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Posted: December 20, 2006

Is Carter an anti-Semite?

Is Carter an anti-Semite?

Notes and thoughts on the question that's being pondered all around the American Jewish world: well, is he?



1.

First, about the question: What I chose to ask at the top of this piece is not merely a provocative headline meant to draw the attention of angry talk-backers. It is a question that is now being discussed around every corner and in the halls of every gathering of the American Jewish community. I keep hearing about people who debate this question, and was a witness to more than one such occasion. Is it a legitimate question? Does it make the Jews look paranoid? Should one even ponder the idea of a former President as an anti-Semite? While I'm not sure what the answers to all those questions are, I am sure that they are already out there.

2.

The Anti Defamation League was the most visible organization to argue publicly that Carter was getting to a point in which one could call him an anti-Semite. Abe Foxman, always first to recognize the issue of the day among his fellow Jews, wrote to Carter that "In both your book and in your many television and print interviews you have been feeding into conspiracy theories about excessive Jewish power and control. Considering the history of anti-Semitism, even in our great country, this is very dangerous stuff."

3.

But Foxman is not the only one that thinks Carter was getting there. Last Friday, at the reception for Natan Sharanski in the Israeli Embassy, I was surprised to hear the same argument from some people - Americans - who attended and debated Carter's motivations. One of them said that he "never thought Carter was anti-Semitic," but that now he feels that Carter is "trying to rally Christians against Jews." Somebody else told me that he thought "the true Carter is coming out now" and explained this by hinting that people "when they get older, tend to reveal what they really think."

4.

In his widely publicized and highly criticized letter to 'Jewish citizens of America' Carter denied allegations that he blamed American Jews for the media bias against the Palestinians. Carter wrote that the overwhelming bias for Israel comes from the Christian community. Do you believe that this is what he really meant? One is indeed justified if one chooses to be somewhat suspicious. Look at the things he wrote in the L.A Times: "It would be almost politically suicidal for members of Congress to espouse a balanced position between Israel and Palestine...What is even more difficult to comprehend is why the editorial pages of the major newspapers and magazines in the United States exercise similar self-restraint...Book reviews in the mainstream media have been written mostly by representatives of Jewish organizations...?

5.

When Carter was on C-span to talk about the book, a caller accused him of being an anti-Semite (you can join the many who watched their exchange on U-Tube here) and was quickly stopped by the host (Hey, where's this Jewish guy who controls the media when we really need him?). However, Carter wanted to answer the caller, and what he basically said is this: All I've been doing for last 20 years is to try and bring peace to Israel.

6.

I called Kenneth Stein today to ask about Carter. Stein is the Emory University Professor who resigned from the Carter Center after being a member for many years, following the publication of the book. Is he an anti-Semite, I asked about Carter whom stein knows well. "I've never encountered an anti-Semitic word coming from his mouth in the many hours we spent together," he said. He has no proof with which to justify such claims about Carter.

7.

And what makes a person an anti-Semite anyway? This is the question that no one is able to answer in a coherent way, especially when it comes to the more modern phenomenon of channeling anti-Semitism through criticism of Israel. In The fine line between hatred of Jews and political opposition to Israel, the State Department's first envoy for monitoring and combating anti-Semitism, Gregg Rickman, talked about the problematic nature of such definitions: "Where does the line fall between hatred of Jews and political opposition to, or even hatred of, Israel? Rickman knows that in Israeli eyes, the difference is minimal. Everyone is particularly sensitive when they are the ones being criticized, Rickman said, adding that some people consider anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism to be the same thing. He will need to come up with criteria to determine what is permissible and what is forbidden, what is anti-Semitic and what is just political when it comes to Israel."

8.

Marty Peretz of the New Republic wrote about Carter that "he will go down in history: as a Jew hater." The reason: "He almost never has a sympathetic or empathetic word to say about the Jewish state. O.K., he doesn't say that the Jews killed Jesus. But if anybody else is killed in the area it is the fault of the Israelis." So what makes Carter anti-Semitic: The more subtle allegations of an American Jewish conspiracy that's preventing criticism (the ADL line)? Or his insistence to blame Israel for all that's wrong in the Middle East? (the Peretz line)

9.

It's interesting to compare the case of Carter to the one of Walt and Mersheimer. When Eliot Cohen explained in the Post why he thought those two were anti-Semitic, he argued that "If by anti-Semitism one means obsessive and irrationally hostile beliefs about Jews; if one accuses them of disloyalty, subversion or treachery, of having occult powers and of participating in secret combinations that manipulate institutions and governments; if one systematically selects everything unfair, ugly or wrong about Jews as individuals or a group and equally systematically suppresses any exculpatory information -- why, yes, this paper is anti-Semitic."

10.

Apply the Eliot Cohen test to Carter and the results are mixed:

A. Obsessive and irrationally hostile beliefs about Jews: About Israelis - most of them Jews - yes, but does it count?
B. Accuses them of disloyalty, subversion or treachery: Not in Carter's book or appearances.
C. Having occult powers and participating in secret combinations that manipulate institutions and governments: As Foxman noted, Carter came close, but wasn't as detailed and as blatant as Walt-Mersheimer.
D. Systematically selects everything unfair, ugly or wrong about Jews as individuals or a group: If you count Israel as a "group" of (mostly) Jews - then, yes, Carter might be blamed for that.
E. Suppresses any exculpatory information: Oh, yes he does.

11.

Can we conclude by saying that Carter is not as anti-Semitic as Walt-Mersheimer? (He is a former President, though, so any trace of anti-Semitism in his case is much more important).

