatic problem with Rice or with a certain amount of American pressure, lowered her grade because their estimation of President Bush is very low and her loyalty to his policy causes them to doubt her intelligence."

What would have happened had we kept Rice on the list? I called two of the panelists today and asked them this question (they do not necessarily represent the views of the other panelists) and the reply I got didn't surprise me: they don?t think her ranking would have changed for the better- probably the opposite is true. (The survey with the specific questions on Rice is here).


And on a more personal note: I thank all the readers who bothered to congratulate me via talk-back and mail on the birth of my daughter.

  1.   Rice for President 22:29  |  dbw 29/05/07
  2.   She would make a more positive contribution to world affairs if 23:10  |  Apartheid 29/05/07
  3.   Rice: Nothing There Really 00:12  |  Yoram 30/05/07
  4.   Isn`t The Real Reason Obvious? 03:21  |  Anon 30/05/07
  5.   Rice will be the Vice-President 04:10  |  section9 30/05/07
  6.   Rice wouldn`t stand a chance in 2008 07:15  |  Devin Leonard 30/05/07
  7.   you`ve listened to too much dick morris 07:16  |  terry 30/05/07
  8.   Another Golda Meir? Yipes! 07:34  |  Yosemite 30/05/07
  9.   Rice 10:08  |  Connie 30/05/07
  10.   SHE IS HOPELESS 10:24  |  indrajaya 30/05/07
  11.   # 7, YOSEMITE 10:28  |  indrajaya 30/05/07
  12.   The best of the " bad"..... 10:58  |  Swiss (Dino) 30/05/07
  13.   Rice doesn`t have a chance in hell 12:09  |  RW 30/05/07
  14.   Swiss (Dino) 12:22  |  Walid 30/05/07
  15.   She bet the wrong horse 12:33  |  Ronnie Wolman 30/05/07
  16.   No One Connected to Bush Can Win 13:21  |  Jane 30/05/07
  17.   # 14, WALID (RE: DINO) 13:52  |  indrajaya 30/05/07
  18.   Powell was what? A Good Soldier? 14:11  |  Ronnie Wolman 30/05/07
  19.   I pushed the wrong button on Powell 14:13  |  Ronnie Wolman 30/05/07
  20.   We don`t need Queen Condi after King George 14:34  |  newageblues 30/05/07
  21.   Condi the Unclean 15:07  |  CHGODMK 30/05/07
  22.   To Anon 15:47  |  CHGODMK 30/05/07
  23.   Rice ticket 15:56  |  Brod 30/05/07
  24.   Smile when you say that .. or laugh out loud is ok too 16:17  |  Natallie Durson 30/05/07
  25.   #12, Swiss Dino, don`t agree on Colin Powell 16:25  |  newageblues 30/05/07
  26.   Please don`t waste paper and ink. 17:02  |  Chick Corea 30/05/07
  27.   AUBTI TOM PLAYS THE PIANO!1THATS ALL FOLKS 17:07  |  paul harris 30/05/07
  28.   Rice for president 17:21  |  zebulonguy 30/05/07
  29.   Natallie Durson (Post No. 24) 17:47  |  Johnny Weintraub 30/05/07
  30.   # 14 Walid 17:47  |  Swiss (Dino) 30/05/07
  31.   # 25 newageblues 17:57  |  Swiss (Dino) 30/05/07
  32.   Johnny Weintraub: Bush and His Delivery 17:58  |  CHGODMK 30/05/07
  33.   MY PROPOSAL: USA BECOMES A MONARCHY WITH A RICE QUEEN 18:00  |  PhiloEvraios 30/05/07
  34.   says who? 18:19  |  margaret 30/05/07
  35.   CHGODMK:Johnny Weintraub and the 10 Gallon Hat 19:22  |  Ronnie Wolman 30/05/07
  36.   SHE CAN COUNT ON ME 20:22  |  Shloimele 30/05/07
  37.   Condi`s Woes... 20:50  |  Psalm 30/05/07
  38.   # 33 PhiloEvraios: CLASSIC! 21:03  |  Psalm 30/05/07
  39.   No way 21:05  |  W 30/05/07
  40.   Fried Rice 21:21  |  tadchase 30/05/07
  41.   RIce- No Way! 22:18  |  tbart 30/05/07
  42.   If you liked the way the Iraq War has been managed, 22:51  |  Yehoshua ben Eliezer 30/05/07
  43.   # 24 to natallie 23:15  |  eric 30/05/07
  44.   # 16 rumsfeld, dear jane... 23:22  |  eric 30/05/07
  45.   You must be kidding 23:24  |  The Cohen Brother 30/05/07
  46.   MACSHEYFA! 00:23  |  Chaim 31/05/07
  47.   Badly in need of anti-psychotic drugs 00:33  |  Mark Lincoln 31/05/07
  48.   Rice Not Fit For Any Office 01:06  |  J Olson 31/05/07
  49.   Never In A Million Years 02:05  |  chet 31/05/07
  50.   # 45 to cohen brother 04:13  |  eric 31/05/07
  51.   CHGODMK (Post No. 32) 04:20  |  Johnny Weintraub 31/05/07
  52.   Johnny Weintraub 04:47  |  CHGODMK 31/05/07
  53.   Johnny Weintraub: My Personal Favorite Bushism from Slate.com 04:57  |  CHGODMK 31/05/07
  54.   #50 05:03  |  The Cohen Brother 31/05/07
  55.   Ron Paul 2008 05:08  |  RAB 31/05/07
  56.   Boot Rosner - Start Talent Search! 05:28  |  PB Boot 31/05/07
  57.   ROSNER MUST BE SMOKING ...... 05:53  |  V. 31/05/07
  58.   #50 dear eric you are KIDDING me !!!! 06:05  |  paul harris 31/05/07
  59.   Silly to even think of it 10:02  |  OldVet 31/05/07
  60.   Rice Pres or VP? HORRIFYING.... 10:24  |  Reuven 31/05/07
  61.   Rice on the 2008 ticket 14:04  |  Gadd Sheffy 31/05/07
  62.   Reply to RAB (Post 55) 16:37  |  Johnny Weintraub 31/05/07
  63.   Condi -- Go Back to School 22:59  |  MichaelF 31/05/07
  64.   #55 - RAB 23:03  |  MichaelF 31/05/07
  65.   # 58 dearest paul; not kidding at all... 08:22  |  eric 01/06/07


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