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Posted: January 09, 2007

The General and the 'money people'

1. A couple of months ago I was contacted by someone working on behalf of Wesley Clark. He had just read something I wrote about the general and he wasn't happy.

This is what I wrote:

"Last Monday, in the Dirksen Senate Office Building, General Wesley Clark (Ret.) ascended the dais to give a speech at a small convention on the "real" State of the Union 2006. On the face of it, it was a frank, gloves-off speech without the glitz and spin of the official State of the Union Speech made annually by the president to Congress, which took place on Tuesday. Only on the face of it, however, since it was obvious that Clark, the keynote speaker, still dreams of being president one day. His rather ingenuous 2004 bid for the Democratic Party's nomination did not take away his taste for the race, and his speech showed it."

The man, as I said, wasn't happy. Why are you against him? he asked. I promised that I wasn't, which was true. Back then.

2. In our Israel Factor, the monthly ranking of potential Presidential nominees, Clark got somewhat mediocre marks, but was not among those who were evidently out of favor. Take a look at the marks he got in the first four surveys and you'll see him somewhere in the middle. Is the candidate likely to change his position after the election, we asked, and the panel said, again, that he wasn't among those most likely to do so.

3. The panel was right. Why change after the election when you can do it before the race has begun? Yesterday, an interview with Clark was published that makes him look pretty bad. Tired of using the word anti-Semitic, I'll just say that he seemed, well, angry.

4. For those of you who didn't read the Clark interview in the Huffington Post, here it is:

Clark is talking about the possibility of military action against Iran:

"How can you talk about bombing a country when you won't even talk to them?" said Clark. "It's outrageous. We're the United States of America; we don't do that. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the military option is off the table - but diplomacy is not what Jim Baker says it is. It's not, 'what will it take for you boys to support us on Iraq?' It's sitting down for a couple of days and talking about our families and our hopes, and building relationships."

When we asked him what made him so sure the Bush administration was headed in this direction, he replied: "You just have to read what's in the Israeli press. The Jewish community is divided, but there is so much pressure being channeled from the New York money people to the office seekers."

4. Gee, what can he possibly mean by "pressure being channeled from the New York money people"?

5. Two aspects of these ramblings I find worthy of comment. First: how and why has it become so easy to speak in this way about the Jews? Second: What does it mean politically?

6. It is, actually, rather troubling, even scary. People in elite circles somehow came to the conclusion that denouncing the Jewish community and its support for Israel is now becoming acceptable. Walt and Mersheimer came first, then former president Carter, now Clark - and we already have a new trend on our hands. A Jewish leader with whom I spoke yesterday asked me this most disquieting question: Is the ice thinner than one might have thought?

7. Politically, it is voices coming from the Democratic party, again, a nuance that the Republican Jewish Coalition could hardly miss. Yesterday, it released a statement "strongly condemned 'blatantly anti-semitic' remarks made by Retired General Wesley Clark in an interview with Arianna Huffington and urged the Democrat presidential aspirant to apologize... This is yet another sign that the veiled and not-so-veiled anti-Semitic sentiments that are rampant in the left-wing blogosphere are seeping into the 'mainstream' of Democrats' political discourse."

Now, we all know this is partisan politics. But what can we say? Facts are facts.

"It's a sign that pro-Israel sentiment is not as strong in Democratic politics as it used to be," writes Michael Barone in his blog. Democratic leaders have already distanced themselves from Carter's book and statements on Israel. What will they do now, distance themselves again? Will Hillary Clinton, the New York nominee, distance herself from a man who was her husband's protégé?

8. In early 2004, I met Clark in New Hampshire as he made his rounds to win the hearts and minds of potential voters. We chatted for ten minutes in a coffee shop - it was unplanned, I was sitting there and he just entered. When he heard I was from Israel he immediately jumped with the story, familiar to all by then, of his Jewish roots. I'm willing to bet he is going to use this again as he attempts clarifies the remarks he made.

Note: Some corrections were made to this article after it was already posted.