  1.   Carter anti semitic? 00:09  |  Keitner 21/12/06
  2.   Is Carter an anti-Semite? 00:22  |  n_erber 21/12/06
  3.   Typical Israeli, You bite the hand that fed you. 00:29  |  emad matahin 21/12/06
  4.   and now for something completely different 00:40  |  Avi Newman 21/12/06
  5.   gre2375 01:56  |  Grigoriy Mendelson 21/12/06
  6.   Carter 02:22  |  Ant 21/12/06
  7.   Pres.Carter 02:31  |  C.Greencoat 21/12/06
  8.   Meh. He just wants Israel to give more. 02:43  |  Philo-Semite 21/12/06
  9.   Is Pope a Catholic? 02:49  |  Asylum Aleikum 21/12/06
  10.   gee, if eliot cohen and marty peretz say so.. 03:19  |  ju 21/12/06
  11.   The ultimate opportunist 03:20  |  Nathaniel 21/12/06
  12.   Who cares 03:28  |  Dennis Loh 21/12/06
  13.   Carter deserves his Nobel Peace Prize... 03:33  |  Dave Burger 21/12/06
  14.   I Pondered This Question Before 03:55  |  Yosemite Sam 21/12/06
  15.   Is Carter`s book factual? 04:44  |  Steve Cammarata 21/12/06
  16.   Carter 04:48  |  Connie 21/12/06
  17.   President Carter speaks the truth 05:02  |  Dror 21/12/06
  18.   Paranoic lunacy 05:06  |  David Howard 21/12/06
  19.   Standup and take criticism as a man 05:11  |  Baz Mann 21/12/06
  20.   West Bank Apartheid, the shoe fits 06:28  |  Seymour 21/12/06
  21.   CARTER AND "ETHNICALLY PURE" PEOPLE 06:44  |  PhiloEvraios 21/12/06
  22.   Jimmy`s LONG standing Jew hating 06:46  |  Martin O`Leary 21/12/06
  23.   Carter the Antisemite 06:51  |  Freddy Mintz 21/12/06
  24.   One who hates Jews is a Jew-Hater! Does Carter 07:34  |  Vittorio 21/12/06
  25.   Hah! 08:01  |  Yosemite Sam 21/12/06
  26.   Provide a precise and exact definition please 08:12  |  Natallie Durson 21/12/06
  27.   Pres. Carter has high values! 08:26  |  Jews for peace 21/12/06
  28.   Baz Mann 08:39  |  Connie 21/12/06
  29.   Reads like a teeny-bopper mag 08:43  |  will 21/12/06
  30.   Natallie You Defend Iranian Nukes! 09:49  |  Yosemite Sam 21/12/06
  31.   Anti-Semitic 10:11  |  Neil 21/12/06
  32.   Neil, When That Term Was Invented, It Didn`t Cover Arabs! 10:19  |  Yosemite Sam 21/12/06
  33.   David Howard, Post No. 18 10:24  |  Johnny Weintraub 21/12/06
  34.   Not anti-Jewish, is a left-wing moral relativist 10:29  |  Gil J. Yashar 21/12/06
  35.   Carter certainly is an anti-semite 10:35  |  Clickfool 21/12/06
  36.   Not intentionally, just ignorantly 10:38  |  David Teich 21/12/06
  37.   Dumb Question 10:40  |  Liz Biggin 21/12/06
  38.   carter is anti semitic 10:41  |  salah al din 21/12/06
  39.   Sure he is 10:42  |  Archangel 21/12/06
  40.   Standard misdirection from Yosemite Sam # 30 10:45  |  Clickfool 21/12/06
  41.   natallie durson "count me in" 10:46  |  david elazar 21/12/06
  42.   `Anti-Semitism` is A Non Concept 10:47  |  Rowan Berkeley 21/12/06
  43.   R.Berkley.Read some of the racist filth in the OFFICIAL Arabmedia 10:53  |  PETER SM 21/12/06
  44.   Carter is just another nut 10:58  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 21/12/06
  45.   Definition of term is . . . . 11:03  |  revoltop 21/12/06
  46.   Jews don`t know what antisemitism is 11:05  |  Edith 21/12/06
  47.   If Jimmy Carter is considered to be an anti-Semite..... 11:11  |  Swiss (Dino) 21/12/06
  48.   What Else Would You Call Him???? 11:15  |  Terry 21/12/06
  49.   No such thing as anti-Semitism 11:21  |  Walter Wright 21/12/06
  50.   # 44 Margie in Tel Aviv 11:21  |  Swiss (Dino) 21/12/06
  51.   Antisemitism is... 11:23  |  Edith 21/12/06
  52.   A PRESCRIPTION OF ANTI-SEMITE 11:24  |  indrajaya 21/12/06
  53.   #47 Swiss (Dino) 11:33  |  Igor 21/12/06
  54.   CARTER IS A RESPECTABLE MAN 11:35  |  indrajaya 21/12/06
  55.   #46 Edith 11:40  |  sh 21/12/06
  56.   #47 The Jews do worry, Dino 11:41  |  sh 21/12/06
  57.   even senile peanut farmers are dangerous 11:47  |  snoopy 21/12/06
  58.   Carter is a Christian Replacement theologist 11:48  |  CrabbyMax 21/12/06
  59.   # 56 sh 11:59  |  Swiss (Dino) 21/12/06
  60.   anti-semitism ? does israel qualify ? 12:02  |  viper 21/12/06
  61.   VIPER. funny you should ask. 12:10  |  PETER SM 21/12/06
  62.   Rosner`s dangerous mind games 12:16  |  Hannah 21/12/06
  63.   Carter has a great distaste for Israel 12:28  |  Ilan 21/12/06
  64.   Hannah # 62 Show us the e-mails 12:37  |  Gil J. Yashar 21/12/06
  65.   Insidious prejudice. 12:45  |  Wounded Dove 21/12/06
  66.   "anti-Semitic" is meaningless and over used 12:46  |  spyguy 21/12/06
  67.   Jimmy CARTER is EVEN NOT an ANTISEMIT .. 12:51  |  DAVID KOHEN 21/12/06
  68.   is it so difficult ? 12:53  |  george 21/12/06
  69.   #Yosemite 12:57  |  Neil 21/12/06
  70.   Me too Natallie ! 12:59  |  David James Vickery 21/12/06
  71.   All those who disagree with Israel`s policies, are anti-Semites 13:01  |  Walt Schweitzer 21/12/06
  72.   Nah...He`s just a jerk. 13:05  |  Mr. Ami Goldman 21/12/06
