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Notes on Carter's 'apartheid' analogy

October 19, 2006
1. First, the facts: Former President Jimmy Carter's new book Palestine Peace, Not Apartheid published by Simon & Schuster is due to be released on November 14. The book's back cover includes the following sentence: "A system of apartheid, with two peoples occupying the same land but completely separated from each other, with Israelis totally dominant and suppressing violence by depriving Palestinians of their basic human rights."

2. Are you surprised by Carter's argument? - I wouldn't think so. He has been critical of Israel for many years now. Last week he told Newsweek "the Camp David accords made some very substantial demands on Israel. That is, Israel agreed to withdraw its political and military forces from the West Bank and Gaza. And it agreed for the Palestinians to have full autonomy, and so forth. Begin also agreed at Camp David to forgo the building of further settlements. Those agreements have obviously not been honored." But when one writes a book he needs to take the argument to a new level, as to make some noise. Carter got it by using two things: the right word and the right time.

3. Apartheid is the worst word one can use against Israel and stay within the boundaries of legitimacy. Using analogies to Nazi Germany - as some anti-Israel activists have done in the past - is unacceptable. Using words like Occupation is not strong enough to earn any attention. Carter pushed the envelope just a little bit futher, but got the effect he wished to have: Anger, controversy, political turmoil, hurt feelings.

4. Arguing about Apartheid is pointless. There is enough material evidence to prove that apartheid exists in the occupied territories in one form or another. If you argue about the use of this word, you lose. If you argue that Israel is blameless you also lose. The only argument you can make against Carter is about context and the bigger picture. But those who support the apartheid accusation aren't interested in nuance - they chose the word not because of its meaning but rather because of its history. It is a way to de-legitimize Israel's behavior in the West Bank and Gaza, and to turn it into South Africa of the 21st century. This is a false argument.

5. But timing played an even more important role in enhancing the visibility of this book. It will be published right after the election, but its content was leaked two weeks before the election. The Republican Jewish Coalition, that in recent weeks has run a series of ads charging that Democrats are weaker on Israel, will have a field day with this new book. It has already used one of Carter's statement in an add - the one claiming that Israel has no "legal or moral justification for their massive bombing of the entire nation of Lebanon."

6. Will this convince Jewish voters to turn to the Republican party in the coming election? That's doubtful. However, these claims do have some corrosive effect on the alliance between Jewish voters and their party. In the RJC's ad, Carter is quoted as saying that he represents "the vast majority of the Democrats." This is untrue - according to most polls Democrats supported Israel, and were not critical over the war in Lebanon. Nevertheless, the trend in the Democratic Party is troubling to some. According to recent Quinnipiac University poll "Israel's support in the United States is stronger among Republicans (70.9) and independents (68.1) than among Democrats (60), and among men (71.9) than women ( 60.5)." Carter is just another reminder that within the Democratic Party there's a wing that's very critical of Israel - and some see signs that it is growing.

7. Carter is not in a position to exert influence over policy - well, not directly anyway. This view - somewhat pushed aside in previous years of the Bush administration - is becoming, yet again, the common view among some policy makers and many scholars. People don't have to buy the moral claims made by Carter, but can still agree with the strategic advice for Israel: Solve your conflict with the Palestinians and ease somewhat the grief in the Middle East.

8. But one should also say this: If Israel had to choose one former President with which to have publicly debated differences of opinion, I guess Carter is a reasonable choice. "Thinking about the United States Presidents we have had since World War II", asked another QUINNIPIAC UNIVERSITY poll, "which one would you consider the best president?" - Carter ranked low even among Democrats who preferred Clinton (48%), Kennedy (26%), Truman (7%) and even Reagan (7%). If he is claiming that the majority of his party supports his view on Israel, he remains with the burden of proof.