  1.   Clark 18:35  |  Holly 09/01/07
  2.   Clark 22:40  |  Sharon 09/01/07
  3.   I didn`t read it that way 22:57  |  ljm 09/01/07
  4.   Sharon 23:52  |  Caliguy 09/01/07
  5.   Rankings 23:58  |  Caliguy 09/01/07
  6.   The General and the `money people` 00:00  |  Madeline Meyers 10/01/07
  7.   AIPAC the largest lobbyist? 00:29  |  sg 10/01/07
  8.   Like it is 00:45  |  Stan Davis 10/01/07
  9.   AIPAC 00:48  |  Caliguy 10/01/07
  10.   Clark`s remarks in Huffington Post 01:13  |  DeadMessengers 10/01/07
  11.   Wes Clark 01:14  |  David Hernandez 10/01/07
  12.   I didn`t read it that way, either 01:23  |  Debbie 10/01/07
  13.   the general & the money people 01:24  |  whl 10/01/07
  14.   Attacking Iran? 01:25  |  CarolG 10/01/07
  15.   sg 01:45  |  sharon 10/01/07
  16.   Clark 02:04  |  Seth 10/01/07
  17.   Ariana=its all about me 02:29  |  Haypops 10/01/07
  18.   hypocricy and money 02:35  |  Miriam 10/01/07
  19.   Sharon #15 02:44  |  Caliguy 10/01/07
  20.   Wes Clark writes a clarification 03:34  |  ljm 10/01/07
  21.   Behave Children, Or The AIPAC Will Get You 03:48  |  Tony Anthony 10/01/07
  22.   There is no Jewish lobby 04:05  |  jordan 10/01/07
  23.   AIPAC 04:15  |  Sharon 10/01/07
  24.   Hypocrisy 04:18  |  Sharon` 10/01/07
  25.   general clark`s money comment 04:21  |  a general supporter 10/01/07
  26.   RE: AIPAC (to Caliguy) 04:21  |  Philosopher 10/01/07
  27.   #19, Caliguy 04:31  |  Hannah 10/01/07
  28.   Wes Clark 04:40  |  Al 10/01/07
  29.   How to win friends and influence people 04:41  |  Galgal Ha-Khozer 10/01/07
  30.   the general 05:35  |  Shmuelshachor 10/01/07
  31.   The Oil Lobby 05:51  |  Caliguy 10/01/07
  32.   AIPAC 05:58  |  shep 10/01/07
  33.   Hannah 06:04  |  Caliguy 10/01/07
  34.   Rosner is clueless 06:23  |  Devin Leonard 10/01/07
  35.   Shep 06:25  |  Caliguy 10/01/07
  36.   #33, Caliguy 06:27  |  Hannah 10/01/07
  37.   Re: Rosner is clueless 06:45  |  Jael 10/01/07
  38.   WESLEY KANNE (KOHEN) "CLARK" IS A TRAGIC FIGURE 06:56  |  PhiloEvraios 10/01/07
  39.   To numbers 29 and 30 07:01  |  ljm 10/01/07
  40.   AIPAC as a foreign agency 07:25  |  robin 10/01/07
  41.   Regarding the I-sold-my-soul-in-the-company-store, Schmuel Rosner 07:49  |  Hannah 10/01/07
  42.   #39, ljm 07:52  |  Hannah 10/01/07
  43.   Not Surprising 08:18  |  Tod Zuckerman 10/01/07
  44.   what ye sow shall ye also reap 09:22  |  samos 10/01/07
  45.   Wake up, Tod 09:30  |  Jael 10/01/07
  46.   New York Money People 09:52  |  ms in la 10/01/07
  47.   To #38 10:25  |  Ron Esquerra 10/01/07
  48.   Rosner as usual off the mark... 10:33  |  Richard Silverstein 10/01/07
  49.   Maybe because it`s true 10:35  |  Colin Wright 10/01/07
  50.   wesley clark surprise 10:41  |  flashman 10/01/07
  51.   An interesting equation 10:46  |  Colin Wright 10/01/07
  52.   Sad consequences of the one-opinion "dictatorship" in the U.S. 10:46  |  Swiss (Dino) 10/01/07
