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Posted: January 15, 2007

Has the war with Iran already started?

My latest Slate article (published just before the weekend) deals with the aftermath of President Bush's speech, and asks whether it amounted to a declaration of war against Iran. You can read the piece in full here, or just a couple of paragraphs here:

Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., spotted it. At the end of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, Biden looked sternly at the secretary and made one last point: "If the president concluded he had to invade Iran ... or Syria in pursuit of these networks, I believe the present authorization granted the president to use force in Iraq does not cover that and he does need congressional authority to do that ... I just want to set that marker."

So, the marker was set, but on the ground, events were already moving ahead of it. On Thursday, U.S. forces raided Iranian targets in Irbil, Iraq, and detained five Iranian officials. As he mentioned in Wednesday night's speech, President Bush has ordered a second aircraft carrier, along with its support ships, to the Gulf. "Succeeding in Iraq also requires defending its territorial integrity and stabilizing the region in the face of extremist challenges," said the president. "This begins with addressing Iran and Syria."

No doubt old comparisons will soon be made: If Bush was once Lyndon Johnson and Iraq Vietnam, the president will now become Richard Nixon and Iran will serve as neighboring Cambodia. "Some of us remember 1970, Madam Secretary," Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., told Rice. "And that was Cambodia, and when our government lied to the American people and said we didn't cross the border going into Cambodia, in fact we did."

Some of the reasons for escalation are strikingly similar: supply routes, material support, insurgency sanctuaries. It's a tempting comparison. But it is also misleading, as the president recognized in his speech when he declared, "We will work with others to prevent Iran from gaining nuclear weapons and dominating the region." Cambodia never tried to acquire nuclear weapons, nor did it pursue regional dominance.

National Intelligence Director John D. Negroponte expressed his concern during a Senate Intelligence Committee hearing Thursday: "Iran's influence is rising in ways that go beyond the menace of its nuclear program," he said. If threatened, it might retaliate with terror attacks - with the help of its ally Hezbollah - "against U.S. interests." The rocket attack on the U.S. Embassy in Greece Friday morning serves as a sobering reminder of the many options terrorist organizations can quite easily pursue.

"The Iranians need to know, and the Syrians need to know," said Rice in yesterday's hearing, "that the United States is not finding it acceptable and is not going to simply tolerate their activities to try and harm our forces or to destabilize Iraq." This drops the ball, yet again, on the Iranian side of the court. It is high noon: If Tehran doesn't stop its nefarious activities - and assuming Washington doesn't go back on its pledge to "not tolerate" - someone, somewhere, is going to pull the trigger.


More on Iran on Rosner's Domain:

To do or not to do?