  1.   End the Settlements or be Binational 21:53  |  Harris 19/10/06
  2.   Rosner, Jimmy Carter`s evidence 00:08  |  Dutch 20/10/06
  3.   Good for Carter 01:36  |  Larry Saltzman 20/10/06
  4.   Carter`s blindness 02:26  |  Bounce 20/10/06
  5.   Carter`s blindness 02:26  |  Bounce 20/10/06
  6.   Carter`s blindness 02:26  |  Bounce 20/10/06
  7.   Apartheid Analogy: Nuts 02:42  |  Tim 20/10/06
  8.   Probably My Worst Mistake 03:19  |  Johnny Weintraub 20/10/06
  9.   Israel, Be Palestine 03:55  |  The Other Alan 20/10/06
  10.   Israel/Carter 03:56  |  Kathleen Galt 20/10/06
  11.   What Was Jimmy Carter`s Greatest Achievement? 04:23  |  Yosemite Sam 20/10/06
  12.   Jimmy Carter World`s Greatest Underachiever! 06:08  |  Yosemite Sam 20/10/06
  13.   A bitter man.... 07:21  |  NS 20/10/06
  14.   The very first human right is the right to live; and all other 07:41  |  Shlomzion 20/10/06
  15.   Menachem Begin Loved Jimmy Carter 07:44  |  Ben Israel 20/10/06
  16.   Bantustan, possibly; apartheid, not 08:06  |  DJStahl 20/10/06
  17.   Switzerland??? DJSthal 09:47  |  PSP 20/10/06
  18.   PSP, 17. Much of what you see in Judea and Samaria is based on 10:05  |  Shlomzion 20/10/06
  19.   Jimmy Carter 10:42  |  paul 20/10/06
  20.   carter looks favourably at political events 10:47  |  zadok the priest 20/10/06
  21.   Vote Changer 10:55  |  ATLAS 20/10/06
  22.   Jimmy Carter 11:20  |  Sarah 20/10/06
  23.   so predictable 11:28  |  David 20/10/06
  24.   Carter the Martyr Shmarter 11:28  |  Hellolleh 20/10/06
  25.   #14 Shlomzion - Kol ha-Kavod! 11:43  |  Yonatan 20/10/06
  26.   What`s wrong with "apartheid" ? 12:02  |  ziggurat 20/10/06
  27.   yosemite sam 12:15  |  freddy 20/10/06
  28.   #apartheid 12:20  |  Peter Dale 20/10/06
  29.   most polls Democrats supported Israel, 12:27  |  Peter Dale 20/10/06
  30.   Israel is an Apartheid regime 12:31  |  Stephen Murray 20/10/06
  31.   Reply to Ben Israel (Post No. 15) 12:35  |  Johnny Weintraub 20/10/06
  32.   djstahl 12:38  |  freddy 20/10/06
  33.   carter - 12:39  |  saul a. readner 20/10/06
  34.   Georgia Jimbo Peanut 12:42  |  Dror 20/10/06
  35.   To Shlomzion : Right to live 12:50  |  Wael Hendawi 20/10/06
  36.   to #14 Right to Live 12:53  |  wael 20/10/06
  37.   Why not ? 12:56  |  Yankelowitz 20/10/06
  38.   A friends loves you, he doesn`t condonne everything 13:37  |  Jean-Luc Ngarambe 20/10/06
  39.   arabs not israel, practice apartheid 13:47  |  uzi 20/10/06
  40.   To Kathleen, 10, 13:59  |  Jozef 20/10/06
  41.   Israeli type apartheid 14:05  |  david 20/10/06
  42.   Here is the bigger picture 14:19  |  Natallie Durson 20/10/06
  43.   Apartheid 14:30  |  rich 20/10/06
  44.   Stephen Murray 14:31  |  rich 20/10/06
  45.   Jean-Luc, #31,friends don`t condone all; what about Palestinians? 14:44  |  Geoff 20/10/06
  46.   moral obtuseness 14:56  |  David Hoffman 20/10/06
  47.   Blind Jim 15:05  |  Bob 20/10/06
  48.   Wael Hendawi. Yes, definitely, we all have the right to live, 15:07  |  Shlomzion 20/10/06
  49.   Doublethink 15:39  |  Tom 20/10/06
  50.   South Africa`s whites... 15:39  |  Clickfool 20/10/06
  51.   His Foundation gets money from the Arabs 15:40  |  Semsem 20/10/06
  52.   Jimmy Carter vs Neville Chamberlain 15:45  |  Loren 20/10/06
  53.   History 101 for Larry 15:52  |  Jacob Blues 20/10/06
  54.   You hit the issue on the head, Ziggurat 15:56  |  Jacob Blues 20/10/06