  73.   Peace Road Map 13:08  |  Neil 21/12/06
  74.   Well done Rosner : you achieved to attract all paranoïacs ! LOL 13:37  |  Yanke-love-it 21/12/06
  75.   Carter 13:38  |  Jozef 21/12/06
  76.   to 62 hannah - show the e-mails or is just words? 13:38  |  mb 21/12/06
  77.   #13 Dave Burger 13:46  |  Boycott 21/12/06
  78.   # 74 Yankelovitz 13:55  |  Swiss (Dino) 21/12/06
  79.   HERE WE GO AGAIN WITH THE ANTI-SEMITISM LABEL! SICKENNING !!! 13:55  |  Jeremy 21/12/06
  80.   Letter 13:58  |  JJ 21/12/06
  81.   institutions 14:03  |  the little flower 21/12/06
  82.   Carter wants the election of his son, 14:03  |  mb 21/12/06
  83.   71: You don`t need Carter, Walt 14:14  |  David Teich 21/12/06
  84.   70: Vickery, you`re one by any time`s definition 14:15  |  David Teich 21/12/06
  85.   No objective discussion on Pro-Israel bias 14:20  |  A Historian 21/12/06
  86.   Anti Gentile 14:21  |  Archangel 21/12/06
  87.   Carter, unsatisfied with being merely the worse President in U.S. 14:24  |  mb 21/12/06
  88.   Paulist vs Christian and Jews 14:24  |  B 21/12/06
  89.   The Mere Question Is Beneath Contempt 14:27  |  Yaakov Sullivan 21/12/06
  90.   we are waitting you comentary:Rosner believes that each and every 14:28  |  mb 21/12/06
  91.   Jimmy want propaganda to his son, not debate with alan 14:34  |  mb 21/12/06
  92.   #35 - Clickfool - Carter is Kind, the wrong kind.. 14:34  |  * BEN JABO 21/12/06
  93.   6 Million Jews out of 300 Million Americans 14:35  |  Tuapc 21/12/06
  94.   Is Mr. Rosner a liar? 14:36  |  Jozef 21/12/06
  95.   Use #10 and Bush is anti-Islamist except if its about oil 14:45  |  Tupac 21/12/06
  96.   Dino 14:51  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 21/12/06
  97.   Let the Debate Begin 14:58  |  Devorah Judith Avram 21/12/06
  98.   13 Jewish Senators elected by anti-Semites 14:59  |  Hank N Tennessee 21/12/06
  99.   Great photo . . . 15:00  |  revoltop 21/12/06
  100.   #87 mb thinks that Carter was the worst US President 15:02  |  Johnboy 21/12/06
  101.   Carter is anti-palestinian 15:03  |  Nur Qu`reish 21/12/06
  102.   When does stating a FACT make you anti-Semite? 15:05  |  2pac 21/12/06
  103.   to 97 - Anti-semits hates debates that shows facts! 15:07  |  mb 21/12/06
  104.   Wasn`t That what Jews in US labeled the movie "Passion of Christ" 15:10  |  2pac 21/12/06
  105.   Rosner didn`t say Carter was an anti-Semite 15:12  |  yoram koch 21/12/06
  106.   Thought This Was Funny Comming From an American 15:13  |  2Pac 21/12/06
  107.   #100 SORRY JOHNBOY CARTER IS OUT ON HIS ON 15:22  |  paul harris 21/12/06
  108.   #102 ILL EXPLAIN IT TO YOU THE W POST IS ANTI SEMITIC 15:24  |  paul harris 21/12/06
  109.   Carter will NOT debate nor answer CNN 15:24  |  albert amato 21/12/06
  110.   A Call To Arms! 15:24  |  Victor Smolinsky 21/12/06
  111.   indrajaya 15:26  |  tommy suharto 21/12/06
  112.   indrajaya i do not think it is the jews 15:29  |  tommy suharto 21/12/06
  113.   Margie in the UK #44 15:34  |  Gabe1 21/12/06
  114.   100: JB, Shrub`s only worse based on 4 more years 15:37  |  David Teich 21/12/06
  115.   the antisemite card 15:38  |  david elazar 21/12/06
  116.   Ask a stupid question... 15:38  |  Guess who 21/12/06
  117.   15 Steve 15:39  |  p 21/12/06
  118.   Irelevant. World Powers Run By Big Business, Not Presidents! 15:43  |  Peter 21/12/06
  119.   Is Carter anti semitic 15:44  |  John Hubers 21/12/06
  120.   Carter was a good PLAGARIST 15:44  |  * BEN JABO 21/12/06
  121.   I have to be fair 15:45  |  albert amato 21/12/06
  122.   Josef in Slovakia (Post No. 75) 15:47  |  Johnny Weintraub 21/12/06
  123.   Margie #44 15:50  |  Guess who 21/12/06
  124.   He walks like a duck.... 15:51  |  Wendy 21/12/06
  125.   It`s anthropologically impossible 15:53  |  SayItAintSo 21/12/06
  126.   Of course, he is not an anti-semite 15:55  |  Danny - Israeli one 21/12/06
  127.   we in israel do not understand jew hatred 15:56  |  yaya 21/12/06
  128.   to 100 - Worst presid - Carter has golden medal for 30 yrs 15:56  |  mb 21/12/06
  129.   Telling tales 15:58  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 21/12/06
  130.   Jimmy Carter 16:10  |  The North Wind 21/12/06
  131.   To Johnny Weintraub (Post No. 122) 16:14  |  Ignorance is a bliss 21/12/06
  132.   CARTER`S BOOK 16:15  |  bob pivarnick 21/12/06
  133.   guess who come out with your real name 16:16  |  anita brookner 21/12/06
  134.   how disheartening 16:21  |  Rachele 21/12/06
  135.   YAYA. MOST JEW HATERS HATE CAUSE THEY HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO DO! 16:23  |  Peter 21/12/06
  136.   Anti-semitisim 16:24  |  pat 21/12/06
  137.   Carter is mayonaise made manifest 16:25  |  aesaac 21/12/06
  138.   to john why gwb is the worst president ever? 16:34  |  mb 21/12/06