  53.   To #50 flashman 10:55  |  ms in la 10/01/07
  54.   Crying wolf... 10:58  |  Jack 10/01/07
  55.   The Money quote: 10:59  |  ms in la 10/01/07
  56.   America getting free of Israel 11:07  |  Michael 10/01/07
  57.   Typical AIPAC/Zionist "Anti-Semite!" croaking from a Rosner 11:10  |  szlevi 10/01/07
  58.   2nd YES! RE: AIPAC the largest lobbyist? 11:21  |  szlevi 10/01/07
  59.   Rosner is, for once, right 11:26  |  dana 10/01/07
  60.   Excalibur 11:28  |  Bill 10/01/07
  61.   To Caliguy 11:36  |  dana 10/01/07
  62.   Hannah 11:40  |  Sarah 10/01/07
  63.   ms from la 11:44  |  flashman 10/01/07
  64.   HE HAS A WIT AS A COMMANDER 11:45  |  indrajaya 10/01/07
  65.   ms from la 11:47  |  flashman 10/01/07
  66.   Reply to Swiss Dino (Post No. 52) 12:36  |  Johnny Weintraub 10/01/07
  67.   Flashman (Post No. 50) 13:06  |  Johnny Weintraub 10/01/07
  68.   anti-semitic 13:08  |  albert paul ortiz 10/01/07
  69.   Correction to my post # 52 13:47  |  Swiss (Dino) 10/01/07
  70.   Wes Clark`s supreme "achievement" 13:53  |  Pilly 10/01/07
  71.   Wesley Clark tells the truth. Israel confirms it! 13:59  |  Toronto`s Finest 10/01/07
  72.   # 66 Johnny Weintraub 14:01  |  Swiss (Dino) 10/01/07
  73.   Clark is half Jewish 14:03  |  SD 10/01/07
  74.   Change of Wind in America 14:04  |  Alicia 10/01/07
  75.   Bibi also confirms that Clark speaks the truth 14:06  |  Toronto`s Finest 10/01/07
  76.   Shmuel, if your assertion about the comment is correct, then 14:23  |  Smadar 10/01/07
  77.   SMADAR REITERATE STHE TIRESOME OF 86 YEARS 15:28  |  paul harris 10/01/07
  78.   Clark is a Jew 15:32  |  Smee 10/01/07
  79.   Swiss (Dino) Post 72 15:42  |  Johnny Weintraub 10/01/07
  80.   Jews and money 15:43  |  Wendy 10/01/07
  81.   No, Clark is a Baptist 15:43  |  Tim 10/01/07
  82.   Smee 15:44  |  CHGODMK 10/01/07
  83.   Rosner just pimping the AIPAC line 15:49  |  Mark Lincoln 10/01/07
  84.   # 79 Johnny Weintraub 15:57  |  Swiss (Dino) 10/01/07
  85.   johnny weintraub 16:26  |  flashman 10/01/07
  86.   What I dont understand about Americans 16:26  |  Danite 10/01/07
  87.   shmuel rosner i sympathise 16:29  |  flashman 10/01/07
  88.   It Doesn`t Mean Anything! 16:36  |  Yosemite 10/01/07
  89.   Wesley Clark 16:46  |  Geoff 10/01/07
  90.   #75 THE ONLY PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGN IN THE US IS WALMARTS 17:01  |  paul harris 10/01/07
  91.   Clark 17:28  |  Brod 10/01/07
  92.   Israel is Not Above Criticism 17:29  |  Wiseone 10/01/07
  93.   52 Swiss - Confusing Your McCarthys 17:35  |  Mark of Lewiston 10/01/07
  94.   #92 oh wiseone? 17:51  |  albert amato 10/01/07
  95.   # 93 Mark of Lewiston 17:58  |  Swiss (Dino) 10/01/07
  96.   Bradley might be jumping to conclusions 18:05  |  Stephen Connor 10/01/07
  97.   Mark Lincoln just pimping? 18:05  |  Jacob Blues 10/01/07
  98.   Rosner not Bursten 18:07  |  Stephen Connor 10/01/07