  55.   Stephen Murray provides the real example to Ziggurat`s theory 16:03  |  Jacob Blues 20/10/06
  56.   Twas the Night Before Christmas... 16:04  |  Ronnie Wolman 20/10/06
  57.   David in Michigan 16:10  |  rich 20/10/06
  58.   No Problem, The Other Alan 16:16  |  Jake 20/10/06
  59.   What Jews need to understand and fast 16:18  |  Danite 20/10/06
  60.   ANSWER TO NUMBER 24. 16:22  |  David Nigel Braham 20/10/06
  61.   Painful reality 16:22  |  Nathaniel 20/10/06
  62.   Operation Eagle Claw 16:22  |  Jake 20/10/06
  63.   Jozef#34 16:24  |  Sarah 20/10/06
  64.   Apartheit ? 16:41  |  Robert Weiss 20/10/06
  65.   Larry Saltzman: what is Apartheid? 16:43  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 20/10/06
  66.   J. Carter 16:49  |  Catherine 20/10/06
  67.   Touché! 16:57  |  Alicia 20/10/06
  68.   Carter`s Apartheid analogy 17:04  |  Iman Heijstek 20/10/06
  69.   Israel and Apartheid 17:14  |  Jacqueline 20/10/06
  70.   If... 17:22  |  Blinky the Fish 20/10/06
  71.   jacobs got the blues 17:22  |  freddy 20/10/06
  72.   You give peanut you get Carter ! lol 17:23  |  Yankelkowitz 20/10/06
  73.   Carter should be growing peanuts 17:31  |  Gene 20/10/06
  74.   Balfour, Apartheid, Israelites: Israelis,Arabs 17:42  |  Jonathan[Black]smith 20/10/06
  75.   Apartheid? 17:43  |  Bruriah Sarah 20/10/06
  76.   Mr.Carter - dont be surprised 17:43  |  peacenik 20/10/06
  77.   Carter Is 1000% Right 17:54  |  Jimmy Olsen 20/10/06
  78.   Jacqueline. How many times have you visited Israel to form such a 18:08  |  Shlomzion 20/10/06
  79.   The illogic of Jaqueline 18:16  |  Jacob Blues 20/10/06
  80.   Jiminy Carter 18:22  |  myron 20/10/06
  81.   Who cares what the failed senile hasbeen thinks? 18:22  |  Dudu 20/10/06
  82.   Carter should be growing peanuts 18:27  |  Gene 20/10/06
  83.   Playing defense by confusion 18:35  |  Tosefta 20/10/06
  84.   39: Response 18:36  |  Bruriah Sarah 20/10/06
  85.   Every arab state is an apartheid state 18:48  |  Itamar 20/10/06
  86.   more in ideology than in extent 18:53  |  Pssd Off American 20/10/06
  87.   Larry Saltzman: what is Apartheid? 18:56  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 20/10/06
  88.   CARTER IS STILL A NAIVE FARM BOY 18:58  |  JAY 20/10/06
  89.   dear harris 19:07  |  JAY 20/10/06
  90.   Jimmy Olsen supports Carter 19:07  |  Jacob Blues 20/10/06
  91.   to jimmy olsen 19:19  |  jay 20/10/06
  92.   CARTERS RIGHT 19:20  |  ravi 20/10/06
  93.   Incoherencies 19:25  |  Peter Dale 20/10/06
  94.   Rosner 2 19:31  |  Peter Dale 20/10/06
  95.   Carter is very right, and I laugh about racists "hurt feelings" 19:49  |  John 20/10/06
  96.   Really Ravi? 20:13  |  Jacob Blues 20/10/06
  97.   Author fudged 20:33  |  John Grosvenor 20/10/06
  98.   John - where did you learn that? iran? 20:34  |  jay 20/10/06
  99.   Israel 20:49  |  zelma lavin 20/10/06
  100.   I thought Arabs had a vote. So no apartheid. 20:59  |  thinker 20/10/06
  101.   Advice from the Pope on Sex? 21:05  |  Nali 20/10/06
  102.   #3 Larry Saltzman, Israel needs to butt out! 21:14  |  Dutch 20/10/06
  103.   dear jay 21:18  |  Harris 20/10/06
  104.   Carter`s Take on "Apartheid" 21:18  |  Devorah Judith Avram 20/10/06
  105.   POS Jimmy Carter 21:30  |  Mark Erickson 20/10/06
  106.   Carter`s `apartheid` analogy 21:36  |  Lowell Blackman 20/10/06
