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From who is a Jew to who is a rabbi

Rabbi Eric Yoffie is in Israel now and since he doesn't carry a cell phone I couldn't get hold of him. I told his assistant he should be ostracized for such a habit. I intend, however, to keep calling him "rabbi" as I couldn't find a good way to turn the cellular inconvenience into a relevant excuse for omitting his title.

Yoffie is the President of the Union for Reform Judaism. You might not think it's the greatest branch of Judaism. You might not think he is an important scholar. You might not think he can be your spiritual leader. You might not think he can decide halachic (Jewish law) questions. Nevertheless, he is the President of this organization, representing some 1.5 million North American Jews who view him as a rabbi. And you better learn to live with it since it is not going to change.

Moshe Katzav is also a president, representing an even bigger organization, the State of Israel. You might not think he is the right man at the right place. You might not think he can be your political leader. You might not think his office is the most relevant or necessary of them all. Nevertheless, he is the president of this state, representing some seven million Israelis who view him as the president. And those who didn't like the choice had to learn to live with it, as it was not going to change.

There's a bond between these two organizations. The Reform movement wants the best for Israel, supports it, and prays for its well being. You can take an issue with them for not doing enough to strengthen ties with the Jewish state, but you can't say they aren't trying. You can't say Yoffie is not trying. Israel is as important to him as anything. And he deserves some credit for it and some respect too. He could have chosen differently.

One can argue that the Reform movement needs Israel as every Jew does. It is a proven fact that Jewish identity is much stronger when a connection to Israel is established. But Israel also needs the support of the Reform movement. It is one of the most reliable sources of political support for Israel in America, and we all know how vital this could be.

Now, the president of Israel has a problem with the Reform movement. He is more of a traditional kind of Jew, and there's nothing wrong with it. What is more problematic is his decision not to address Rabbi Yoffie (or any other Reform rabbi) as "rabbi." My friend and colleague Shahar Ilan reported Thursday that Yoffie decided not to attend a reception at the President's Residence because of this.

Katzav's office didn't deny the report, and for good reason. In a television interview Katsav granted to Channel 1 on Rosh Hashanah Eve, he explained that he was brought up to address as "rabbi" only those ordained in accordance with the lifestyle he maintains and that the president is not obligated to recognize Reform rabbis until the State of Israel does so. What a lame excuse. What - as the ADL's Abe Foxman politely called it - an "ill advised" decision.

Foxman handed President Katzav a rope with which to climb down the tree, but the truth of the matter is that Katzav is personally responsible for this decision. Some of his advisers even suggested a change in position. The president, however, wouldn't budge. He was commended for it by the ultra-orthodox Israeli Knesset member, Rabbi Meir Porush, who is the wrong man to listen to on this issue as his strain of Orthodox Judaism doesn't understand the complexities of Diaspora life.

Rabbi Tzvi Hirsch Weinreb, the leader of the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America, is the person Katzav should have consulted. No less Orthodox than Katzav, or Porush, Weinreb is a voice of reason. I called him Thursday on his cell (Yoffie - here's an example for you) thinking he might prefer not to be heard on such issue and was pleasantly disappointed. Katsav should address Yoffie as "Rabbi," he said without hesitation. "There are many matters that are in dispute between the [Orthodox] movement I represent and the Reform movement," Weinreb said, "but titles must not be an obstacle to cooperation between us."

Nor should it be an obstacle to cooperation and relations between the Reform movement and the State of Israel. These two have more than enough issues separating them. Some of them are serious issues - as is the question of who is a Jew? - for which you have very little common ground. Many of them relate to the way in which Israel has historically conducted its state-religion matters, for which step by step remedies are being found.

But straining relations even further over a title? Alienating 1.5 million Reform Jews over the inconvenience of Katzav? And what will Israel say when it needs the support of these Jews: "Hey, Mr. Yoffie, can you please give us a hand?"

The president of the Reform movement has responsibilities. "Reform Jews have to work on their relationship with Israel," I wrote in "The mystery of the fifth Jew" - an op-ed for Haaretz a while ago. And I think they should still work on these relations, even in a time of tension, even in the face of insult and alienation.

But responsibility in this case rests on the shoulders of the other, more important president. He should be the one making it clear, that as much as this might be difficult for him he is going to overcome it. For the sake of the good relations, for the sake of unity and brotherhood.

If he doesn't answer this call of duty, he doesn't deserve the courtesy of being visited by Yoffie, nor by any other American Jewish leader.