  139.   FOLLOW THE MONEY 16:40  |  FOX 21/12/06
  140.   The U.S. is a great country 16:40  |  Rani--Egypt 21/12/06
  141.   The U.S. is a great country 16:40  |  Rani--Egypt 21/12/06
  142.   Anybody Criticizing Israeli Occupation is anti-Semite! 16:41  |  David 21/12/06
  143.   Israel needs to look in the mirror 16:42  |  Brian 21/12/06
  144.   to 131 - diploma didnt short any dumb´s ear! 16:43  |  mb 21/12/06
  145.   Of course he is 16:44  |  Gee 21/12/06
  146.   North Wind, #130 16:45  |  Rowan Berkeley 21/12/06
  147.   Carter`s "Hatred" Funded by Arab Money 16:47  |  Bruriah Sarah 21/12/06
  148.   Carter has high values? dont make me laugh 16:48  |  aj 21/12/06
  149.   Is Rosner a paranoid? 16:49  |  Tosefta 21/12/06
  150.   True ant-Semites 16:49  |  Brian Freund 21/12/06
  151.   Why is anti-Semitism being legitimised by Israel? 16:51  |  Stephen Murray 21/12/06
  152.   Is Carter Anti-Semitic? 16:53  |  David Neunuebel 21/12/06
  153.   Is Carter anti-Semitic? 16:53  |  Bimmer 21/12/06
  154.   What is Anti-Semitism? 16:56  |  Bruriah Sarah 21/12/06
  155.   p # 117 Apartheid 16:58  |  Jeff Northridge 21/12/06
  156.   It really makes no difference... 16:58  |  bat yam 21/12/06
  157.   not caring is just as bad 17:00  |  michael 21/12/06
  158.   Habitat for Saudi money 17:00  |  aesaac 21/12/06
  159.   These anti-semites remind me of the old joke about a man who... 17:04  |  bat yam 21/12/06
  160.   Its Hilarious to see Stephen Murray proclaim Carter not an 17:09  |  KJJ 21/12/06
  161.   History in a Nutshell 17:11  |  Bruriah Sarah 21/12/06
  162.   That`s a step above what we call you, Gabe 17:17  |  Jacob Blues 21/12/06
  163.   Enough! 17:17  |  Jack 21/12/06
  164.   David Neunuebel 17:23  |  FOX 21/12/06
  165.   The question itself is a diversionary tactic 17:23  |  Tim 21/12/06
  166.   is carter anti semitic 17:25  |  David Beneli 21/12/06
  167.   to 131 - Why a Navy veteran and Nuclear PHd did Fiasco 17:27  |  mb 21/12/06
  168.   Does it matter? 17:29  |  Sidney 21/12/06
  169.   Carter surely is anti-Israel 17:30  |  Jake 21/12/06
  170.   is carter anti semite 17:31  |  David Beneli 21/12/06
  171.   Israeli brutality 17:32  |  Kevin 21/12/06
  172.   Jacob Blues #162 17:33  |  Gabe1 21/12/06
  173.   Yes, 17:36  |  Richie 21/12/06
  174.   #155 Jeff Northbridge 17:37  |  Boycott 21/12/06
  175.   I don`t know if he is anti-S, but an idiot for sure 17:37  |  AA 21/12/06
  176.   Jacob Blues #162 17:41  |  Hanem5 21/12/06
  177.   #151 THAT WOULD BE TRUE STEPHEN IF HE WROTE A BOOK 17:41  |  paul harris 21/12/06
  178.   Engough already 17:41  |  Chauvenism is bad 21/12/06
  179.   stirring up sh-- 17:44  |  Michael N 21/12/06
  180.   Carter is indeed biased. 17:44  |  Jacob Blues 21/12/06
  181.   Telling Tales #129-SHORT VERSION 17:45  |  Gbae1 21/12/06
  182.   Is Carter an Anti-Semite? 17:46  |  Adrian Salbuchi 21/12/06
  183.   Jake and his ilk with their endless lists #169 17:47  |  Yaakov Sullivan 21/12/06
  184.   Go look for your long Island duck, Gabe 17:47  |  Jacob Blues 21/12/06
  185.   JEWS ARE ANTI-SEMITE 17:52  |  Gaga 21/12/06
  186.   American aid to Israel must be stopped 17:53  |  David 21/12/06
  187.   Of course Carter is anti semitic. He is for human rights! 17:54  |  Toronto`s Finest 21/12/06
  188.   181Gbae1. Excellent point! 18:02  |  common sense 21/12/06
  189.   Carter is anti...... 18:06  |  Trudy 21/12/06
  190.   You do a very nice impression of Claude Raines, Gabe 18:07  |  Jacob Blues 21/12/06
  191.   Jacob Blues 18:11  |  Gbae1 21/12/06
  192.   Playing on the world stage 18:13  |  Sherlock 21/12/06
  193.   # 180 Jacob Blues 18:14  |  Swiss (Dino) 21/12/06
  194.   I`m a refugee! My Building is on FIRE 18:23  |  will 21/12/06
  195.   Boycott # 174 That`s Partially Correct 18:27  |  Jeff Northridge 21/12/06
  196.   What an assinine question 18:28  |  Mark Lincoln 21/12/06
  197.   Gabe1. You are a light unto the ? 18:33  |  Toronto`s Finest 21/12/06
  198.   # 174 Boycott 18:36  |  ChanahS 21/12/06
  199.   Threats from Gabe... the province of hate mongers and bullies 18:37  |  Jacob Blues 21/12/06
  200.   You are not innocent Dino, but I`ll still answer 18:43  |  Jacob Blues 21/12/06
  201.   Oh Gabe`s a light alright... 18:45  |  Jacob Blues 21/12/06
  202.   ZIONISTS ATTACK AND SMEAR CAMPAIGN GETTING OLD 18:47  |  Joe 21/12/06
  203.   Toronto Finest #197 18:47  |  Gbae1 21/12/06
  204.   He is not a realist 18:47  |  jon purizhansky 21/12/06
  205.   Carter is not an antisemite, he just hates the phenomenal success 18:47  |  Judith in Haifa 21/12/06
  206.   Jacob Blues #199 18:49  |  Gbae1 21/12/06
  207.   Jacob Blues # 190 Claude Raines? 18:51  |  Jeff Northridge 21/12/06
  208.   if all els fails yell ANTI-SEMITE 18:53  |  MIKE KATZ 21/12/06
  209.   As for lies Gabe 18:54  |  Jacob Blues 21/12/06