  107.   very freightening indeed 21:51  |  pat 20/10/06
  108.   Carter & Israel 22:09  |  Altalena 20/10/06
  109.   moral obtuseness 22:10  |  David Hoffman 20/10/06
  110.   The lie of the others 22:14  |  Johnny 20/10/06
  111.   DISAPPOINTED WITH CARTER`S LABELLING - MISCONSTRUES TRUTH 22:23  |  Smadar 20/10/06
  112.   Collective punishments 22:32  |  Altalena 20/10/06
  113.   IN RESPONSE TO SAME ACCUSATION, I WROTE IN LOCAL EDITORIAL.... 22:38  |  Smadar 20/10/06
  114.   to Larry Saltzman, any terrorism in SB lately? 22:45  |  Pablo 20/10/06
  115.   Margie 22:45  |  Pssd Off American 20/10/06
  116.   #14 22:51  |  Joe 20/10/06
  117.   #16 Bantustan, possibly apartheid 22:59  |  Boycott 20/10/06
  118.   Re:Rosner 2 23:08  |  George 20/10/06
  119.   Anti-Semite Carter 23:18  |  Chicagoan 20/10/06
  120.   Democrats fail to denounce Carter propoganda, alienate voters 23:22  |  Dave Loev 20/10/06
  121.   Not your father`s Democratic Party 00:17  |  Yisroel Pritikin 21/10/06
  122.   Still, Carter might be the best president for Israel ever 00:20  |  eman 21/10/06
  123.   Not Enough 00:31  |  Ali 21/10/06
  124.   # 38 Catherine.re: J.Carter. JIMMY WHO?? 01:01  |  Kathy 21/10/06
  125.   APARTHEID, IS IT RACE OR CLASS? 01:22  |  maureen Ann 21/10/06
  126.   Carter is entangled in his own web of lies 01:31  |  Salomon Benzimra 21/10/06
  127.   What israel and the Jews need to understand fast! 01:41  |  danite 21/10/06
  128.   sholmzion 01:59  |  John 21/10/06
  129.   #77 Eman, Israel 03:32  |  Lebanese 21/10/06
  130.   The West Bank and Gaza Settlements . . . 03:39  |  David 21/10/06
  131.   Were is the lie in his words. 04:41  |  Billy Jack 21/10/06
  132.   peanut farmer, peanut brain, worst president in U.S.history, 06:01  |  ralph 21/10/06
  133.   Wael Hendawi. Yes, definitely, we all have the right to live, 06:29  |  Shlomzion 21/10/06
  134.   Yosemite Sam.... 06:41  |  watcher X 21/10/06
  135.   Sadly Carter is right 07:08  |  TvdB 21/10/06
  136.   Billy Jack, the Canadian. Did I read it correcttly, that 07:41  |  Shlomzion 21/10/06
  137.   Maureen Ann 08:18  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 21/10/06
  138.   John the depth of your ignorance is appalling 08:24  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 21/10/06
  139.   CARTER IS THE BEST EVER 09:20  |  indrajaya 21/10/06
  140.   Apartheid Road 09:30  |  Lebanese admirer 21/10/06
  141.   Right to live - WHERE? No 93 09:36  |  Lebanese admirer 21/10/06
  142.   Margie in Tel-Aviv. Thank you for your post addressed to Maureen 10:06  |  Shlomzion 21/10/06
  143.   Lebanese admirer. The tunnel road about which you write is a road 10:22  |  Shlomzion 21/10/06
  144.   Lebanese admirer. In your post relating to "right to live where" 10:37  |  Shlomzion 21/10/06
  145.   Margie wake up and smell the Apartheid 11:44  |  John 21/10/06
  146.   danite so israel jettisons the west bank 12:08  |  flavius josephus 21/10/06
  147.   dror #28 12:12  |  Dan 21/10/06
  148.   the thinker (72) is completely right! 12:27  |  saul a. readner 21/10/06
  149.   Lebanese Admirer 12:29  |  rich 21/10/06
  150.   Lebanese Admirer & "grateful" 12:31  |  rich 21/10/06
  151.   John 12:35  |  rich 21/10/06
  152.   #61 Dear Harris 12:36  |  Dan 21/10/06
  153.   #78 George 12:38  |  Peter Dale 21/10/06
  154.   TvdB 12:41  |  rich 21/10/06
  155.   #71 Israel 12:47  |  Dan 21/10/06