The Israel Factor: Good on Iran is good for Israel

The Iran Time Saver

  1.   precisely 02:38  |  apo 16/01/07
  2.   You can only hope so, huh Rosner 03:47  |  RW 16/01/07
  3.   iran war 04:13  |  navid 16/01/07
  4.   Iran and its containment 04:43  |  aesaac 16/01/07
  5.   Long Live Iran 04:47  |  Payam 16/01/07
  6.   America will always support Israel, but we won`t fight their wars 05:41  |  Devin Leonard 16/01/07
  7.   Ducks and Decoys 05:48  |  Devorah Judith Avram 16/01/07
  8.   long live IRAN 06:10  |  Lothar 16/01/07
  9.   US starts the war, Israeli and Iranian people will suffer 06:46  |  poor mideastern 16/01/07
  10.   AS FAR AS THE USA IS CONCERNED THE WAR WITH IRAN HAS NOT STARTED 07:10  |  PhiloEvraios 16/01/07
  11.   The Best Iran Can Do Is Saber Rattling 07:21  |  Kipperraes 16/01/07
  12.   Payam 07:34  |  Yosemite 16/01/07
  13.   Sorry folks, but he will do it. 08:14  |  Gordon 16/01/07
  14.   Bush will attack Iran 09:00  |  spyguy 16/01/07
  15.   Islamic Fascist State of Iran is an Enemy 09:27  |  Darren 16/01/07
  16.   Hands off Iran 09:47  |  David Howard 16/01/07
  17.   NO PEACE HERE 09:51  |  EDDY 16/01/07
  18.   Israeli wet dreams 10:19  |  Clickfool 16/01/07
  19.   The Saudis and Egyptians are anti- Iranian also 10:40  |  Shalom Freedman 16/01/07
  20.   #18 MORE BAD ADVIC E FROM CLIKKY 10:43  |  paul harris 16/01/07
  21.   I hope so 10:57  |  Enrique 16/01/07
  22.   For Paul Harris # 20 11:16  |  Clickfool 16/01/07
  23.   The mother of all questions (part 3) 11:34  |  Swiss (Dino) 16/01/07
  24.   America is too gutless to fight China... 11:40  |  Maureen Ann 16/01/07
  25.   Completion to my post # 23 11:52  |  Swiss (Dino) 16/01/07
  26.   The war with Iran started in Lebanon 12:00  |  Jonathan S 16/01/07
  27.   Clickfool 12:18  |  x 16/01/07
  28.   IT TAKES A GIANT TIME TO MOVE BUT 12:20  |  Robert 16/01/07
  29.   America is too gutless to fight China... 12:20  |  x 16/01/07
  30.   To Paul Harris about comparisons 12:25  |  Jonathan S 16/01/07
  31.   remember what one old Jew said ... 12:26  |  someoldyid 16/01/07
  32.   A CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER 12:31  |  indrajaya 16/01/07
  33.   Rosner`s bad poker hand 13:19  |  sicko 16/01/07
  34.   # 5 Payam 13:37  |  Lynn 16/01/07
  35.   Maureen Ann 14:01  |  Lynn 16/01/07
  36.   #18 Ah Click, I`m Back! 14:03  |  Yonatan Netser 16/01/07
  37.   War with Iran 14:11  |  Honest Israeli 16/01/07
  38.   Who Is The Agressor Here?? 14:45  |  Yaakov Sullivan 16/01/07
  39.   Honest Israeli: Don`t Count On It. 14:56  |  CHGODMK 16/01/07
  40.   Many knew this was coming . . . . 15:03  |  revoltop 16/01/07
  41.   Better than European appeasers. 15:22  |  Ian 16/01/07
  42.   One point Clickfool makes that is very true 15:28  |  Johnboy 16/01/07
  43.   America is cutting off the tentacles off Iran 15:43  |  Ronnie Wolman 16/01/07
  44.   PhiloEvaios - It has begun 16:02  |  Mark Lincoln 16/01/07
  45.   For Ronnie Wolman # 43 16:09  |  Clickfool 16/01/07
  46.   indrajaya "invaders of indonesia" 16:22  |  tommy suharto 16/01/07