  210.   Carter is a Humanitarian! 18:54  |  J. Cohen 21/12/06
  211.   Carter?s de-legitimization of one country 18:57  |  KUTW 21/12/06
  212.   Thank you-Common Sense #188. 18:59  |  Gabe1 21/12/06
  213.   Is Shmuel Rosner biased? 19:03  |  Andreas 21/12/06
  214.   Carter is a brave man. 19:05  |  Ali 21/12/06
  215.   Anti-Semitic? What a Farce! Jews are Anti-Gentile 19:09  |  John from Canada 21/12/06
  216.   # 180 Jacob Blues 19:12  |  Swiss (Dino) 21/12/06
  217.   to #17 Dror 19:12  |  Raymond 21/12/06
  218.   # 196 Mark Lincoln 19:21  |  Swiss (Dino) 21/12/06
  219.   2. _erber: Is Carter an anti-Semite? 19:23  |  KUTW 21/12/06
  220.   Your winnings Mr. Northridge 19:27  |  Jacob Blues 21/12/06
  221.   Question for Ben Jabo # 92 19:27  |  Clickfool 21/12/06
  222.   What is worst than an anti-semite? 19:28  |  Jason Le-Bon 21/12/06
  223.   It`s never untimely Dino to have a reasonable discussion 19:29  |  Jacob Blues 21/12/06
  224.   Carter is an Israel Hater 19:29  |  Jane 21/12/06
  225.   Of course Carter is not 19:31  |  christa 21/12/06
  226.   3. emad matahin: You bite the hand that fed you. 19:33  |  KUTW 21/12/06
  227.   It`s a New York thing Gabe, you wouldn`t understand 19:37  |  Jacob Blues 21/12/06
  228.   To Jacob Blues 19:37  |  christa 21/12/06
  229.   JEREMIAH COHEN 19:38  |  REUBEN REUBEN 21/12/06
  230.   JEREMIAH COHEN 19:38  |  REUBEN REUBEN 21/12/06
  231.   Why is it so hard? Lets clarify 19:39  |  Daniel 21/12/06
  232.   JEREMIAH COHEN 19:40  |  REUBEN REUBEN 21/12/06
  233.   Jimmy Carter!- Who Cares? 19:40  |  Calhun 21/12/06
  234.   Perhaps he is just a useful idiot 19:40  |  Gaby 21/12/06
  235.   Covering your tracks 19:41  |  FOX 21/12/06
  236.   202 - Anti-semitic Conspiracy theories 19:41  |  Bruriah Sarah 21/12/06
  237.   # 196 Mark Lincoln 19:43  |  christa 21/12/06
  238.   In case it was not clear.. 19:46  |  Daniel 21/12/06
  239.   But #89 so contemptuously 19:48  |  Ari ben Yisrael 21/12/06
  240.   214 - Jews Contributions to the World 19:50  |  Bruriah Sarah 21/12/06
  241.   Jimmy Carter and the TRUTH. 19:50  |  Gordon 21/12/06
  242.   Dear Boycott, what should I do. 19:51  |  FOX signed perplexed 21/12/06
  243.   Dror 19:52  |  Connie 21/12/06
  244.   Carter Eyes wide open! 19:54  |  Sam 21/12/06
  245.   If the shoe fits... 19:57  |  FinanceDoc 21/12/06
  246.   Bruriah Sarah #240 20:05  |  Guess who 21/12/06
  247.   6 Ant: ?rogue state? 20:09  |  KUTW 21/12/06
  248.   Is Jimmy Carter Anti Samite 20:09  |  Mary 21/12/06
  249.   Why is this racism allowed on Haaretz? 20:09  |  David Hickson 21/12/06
  250.   7. C.Greencoat: Pres.Carter 20:12  |  KUTW 21/12/06
  251.   # 243 Connie 20:16  |  Mary 21/12/06
  252.   President Jimmy Carter 20:19  |  Guy From NYC 21/12/06
  253.   anita brookner #133 20:21  |  Guess who 21/12/06
  254.   anti-semitism 20:21  |  jimmie c. boswell 21/12/06
  255.   To #240 - Delusional Sarah 20:23  |  John from Canada 21/12/06
  256.   #229- it`s not conspiracy a THEORY when it happens to be TRUE 20:24  |  Joe 21/12/06
  257.   Is Ha`aretz Anti- Semite 20:25  |  Harris 21/12/06
  258.   Another useless definition (Jeff N #155, 195; Boycott #164) 20:28  |  Tosefta 21/12/06
  259.   Does a bear ---- in the woods? n/t 20:29  |  Monk 21/12/06
  260.   Carter`s Refusal to Debate Book At Brandeis Univ..... 20:35  |  Peter 21/12/06
  261.   Sure he is. 20:41  |  hollingsworth 21/12/06
  262.   Peter of NYC-it means nothing of the kind #260 20:47  |  Yaakov Sullivan 21/12/06
  263.   Anti semitic, sort of. Anti Israel, yes. 20:50  |  Dave from Chicago 21/12/06
  264.   Carter refuses to debate Dershowitz (Peter from NYC #260) 20:57  |  Tosefta 21/12/06
  265.   to KUTW # 226 Is that what Carter did? 20:58  |  emad matahin 21/12/06
  266.   Didn`t forget Christa 20:59  |  Jacob Blues 21/12/06
  267.   Didn`t forget Christa 20:59  |  Jacob Blues 21/12/06
  268.   gangs of thugs = beautiful peaceful black folks? 21:03  |  nehemia dB 21/12/06
  269.   You mean Yaacov, the same Brandeis University 21:03  |  Jacob Blues 21/12/06
  270.   Natalie Durson 21:08  |  Connie 21/12/06
  271.   Anti-Semitic probably not, unbiased, definetly not. 21:11  |  dman 21/12/06
  272.   to Joe from Ramallah 21:12  |  Joe from New Mexico 21/12/06
  273.   Wolf Blitzer/CNN/AIPAC/BIAS 21:13  |  jeremiah Cohen 21/12/06
  274.   sarah--jewish conscience 21:17  |  jeremiah cohen 21/12/06
  275.   to Joe from Ramallah, ctnd. 21:17  |  Joe from New Mexico 21/12/06
  276.   248. Mary: Anti-Semites 21:17  |  KUTW 21/12/06
  277.   antisemitism in israel 21:21  |  sophia 21/12/06
  278.   Carter is the best friend Israel ever had... 21:26  |  peacelover 21/12/06
  279.   #262 Wrong. Offer Came From Alan Dershowitz, Law Professor 21:27  |  Peter 21/12/06
  280.   tv-game show 21:28  |  blue 21/12/06