  156.   #92 14:19  |  Devorah 21/10/06
  157.   Watcher X 14:29  |  Yosemite Sam 21/10/06
  158.   Carter Is Blinded By The Light From His Own Teeth! 14:34  |  Yosemite Sam 21/10/06
  159.   #3 Saltzman, I SALUTE YOU & JIMMY CARTER ! 14:38  |  Dutch 21/10/06
  160.   Jimmy Who? 14:43  |  Steve G 21/10/06
  161.   Would you leave if Palestinians asked you to? 15:18  |  Tim 21/10/06
  162.   Good for Carter? 15:19  |  Israel Zamir 21/10/06
  163.   Lebanese admirer 15:23  |  Silvia 21/10/06
  164.   #82 15:29  |  Gene 21/10/06
  165.   85 confused 15:56  |  ka 21/10/06
  166.   HEY ! RONNIE, "not even amouse !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" 15:58  |  Akiva Patysh,(hadag) 21/10/06
  167.   Jimmy Carter... the humanist 16:13  |  Daniel 21/10/06
  168.   Can anybody NOT see it Israel`s way and not be be slandered.? 16:28  |  American 21/10/06
  169.   Carter Is Lashing Out Because He is Unpopular 17:16  |  Gene S. 21/10/06
  170.   Would YOU LEAVE? 17:19  |  Bill 21/10/06
  171.   Get Carter 17:25  |  Mot 21/10/06
  172.   Smadar. Thank you for your post, No.83, and thank you for 18:33  |  Shlomzion 21/10/06
  173.   Sylvia - Get real. Its 2006 18:35  |  Lebanese admirer 21/10/06
  174.   Israel offered to leave the territories? 113 18:40  |  Lebanese admirer 21/10/06
  175.   Semetic tribes - Rich 18:52  |  Lebanese admirer 21/10/06
  176.   Semetic tribes - Rich 18:52  |  Lebanese admirer 21/10/06
  177.   ISRAEL, THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL 19:20  |  Nabi 21/10/06
  178.   67 John, I say let`s have Exodus 2 19:35  |  Dutch 21/10/06
  179.   Notes on Carter`s `Apartheid" Analogy 19:35  |  FHT 21/10/06
  180.   Lebanese admirer from Beit Jala. You are right, I have not heard 19:45  |  Shlomzion 21/10/06
  181.   Re:#78 George(actually 88?) 19:48  |  George 21/10/06
  182.   Yes 19:58  |  JJI 21/10/06
  183.   To Chicagoan No. 89 20:55  |  Just me 21/10/06
  184.   jimmy carter 20:55  |  juan 21/10/06
  185.   There is no apartheid in the territories 21:15  |  Altalena 21/10/06
  186.   carter was the scatter brain 21:19  |  manijeh 21/10/06
  187.   Carter is absolutely right 21:20  |  Adam Keller 21/10/06
  188.   Stephen Murray, regarding South African Apartheid 21:23  |  Mimi 21/10/06
  189.   Apartheid 21:42  |  William Stevens 21/10/06
  190.   Apartheid 21:51  |  Rom 21/10/06
  191.   Apartheid and Israel 22:02  |  Alan 21/10/06
  192.   The Future 22:07  |  Alan 21/10/06
  193.   #178 Altalena and Apartheid 22:16  |  Boycott 21/10/06
  194.   To Dutch (173) Exodus 2 22:29  |  Altalena 21/10/06
  195.   Peace with Justice - 174 22:32  |  Lebanese admirer 21/10/06
  196.   Apartheid in the West Bank 184 22:40  |  Lebanese admirer 21/10/06
  197.   to 169/the idiot does not stop 23:01  |  manijeh 21/10/06
  198.   Haaretz, please post this respnse to Indajaya - 2nd attempt 23:01  |  Mimi 21/10/06
  199.   To Boycott. Explanations 23:06  |  Altalena 21/10/06
  200.   To Lebanese admirer. Apartheid 23:15  |  Altalena 21/10/06
  201.   #191 Alan from Akron 23:35  |  Boycott 21/10/06
  202.   #192 Alan and Samson 23:40  |  Baal 21/10/06
  203.   #131Margie,thank you for supporting my... 23:47  |  Maureen Ann 21/10/06
  204.   To Altalena 00:35  |  christa 22/10/06
  205.   harris your still advocating a country that is jew free 02:13  |  jay 22/10/06