  1.   Yoffie 21:24  |  Bill Pearlman 18/06/06
  2.   Rosner`s Blog katsav 21:26  |  steven kargman 18/06/06
  3.   Very good article 21:33  |  Tulip 18/06/06
  4.   Who is a Rabbi 21:56  |  David 18/06/06
  5.   who`s a rabbi 23:53  |  Moshino 18/06/06
  6.   "he doesn`t deserve the courtesy" 00:08  |  Moshino 19/06/06
  7.   Rosner doesn`t seem to understand "principles" 00:58  |  Mosheh Wolfish 19/06/06
  8.   Pearlman #1 is right, but - 01:12  |  Mosheh Wolfish 19/06/06
  9.   Pearlman`s #1 2nd point 01:21  |  Mosheh Wolfish 19/06/06
  10.   Tulip #3 the demographics say you`re wrong! 02:01  |  Mosheh Wolfish 19/06/06
  11.   Moshino #5, I salute you! 02:12  |  Mosheh Wolfish 19/06/06
  12.   katsav needs to be consistent 02:24  |  Peter Smith 19/06/06
  13.   katsav needs to be consistent 02:38  |  Peter Smith 19/06/06
  14.   The Kashrut of the Title 03:56  |  19/06/06
  15.   Intermarriage and Reform 04:10  |  Jeff 19/06/06
  16.   Who Is A Rabbi 05:01  |  Eliyahu Rothkopf 19/06/06
  17.   Response to Peter Smith #12,13 06:14  |  Mosheh Wolfish 19/06/06
  18.   #14 (nameless) 06:33  |  Mosheh Wolfish 19/06/06
  19.   Counterfeit goods 09:06  |  Joseph Friedlander 19/06/06
  20.   An issue which should not have arisen 09:08  |  Shalom Freedman 19/06/06
  21.   Good Perspective 10:40  |  M. Duvduvani 19/06/06
  22.   Katsav Is Wrong Here 10:50  |  M Duvduvani 19/06/06
  23.   Orthodox Jewish communities are GROWING! 10:58  |  Chana 19/06/06
  24.   Built-in obsolescence 10:58  |  Physicist 19/06/06
  25.   Rabbi 11:20  |  j10 19/06/06
  26.   Who can be a Rabbi? 12:03  |  Ellen 19/06/06
  27.   Israel`s Inexorable and Deepening Estrangement from the Rabbis 12:35  |  Paqid Yirmeyahu 19/06/06
  28.   Neither has ever been in doubt for knowledgeable Jews 12:43  |  Yaakov K. 19/06/06
  29.   What is the question? 13:23  |  Raykie 19/06/06
  30.   a question 13:27  |  moshe 19/06/06
  31.   No money until ... 14:06  |  A Reform Jew 19/06/06
  32.   Reform Jews are almost non-existent in Israel. 14:20  |  Leonard from Seattle 19/06/06
  33.   Mr Wolfish and the 12th century #7 14:43  |  Yaakov Sullivan 19/06/06
  34.   Leonard from Seattle on Reform in Israel 14:48  |  Yaakov Sullivan 19/06/06
  35.   Katsav is an Embarrasment 14:56  |  Yaakov Sullivan 19/06/06
  36.   No money until 15:09  |  chuck Jerusalem 19/06/06
  37.   to Moshe 15:21  |  Yoram Koch 19/06/06
  38.   reform in israel not the question 15:24  |  Mori Dar 19/06/06
  39.   "major violation of human rights" 15:28  |  Tim Rose 19/06/06
  40.   Mori Dar on Israel-Diaspora relations #38 15:42  |  Yaakov Sullivan 19/06/06
  41.   mixed marriages is forbidden? 15:44  |  Yoram Koch 19/06/06
  42.   Chana in L.A. 16:00  |  CHGODMK 19/06/06
  43.   Title 16:02  |  Avi Yerushalmi 19/06/06
  44.   Rosner makes sense 16:05  |  Yonatan 19/06/06
  45.   `Only a Title` 16:06  |  Daniel 19/06/06
  46.   #1 Bill Pearlman 16:08  |  Yonatan 19/06/06
  47.   #4 David 16:10  |  Yonatan 19/06/06
  48.   #4 David 16:10  |  Yonatan 19/06/06
  49.   #32 Leonard knows about Seattle, not Israel 16:14  |  Yonatan 19/06/06
  50.   to number 31 - tempting offer 16:16  |  Moshe 19/06/06
  51.   Correction to #42 16:22  |  CHGODMK 19/06/06
  52.   Two Speed Judaism and the Stranger in our Midst 16:26  |  George 19/06/06
  53.   Consequence of religious monopoly 16:39  |  Ben Gurion 19/06/06