  281.   Mary 21:34  |  Connie 21/12/06
  282.   Is Carter an anti-Semite? 21:36  |  Ralph 21/12/06
  283.   Yosemite Californian... 21:38  |  Miriam 21/12/06
  284.   Disgusting discourse 21:41  |  Neu Tral 21/12/06
  285.   26. Natallie Durson: ? exact definition please? 21:52  |  KUTW 21/12/06
  286.   Jimmy Carter 21:53  |  Mike Ricketson 21/12/06
  287.   i dunno but... 22:06  |  sho 21/12/06
  288.   Dershowitz came forward for the David Project #279 22:07  |  Yaakov Sullivan 21/12/06
  289.   42 Rowan Berkeley: Anti-Semitism` 22:09  |  KUTW 21/12/06
  290.   President Carter is right and wrong. 22:10  |  Michael Korn 21/12/06
  291.   Carter is good man. 22:11  |  Ah 21/12/06
  292.   Is anyone an IDIOT for asking the question? Duh 22:13  |  Gary Moody 21/12/06
  293.   to 278 - prove it 22:16  |  mb 21/12/06
  294.   #17 YOU ARE SO RIGHT ON THAT POINT 22:16  |  BALLISTIC 21/12/06
  295.   AJ/Monroe NJ...is carter an anti semite? 22:20  |  Miriam 21/12/06
  296.   #21 YOUR OPINION IS STALE AND IN THE MINORITY 22:23  |  ballistic 21/12/06
  297.   Jimmy carter choosen response by yahoo. 22:24  |  mb 21/12/06
  298.   Carter anti-semite? 22:24  |  Jerusalem Shmuel 21/12/06
  299.   # 275, Joe from New Mexico 22:26  |  Joe 21/12/06
  300.   Jimmy carter - allied backstaber - case iran - yahoo 22:27  |  mb 21/12/06
  301.   MB--- heinous crime against Americans? 22:28  |  Miriam 21/12/06
  302.   Carter Not PhD 22:39  |  JewLover 21/12/06
  303.   #198 ChanahS 22:39  |  Boycott 21/12/06
  304.   Palestine Peace Not Apartheid -- Buy it. Read it. 22:40  |  Timothy 21/12/06
  305.   For those who say Carter states facts 22:42  |  SDHD 21/12/06
  306.   A Jew-hater and an Israel-hater 22:46  |  Jonathan S 21/12/06
  307.   Jacobs blues /Gabe 1 22:48  |  Miriam 21/12/06
  308.   #242 FOX 22:48  |  Boycott 21/12/06
  309.   common sense #188 22:49  |  CHGODMK 21/12/06
  310.   It Was Mrs. O`Leary`s Cow in Chicago... 22:50  |  CHGODMK 21/12/06
  311.   Is Carter an anti-Semite? 22:51  |  Colin Wright 21/12/06
  312.   Not quite Jacob Blues 22:52  |  Yaakov Sullivan 21/12/06
  313.   open your eyes 22:53  |  mollio uk 21/12/06
  314.   Jacob Blues, I refer you to posting #269 fro Tosefta 22:57  |  Yaakov Sullivan 21/12/06
  315.   I vote NO 22:58  |  JOJO 21/12/06
  316.   Miriam #293 22:59  |  SDHD 21/12/06
  317.   It is not anti semitic to point out that .... 23:03  |  Jack 21/12/06
  318.   Jimmy Carter, Plains, Ga. 23:04  |  JA 21/12/06
  319.   #35 Click - Carter is an outed PLAGARIST 23:04  |  * BEN JABO 21/12/06
  320.   Sullivan 23:05  |  LL 21/12/06
  321.   Carter 23:06  |  David W. Deitch 21/12/06
  322.   389 T#89 urncoat Sullivan - CARTER IS A PLAGARIST 23:06  |  * BEN JABO 21/12/06
  323.   To Joe in Ramalah from Joe in Baltimore 23:07  |  Joe 21/12/06
  324.   Gabe /Telling tall tales again..129 23:13  |  Miriam 21/12/06
  325.   Israel does bear burdon of peace 23:13  |  Jack 21/12/06
  326.   Tosefta # 258 Where Did You Learn Math? 23:15  |  Jeff Northridge 21/12/06
  327.   Sullivan re Dershowitz 23:18  |  TM 21/12/06
  328.   Sullivan and Dershowitz 23:19  |  LL 21/12/06
  329.   Refugee Will...in Montreal 23:19  |  Miriam 21/12/06
  330.   "The fine line between anti-semitism and criticism of Israel: 23:21  |  Miriam 21/12/06
  331.   is carter an anti- semite 23:21  |  paul 21/12/06
  332.   Carter 23:25  |  Come on 21/12/06
  333.   Kevin, `refusenik` refers to Jewish immigrants from USSR 23:25  |  Jake 21/12/06
  334.   #313 - Mollio - CARTER 23:30  |  * BEN JABO 21/12/06
  335.   SDHD when the cure hurts . . . . 23:34  |  revoltop 21/12/06
  336.   Judith in Haifa..Carter hates Israeli "success" 23:34  |  Miriam 21/12/06
  337.   Carter 23:46  |  pt 21/12/06
  338.   Carter is an idiot! 23:52  |  WildWest 21/12/06
  339.   #242..fox perplexed... 23:52  |  Miriam 21/12/06
  340.   Miriam #307 23:53  |  Gabe1 21/12/06
  341.   UNTIL CARTER AGEES TO DEBATE, BOOK MEANINGLESS! 23:54  |  Peter 21/12/06
  342.   CHFCUK #309/310 23:59  |  Gabe1 21/12/06
  343.   Anitsemitism hits close to home 23:59  |  Mitamuna 21/12/06
  344.   CAT`S MEEOW=anti-samite... 00:00  |  MIKE KATZ 22/12/06
  345.   299, Joe from Ramallah 00:02  |  Joe from New Mexico 22/12/06
  346.   Anti-semite? Or anti-Israeli excesses? 00:03  |  Tony Price 22/12/06
  347.   I do not believe Jimmy Carter is an anti-Semite,... 00:03  |  Mimi 22/12/06
  348.   carter is telling the truth, get over it 00:04  |  JOHN HORTON, USMC 22/12/06
  349.   260/Peter on Carters refusal to debate at Brandeis 00:07  |  miriam 22/12/06
  350.   LITTLE KNOWN IS CARTER CORRUPTION 00:10  |  paul harris 22/12/06
  351.   Miriam 320 00:12  |  Joe 22/12/06
  352.   Tosefta # 258 Occupation 00:12  |  Jeff Northridge 22/12/06
  353.   #314 MIRIAM AND THE BLIND SIDE THERE IS NO DISTINCTION 00:16  |  paul harris 22/12/06