  47.   Rosner Cum The Cowardly Lion In Oz 16:25  |  Victor Smolinsky 16/01/07
  48.   The USA: A Nation of Thumbsuckers 16:26  |  Tony Anthony 16/01/07
  49.   of indrajaya indonesians and palestinians 16:33  |  tommy suharto 16/01/07
  50.   47. well said, Victor ! 16:37  |  whoopwhoop 16/01/07
  51.   Fighting A War A-La-Bush 16:51  |  Tony Anthony 16/01/07
  52.   Clickfool:Its not about Iraq anymore 16:55  |  Ronnie Wolman 16/01/07
  53.   CHGODHK 17:16  |  Neal 16/01/07
  54.   # 51 War a la Bush 17:20  |  Lynn 16/01/07
  55.   # 8 Lothar 17:20  |  Daniel 16/01/07
  56.   Iran is choosing a collision course with the West. 17:27  |  Marwan مروان خوري 16/01/07
  57.   #48 Tony A Sucking alright . . . 17:34  |  revoltop 16/01/07
  58.   For Ronnie Wolman # 52 18:06  |  Clickfool 16/01/07
  59.   JONATHAN S 18:10  |  Lynn 16/01/07
  60.   Clickfool: How is Sussex? 18:17  |  Ronnie Wolman 16/01/07
  61.   Mideast Oil price down below $50 today 18:25  |  Michael Korn 16/01/07
  62.   Iran on US List of States Sponsoring Terrorism 18:32  |  Bruriah Sarah 16/01/07
  63.   TO CLICKFOOL FOR RESPONSE TO #22 18:38  |  Kipperraes 16/01/07
  64.   US: Iran is a Strategic Threat 18:38  |  Bruriah Sarah 16/01/07
  65.   Clickfool: Using Adjectives as Verbs? 18:45  |  Michael Korn 16/01/07
  66.   For Michael Kom on the oil price # 61 18:47  |  Clickfool 16/01/07
  67.   For Ronnie Wolman # 60 18:51  |  Clickfool 16/01/07
  68.   BETCHA, KIPPERRAES # 63 18:54  |  Clickfool 16/01/07
  69.   To Paul Harris on Etiquette 19:01  |  Persian Kitty 16/01/07
  70.   Click as usual your wrong 19:05  |  Kipperaes 16/01/07
  71.   Oil markets not . . . 19:12  |  revoltop 16/01/07
  72.   Clickophobia: Fear of Term, "A Little Knowledge Can Be Dangerous" 19:28  |  Peter 16/01/07
  73.   To Marwan Khouri 19:35  |  Persian Kitty 16/01/07
  74.   Clickfool: About oil prices 19:35  |  Michael Korn 16/01/07
  75.   For Michael Kom, an inaccurate pedant # 65 19:42  |  Clickfool 16/01/07
  76.   To Bruriah Sarah: not to worry, most Americans understand. 19:50  |  Aaron 16/01/07
  77.   The whole adventure in Iraq was a typo 19:51  |  Chris Linthwaite 16/01/07
  78.   For Kipperraes # 70 Part 1 19:54  |  Clickfool 16/01/07
  79.   For Kipperraes # 70 Part 2 20:04  |  Clickfool 16/01/07
  80.   to Chris Linthwaite 20:06  |  Persian Kitty 16/01/07
  81.   Answering Michael Korn # 74 20:09  |  Clickfool 16/01/07
  82.   response to Clickfool The Master Of Doom and Gloom 20:14  |  Kipperraes 16/01/07
  83.   #80 20:25  |  Chris Linthwaite 16/01/07
  84.   For Kipperraes # 82 20:27  |  Clickfool 16/01/07
  85.   #78. Hope You Were Pounding Your Shoe With This Post! 20:31  |  Peter 16/01/07
  86.   Lessons Learned 20:33  |  Persian Kitty 16/01/07
  87.   # 79 Clickfool 20:46  |  Lynn 16/01/07
  88.   MOSSAD!! 20:46  |  William 16/01/07
  89.   Chris Linthwaite 20:52  |  Persian Kitty 16/01/07
  90.   For Lynn # 87 20:58  |  Clickfool 16/01/07
  91.   To Lynn 21:01  |  Persian Kitty 16/01/07
  92.   No war with Iran 21:26  |  Tosefta 16/01/07
  93.   #88 You are a sick man 21:40  |  Michael Korn 16/01/07