  54.   upset - to daniel 16:40  |  Noam 19/06/06
  55.   chgodmok 16:42  |  Daniel 19/06/06
  56.   Orthodox Judaism is ghetto Judaism 16:43  |  bruce 19/06/06
  57.   Hes MR Yoffie NOT RABBI Yoffie 17:05  |  pace306 19/06/06
  58.   Daniel 17:09  |  CHGODMK 19/06/06
  59.   A Jew Is A Jew Is A Jew! 17:26  |  Sam The Sham 19/06/06
  60.   chgodmok 17:30  |  Daniel 19/06/06
  61.   Re 54 Noam 17:31  |  Daniel 19/06/06
  62.   Orthodox demand respect, but give none in return 17:52  |  Jorge 19/06/06
  63.   orthodox respect 17:54  |  Tobi 19/06/06
  64.   To "A Reform Jew"- How About No Money To Reform Jews Until 17:59  |  Harold 19/06/06
  65.   he SHOULD have his title, but still lack ability to.... 18:10  |  SHIMON 19/06/06
  66.   Another subject not brought up here 18:21  |  Jabadini 19/06/06
  67.   reform jews in israel 18:53  |  aryeh 19/06/06
  68.   RE: Orthodox demand respect #62 18:53  |  Daniel 19/06/06
  69.   to jabadini 19:39  |  Rose Garden 19/06/06
  70.   So What`s in a Name.... 19:42  |  Pastor Phil 19/06/06
  71.   reform no true friend to israel 19:51  |  TDB 19/06/06
  72.   On being a rabbi (part 1) 20:11  |  Yonatan 19/06/06
  73.   On being a rabbi (part 2) 20:20  |  Yonatan 19/06/06
  74.   On being a rabbi (part 3) 20:25  |  Yonatan 19/06/06
  75.   On being a rabbi (part 4) 20:31  |  Yonatan 19/06/06
  76.   On being a rabbi (part 5) 20:35  |  Yonatan 19/06/06
  77.   TDB 20:38  |  Tobi 19/06/06
  78.   readers 20:40  |  Kobi Cohen 19/06/06
  79.   Rosner the best 20:41  |  L.L 19/06/06
  80.   you might think 20:42  |  Nagin 19/06/06
  81.   On being a rabbi (part 6) 20:44  |  Yonatan 19/06/06
  82.   On being a rabbi (part 7 - conclusion) 20:49  |  Yonatan 19/06/06
  83.   Kobi Cohen 21:08  |  Ellen 19/06/06
  84.   Yonatan-on being a rabbi 21:20  |  peter 19/06/06
  85.   Yonatan on being a rabbi 2 21:34  |  peter 19/06/06
  86.   Re Yonatan 21:53  |  Yehudi 19/06/06
  87.   beeing a rabbi 22:23  |  L.L 19/06/06
  88.   beeing a rabbi2 22:26  |  L.L 19/06/06
  89.   beeing a rabbi4 22:28  |  L.L 19/06/06
  90.   beeing a rabbi5 22:29  |  L.L 19/06/06
  91.   beeing a rabbi6 22:30  |  L.L 19/06/06
  92.   Those participation 22:58  |  LDG 19/06/06
  93.   a rabbi? 23:08  |  Iche behr 19/06/06
  94.   The Rabbis 23:23  |  Gershon Ron 19/06/06
  95.   Yoffie 23:45  |  Al Mellman 19/06/06
  96.   Yoffie 00:46  |  James 20/06/06
  97.   Yoffies Conduct is Morally Reprehensible 00:51  |  Menachem Ben Yakov 20/06/06
  98.   An Hionest paper has no fear 02:44  |  Avraham Cykiert 20/06/06
  99.   American Jews visiting Israel. 03:17  |  Chana 20/06/06
  100.   Rabbinical Ordination is not a Sacrament 03:20  |  Ted 20/06/06
  101.   CHECK YOUR FACTS 03:45  |  TOBIA 20/06/06
  102.   AMOS OZ SAID IT ALL 04:14  |  Debbie Scholem 20/06/06
  103.   Respect for others 05:00  |  Jorge 20/06/06
  104.   # 87 Wrong Questions, Who is an Israelite, Who is a Priest? 05:42  |  John Isenhower 20/06/06
  105.   # 88 Abraham, Isaac, Jacob 05:52  |  John Isenhower 20/06/06
  106.   # 89 Love, honor, obey. Marriage vows. 06:01  |  John Isenhower 20/06/06
  107.   # 90 Love is more than a state of mind 06:08  |  John Isenhower 20/06/06
  108.   # 91 She refuses to talk up to this point. 06:11  |  John Isenhower 20/06/06
  109.   # 83n Did Kobi really rape her? Did she really steal money. 06:17  |  John Isenhower 20/06/06