  206.   eman, may hashem have mercy on your soul 03:02  |  jay 22/10/06
  207.   Shlomzion #14 is a liar - part 2 03:31  |  zeev 22/10/06
  208.   Altalena, I wish you would question more 03:47  |  Dutch 22/10/06
  209.   read further on about the real/true peanut farmer 03:47  |  ralph 22/10/06
  210.   Jimmy Carter 04:03  |  howiej 22/10/06
  211.   Shlomzion #14 is a liar - part 1 04:09  |  zeev 22/10/06
  212.   Ralph (Post No. 209) 04:12  |  Johnny Weintraub 22/10/06
  213.   peace, How do we achieve? 04:17  |  Alex 22/10/06
  214.   to jay #205 04:32  |  zeev 22/10/06
  215.   Carter & Jews 04:33  |  Jordan 22/10/06
  216.   on manijeh #197 - the idiots never stop 05:19  |  zeev 22/10/06
  217.   Israel 06:30  |  Jaroslav Secansky 22/10/06
  218.   Carter`s eyes 07:08  |  Cipora Julianna Kon 22/10/06
  219.   Carter brought us the Ayatolllah 07:16  |  amir 22/10/06
  220.   Mr. Un-enlightened.... 07:23  |  Blogowitz 22/10/06
  221.   Nu, Zeev, after Israel offered to leave the overwhelming majority 07:25  |  Shlomzion 22/10/06
  222.   # 198, MIMI (ROGERS?) 07:32  |  indrajaya 22/10/06
  223.   Re:Carter#219 07:45  |  George 22/10/06
  224.   #211, zeev: your Golda Meir quote was incomplete 08:02  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 22/10/06
  225.   Carter`s apartheid analogy 08:04  |  Shmuelshachor 22/10/06
  226.   Carter`s apartheid analogy 08:04  |  Shmuelshachor 22/10/06
  227.   Israeli civilians between her and her enemies. 08:16  |  Nico de Lange 22/10/06
  228.   Missing the point - on purpose? No 200 08:17  |  Lebanese admirer 22/10/06
  229.   Racism = unequal rights. No205 08:23  |  Lebanese admirer 22/10/06
  230.   To 204 & 208. Christa and Dutch. SA & Apartheid 08:36  |  Altalena 22/10/06
  231.   Israel feed´s global terrorism 08:44  |  Joe 22/10/06
  232.   Israeli policy in Palestine is indeed Apartheid! 09:09  |  Nico de Lange 22/10/06
  233.   Having the vote means nothing without fair government policy! 09:17  |  Nico de Lange 22/10/06
  234.   Yes, we were (or at least, we thought we were) 09:24  |  Nico de Lange 22/10/06
  235.   To 231. Joe. Terrorism 09:30  |  Altalena 22/10/06
  236.   # Cipora224 09:39  |  Peter Dale 22/10/06
  237.   To Rich 09:49  |  John 22/10/06
  238.   Dear Dan in London 09:50  |  John 22/10/06
  239.   the tide is tilting though gradually but surely 10:09  |  arab 22/10/06
  240.   corrections 11:41  |  Peter Dale 22/10/06
  241.   to Shlomzion #221 - recommanded reading I 12:27  |  zeev 22/10/06
  242.   look at home first 13:01  |  Ian Silver 22/10/06
  243.   on Dan #152 - pure nonsense 13:18  |  zeev 22/10/06
  244.   on Altalena #235 14:42  |  zeev 22/10/06
  245.   Zeev. If you have not understood me before, let me put it in the 15:53  |  Shlomzion 22/10/06
  246.   Zeev. First, I would not use the word "stupid" when addressing 16:04  |  Shlomzion 22/10/06
  247.   To 236 & 244 . Zeev & Peter Dale Sadat & others 17:26  |  Altalena 22/10/06
  248.   zeev - i know your not defending arab propaganda 18:18  |  jay 22/10/06
  249.   #247 18:20  |  Peter Dale 22/10/06
  250.   Apropos football 18:32  |  Peter Dale 22/10/06
  251.   #199 Altalena 18:55  |  Boycott 22/10/06
  252.   to Altalena #247 19:00  |  zeev 22/10/06
  253.   Jimmy Carter, the worst President 19:14  |  Ari 22/10/06
  254.   #235 Altalena 19:17  |  Boycott 22/10/06
  255.   #236, Peter Dale 20:09  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 22/10/06