  99.   pimping and mark lincoln 18:09  |  izzy 10/01/07
  100.   For those who need the less than subtle point 18:12  |  Jacob Blues 10/01/07
  101.   95 Swiss (Dino) - Bibi`s Success 18:15  |  Mark of Lewiston 10/01/07
  102.   He is not an antisemite, he simply describes reality 18:15  |  Adam Keller 10/01/07
  103.   #102 PERHAPS ADAM THE SUPPORT OF ISRAEL IS ACTUALLY OFFICIAL US P 18:48  |  paul harris 10/01/07
  104.   Wesley Clark`s father was Jewish not him..still not an anti-semit 19:05  |  albert amato 10/01/07
  105.   # 101 Mark of Lewiston 19:21  |  Swiss (Dino) 10/01/07
  106.   to Adam Keller #102 `He is not an antisemite` 20:17  |  Colin Wright 10/01/07
  107.   Rosner at it yet again #2 20:34  |  Michael N 10/01/07
  108.   Adam Keller richly butressed by the EU calls "Wolf!" 21:01  |  Absolute Sweden 10/01/07
  109.   Let us not speak of the money people. 21:30  |  Billy Jack 10/01/07
  110.   Is there ranking system here? 21:38  |  Billy Jack 10/01/07
  111.   Jacob blues 21:47  |  Billy Jack 10/01/07
  112.   #81 - Tim in Toronto 21:54  |  Jane 10/01/07
  113.   What did he mean? 21:56  |  Don 10/01/07
  114.   thin ice 22:05  |  tadchase 10/01/07
  115.   flashman 22:07  |  ms in la 10/01/07
  116.   #102 Calling him an antisemite will not make this reality go away 22:12  |  hollingsworth 10/01/07
  117.   CLARK 22:23  |  Issy Hass 10/01/07
  118.   #52, Dino 22:23  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 10/01/07
  119.   #86, Danite 22:25  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 10/01/07
  120.   Swiss (dino) Mark of Lewiston 22:29  |  Danite 10/01/07
  121.   Clark 22:32  |  Issy Hass 10/01/07
  122.   anti-Israel is acceptable 22:42  |  JW 10/01/07
  123.   #76, Smadar 22:49  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 10/01/07
  124.   One Third of the Jewish Population in NY 23:07  |  Eli 10/01/07
  125.   Wes Clarkl 23:12  |  Charles 10/01/07
  126.   122 - That is what Hitler said 23:12  |  Bruriah Sarah 10/01/07
  127.   Cipora Hello 23:23  |  Danite 10/01/07
  128.   We? Billy Jack? 23:34  |  Jacob Blues 10/01/07
  129.   Glad to see where your political priorities are, Hollingsworth 23:36  |  Jacob Blues 10/01/07
  130.   they are against Jews making money. 23:38  |  hollingsworth 10/01/07
  131.   To #89 23:40  |  Rod 10/01/07
  132.   # 120 Danite 23:56  |  Swiss (Dino) 10/01/07
  133.   # 118 Cipora Julianna Kohn 00:04  |  Swiss (Dino) 11/01/07
  134.   Hollingsworth, Clark is half Jewish 00:13  |  Jake 11/01/07
  135.   Issy...different Clark!! 00:21  |  ljm 11/01/07
  136.   to General Supporter 00:46  |  Dan 11/01/07
  137.   Jewish Heritage Trivia 00:47  |  Barney 11/01/07
  138.   #77 Paul Harris, what do you mean by tiresome 86 years? 00:49  |  Smadar 11/01/07
  139.   #123 Cipora, we don`t hear about these terrorist activities 00:55  |  Smadar 11/01/07
  140.   #8 enjoyed your post 00:57  |  ballistic 11/01/07
  141.   Fuss About Nothing 01:08  |  Wiseone 11/01/07