  110.   # 100 Sacrament of Marriage 06:22  |  John Isenhower 20/06/06
  111.   Don`t get it 07:02  |  A Shultz 20/06/06
  112.   who is a jew 07:52  |  Richard S 20/06/06
  113.   Secular Israelis 08:08  |  JJ Doyle 20/06/06
  114.   JJDoyle - He isn`t being asked to call secular Israelis "rabbi" 08:44  |  Chana 20/06/06
  115.   Richard San Francisco 08:45  |  Ellen 20/06/06
  116.   John Isenhower TX 08:47  |  Ellen 20/06/06
  117.   A Slap in the Face to American REform Jews 08:50  |  Pascal Levensohn 20/06/06
  118.   Yoffie 15:59  |  Gary Dalin 20/06/06
  119.   That`s OK: We don`t call him our President 17:48  |  Amir 20/06/06
  120.   Chana 18:26  |  JJ Doyle 20/06/06
  121.   Passing the Bar 20:06  |  Gary Dalin 20/06/06
  122.   who is a rabbi 21:25  |  Barry 20/06/06
  123.   Reform Movement has become Political Radical Leftist arm 21:30  |  Melanie 20/06/06
  124.   Yoffie is a Political Radical Leftist Activist using "Rabbi"cover 21:38  |  Melanie 20/06/06
  125.   Who DOES get their title used 22:40  |  DAshley 20/06/06
  126.   MElanie is thrilled 00:58  |  TOBIA 21/06/06
  127.   Rosner: Not everyone bows to the Left like you 02:10  |  Melanie 21/06/06
  128.   Jew?? Rabbi? 02:41  |  erna 21/06/06
  129.   weak support for israel 02:42  |  noah 21/06/06
  130.   Equating `not-Jewish with "not a rabbi` 04:06  |  Gary Dalin 21/06/06
  131.   Ha`aretz censorship 04:49  |  Avraham Cykiert 21/06/06
  132.   Haaretz is agraid of the truth 04:56  |  Avraham Cykiert 21/06/06
  133.   Vegas Elvis and the Israeli Reform Rabbi 07:53  |  Lev 21/06/06
  134.   rabbi eats ham on shabbot in car 17:58  |  chiam 21/06/06
  135.   To "Chiam" 21:24  |  Sam`l Gordon 21/06/06
  136.   Judaism: Laws or Social Work? 22:19  |  Gary Dalin 21/06/06
  137.   Re Noah #129 00:34  |  Josh 22/06/06
  138.   Josh #137 01:08  |  Gary Dalin 22/06/06
  139.   NOAH 01:11  |  TOBIA 22/06/06
  140.   Gary Dalin 01:19  |  Tobia 22/06/06
  141.   #137, Josh 01:20  |  Baruch 22/06/06
  142.   BARUCH 02:26  |  TOBIA 22/06/06
  143.   # 116 Ellen 04:18  |  John Isenhower 22/06/06
  144.   to 135 gary 05:51  |  chiam 22/06/06
  145.   Tobia #140: Jafee`s battle 06:20  |  Gary Dalin 22/06/06
  146.   Refrorm Loyalties 17:03  |  Reb Jon 22/06/06
  147.   Anyone who advocates Expelling Jews FORFEITS HIS RABBINATE 17:31  |  Melanie 22/06/06
  148.   Calling someone Rabbi 20:30  |  Jerusalem Shmuel 22/06/06
  149.   Insults 21:51  |  Mark 22/06/06
  150.   Insults 22:29  |  Gary Dalin 22/06/06
  151.   #56 Bruce, Orthodox=Aryan? 22:37  |  Phil 23/06/06
  152.   katzav joffe 23:16  |  ben gera 24/06/06
  153.   Katsav did the right thing......... 06:57  |  Miriam 25/06/06
  154.   Mazel Tov, President Katzav 19:06  |  Wendy 25/06/06
  155.   #153 and #154 19:40  |  Baruch 25/06/06
  156.   reply to letter #155 21:11  |  Wendy 25/06/06
  157.   Reply to Wendy 23:16  |  Baruch 25/06/06
  158.   "Rabbi" Yoffe 16:16  |  Ruth Broch 26/06/06
  159.   Calm Down, Yoffie 17:52  |  Sergey Kadinsky 26/06/06
  160.   2nd reply to Baruch 19:21  |  Wendy 26/06/06
  161.   #160 23:38  |  Baruch 26/06/06
  162.   Yoffie is a Rabbi 16:08  |  Coastie 27/06/06
  163.   VOTE ALE YAROK - REFORM RABBIS WILL BE RECOGNIZED 15:28  |  Ale Yarok - GLP 16/12/07


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