  354.   #325 Revoltop 00:25  |  SDHD 22/12/06
  355.   303 chanah...boycott 00:25  |  miriam 22/12/06
  356.   Is Carter anti-semitic? 00:26  |  Victor 22/12/06
  357.   Revoltop, out of touch 00:27  |  SDHD 22/12/06
  358.   332 Miriam: pal terrorism is ignored by Carter 00:36  |  KUTW 22/12/06
  359.   carter is brave 00:36  |  cristina 22/12/06
  360.   to 301 - It was not Carte Guilty that the attack was accidental, 00:38  |  mb 22/12/06
  361.   Is Carter an anti-Semite? 00:39  |  paul 22/12/06
  362.   wrong CHGODMK. It was not from Gaeb1 but from someone else with 00:40  |  common sense 22/12/06
  363.   One more president like Jimmy Carter 00:41  |  HonestIsraeli 22/12/06
  364.   carter an antisemite 00:43  |  Shmuelshachor 22/12/06
  365.   323 miriam. i thought you were from new mexico. now it`s new york 00:44  |  suspicious 22/12/06
  366.   Hi Miriam #332 00:46  |  FOX 22/12/06
  367.   of course he is an antisemite 00:49  |  Miriam 22/12/06
  368.   Given your skill at arguments Gabe, I think its safe to say 00:53  |  Jacob Blues 22/12/06
  369.   to # 98...13 Senators 00:56  |  Shmuelshachor 22/12/06
  370.   Carter anti what??? 00:58  |  Alberto 22/12/06
  371.   Is Carter an anti-Semite? Wrong Question! 01:00  |  HonestIsraeli 22/12/06
  372.   Carter 01:01  |  Dwido 22/12/06
  373.   dershowitz----zionist attack dog! 01:02  |  j cohen 22/12/06
  374.   ENOUGH 01:05  |  ZB Sab 22/12/06
  375.   re # 334 peter i AGEE i AGEE 01:08  |  MIKE KATZ 22/12/06
  376.   How ridiculous 01:13  |  jon 22/12/06
  377.   Gabe1 #333 01:18  |  Guess who 22/12/06
  378.   INAPPROPRIATE ANAYLSIS WHEN CARTER HAS DONE MORE FOR ISRAEL THAN 01:23  |  Smadar 22/12/06
  379.   Is Carter Anti-Semitic? 01:32  |  Ed 22/12/06
  380.   Mollio, that is wrong; Sadat was far more important 01:39  |  Jake 22/12/06
  381.   I have no doubt he is 01:43  |  Harry 22/12/06
  382.   Carter was not even at Camp David 2000 01:43  |  Jake 22/12/06
  383.   Timothy, no can do. Buy `My Life`, by Bill Clinton 01:48  |  Jake 22/12/06
  384.   Israel and US presidents 02:03  |  Shit happens 22/12/06
  385.   Jonathan 02:14  |  Lieberman 22/12/06
  386.   Tosefta 02:23  |  Danite 22/12/06
  387.   "Yaakov" 02:27  |  danite 22/12/06
  388.   JewLover (Post 302) 02:27  |  Johnny Weintraub 22/12/06
  389.   @ 143 I like those mirrors you may turn ... 02:28  |  Karl 22/12/06
  390.   Its more complex than that 02:33  |  Danite 22/12/06
  391.   "JCOHEN" If it so simple Carter will win hands down.A win win. 02:36  |  PETER SM 22/12/06
  392.   Rosner missed the point 02:47  |  Yossi 22/12/06
  393.   Guess Who: Jacob Blues IS Us! 02:54  |  Ronnie Wolman 22/12/06
  394.   Carter anti-semitic? 02:55  |  O.Wurman 22/12/06
  395.   Carter is anti Israel not anti semitic 02:59  |  Zody 22/12/06
  396.   Looking towards others 03:05  |  Guy From NYC 22/12/06
  397.   Is Carter an anti-Semite? 03:23  |  TonyL 22/12/06
  398.   Chfcuk #309/310 03:27  |  Gabe1 22/12/06
  399.   Is Carter an anti-Semite? 03:44  |  stella 22/12/06
  400.   #338 Dershowiz is far better than Carter the PLAGARIST 03:54  |  * BEN JABO 22/12/06
  401.   Anti-Semitic == Anti-Jewish==Carter 03:55  |  rick geiger 22/12/06
  402.   pro semite 04:04  |  jim 22/12/06
  403.   Worse Than Apartheid 04:19  |  Chris Hedges 22/12/06
  404.   ROTW Man #353 04:25  |  Gabe 22/12/06
  405.   Re; Zody: Israels demise 04:27  |  Guy From NYC 22/12/06
  406.   Guess Who 04:31  |  Gabe1 22/12/06
  407.   Natalie Durson and Walt Schweitzer 04:42  |  Janet 22/12/06
  408.   Given your track record with arguments so far Gabe, 04:43  |  Jacob Blues 22/12/06
  409.   Is Carter anti-semitic ? 04:50  |  Roger Wilco 22/12/06
  410.   #340 mike katz jews were expelled from jerusalem in 21948 04:54  |  Zody 22/12/06
  411.   Carter is no anti-semite 04:55  |  RichardL 22/12/06
  412.   Rosner...you make Carter`s point for him 05:08  |  RW 22/12/06
  413.   Count me In Natalie and David James Vickery 05:37  |  Abe 22/12/06
  414.   Is Carter an anti-Semite? 05:46  |  Eric in Chicago 22/12/06
  415.   I don`t believe Jimmy Carter is anti-Semitic,... 05:59  |  Mimi 22/12/06
  416.   The Truth On Carter 06:04  |  Kipperraes 22/12/06
  417.   Carter 06:22  |  Emes 22/12/06
  418.   This is absurd. 06:48  |  Joshua 22/12/06
  419.   Jimmy Carter 06:56  |  David 22/12/06
  420.   I am not jewish, but... 07:15  |  Spoon 22/12/06
  421.   Jimmy Carter was the worst president??? 07:25  |  Eric from Chicago 22/12/06
  422.   TO HJOE FROM RAMALLA 07:30  |  JOJO 22/12/06
  423.   Rick Geiger 07:33  |  Eric from Chicago 22/12/06
  424.   Reply to Jake #347. 07:58  |  Timothy 22/12/06
  425.   loll 08:09  |  Omar 22/12/06
  426.   Judith from Haifa, buying into your own myths? 09:15  |  S. Charles 22/12/06
  427.   SDHD cuts and paste 10:44  |  revoltop 22/12/06