  142.   And to think I respected this man 01:16  |  RA 11/01/07
  143.   accept wild and unproven facts 01:21  |  Schtarker Yid 11/01/07
  144.   #139, smadar 01:44  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 11/01/07
  145.   #127, Danite 01:51  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 11/01/07
  146.   Swiss Dino 01:52  |  Danite 11/01/07
  147.   Barney, you assume wrong 02:07  |  Jael 11/01/07
  148.   Wesley Clark 02:36  |  Dave 11/01/07
  149.   Hollingsworth a "leftist"? 02:38  |  FOX 11/01/07
  150.   #122, this isn`t about image 02:48  |  mike g 11/01/07
  151.   Wesley Clark 02:55  |  Alex 11/01/07
  152.   Who are the "NY money people"? 03:49  |  Manny 11/01/07
  153.   CLARK 04:00  |  JOJO 11/01/07
  154.   The Gen. is anti-_________? 04:21  |  Manny 11/01/07
  155.   mike g: underdog status really helped us in Germany 04:35  |  Aaron 11/01/07
  156.   Free Speech 05:04  |  J Olsen 11/01/07
  157.   general Clarks comments 05:39  |  Warren Casleton 11/01/07
  158.   #122 JW replies to comments directed to me 05:52  |  JW 11/01/07
  159.   WESLEY CLARK`S TERRIBLE BEHAVIOR & FORCED RETIREMENT IN 2002 05:52  |  PhiloEvraios 11/01/07
  160.   Mike G #150 05:58  |  JW 11/01/07
  161.   to # 32 comments about AIPAC 06:54  |  Shmuelshachor 11/01/07
  162.   Wesley Clark 07:09  |  Charles Frith 11/01/07
  163.   Dear Manny # 154 YOU SAID IT ALL 07:14  |  Eli 11/01/07
  164.   120 Hello Danite 07:32  |  Mark of Lewiston 11/01/07
  165.   a great general. 08:36  |  nehemia dB 11/01/07
  166.   RA, that`s false 08:38  |  ljm 11/01/07
  167.   #40, AIPAC does not support US Interests at all 11:49  |  Les 11/01/07
  168.   NY Money People 12:15  |  Emahl 11/01/07
  169.   To SHARON 12:38  |  Josue 11/01/07
  170.   Wes Clark probably didnt mean it 12:51  |  JW 11/01/07
  171.   Hi Eli - am I an anti-semite too? 14:24  |  dana 11/01/07
  172.   to #46 Re KEITH murdoch 14:36  |  ROB OF MELBOURNE AUS 11/01/07
  173.   So what you`re saying Les is that you want a Dictatorship 16:40  |  Jacob Blues 11/01/07
  174.   HI Dana #171 - I don`t know 19:03  |  Eli 11/01/07
  175.   Money People 23:28  |  P. J. Casey 11/01/07
  176.   Dana 00:53  |  FOX 12/01/07
  177.   Gen Clark 01:55  |  Yariv 12/01/07
  178.   Rob of Melbourne 03:08  |  ms in la 12/01/07
  179.   #161 03:27  |  JOJO 12/01/07
  180.   Anti-Semitic 04:23  |  Bob 12/01/07
  181.   To Bob - irrelevant 13:08  |  JW 12/01/07
  182.   FOX - my position is clear 13:19  |  dana 12/01/07
  183.   Bob and the rest of the Podunk bunch 13:30  |  JW 12/01/07
  184.   New Jork Money People 17:03  |  MGB 12/01/07
  185.   Please this is not anti-semitism 00:47  |  MC 13/01/07
  186.   Chula Vista #2 06:37  |  Tom Mitchell 13/01/07
  187.   Rosner - pls enlighten yourself - Boring!! 18:15  |  Student of Man 27/01/07
  188.   Re: Clark 04:10  |  Mike 29/01/07


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