  94.   Critics are living in the past 21:40  |  Brod 16/01/07
  95.   To Lynn about Iran’s war capabilities 21:44  |  Jonathan S 16/01/07
  96.   Tp Persian Kitty #91 21:44  |  Viv 16/01/07
  97.   the war will start the shia wil win it 21:46  |  shia 4 ever 16/01/07
  98.   Clickfool: IRA,HRA,FRA,HRA,IJRA 21:50  |  Ronnie Wolman 16/01/07
  99.   #26 Jonathan; aw, come on man, Lebanon??? 21:54  |  ballisticq 16/01/07
  100.   Shakespeare 21:54  |  Michael Korn 16/01/07
  101.   Persian Kitty #91 21:59  |  TonyL 16/01/07
  102.   #53 Neal--hey what news are you watching 22:02  |  ballistic 16/01/07
  103.   Persian Kitty, we love your people. Your rulers are terrorists. 22:06  |  Aaron 16/01/07
  104.   To Persian Kitty on CAPS and hate for Iran 22:27  |  Mark B. 16/01/07
  105.   to ClickPoop 22:32  |  Moishele 16/01/07
  106.   How Americans would respond to Iran war 22:32  |  Iranian-American 16/01/07
  107.   CLickfool #81 scales of justice? 22:35  |  albert amato 16/01/07
  108.   @106 Iranian-American; socialist USA! 22:54  |  Mark B. 16/01/07
  109.   Ronnie Wolman #43 - why are you beating the drums? 22:57  |  dana 16/01/07
  110.   AIPAC, Israel are anti-American - Part 2 to Wollman 23:13  |  dana 16/01/07
  111.   RE Neal wants the Draft back in United States 23:34  |  Pablo B 16/01/07
  112.   Its about time. 23:36  |  Dr. David I.Gross 16/01/07
  113.   # 91 Persian Kitty 23:37  |  Lynn 16/01/07
  114.   Ballistic 23:39  |  Neal 16/01/07
  115.   Jewish Iranian-NO.5 23:41  |  BO 16/01/07
  116.   # 96 Viv 23:41  |  Lynn 16/01/07
  117.   to loathsome Lothar 23:56  |  BO 16/01/07
  118.   #69 DEAR KITTY WHO WROTE THE RULES 00:03  |  paul harris 17/01/07
  119.   Pablo. Don`t ever speak for me. 00:06  |  Neal 17/01/07
  120.   Rosner, what`s the EXIT plan? 00:09  |  Pablo B 17/01/07
  121.   For Michael Korn # 100 00:11  |  Clickfool 17/01/07
  122.   Don`t underestimate America 00:14  |  bob pivarnick 17/01/07
  123.   Dana about the Iraq War 00:22  |  Tim 17/01/07
  124.   pablo 00:23  |  Neal 17/01/07
  125.   was it not the US that destabilized Iraq? 00:23  |  Edith 17/01/07
  126.   the ruling mullah is what made iran great 00:30  |  shia 4 ever 17/01/07
  127.   Lynn #116 re: Viv 00:35  |  TonyL 17/01/07
  128.   Neal #53 00:52  |  CHGODMK 17/01/07
  129.   Dana, your pathetic libel rings only in the ears of the ignorant 01:18  |  Aaron 17/01/07
  130.   Attacking iran 01:18  |  SAM 17/01/07
  131.   Sussex 01:28  |  Dan 17/01/07
  132.   an Clickfool tell me where to find "Zionist propaganda"? 01:38  |  Mireya Fuentes 17/01/07
  133.   For Clickfool and all you other Israel bashers 01:45  |  ChanahS 17/01/07
  134.   To Kipperaes 01:47  |  Neutered Observer. 17/01/07
  135.   To Lynn 01:59  |  Persian Kitty 17/01/07
  136.   # 119 Edith 02:01  |  Lynn 17/01/07
  137.   To Lynn (cont`d) 02:12  |  Persian Kitty 17/01/07
  138.   Dana: Champagne Apologists 02:18  |  Ronnie Wolman 17/01/07
  139.   To the ungrateful BO, re: No. 5 02:32  |  Persian Kitty 17/01/07
  140.   to 95 jonathan s. 02:58  |  jean luc-bisson 17/01/07
  141.   120. good question pablo 03:02  |  whoopwhoop 17/01/07