  428.   Natallie -the anti semite 10:50  |  Scott 22/12/06
  429.   So does ours towards him and the rest of the world Danite 11:00  |  sh 22/12/06
  430.   Carter is just a European style Leftist... 11:03  |  JeremyR 22/12/06
  431.   Dershowitz is a lawyer Danite 11:05  |  sh 22/12/06
  432.   Is Jimmy Carter an anti-semite? 11:20  |  Tinkie 22/12/06
  433.   Ben Jabo 11:20  |  mollio uk 22/12/06
  434.   jake 11:24  |  mollio uk 22/12/06
  435.   "What happened to our lovely Israel with social justice?" 13:18  |  Rowan Berkeley 22/12/06
  436.   #431 sh Makes the case . . . 13:36  |  revoltop 22/12/06
  437.   Sounds familiar? 13:42  |  PatrickM 22/12/06
  438.   Gabe. It is no surprise to me....... 13:59  |  Toronto`s Finest 22/12/06
  439.   #428 Scott.According to you we are all anti semites! 14:09  |  Toronto`s Finest 22/12/06
  440.   Buy from NYC - Where did U get mandate definition from 14:15  |  * BEN JABO 22/12/06
  441.   #433 - Mollio - Carter was the "SUBJECT" 14:18  |  * BEN JABO 22/12/06
  442.   #405 Same Rubbish Mr guy from NYC 14:46  |  Zody 22/12/06
  443.   Jimmy Carter is just a typical left wing Christian 15:32  |  Scott Fields 22/12/06
  444.   who is Anti-Semite 15:47  |  Esther 22/12/06
  445.   Joe 16:52  |  To Esther 444 22/12/06
  446.   Toronto`s finest and the Higher power 16:52  |  Scott 22/12/06
  447.   What is a semite exactly? 16:54  |  John Kelly 22/12/06
  448.   Is Carter an anti-Semite 17:09  |  Nechama 22/12/06
  449.   Mel Gibson is anti-semite & so is Carter 17:48  |  sheri 22/12/06
  450.   #127 Yaya - you hit on a critical point 17:55  |  sheri 22/12/06
  451.   # 446 Scott. You prove my point, everybody is an anti-semite! 18:28  |  Toronto`s Finest 22/12/06
  452.   Anti-Semites and Jew-haters 18:33  |  esseff 22/12/06
  453.   "You can`t criticize Israel" - That`s the line used to defend... 18:50  |  sheri 22/12/06
  454.   To Toronto`s Finest 19:25  |  Joe 22/12/06
  455.   Carter/Sadat 20:18  |  Sammy 22/12/06
  456.   esseff. Yes, Jew hater is exactly the term to use! 20:26  |  Toronto`s Finest 22/12/06
  457.   God bless you Carter 21:09  |  Paul 22/12/06
  458.   #451 TOronto`s finest 22:15  |  Scott 22/12/06
  459.   Is Carter an Anti-Semite? 22:27  |  Sylvia 22/12/06
  460.   The Promissed land 03:15  |  Zoltan 23/12/06
  461.   #447 03:42  |  Moshe 23/12/06
  462.   all critics of Israel 03:58  |  margaret 23/12/06
  463.   #458 Scott. Duh,You are somewhat unhinged! 04:57  |  Toronto`s Finest 23/12/06
  464.   Carter 12:02  |  paul 23/12/06
  465.   463: Yes, Toronto`s Finest, Jews can be antisemites 15:15  |  David Teich 23/12/06
  466.   Is carter an antisemite? 16:57  |  David Nigel Braham 23/12/06
  467.   to j cohen(?) on #373 17:23  |  Shmuelshachor 23/12/06
  468.   Carter sure quacks like a duck 21:28  |  Barney 23/12/06
  469.   irrelevant 22:49  |  Louis Williams 23/12/06
  470.   Carter IS NOT an anti-semite. Caret is a decent human being. 02:01  |  Tammy 24/12/06
  471.   Carter 02:50  |  paul 24/12/06
  472.   Archbishop fo Canterbury is a Anti-semite too I guess 04:03  |  Guy From NYC 24/12/06
  473.   sammy #455 04:06  |  robin 24/12/06
  474.   Is he or isn`t he? 07:02  |  NS 24/12/06
  475.   Guy from NYC - you`ve got a lot of gall 07:04  |  * BEN JABO 24/12/06
  476.   #170 Tammy - That "decent" human being 07:08  |  * BEN JABO 24/12/06
  477.   #170 Tammy - That "decent" human being 07:08  |  * BEN JABO 24/12/06
  478.   Not anti-Semite, he`s anti-Jew 10:46  |  Israeli 24/12/06
  479.   Dispaportionate Criticism 12:00  |  Pidyon Ami 24/12/06
  480.   Carter is making money 15:24  |  rich 24/12/06
  481.   Apartheid connotation says it all 16:50  |  raoulschur@hotmail.c 24/12/06
  482.   antisemite? 20:04  |  gabriel 24/12/06
  483.   good question 20:13  |  Ted Cohen 24/12/06
  484.   Carter 20:23  |  University of North 24/12/06
  485.   yes 23:01  |  ralph 24/12/06
  486.   CARTER ANTI SEMITE & TO BLAME FOR RADICAL IRAN 23:08  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 24/12/06
  487.   44 margie in Tel Aviv 01:08  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 25/12/06
  488.   Carter`s Money comes from Arabs 01:53  |  zody 25/12/06
  489.   Jimmy Carter 02:10  |  Herb Glaser 25/12/06
  490.   Did Carter read it? 03:49  |  Boris 25/12/06
  491.   Carter might as well be an Arab..... 04:12  |  Dave from Chicago 25/12/06
  492.   Carter? Yuk! 04:39  |  Mark, a Christian 25/12/06
  493.   CARTER DEFNETLY IS............. 05:04  |  Max 25/12/06
  494.   pres. carter,unhinges the jews 05:06  |  athan friedman 25/12/06
  495.   Ridiculous! 05:35  |  Yastami Bey 25/12/06
  496.   #31 Chap in Capetown is talking garbage 06:19  |  Henryk 25/12/06
  497.   #493 - Carter unhinges 06:24  |  * BEN JABO 25/12/06
  498.   478: Israeli fool, how much dog is in your hotdog? 09:44  |  David Teich 25/12/06