  256.   to Shlomzion #221 - part 2 (3rd try) 20:35  |  zeev 22/10/06
  257.   #255 Cipora 20:45  |  Peter Dale 22/10/06
  258.   to Shlomzion #221 - part 3 (4th try) 20:47  |  zeev 22/10/06
  259.   To Zeev, Boycott , Peter Dale. Apartheid 20:57  |  Altalena 22/10/06
  260.   Carter - Friend of Terrorists 20:58  |  Mark Jessup 22/10/06
  261.   #257 21:10  |  Peter Dale 22/10/06
  262.   to Altalena #257 21:47  |  zeev 22/10/06
  263.   lie about "apartheid" 22:05  |  Eliyahu ben Abraham 22/10/06
  264.   to Shlomzion #221 - part 3 (5th try) 22:06  |  zeev 22/10/06
  265.   Zeev. My simple response to you to all your parts and attempted 22:34  |  Shlomzion 22/10/06
  266.   From the looser who brought you the Iranian revolution 22:38  |  charles 22/10/06
  267.   to jay #248 - 2nd try 22:56  |  zeev 22/10/06
  268.   Apartheid 00:03  |  Leslie Udwin 23/10/06
  269.   #263 Eliyahu ben Abraham 00:21  |  Boycott 23/10/06
  270.   To 261. Peter Dale. Laws 00:41  |  Altalena 23/10/06
  271.   To Zeev 262. Peace with Egypt 00:51  |  Altalena 23/10/06
  272.   Larry Saltzman practices apartheid against Mexicans 01:59  |  Elvis Scudbubble 23/10/06
  273.   #257, Peter Dale 02:17  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 23/10/06
  274.   to Altalena #271 - part 1 03:22  |  zeev 23/10/06
  275.   to Altalena #271 - part 2 03:28  |  zeev 23/10/06
  276.   to Shlomzion #265 04:18  |  zeev 23/10/06
  277.   Apartheid 06:27  |  Peter 23/10/06
  278.   To Zeev. 275. Peace 08:56  |  Altalena 23/10/06
  279.   "Jimma" Carter - One Term Failure 12:33  |  Eddie 23/10/06
  280.   #273 Cipora 12:47  |  Peter Dale 23/10/06
  281.   #270 Altalena On a point of style 13:01  |  Peter Dale 23/10/06
  282.   #273 Cipora 2 13:04  |  Peter Dale 23/10/06
  283.   "boycott" is ignorant of history 13:46  |  Eliyahu ben Abraham 23/10/06
  284.   To Peter dale 281. International law 13:59  |  Altalena 23/10/06
  285.   To 282. Peter & Cipora. Intentions 14:09  |  Altalena 23/10/06
  286.   To 280 Peter Dale. Logic 14:22  |  Altalena 23/10/06
  287.   Insidious Corruption 15:23  |  Pam 23/10/06
  288.   Don`t Buy His Books! 15:43  |  Yosemite Sam 23/10/06
  289.   Recalcitrance 08:54  |  Peter Dale 24/10/06
  290.   Carter`apartheid analoy 23:40  |  Judah N. Wenkel 25/10/06
  291.   Jimmy Carter 01:14  |  Reuven Asher 26/10/06
  292.   to Altalena #278 - 4th try 01:16  |  zeev 26/10/06
  293.   #Zeev 292 19:42  |  Peter Dale 28/10/06
  294.   Carters Blindness????? 19:21  |  Rolf 14/11/06
  295.   Carter and Israel 18:05  |  Pierre 26/11/06
  296.   Jimmy Carter Debate 22:19  |  Harvey 28/11/06
  297.   Fairness, not prejudice 15:55  |  reluctantwarrior 29/11/06
  298.   Hooray! The Truth is Revealed! 22:24  |  bobby 04/12/06
  299.   Mr. Carter, thank you 22:30  |  Bobby 04/12/06
  300.   Mr. Carter, Thank You! 23:00  |  Bobby 04/12/06
  301.   This is a very sad forum 08:16  |  Amit 05/12/06
  302.   israel in wrong part of world 18:14  |  carl 09/12/06
  303.   israel apartheid 20:40  |  bronwyn 09/12/06
  304.   Carter book 00:22  |  J Smith 10/12/06
  305.   carter 21:40  |  scott 11/12/06
  306.   Carter`s bias 20:50  |  Herbert Silverman 12/12/06
  307.   Jimma 01:26  |  Reuven Asher 19/01/07
  308.   Carter on apartheid in Israel 09:00  |  Ben Pheiffer 23/02/07


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