  142.   Dan: Israel doesnt need the US to take care of Iran 03:05  |  Ronnie Wolman 17/01/07
  143.   #120 Pablo B - exactly right 03:07  |  Johnboy 17/01/07
  144.   the new word for Israel 03:09  |  hmmmmmm 17/01/07
  145.   Irans Response 03:15  |  Dan 17/01/07
  146.   # 135 Persian Kitty 03:33  |  Lynn 17/01/07
  147.   #109-110, Dana 03:34  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 17/01/07
  148.   120 Pablo B - What Exit Plan? 03:35  |  Mark of Lewiston 17/01/07
  149.   Persian Kitty (con`t) 03:52  |  Lynn 17/01/07
  150.   TO RONNIE WOLMAN # 43 03:57  |  Mireya Fuentes 17/01/07
  151.   good answer whoopwhoop 04:14  |  george 17/01/07
  152.   To Clickfool, # 67 04:19  |  Olga Varonin 17/01/07
  153.   Neal #124 04:23  |  CHGODMK 17/01/07
  154.   Answering Clickfool # 81 04:44  |  Grace 17/01/07
  155.   Has Anybody Heard How Amadjihadi`s Controller... 04:50  |  Klaudia 17/01/07
  156.   Mireya Fuentes:Democracy will not fail to these tin pot dictators 05:04  |  Ronnie Wolman 17/01/07
  157.   I hope it will soon 05:23  |  Gil 17/01/07
  158.   Time To Crush The Mullahs 05:23  |  Iran Will Shine 17/01/07
  159.   Ball back to Wollman 05:24  |  dana 17/01/07
  160.   The war with Iran 05:27  |  Andre Daie 17/01/07
  161.   Dana:Iraq might turn out to be a blessing 05:51  |  Ronnie Wolman 17/01/07
  162.   Iran will shine: People and their Government 05:59  |  Ronnie Wolman 17/01/07
  163.   A deck full of jokers 06:00  |  Mark Lincoln 17/01/07
  164.   Cipora going on hyperbole again 06:04  |  dana 17/01/07
  165.   How it looks to the world 06:04  |  Mark Lincoln 17/01/07
  166.   Iran Will Shine!!!! 06:10  |  Aaron 17/01/07
  167.   On Russian and Chinese interests 06:28  |  dana 17/01/07
  168.   Dana And The Iraq War 06:31  |  Tim 17/01/07
  169.   Question: Can Iran be considered suicidal? 06:34  |  alain 17/01/07
  170.   Tim- not all neocons are Jews and vice versa 07:16  |  dana 17/01/07
  171.   Iraq and Iran`s House of Cards 07:50  |  HonestAbe 17/01/07
  172.   to Dana on what Russians n Chinese want 08:45  |  Anubhav 17/01/07
  173.   The free world has to confront Iran to stop the spread of the 08:56  |  Marwan مروان خوري 17/01/07
  174.   to Persian Kitty on ungrateful Jews in Iran 08:56  |  Anubhav 17/01/07
  175.   The need to stop Iran before it`s too late. 09:14  |  Marwan مروان خوري 17/01/07
  176.   Mark Lincoln on how it looks to the world 09:17  |  Anubhav 17/01/07
  177.   For Grace in Santa Barbara # 154 09:33  |  Clickfool 17/01/07
  178.   For Marwan # 173 09:36  |  Clickfool 17/01/07
  179.   Marwan, Iran wont attack Israel 10:11  |  Anubhav 17/01/07
  180.   The Great Click-appeaser strikes again. Hate for Israel keeping 10:21  |  Marwan مروان خوري 17/01/07
  181.   For Marwan # 180 11:13  |  Clickfool 17/01/07
  182.   Impose a no fly zone 13:13  |  arun 17/01/07
  183.   181# Clickfool. A Littele Bit History 13:41  |  Arik 17/01/07
  184.   Bibi here....Of course! 15:24  |  Benjamin 17/01/07
  185.   Neocon and jewish identity 15:36  |  francois 17/01/07
  186.   The Third World War, sadly! 16:25  |  Vernon 17/01/07
  187.   165# Mark Lincoln,America & Dinosaurs. 17:15  |  Akram Zekaria 17/01/07
  188.   responding to Ronnie Wolman # 156 17:52  |  Mireya Fuentes 17/01/07
  189.   Dare to dream Rosner 18:07  |  Benny Wise 17/01/07
  190.   To Clickfool # 157 18:09  |  Grace 17/01/07
  191.   CHGODMK #128. 18:34  |  Neal 17/01/07
  192.   Loathing Isreal 19:02  |  SAM 17/01/07
  193.   Reminding Clickfool of his roots 19:06  |  Michael Korn 17/01/07
  194.   attacking iran 19:10  |  sam 17/01/07
  195.   has war with iran started? 19:27  |  edwin camilleri 17/01/07
  196.   For Mireya Fuentes # 132 19:38  |  Clickfool 17/01/07
  197.   For Grace, who calls me an anti-semite # 190 19:49  |  Clickfool 17/01/07
  198.   For Michael Korn # 193 20:00  |  Clickfool 17/01/07
  199.   Clickfool According To Your Definition Of Zionism 20:59  |  Yosemite 17/01/07
  200.   where are the Democrats? 21:02  |  Dan Osterman 17/01/07
  201.   To Francois, #185 -Thanks for the info 21:39  |  dana 17/01/07
  202.   January 16, 2007: Escalation Against Iran 22:05  |  Arik 17/01/07
  203.   # 198 clickfool 22:42  |  Lynn 17/01/07
  204.   Democrats are busy 22:46  |  Lynn 17/01/07
  205.   yosemite valley 23:16  |  Bobac 17/01/07
  206.   #200 What exactly would you like the Dems to do??? 01:12  |  ballistic 18/01/07
  207.   #204 what do you want the dems to do? 01:14  |  ballistic 18/01/07
  208.   Rosner, you`ll know when the USA has decided on war 01:35  |  Johnboy 18/01/07
  209.   Dana & Neo-Cons 02:31  |  whoopwhoop 18/01/07
  210.   To Clickfool # 196 on what he terms "Zionist Propaganda" 06:03  |  Mireya Fuentes 18/01/07
  211.   How does the Russian TOR system fit in the picture? 06:12  |  Amparo Saa 18/01/07
  212.   War with Iran? Ha! Ha! Ha! 15:57  |  Andre 18/01/07
  213.   211. the TOR 16:15  |  sicko 18/01/07
  214.   210. Zionist propaganda 16:18  |  whoopsie 18/01/07
  215.   to Dana 201 I beg to differ! 16:43  |  francois 18/01/07
  216.   Andre Huh????? 19:16  |  Yosemite 18/01/07
  217.   Dominance 22:31  |  Bader Abu-Ghosh 18/01/07
  218.   @ alain Yes at least 20.000 it had been reported.. 22:39  |  Karl 18/01/07
  219.   The U.S. will not attack Iran 23:56  |  Geoff 18/01/07
  220.   # 212 Andre the hopeful 04:31  |  Lynn 19/01/07
  221.   # 207 ballistic 04:50  |  Lynn 19/01/07
  222.   # 217 Dominance 04:56  |  Lynn 19/01/07
  223.   # 169 Suiciders 05:03  |  Lynn 19/01/07
  224.   # 219 The US 05:13  |  Lynn 19/01/07
  225.   US should attack Iran 06:06  |  Sherri 19/01/07
  226.   #225 US should attack Iran 09:45  |  Sam 19/01/07
  227.   Not US will, Iran will attack US 11:44  |  Jonathan S 19/01/07
  228.   One thing seems certain: 13:23  |  Michael A. Shoemaker 19/01/07
  229.   prepare for the summer war 15:43  |  croissant 19/01/07
  230.   ** NO MORE WARS FOR ISRAEL ** GOT IT? 17:04  |  Josh Shapiro 19/01/07
  231.   the war with iran 10:04  |  Shmuelshachor 21/01/07
  232.   Enemies 02:59  |  Bobac 25/01/07
  233.   ask a real question get a real answer 09:06  |  hazar 19/12/08


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